My O2 -Hermes drives me crazy. Help ! - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Since a few weeks I have following issue with my O2 Trion:
Even though the antenna signal shows 100% strenght, I have 1 chance on 2 being unable either to make a call or to receive (same counts for SMS send/receive) When people call me, the call is forwarded directly to my voice mail like my telephone is shut of. When calling someone, I got 3X dong-dong sound without getting through
I have changed the SIM card , uninstalled a lot of applications but problem remains.
What other tests can I do to see if it is a soft or hardware problem?
The sof onboard is the original delivered on + pocketmechanic pro WM5 and Pocketmusic.
My O2 was originally German with QwertZ layout, got the 1.23.707.1 ROM, the radio version 1.06.00.10 and protocol 32.37.7010.01H.
Before I hand over my so precious tool, I wanted to know of some experts here have any suggestions?
Thanks upfront!

I've had several phones in the past that show maximum signal when actually they have virtually no signal at all!!
I wonder whether it's worth trying to limit the connection (as a test) to GSM band only, just in case you've got the band switching issue.
Start>settings>personal tab>phone>band and only selecting GSM in the drop down boxes.
Mike

mikechannon said:
I've had several phones in the past that show maximum signal when actually they have virtually no signal at all!!
I wonder whether it's worth trying to limit the connection (as a test) to GSM band only, just in case you've got the band switching issue.
Start>settings>personal tab>phone>band and only selecting GSM in the drop down boxes.
Mike
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Thanks, but I tried all options in those settings already. Auto + Auto, GSM +Auto, GSM + UMTS etc.. nothing seems to be stable. There is no rational behind to clarify this issue...
What i do notice is that when my network goes from GSM to UMTS depending of the strongest network, UMTS shows less issues( I believe)

I had similar radio problems with my German TyTN (E-Plus), that are resolved now that the device was replaced.
The E-Plus hotline confirmed there are some devices with unrepairable radio problems.
So before you or your callers go crazy with calls dropped by your TyTN or not being able to find a network or you're tired of the quick battery drain, the mediocre CPU performance or obscure crashes, get it replaced.

Would it help if I boot to another radio version only, or is it hardware related?
Issue is that O2 Trion is not supported / distributed in Taiwan (as all WM5are Chinese here)
Does someone knows if DOPOD would do the repair for a O2 XDA trion german version in another country than they distribute their devices?
Any hotline to ask?
Thanks

No, they probably won't. Upgrade the ROM, and flash the new radio. Read the wiki's and ASK FOR HELP before you do anything you are unsure of.
Follow these instructions to the letter and you'll be okay. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285586
Let me know if you have problems with the bootloader version
Good luck

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Faulty?

