Hi, I have tried the Windows Media for wm2005 and tcpmp.. I have not found ideal settings that allow me (even with the batterytoday plugin overclocking my phone to 286 or as high as that program will allow you to go) I have a hard time playing video without it being choppy... my avi's I play with tcpmp and wmv play quite well on windows media however not perfect... I figure im nearly clocking the processor to 300mhz and I would imagine this could be enough to play avi and other popular video formats with the proper setup or even a different app... does anyone have any suggestions to settings i might try in tcpmp and or some other program or even windows media tweaks or anything that might help..
greatly appriceated.
-James
did u installed all codecs for TCPMP cause I can play all kind of video nearly perfect for a PDA with TCPMP
probably should rencode your files with pocket divx encoder just google it. its also free too.
I am sure anyone who has had experience of it will agree slingplayer is one of the best applications for a pocket pc.
However on the Ameo, which is the variant I have, its performance is a lot to be desired. Whether I use it on the wifi or HSDPA it seems to be jerky all the time (not a very good user experience). The stats say the 300kb/s to 400kb/s is being achieved but the frame rate doesn’t go much above 10 (is it the darn video driver again?). The settings i use are:
Enable slingstream optimization
High action
video resolution : 320 by 240
audio : mono low
Managed to borrow a dell Axim X51 (qVGA screen, 412Mhz version) the other day, and tested its slingplayer performance and frankly was amazed at the difference. It was managing 30 frames per second and was super smooth whether portrait or landscape (same slingplayer settings by the way).
Ameo has the same processor as the Dell only faster, different graphics chip though.
Is it because Dell has a proper video driver or the fact that it is only a qVGA resolution i.e. 4 times less area to display. You will note that best performing devices as far as SPB graphics benchmark are qVGA.
I have read on threads people being pretty happy with slingplayer performance but that’s a subjective statement.
Could people who have used slingplayer on any variant of the athena, i.e. advantage X7500, X7501, dopod 1000 etc. state the frame rate and the bandwidth they are achieving (either cellular or wifi connection) so we can narrow down the problem.
1) Lack of proper ATI driver on all or some of the athena variants.
2) VGA screen taxing the processor too much (shouldn't be as the slingplayer application is still trying to display qVGA resolution, assuming 4 pixels displaying the same image is less strenuous on the processor than displaying 4 distinct images)
3) Some other reason such as splingplayer not optimized for the ATI chip?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated
I tried this last night and I am getting 10-15fps whether connected to my wi-fi network or via 3G and my vid is jerky as well. Disappointing but hopefully will get better... I am using the default settings (slingstream optimization and medium action).
EDIT: FWIW, the Axim x51v is VGA 640x480...
EDIT2: My bandwidth is 200-300kbps whether connected to wi-fi or 3G.
assuming you guys are using win media player to play the videos, you are probably running into the same issues I had trying to stream from ORB to my ameo, the fix was to use the windows mobile 5 (windows media video 9) codecs for windows media player ! simply unpack the attached files and copy into your windows folder then reboot.
apperntly there is an issue with the Windows media video 10 codecs supplied with win mobile 6 !
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assuming you guys are using win media player to play the videos, you are probably running into the same issues I had trying to stream from ORB to my ameo, the fix was to use the windows mobile 5 (windows media video 9) codecs for windows media player ! simply unpack the attached files and copy into your windows folder then reboot.
apperntly there is an issue with the Windows media video 10 codecs supplied with win mobile 6 !
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The slingplayer mobile application is self contained (no WMP involved) and plays live streaming video only...
same problem here
billu said:
1) Lack of proper ATI driver on all or some of the athena variants.
2) VGA screen taxing the processor too much (shouldn't be as the slingplayer application is still trying to display qVGA resolution, assuming 4 pixels displaying the same image is less strenuous on the processor than displaying 4 distinct images)
3) Some other reason such as splingplayer not optimized for the ATI chip?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated
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The reason is that SlingMobile is using DirectDraw. The DDraw API on WM is slooooow. Thats the reason players like PocketTV or TCPMP went out of their way to code driver support for GPUs
The X7501 def has the ATI Imageon drivers there (I pointed this out on another thread), but it doesnt matter much. DDRaw+ATI=slow. DDRaw+Intel 2700=not TOO bad (hence the X51V working)
Basically, every PPC ever made from the Axim X51V forward should have had the Intel 2700. That they didnt has crippled the platform when it comes to video. The Imageon has potential, but ATI seems very hard to work with and getting it optimized is NOT easy.
The Marvell may save this situation if devs can start to take full advantage of WMMX2. Early reports show that with straight DDRaw, the Marvell proc alone is STILL not up to Intel 2700 standards, but Id bet that with direct WMMX2 enhanced code, it would be.
you can increase the buffer, but you have to do it in the registry, once you change it you cant go back into settings and change anything without changing the buffer back to 4 seconds
hklm\software\sling media\slingplayer\player
precharge duration = 10000
the 10000 in milliseconds
Thanks for the comments.
