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The ETEN Dialpad is very nice, but the buttons are still too narrow and not spaced wide enough.
Plus, the History, etc. buttons on top are touching the top row of numbers and are too easy to hit by mistake (getting you out of the keypad in the middle of dialing:-(
Is there something which provides larger, more spaced out buttons?
I see posts asking for it, but can't find any alternatives.
Thanks!
O.K., is it because it is a technical issue and it would be difficult to map large, separated buttons covering most of the screen, or is it that everyone is happy with the size of the buttons.
I doubt it's the latter, since I've seen a number of posts about it, but nobody has offered a definitive answer.
Anyone?
I hope its not an hardware issue cause i'd love bigger buttons.
Sorry to be a pest, but just wondering if larger and better spaced out buttons are at all possible?
The reason I am asking, is that even in ETEN it seems that the buttons are simply wider and appear larger mostly due to the fact that they touch each other and utilize the gaps between the standard dialpad's keys. I personally like the ETEN idea a lot, but find that without spacing between the buttons, dialling is actually a bit more error prone than with the original dialler (and I keep hitting History by mistake, since it touches the "2", which can totally screw up dialling fast in a car:-(
I would play with creating some larger bitmaps, if it's within my very limited abilities, but have the feeling that spreading the buttons on a larger are on the screen involves much more than meets the eye. Am I correct in this assumption?
Anyone who has an answer to this?
(Or even better, a solution?
I always thought the keys were big enough.... how big of fingers have you got?
xdame said:
I always thought the keys were big enough.... how big of fingers have you got?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Thats why I love coming here, thanks for the laugh guys..... Whew..
had you manage to do something with biger keys
Draw a mockup of what you need. I'm working on something new that might help. PM me it if you wish to hide your artistic abilities.
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xdame said:
I always thought the keys were big enough.... how big of fingers have you got?
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"If you need a dialling wand, please mash the keypad now..."
Guys! Just install Blue_E-TEN_M600_Dialer_Skin.cab (link below) and u'll have a BIG orange ETEN buttons in dialer// Nice, ha?
http://505.bootydick.ru/Blue_E_TEN_M600_Dialer_Skin.zip
could you post a screenshot?
kramerica2 said:
could you post a screenshot?
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Very nice... you can even uninstall if you don't like it
I've the same and smart dialling works fine. Saw somewhere lots of skins
505 said:
I've the same and smart dialling works fine. Saw somewhere lots of skins
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I like the work that Paulya does. Check it out http://paulya.com/dialerskins.htm
Thanks paulya! (jackaroe808) Glad to see some new stuff out there. Like the pocket portal as well!!
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I've the same and smart dialling works fine. Saw somewhere lots of skins
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why would you say smart dialing works, when it does not. At least not on mine, with this installation above.
I've seen the skin a while ago, but I was reluctant to install it because people said smart dialing was off, and now I'm stuck with it because I believed you.
krale said:
why would you say smart dialing works, when it does not. At least not on mine, with this installation above.
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Can you not uninstall it? Also, here's Eten dialer _with_ smartdial. Use it and love it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263579
i'd love to see a dialer that takes up the whole screen and only has the following
Call History
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1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
* 0 #
Granted of course the call history button can be smaller to accomodate for a larger number display and keys.
jorge_culv said:
Can you not uninstall it? Also, here's Eten dialer _with_ smartdial. Use it and love it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263579
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Thanks mate... Got that one workin' now...
lvlolvlo said:
i'd love to see a dialer that takes up the whole screen and only has the following
Call History
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1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
* 0 #
Granted of course the call history button can be smaller to accomodate for a larger number display and keys.
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This would be great.
I got tired of the three step process to install the dialer, SmartDial and graphics everytime I flashed or did a hard reset. So, I made my own .cab installer file.
I combined DxC's excellent minimal dialer (3b), the new SmartDial version of EtPhone.dll with my own graphics and replaced the contents of DxC's .cab file. I edited the EtPhone.dll file to hide the little black rectangle that is left over from the elapst time display. I also edited the layout for the button sizes to better fit the graphics on the "Call Status" page.
