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Divx play back performance on the shift under vista

Hi Folks,
I haven't bought the shift yet but I'm certainly leaning heavily in that direction.
Can you please tell me about your experiences playing Divx video using the shift? I'm hearing mixed messages about the video capabilities of the machine some are saying it's no good for this some are saying it's fine which is it?
Please note I'm not talking about utube or wmv I'm talking divx avi files I would like to use this as a media player.
Cheers, Chris

I have the K-lite codec pack installed including Media Player Clasic (K-Lite Mega Codec Pack).
The Divx I used played verry shoothly, I do not exactly know how this file was encoded. It was just an episode of a TV series that I missed and downloaded to watch on the train. (350Mb for 50 minutes...)
Greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

it does play divx well. Never had problems. The real question, can it play mkv files? I'm trying that in windows xp (no chance in vista i suppose) and i get some huge lags between sound and image.

facdemol said:
it does play divx well. Never had problems. The real question, can it play mkv files? I'm trying that in windows xp (no chance in vista i suppose) and i get some huge lags between sound and image.
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Did you try VLC?
Huib
Floreasca, Bucharest

Better use vlc: excellent performance, and no codec pack that can wreak havoc on your system

i've used gome player and media player classic, both configured to use "above average" process priority but no fun. gome has it's own internal codec system, only added matroska mkv codec.
I'll check what VLC has to offer.

I run VLC on my Shift and the only degradation I have seen on it is in full screen mode on the 1024x600 resolution. Definitely recommend VLC on the Shift.

I have a better experience with this:
Use Media Player Classic Home Cinema from here.
It has in the options the "EVR" Video Output which has a better image quality and lower CPU usage under Vista. And the GUI is better than VLC's ^^
And for the codecs I use the ffdshow tryouts.
I recommend clsid's latest Intel Compiler 10 builds, because they have a little performance improvement when using some post-processing filters.

video not playing in p3400

I recently bought a P3400, it says it supports video playing. But when i play a *.avi, media player throws an error "can not play this file". How do I play video on my phone? Pls help.

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try core player

Try TCPMP coreplayer.It is freely available and much better the windows media player in the pocketpc. It can play full 3 hrs movie whereas windows media player starts crying while opening large files.

core player works fine for me while playing .avi files. but it stutters while playing h264(mp4,mkv) encoded files. does anyone know of any codec or any setttings for the smooth playing of these files.

swordfish123 said:
core player works fine for me while playing .avi files. but it stutters while playing h264(mp4,mkv) encoded files. does anyone know of any codec or any setttings for the smooth playing of these files.
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Just overclock your device while playing heavy movies. It plays smoothly for me, while overclocking.
Another option is, converting the movies to a bit lower clarity. You can use "Youtube Downloader" software, which has got a very good conversion tool. Convert your existing MP4 (or any other) movie to the same type with "optimal" setting. After that movie plays smoothly on P3400i, without even overclocking. In this case too, clarity is also not tampered at all, in fact, it is good.

dheerajk27 said:
Just overclock your device while playing heavy movies. It plays smoothly for me, while overclocking.
Another option is, converting the movies to a bit lower clarity. You can use "Youtube Downloader" software, which has got a very good conversion tool. Convert your existing MP4 (or any other) movie to the same type with "optimal" setting. After that movie plays smoothly on P3400i, without even overclocking. In this case too, clarity is also not tampered at all, in fact, it is good.
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Can u mention the tool you use to overclock your device. And how much do i overclock it. The current clock speed is 201 Mhz. Doesnt overclocking cause any heating problems??

Overclocking
use HomeScreen Plus Plus
Is superb

Rhodium Video very very poor

I am trying to play downloaded DVD movies on my Rhodium and i presume its using Windows Media, the playback is sluggish and the sound is not in sync with the playback, is this the best i can expect after spending £500 or is it just that i need another media player? Shooting video and playing back seems fine the problem is when i convert a DVD the playback is pretty appalling, ANY HELP FROM ANYONE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
tHANKS
Allan

What format are the movies you're downloading? What are you using to convert them? Are the downloaded movies in sync? How about the converted ones? If you play them on your PC, are they synced up?

Check the resolution of the movie. Make sure it is 640x480. You don;t want to have the CPU doing all the resizing as the movie is being played. Some format may be better than the others too. And try with WMP. I believe it has hardware acceleration built-in.
Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.

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Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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amen! lol anyways ya you just arent formating the dvd'rips very well then cause i have a few full dvd's playing in perfect quality and timing on WMP and that's not even the best player to use

Use core player, it works fine with most videos (far better than the standard app)

Vio
try VIO Video Converter for your DVD conversions and select full quality. The file sizes are large but the quality and audio/video sync is superb.

Core Player is great and I consider 640x384 to be the optimal resolution for playback. Get a good video encoder and experiment for yourself though.

Use Super C to resize the video and then coreplayer to play it, no problems at all!

I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.

As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?