So it seems that the only hope is if an update of the slingplayer software decides to use the ATI Imageon driver.
Just to clear something up, the Dell I used was a X51 (320 by 240) and NOT a X51V (which is 640 by 480)
Is it possible to get the slingplayer to use the ATI driver using a registry tweak??
I would assume if they had developed ATI support they'd expose it. It may be possible that there is some undocumented dedicated support for the Imageon, but I havent seen anything.
I have just got my slingbox this week and I liked the idea of been able to watch my sky+ recordings, but playback via 3g is watchable but only about 15 fps , there is no improvement using wifi? However my cctv camera works smooth and looks great- possibly becouse its a black and white camera?
As a previous poster said orb works very good playing back full size divx from my home pc via either wmp or tcpmp without problems over 3g? but orb requires the pc to be on all the time, which is why I got the slingbox.
I just hope someone with more skill and knowlage than myself can sort a solution
Sling has released a new version of their mobile player that uses GDI instead of DirectDraw. Has anyone tried this on their Athena to see if it improves performance?
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Sling has released a new version of their mobile player that uses GDI instead of DirectDraw. Has anyone tried this on their Athena to see if it improves performance?
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I tried GDI but the frame rate dropped off significantly.
There are 3 major problems with SlingPlayer on the Athena. As said before, it does not use the ATI video driver. But also the maximum supported resolution is only 320x240 and the maximum bit rate is only 600kbs. So it's never going to look as good as TCPMP for example.
The best setting to change to make SlingPlayer watchable is to specifically set the video bit rate to 600kbs. Unless this is done, the SlingPlayer never seems to use more than 300kbs and the result is very poor video. With 600kbs bit rate and 320x240 resolution, I get about 15fps on average. If I drop the resolution to 224x176 I get nearly 30fps.
My Slingbox video stream is 77kbs
I hope any body can help me with this issue.
I have my slingbox set in NY,USA, and I'm now in Bahrain my internet provider speed is 2mbs download/ 512 kbs, and the internet provider in NY is verizon at 6mbs/ 760kbs upload.
However, every time I start my sling box on my laptop (Dell D610), the video optimization start at 600-700 kbs and end up in 2 min in 77 kbs and stop there.
I don't know, if this is something has to do with the setup or what exactly...?
Can any body help me with that??
Thanks
Are you saying you have a problem using your slingbox on your Athena or your laptop? If your laptop then you are posting in the wrong place!
anyone figure out the optimal settings for our athena's to get buffering/playback more manageable?
Its well documented that Core player (this forums media player of choice) only uses CPU for play back and doesnt utilise any GPU acceleration.
Do you know of any players out there that use both GPU and CPU for vid processing?
Smart Movie from lonely cat games is pretty decent any one got an opinion on that as a media player?
Would I be right in assuming that using GPU over CPU to play back video will have a good effect on the battery life, or will powering that screen outweigh any benefits.
Windows media player and the htc album player both use gpu playback on the codecs they support i cannot remember the ones that definately have it. Im sure someone else will or go find the default ones, post and i may be able to remember from that list instead.
any way of installing "codecs" to the standard players then ? since they use both cpu and gpu wich coreplayer dosent ...
That's a very good question I have tried coreplayer and tcpmp and too be honest I am not that impressed by them.
+1 for being able to use additional codecs via WMP.
I just want to be able to play xvids!! Really shouldn't be too difficult in the days where Windows 7 supports them naively on my laptop
I'm using Touch HD.
I have used this tool to convert videos to MP4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
And play them using Album.
kengkaj.s said:
I'm using Touch HD.
I have used this tool to convert videos to MP4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
And play them using Album.
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Hi there - thanks for the tip. However, personally I don't want to have to go to the trouble of converting etc. I generally have all of my videos in xvid format as this is a fairly universal format (sometimes play them on my Media Centre, sometime on others Xbox 360s etc), so just want to be able to play these on my HD2!
Have you tried searching?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...or Windows Media Player Mobile & Intel Xscale
nadderf, that plugin only runs on devices using the Intel Xscale PXA-2_7_x CPU’s
Have to try this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5219477#post5219477
but the image is mirrored , need to watch it with a mirror~
I'm currently still soldiering on with TCPMP for xvid playback. (My suspicion is that Coreplayer would also h ave this problem). There are times when playback gets jerky; but if I play the same scene again it runs perfectly. My guess is that other tasks running in the background are competing for CPU resources. On desktop Windows one can go into Task Manager and set a process to be "High priority" which prevents normal processes from stealing its CPU time. Is there an equivalent on Windows Mobile?