I don't really use the landscape version, so I didn't make any changes there. I'm not really sure who the credit for those graphics should go too.
The results are a one step install Dialer with SmartDial, redial and (I think) pretty good graphics.
I hope you enjoy it.
8-3-2008 - I created a white set of files. The graphics line up pretty well but with an all white background the text at the top of the screen doesn't display. It may work off of the system fonts associated with your theme. If so, your in business... Let me know if the skin works with your white theme and I'll finish the process by creating a cab file.
Still no Landscape. and I can't edit the EtPhone.dll sufficently to get rid of the rectangle, or add extra smart dial lines.
8-6-2008 - I think I did it. I got rid of the rectangle. Actually I moved it to the upper left corner on the same line as the dialed phone numbers. I got to looking at the original EtPhone.dll file (Pauly-A E Ten) I realized that DcX actually moved the buttons around to get the wonderful layout we now have. Someone else moved around the layout to make the Smartdial visible (I don't know who) So I figured, instead of hiding it why not just move it...
... so now it is nearly perfect. (the black one, to me) I still can't seem to figure out how to reverse the text color for the white version. I will keep hacking at it. I won't be making any other layout versions, I'm pretty happy with the layout as it is. I may create some new graphics for this layout. Sorry, I can't please everyone. So I please myself and bring along as many as I can with me.
The .cab file below is the newest version with the rectangle fix.
9-11-2008 - I got to tinkering around again. I moved and resized some buttons on the dialer screen. I enlarged the SmartDialer and enabled the BT headset icon. I also cleaned up the graphics. I only changed the main dialer screen. There are black and white versions. I have only tested on the Wizard. Enjoy...
9-25-2008 - Couple of little edits to show the status icons for headset and location. Okay so I also removed the white line down the left side of the Call Status screen on the black version.
THE IMPORTANT ?
Does it have redial functionality
xboxhaxorz said:
THE IMPORTANT ?
Does it have redial functionality
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Why yes, yes it does...
That is the SmartDial version. Sorry, I should have stated that.
Requests...
Perchance, make the keypad buttons just a bit smaller so that more of the SmartDial list shows (rather than just the one line)...
...and skin the landscape display?
Nice job overall, like the SmartDial addon.
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I got tired of the three step process to install the dialer, SmartDial and graphics everytime I flashed or did a hard reset. So, I made my own .cab installer file.
I combined DxC's excellent minimal dialer (3b), the new SmartDial version of EtPhone.dll with my own graphics and replaced the contents of DxC's .cab file. I edited the EtPhone.dll file to hide the little black rectangle that is left over from the elapst time display. I also edited the layout for the button sizes to better fit the graphics on the "Call Status" page.
I don't really use the landscape version, so I didn't make any changes there. I'm not really sure who the credit for those graphics should go too.
The results are a one step install Dialer with SmartDial, redial and (I think) pretty good graphics.
I hope you enjoy it.
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Very nice dialer but u didnt solve the rectangle problem hiding the middle of the smartdial. I installed, soft-reset, press green call button to display this nice dialer, then slide out keyboard to see default landscape dialer with no smartdial, then closed hardware keyboard putting the screen back to portrait and low and behold, black rectangle box in the middle of smart dial. Awesome dialer if u can really fix the box problem as well as work on the landscape skin. Good Luck!
Love the dailpad...can we change the background to all black?
thanks
nice job...thanks
can we have a white version (easy to see in sun light)
landscape would make it complete
thanks
Mr. Incredible,
This is a perfect & sharp graphical one, thanks for the effort.
Can I have the same with white background please.