Hi, I am having trouble with my Jasjar and it is really affecting me! The problem is that when I am talking over the phone the person on the other side complains that they can't listen to all the things I say, they loose about 1 of 15 words I speak. I have tried using this on many coverage areas, different hours, with Bluetooth and WiFi turned off, etc... I am have installed and tested on my device the shipped ROM and the ROM version 1.13.53 with Radio 1.03.01 Ext ROM version 1.13.137. (I can't try any other ROM because they will cancel my warranty if I do so) I took it to a Support Center of my Mobile Phone Service Provider (Telcel in Mexico) and they tried with other SIM cards (other phone lines and 3.0, 3.5 Volts version) that didn't helped, they told me to use it in the Band PCS1900 and that also didn't fixed it.
So I want to know if my Jasjar is deffective or if this is a well known issue that will be fixed in the next Jasjar ROM Upgrade or that Microsoft will fix for the Windows Mobile 2005 AKU2, or if this issue will never be fixed for this device. Or of my device is faulty?
It has done this since I bought it from Expansys.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
Rodrigo Gonzalez Balsa
Microphone AGC
Try enabling the Microphone AGC in the Settings > System menu. It May help. If it is already enable then try disabling it and see if it make any difference.
Thank you, yes I already tried this Enabled and Dissabled, it also didn't helped :?
Anyway I think this setting only affects when you are Recording a note or something.
Rodrigo Gonzalez
the mic of the universal is to the left of the instrument. try and flip the instrument so you can talk into the mic. Just ensure you keep track where the mic is when speaking, i think that should slove the problem.
Yes, thank you zillocx I tried that the first 2 days when people started complaining that they were loosing some of the words I speak, I thought I needed more time to get used to the Jasjar, but after 2 weeks I have convinced myself that this is some kind of bug or something?
I have already tried using a Bluetooth headset (Nokia HS-11W) and is the same thing. I think they listen to me clearly when I am not using it since my Mobile Phone Provider changed my SIM card for a 3 Volts version.
This is weird and I don't want to return this unit because I have always encouraged people to get devices like the Jasjar instead of their normal phones and a PDA, but now they are proving me wrong!
SOLVED!
Hi, after many months and sending my Jasjar back to warranty without success of getting my problem solved...
I finally have 2 solutions for it:
1) With a Tested and Approved ROM from i-mate-> Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01 and ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I managed to solve this problem if I change my carrier, here in Mexico 2 companies offer GSM (Telcel and Movistar) if I connect to Movistar the problem dissapears, but they have few antennas.
2) With the new i-mate Test ROM version: 1.30.68 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00 and ExtROM: 1.30.153 WWE
The problem is solved without changing to another carrier! But! If I install Microsoft’s .net Compact Framework 2.0 the problem returns.
Any ideas what is going on here?
Is anybody is reading this?
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
Not sure why there are 3 antenea but I can gaurentee that they will declare warranty void as soon as you say you've been poking around with it. Is it not possible to make an aeriel? By the way the conductive tape justs looks like a screening shield which could be replicated with some aluminium foil.
3 Antenna maybe because,...
Bluetooth,
WiFi,
GSM??
Re: Is anybody is reading this?
bogusiano said:
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
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Ithing the missing one is GSM antena ... because wifi antena is locator on the side of your device
GSM Antenna
Yes you are right guys, it is definitely a GSM Antenna, I think it handles the outgoing data on a call (my voice), but only on some types of networks, because with my current operator (Movistar) it doesn't matter the missing antenna, the other person can hear me crystal clear, but no on the Telcel network. I think Telcel network is older, maybe I-mate just "deprecated" this part of the antenna, haha.
I know that I shouldn't have opened my device, but I knew something was interfering my GSM antenna, I thought maybe the wifi and the gsm antenna were very close on my Jasjar and that's why I was having this problems.
I will try to contact I-mate and ask them for the antenna, I hope they at least apologize, because had a lot of problems because of this little piece of metal!!!
I will keep you updated...
Download link?
bogusiano said:
Hi, after many months and sending my Jasjar back to warranty without success of getting my problem solved...
I finally have 2 solutions for it:
1) With a Tested and Approved ROM from i-mate-> Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01 and ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I managed to solve this problem if I change my carrier, here in Mexico 2 companies offer GSM (Telcel and Movistar) if I connect to Movistar the problem dissapears, but they have few antennas.
2) With the new i-mate Test ROM version: 1.30.68 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00 and ExtROM: 1.30.153 WWE
The problem is solved without changing to another carrier! But! If I install Microsoft’s .net Compact Framework 2.0 the problem returns.
Any ideas what is going on here?
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Could someone direct me as to where I can download these ROMs? I've been looking to no avail..
thank you.
Awesome Find!!
bogusiano said:
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
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DUDE!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!! People have been complaining about me not receiving calls, so I finally started to investigate and after a long search stumbled across this post!! I opened mine up and bingo, I am missing this antenna as well.
I'm going to try to fabricate a replacement and see if things go better. Someone ought to pin this post or put it somewhere obvious as this is a big find!!
Thanks again dude!
UPDATE:
OK... I've been trying to fabricate a new antenna using some sheet aluminum, but it is too flimsy to keep the contact. Also bloody hard to cut to the right size (took me four attempts) and finally succeeded size-wise after measuring with a micrometer.
Can anyone please suggest an alternative? Is there a place to get a replacement antenna with all 3 in place?
New Antenna, no help...
I managed to make a more sturdy antenna using pop can metal. I ensured that the contacts were actually conductive and placed it in. However, I don't see a noticeable improvement in signal strength.
May I suggest that the 3 antenna's are for EGSM (900), DCS1800 and PCS1900? Presumably, that would also explain the different sizes in the plates...I'd say the largest one is 900, the second largest is 1800 and the smallest is 1900.
The GSM mode sets EGSM and DCS1800 which are the modes I used. The second largest antenna is the one that appears to be missing. I'm going to try service on PCS1900, but I don't think my carrier uses it.
Still looking for an OEM antenna if anyone can direct me there.