Kloc said:
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?

barneypooch said:
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney

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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
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It come on the device. HTC Album

i just can't imagine that there is no possibility to play normal divx/avi movies on my tp2 .. just like on pc.
i don't want to waste my time converting all videos just to watch it on tp2 ..
same prob with subtitle support .. can't be that difficult ?! only tcpmp can play them with an extension .. (and that video playback isn't smooth!)

http://kinoma.com/
give that a try and let us know if you are happy or not please

kinoma doesn't support divx/xvid

i use a free program called handbrake and my settings are 480x320,mpeg4,480 biterate-Audio,AAC 160 biterate. i actually used these settings on my G1 originally but when i got my TP2 i tried a few of the movies out since they wur already on my memory card and they all play and sound great on the default player.

im using coreplayer and ive not had a problem playing any movie downloaded from the net. anything from 700mb to 1.6mb dvd rips, ive watched probably 60 odd and they've all played perfectly. never had to convert anything.
coreplayer is definetely the best thing to get supports pretty much everything
i only use the album player for converted hd content (using the converter someone made on this site) = that plays excellent as well, and looks better (i might be ight in thinking album uses hardward acceleration as well)

ranney said:
What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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Menu > Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Video
Change "Video Output" to GDI if the player is choppy/crappy. On my Telus (CDMA) Touch Pro 2 the QTv Display works fine but I know other HTC devices have required GDI instead.

The playback on this phone sucks big time! Not sure what it is .... coreplayer GDI does not work and Tcpmp with all kinds of tweaks settings does not play videos smooth at all. You can tell there are frame skipping in my phone. My wing plays videos better than this. GEEZ!!!!!

video/codec player for tp2

Hi
I know there are a few video player out there like divx, core player and the media player itself. What I usually watch at home are
avi files, mkv, real player, not much of mp4 unless I need to transcode them myself. Someone give me some idea what I will most likely to use or be able to read smoothly with the tp2. Thank you.

Not sure what you are asking
On my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 I use the stock media player that comes on the ROM.
For movies and downloaded videos I use the "Microsoft Zune" mp4 setting for videos.
For example, on my DVD movies I have used Slysofts "AnyDVD" and CloneDVD Mobile for converting my movies into a format that will play on my TP2.
The Slysoft Clone DVD Mobile has various encoders you can select, depending on the device you have.
I spent a half day trying various settings because "Touch Pro2" was not one of the available settings. I eventually found that "Microsoft Zune (MP4)" works perfect.
Not sure if I can provide links, so just Google "Slysoft CloneDVD mobile" and the site will come up.
Hope that helps.
Sidenote: Windows WMV format also plays on the TP2 but as you might suspect the quality is horrible and it lags big time.

SanFrancisco said:
Sidenote: Windows WMV format also plays on the TP2 but as you might suspect the quality is horrible and it lags big time.
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What? WMV is usually better quality for me.

What program is used to play Transformer movies?

What program is used to play the Transformer movies? It does not have much options like CorePlayer but it did a good job of playing the Transformer movies.
Also, if I want to use it to play other movies that I encode using this same player, where do I put these new movies. Do I put it in the folder called "Transformers" in the SD card? But then how do the Transformer movies have their own icon? Still trying to figure this out.

It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.

Which would be a better player? The default one on the HD2 or CorePlayer (the latest version). I know that CorePlayer is not free but I just like to know which one performs better. CorePlayer can play .mkv files so that is a good advantage.

The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and sometimes stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).

amb9800 said:
The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and often stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).
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hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.

GHOST99K said:
hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.
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They generally work fine if I soft-reset and make sure Wifi, etc. are off and nothing else is running, but otherwise in normal operation, where I might have email open and 3G + Wifi enabled in the background, I often get less than perfect playback. Usually still watchable, but hardly impressive (and definitely not something I'd show to iPhone 3GS-toting friends, who instantly notice the frame drops and such).

amb9800 said:
It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.
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The HTC Streaming Media Player is not a skinned WMP. Its specifically developed by HTC to take advantage of the hardware acceleration for MP4 files with the Snapdragon processor. The video performance is far superior to Coreplayer or WMP.
You can convert your video files to take advantage of this hardware acceleration by using Touch HD Encoder (search

i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.

GHOST99K said:
i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.
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It's pretty clear (to me, at least) that the native Video Player is the best player between the 3.
Video Player plays very limited file types, which is a minus. re-encoding video files to MP4 takes long time, and file size goes up, if you want to keep the same 'high-quality' video.
CorePlayer does a great job playing various file types, so it's easier to view movies, that's for sure.

being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.

Transformers movies path
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance

CorePlayer
fnuna said:
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance
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Just make a folder named 'Transformers' on your memory card, install the files to it and it will find it.
Transformers looks wonderful, but converting is such a chore with getting all the settings right and such. Of course, I would want the exact conversion process that was used on Transformers. Coreplayer is the best for me. No converting, just play and the quality is very high. Plus, best music player and streams Youtube videos. It's the only app I've paid nearly $30.00 for and would do it again. I must have it.

ce_rob said:
being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.
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Yes I would love to see a write up, the prob Im having is I have been trying different programs & settings for burning my dvd's to my phone and none have looked as good as the Transformers movies. Any insight would be appreciated