Thanks again.
another observation... I'm not sure if this is supposed to happen, been so long since I've used a smartdialer, but the 1 acts as a wildcard for contact names... again, can't remember if that is an original function of it, or what.
perfect,
i also prefer totally black for better reading...
i don't know if this is possible, but to see 2-3 smartdial lines it would be nice.
but i don't know if this is easy to change ?
cu camel
ahmedfikry said:
nice job...thanks
can we have a white version (easy to see in sun light)
landscape would make it complete
thanks
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agree! A white version similar to diamond graphics would be highly appreciated
Any way to use this with HTCTouch's WM7 dial skin? I so miss having that smartdial feature! Now everytime I have to call the last person, i have to either dial number or go to PocketCM. That is no fun!
deeznuts said:
Very nice dialer but u didnt solve the rectangle problem hiding the middle of the smartdial. I installed, soft-reset, press green call button to display this nice dialer, then slide out keyboard to see default landscape dialer with no smartdial, then closed hardware keyboard putting the screen back to portrait and low and behold, black rectangle box in the middle of smart dial. Awesome dialer if u can really fix the box problem as well as work on the landscape skin. Good Luck!
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Sorry I, realized that after I posted. I'm not a programmer. I was just hacking around with the EtPhone.dll file. My resources for editting are pretty limited. I do hate the little rectangle, so I will keep trying. (yes, hate is a strong word)
drunkbastard said:
Perchance, make the keypad buttons just a bit smaller so that more of the SmartDial list shows (rather than just the one line)...
...and skin the landscape display?
Nice job overall, like the SmartDial addon.
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Sorry, I'm not the author of the EtPhone.dll. I just made my graphics fit what is there. Anyway, I like it with the larger buttons. They fit my fat fingers better.
I really like your job a lot but i cannot manage to do vidEo calls ... may you tell me what I have to do or add a dedicated button? Thanks and bye!
ahmedfikry said:
nice job...thanks
can we have a white version (easy to see in sun light)
landscape would make it complete
thanks
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I don't really like sunlight. I try to avoid it at all cost. I may be able to replace the EtPhone.dll in DxC's minimal dialer for you. It's white. (mostly)
Also, the all black background isn't possible. I started with a all black background and the 3D effect I applied added a little bit of "off-black" to achieve the effect. I too would like a more black version but the trade off is not as realistic.
Nice job on the dialer. Big buttons and black are perfect for me.
mr.incredible said:
I got tired of the three step process to install the dialer, SmartDial and graphics everytime I flashed or did a hard reset. So, I made my own .cab installer file.
I combined DxC's excellent minimal dialer (3b), the new SmartDial version of EtPhone.dll with my own graphics and replaced the contents of DxC's .cab file. I edited the EtPhone.dll file to hide the little black rectangle that is left over from the elapst time display. I also edited the layout for the button sizes to better fit the graphics on the "Call Status" page.
I don't really use the landscape version, so I didn't make any changes there. I'm not really sure who the credit for those graphics should go too.
The results are a one step install Dialer with SmartDial, redial and (I think) pretty good graphics.
I hope you enjoy it.
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Hi Mr. Incredible,
Sorry to trouble you.
Can you provide installation instruction.
Thanks & Cheer
Willtay
best dialer ever i used ...
great job
but...
for smart dialing ...
is it possible to make the graphics a little bit smaller, so that smartdial can show 2 or 3 lines ?
cu camel
willtay said:
Hi Mr. Incredible,
Sorry to trouble you.
Can you provide installation instruction.
Thanks & Cheer
Willtay
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Really simple.
1. Uninstall any other dialers you may have installed. (Not including the original)
2. Copy the cab file to your phone and double click. Soft reset the phone.
Description updated 08 Nov 2008
I stopped using the HTC Diamond dialer after I found out that it uses 10MB of memory (8MB on some improved ROMs like SwiftBL) at all times and is partly responsible for the device's laggy dialer performance.
The default WM dialer is an ugly grey but after finding this thread about QVGA skins I decided to make my own black skin. I'd like to thank the starter of that thread, Raceit, for helping me to get started with the image files and trying to fix them for me. Cheers dude!
I don't know how to make CABs yet so here's a zip. (EDIT: CAB available in post #3.) The orange colouring in the screenshots was part of my theme, not part of the skin.
To install, first disable the HTC dialer, see post #2 for more details.