cingular gsm service dropping on 8525

i have a cingular 8525 and since yesterday, it keeps dropping my gsm service completely. like i look at my phone and there is an "X" on the service bars, and the service LED is not flashing. if i soft reset the device, or shut the phone part off and back on, it picks up service again (full bars, as usual). also, i tried plugging my SIM back into my old treo 650, and i dont see this problem. is it related to the 3g network? i haven't made any software changes since yesterday. faulty hardware? really frustrating, help would be appreciated. thanks.
k4ffy said:
i have a cingular 8525 and since yesterday, it keeps dropping my gsm service completely. like i look at my phone and there is an "X" on the service bars, and the service LED is not flashing. if i soft reset the device, or shut the phone part off and back on, it picks up service again (full bars, as usual). also, i tried plugging my SIM back into my old treo 650, and i dont see this problem. is it related to the 3g network? i haven't made any software changes since yesterday. faulty hardware? really frustrating, help would be appreciated. thanks.
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shouldnt be caused by the 3g network, do you have the white 3G sim with the orange flaming 3G on it? This could also very well be hardware or the radio... so many variable with this... i would vote for 3 possible issues, either hardware, radio rom, or sim card.. take your pick.. the sim will be the easiest to try, if you dont have the white 3G then just walk into a cingular store, tell them they sold you the 8525 without the 3G sim and they will replace it for free.. well they did with me anyway
shogunmark said:
shouldnt be caused by the 3g network, do you have the white 3G sim with the orange flaming 3G on it? This could also very well be hardware or the radio... so many variable with this... i would vote for 3 possible issues, either hardware, radio rom, or sim card.. take your pick.. the sim will be the easiest to try, if you dont have the white 3G then just walk into a cingular store, tell them they sold you the 8525 without the 3G sim and they will replace it for free.. well they did with me anyway
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i dont have the flaming 3g on my sim, no. i'll get it replaced, then see what happens. thanks.
k4ffy said:
i dont have the flaming 3g on my sim, no. i'll get it replaced, then see what happens. thanks.
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its a good place to start, i know i had data trouble with the old sim, after i got the one it solved my problems
shogunmark said:
its a good place to start, i know i had data trouble with the old sim, after i got the one it solved my problems
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the only disconcerting thing is that i had the HTC TyTn for a month before i got the 8525, and i never had this problem with it, same sim and everything.
here's a thread about it on the cingular customer forums, people having the same problem with their 8525's
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=24766&jump=true#M24766
k4ffy said:
the only disconcerting thing is that i had the HTC TyTn for a month before i got the 8525, and i never had this problem with it, same sim and everything.
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good point... i can say that i have had signal issues with both 1.16 and 1.20 radio but not to the extent that you are having, and the new sim solved alot of issues for me in the beginning.. Now i dont have any issues when in a GSM area, only seem to have issues in a 3G area
ok got the new SIM Card, but the problem persists. hardware?
I've had the Cingular 8525 for a week and it has one of the newer 64MB SIM cards (same that the Sierra AirCard 860 uses and required for 3G network access). I haven't had any call dropping problems at all. If it persists I'd get a replacement ASAP.
Music Man
got myself a brand new 8525 from my local cingular store at the end of last week, and the problem persists. i also have one of the new flaming 3G SIM cards. the only thing i can think of now is the network in my area. any other thoughts/ideas?
k4ffy said:
got myself a brand new 8525 from my local cingular store at the end of last week, and the problem persists. i also have one of the new flaming 3G SIM cards. the only thing i can think of now is the network in my area. any other thoughts/ideas?