If you would like to install the black 3D skin pictured below, the easiest method is to install the CAB provided by mic_888 in post #3. If you plan to use another skin that doesn't have a CAB then I advise installing the CAB anyway, then copying the images files from the ZIP archive into the Windows folder. There are 2 advantages of installing a CAB - firstly so that the image files are unprotected and easier to overwrite and secondly to make uninstallation easier. Just uninstall the CAB to remove whatever skin you are using and revert to standard the standard WM grey skin.
Hint: The Matrix, Flat Black and Sunset skins in this thread feature transparent buttons with different edge colours, feel free to use them with your own backgrounds. It's just a case of replacing the two png images with your own choice of portrait/landscape images
EDIT: Matrix and Flat Black skins added, see post #24 - CAB now added!
EDIT: Sunset skin added, see post #29 - CAB now added!
EDIT: Grey/White skin added, see post #71 - CAB now added!
EDIT: Dark TouchFlo skin by nhvoltagenh, see post #74-#75
Please also check out the skins by holdemdogg, starting at post #49!
Edit: More Skins, good ones too...
Ryon Skin
Noonski Diamondish Skin
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Dave
Information about using the standard WM dialer
The main drawback of the standard WM dialer is that you cannot use it for video calling. Not an issue for me personally.
The advantages are that it saves almost 10MB of memory, even on ROMs with an optimized dialer, and gets rid of that slight lag when making or answering a call when you're not sure if it's actually going to do anything. A further benefit is that the answer and reject keys are much more difficult to press accidentally, removing the need for an additional locking program (Answerkeys Disabler, TouchLockPro, S2U2, etc.)
The HTC dialer can be disabled using DiamondTweak or Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool. You must also disable the HTC Volume Control if you wish to be able to adjust the volume in-call. The only working method that I know of is to use this CAB here.
Edit: It turns out that disabling the HTC dialer also loses the Bluetooth icon in the taskbar. I had a quick google and found this solution. I've tested it and it works fine on my Diamond. File attached below for convenience.
Edit 2: The developers of the bluetooth icon app have released a new version that's more compatible with VGA! See below.
Made a cab - I haven't tested it though
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Made a cab - I haven't tested it though
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Perfect! Tested OK.
Thanks!
cab doesn't work. and image files can't be copy to the windows folder.
Great work I was looking for this and will include in my Lite rom, can you tranform also Phone_DPI_192 files? (call history), many thanks....
ciberus said:
Great work I was looking for this and will include in my Lite rom, can you tranform also Phone_DPI_192 files? (call history), many thanks....
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Nice one, glad someone else finds it useful! Can you post any more information? I don't know where those files are.
If anyone has any requests for other colours or designs, let me know. Also please feel free to post your own designs here.
so all i do is run the cab and then 10 mb will be freed up? does this work on the sprint diamond?
Any idea how to undo disable HTC volume control if I plan to go back to default HTC dialer?
Is the cab changing some registry settings?
stuckonashelf said:
so all i do is run the cab and then 10 mb will be freed up? does this work on the sprint diamond?
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No you need to disable the HTC dialer and volume control too. See post #2 for details. I don't know enough about the differences in the sprint but I expect so.
raspdeep said:
Any idea how to undo disable HTC volume control if I plan to go back to default HTC dialer?
Is the cab changing some registry settings?
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I don't really know what that cab does. Have you tried uninstalling from remove programs then soft-resetting?
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If anyone has any requests for other colours or designs, let me know.
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Well done, I'd like to try this!
But, as I use skilty's TF3D Matrix theme with it's skinned dialer, I'd like to request a Matrix WM dialer skin, please. For personal use and to share it in the Matrix Trilogy theme resource thread.
Maybe you want to have a go at it? It would be great if you could design one with 'real' 1234567890 digits. Perhaps from one of the free Matrix fonts.. And it would be bonus if you could design another skin with 'actual' Matrix font digits, like these.
Or maybe you can just use skilty's dialer artwork? I could ask skilty. Anyway, TIA!
Thanks Davey101!
I'm waiting for that since a long time!!!
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Well done, I'd like to try this!
But, as I use skilty's TF3D Matrix theme with it's skinned dialer, I'd like to request a Matrix WM dialer skin, please. For personal use and to share it in the Matrix Trilogy theme resource thread.
Maybe you want to have a go at it? It would be great if you could design one with 'real' 1234567890 digits. Perhaps from one of the free Matrix fonts.. And it would be bonus if you could design another skin with 'actual' Matrix font digits, like these.
Or maybe you can just use skilty's dialer artwork? I could ask skilty. Anyway, TIA!
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News flash!
The Matrix trilogy ended, lamely, 5 years ago!
I think it might be easiest to use transparent buttons with a simple green border so that the matrix background image is seen through the buttons. I'll see what I can come up with, unless you'd like to have a go?
I don't know how to change the button font, sorry.
I use Vito Winterface....
I have made these buttons but not centered!
(I take the same gif mesure of Black VGA Dialer skin: 86x56, 128x54, 142x56 and 180x54)
If somebody could help me...
THX!!!
ZeuBug said:
I use Vito Winterface....
I have made these buttons but not centered!
(I take the same gif mesure of Black VGA Dialer skin for example, 86x56, 128x54, 142x56 and 180x54)
If somebody could help me...
THX!!!
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Sorry I don't understand that!
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Sorry I don't understand that!
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My (very) bad english or my problem???
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My (very) bad english or my problem???
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Your problem (maybe because of your English!)
Hi all,
Is anyone able to develope a Dialer skin that increases the numeric button sizes, There is a big bar of space at the top of the dialer that could be used for the other buttons we use, Or can we remove the call history list to increase the buttons?
Dan
creeky said:
Hi all,
Is anyone able to develope a Dialer skin that increases the numeric button sizes, There is a big bar of space at the top of the dialer that could be used for the other buttons we use, Or can we remove the call history list to increase the buttons?
Dan
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I'm sure it is possible but that would involve replacing or editing the dialer software, not just the skin. The standard software has a fixed layout and we can replace the images used but not change their size or position.
It might be worth looking around for an alternative dialer...
Davey101 said:
News flash!
The Matrix trilogy ended, lamely, 5 years ago!
I think it might be easiest to use transparent buttons with a simple green border so that the matrix background image is seen through the buttons. I'll see what I can come up with, unless you'd like to have a go?
I don't know how to change the button font, sorry.
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Ouch
Well, I don't know how to change anything on the WM dialer, so please, try transparent buttons and a simple green border and I'll check it out. Cheers!
just follow the link
http://www.o3touch.com/
the best dialer out there only released yesterday and its free for now !!
Any screens, as none on site either?!?!?
there is a pdf file under manuals that will show images and how to use it.
Cheers for that, don't really like the look of it.
I'm not seeing the advantage...using the stock dialer does both the number and the name search at the same time. Keyboard looks too complex, taking the alpha/numeric stock dialer, and splitting it into seperate screens.
To each their own.
i think it is f...g amazing also! going to give it a try. it happened to me that instead of dialing the contact i dialed the 3-4 numbers corresponding to the letters. i almost never type a number so why keep them?
this app can do everything except a good cup of coffee even taking you straight to settings or programs. if you'll download and read the pdf manual you'll also be at least intrigued. it is an app you can turn it on (loading it ) or off, this is not a skin. it is a completely new concept. the graphics (has one skin for night and one for the day) are not bad also....
i installed it and going to settings i discovered that you can add a second language by yr choice by typing the letters of yr language in the dialer (you can build the dialer).
the program is small and occupies only a little over 400 K.
look at the second pic, i started changing the keyboard (first two buttons).
It's good that it's free. But it's not the type of dialer I am looking for/forward to. I really want a vga dialer which has big keys (not just like 3/5 of the screen space). Something similar to the minimal dialer here. But that one is for qvga screen. I am hoping if someone could port this to vga screen or I'll have to do it myself.... and I am not a pro. It would take a little less time than forever .
amazing is something else
just like u said....
to each their own.....
i find it making sms email and dialing with above 200 contacts very easy.
the diamonds system is more difficult.
read the manual u can change almost anything u like in the settings
and when u get use to the touch system...i just cant work with out it......
KukurikU said:
i think it is f...g amazing also! going to give it a try. it happened to me that instead of dialing the contact i dialed the 3-4 numbers corresponding to the letters. i almost never type a number so why keep them?
this app can do everything except a good cup of coffee even taking you straight to settings or programs. if you'll download and read the pdf manual you'll also be at least intrigued. it is an app you can turn it on (loading it ) or off, this is not a skin. it is a completely new concept. the graphics (has one skin for night and one for the day) are not bad also....
i installed it and going to settings i discovered that you can add a second language by yr choice by typing the letters of yr language in the dialer (you can build the dialer).
the program is small and occupies only a little over 400 K.
look at the second pic, i started changing the keyboard (first two buttons).
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u can download the cab file with hebrew settings already inside......
http://www.o3touch.com/hebrew.html
enjoy...
It's ugly as hell! Not for me.
@esabo1: are u the programmer of this dialer?
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It's ugly as hell! Not for me.
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i bet we'll see lots of skins in the nearest future. you might think it is ugly but give it a try....sending sms without switching programs and easy typing from yr dial pad are only two of the things that make it superior to the diamond's system not to mention the fact that you can build yourself (in settings) the keyboard with yr kind of fonts and keys arrangement. beautiful things are not always also very practical
i confirm that it is ugly and it looks like an exploded bag full of letters.
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i confirm that it is ugly and it looks like an exploded bag full of letters.
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thank you for yr confirmation and for yr useful contribution to this thread.
this is what i call a very professional review
its not a review, its my impression.
AENIGMA said:
@esabo1: are u the programmer of this dialer?
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no im not......
actually im just a user.....dont have any programing experience.....
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i confirm that it is ugly and it looks like an exploded bag full of letters.
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Me the Ugly full of letters programer.
It is not about been beauty, it is about doing the job. Some users with 1500 contacts and up actually did try it. They never stop using it.
bbju said:
It's good that it's free. But it's not the type of dialer I am looking for/forward to. I really want a vga dialer which has big keys (not just like 3/5 of the screen space). Something similar to the minimal dialer here. But that one is for qvga screen. I am hoping if someone could port this to vga screen or I'll have to do it myself.... and I am not a pro. It would take a little less time than forever .
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It's funny that you compare this dialer with the o3touch.
Without the O3 can you do Email, SMS, and dialing in the same application?
Can you get Clear Big letters fonts on incomming SMS or incomming call?
While these programs are shiny and sparkeling , they havy and most of the time have troubles with doing the things they supposed to do.
This program is light (less then 300K) , stable, compatible with VGA screens, and short the numbers of operation moves from the user (smart user or not).
So if the program is look sparkly or not is not the issue, but I think the dark skin looks great on the diamond or the Touch pro.
...and what makes it so special for us less-smart people?
I have done much searching across xda and the web and have still yet to find what i am looking for. I have a diamond and like many people i disabled the HTC dialer due to the ring delay.
I have been using the standard wm dialer. I am quite happy with the incall screen this provides but i am unhappy with just one aspect of the dialing screen. I like the smart dialing feature and use this all the time only ever using "contacts" for sms. BUT I find that sometimes it is difficult to select a name from the rather small list above the keypad. I dont see the point in the dialed digits being displayed so large as they do not need to be selected with a finger. I have therefore been looking for a way to reduce the size of the dialed numbers and increase the size of the contacts in the list. Couldnt find any tweak to do this
I did find a program yesterday (cant remember its name now) that displayed easily selectable tabs in place of the small menu items sadly twas qvga only and develpment had been stopped years ago. I have looked at using alternatives such as phonex ect but these come with incall screens and call history lists ect which i dont need or want. All i want is slightly larger menu items OR a simple dialer screen only, no incall screen ect but i would like it to look nice tho.
Does anyone know how this mod could be made or of any app suitable? I've attatched a screeny to give you an idea of what i mean
Thanks Guys and Gals
I'm interested too