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did you have this problem prior to the 8525? also go to start>settings>system, then tick device information and tell me what radio version you have
shogunmark said:
did you have this problem prior to the 8525? also go to start>settings>system, then tick device information and tell me what radio version you have
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did not have this problem prior to getting the 8525. had a tytn for a few weeks and didn't experience this (although it did have the screen alignment problem which is why i had to get rid of it). i have had the problem with both 8525's. my radio version is 1.16.00.00
Can't add much to the discussion...but I have an SPV M31000 (Orange Tytn Flavor) And ahve the same issue when in an area which switches between UTMS and EDGE. It also appears it will sometimes lock a call.
I can't add too much either. I've got an 8525, and I do experience the issue at my company's current office (thankfully not the one I actually work out of though, as I'm at a client site and rarely at the home office). I find my issue seems to be specifically with being on a fringe area of UMTS/GPRS. GPRS is a much stronger signal that the UMTS, so I see it swapping frequently. Sometimes it drops completely. Weird thing is though that it doesn't happen all the time..
sk0t said:
I can't add too much either. I've got an 8525, and I do experience the issue at my company's current office (thankfully not the one I actually work out of though, as I'm at a client site and rarely at the home office). I find my issue seems to be specifically with being on a fringe area of UMTS/GPRS. GPRS is a much stronger signal that the UMTS, so I see it swapping frequently. Sometimes it drops completely. Weird thing is though that it doesn't happen all the time..
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sounds pretty much like what is happening to me. the annoying part is that it doesn't pick up the signal automatically again once i'm out of that fringe area. if that was the case i could live with it, but i miss calls all the time because of this.
HTC TyTn Cingular 8525 Sim and other issues
I have an HTC TyTn since October 12, 2006, and have had a great deal of problems, but none in Japan while traveling, only in the US. Cingular is constatntly changing and upgrading its services, its servers and its policies. My SIM which worked until 12/26//06 never allowed a SMS message through since then? It seems now to be caused by the fact that I have the old SIM, but was never a problem till Cingular upgraded its towers?
The Phone portion will not work well in the UMTS mode, and the techs say that it is because the towers are not all turned on as yet in my area. If you try and have the Outlook and lets say AOL turned on to download, when the phone is in GPRS mode, your calls are blocked when the AOL goes out to check for mesages. The techs say it is not the same on UMTS. The UMTS uses more battery, but especially if the phone is looking for messages often to other than Outlook. Of course the programs never close, even IE, unless you shut them down manually in settings/system/memory/running programs.

We can Pay by PAYPAL for the following EXPERT Advice

Hi, I offer to pay anyone £50 if they can assist me in resolving the following issue. I have made two similar posts in different areas of the hermes forum but still not solved my problem.
Please see below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1267038#post1267038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1263701#post1263701
You can contact me by email on [email protected] and msn - [email protected]
Time for a few more questions....!!
Hi,
Does your phone display the "U" (or 3G) symbol to denote that 3G coverage is available?? I looked at your website to get your location and plugged it into http://enableoci.orange.co.uk/uk/UKCoverageSearch.htm (I used the town rather than the postcode to get an overall coverage map) - it looks a bit patchy to me (for your work postcode, the local area looks pretty good); I guess it depends on whether you're using the phone at work or when you're out and about?
Do you know what radio version is on your phone; has it been updated with one of the radios and/or ROM's from this site or does it have the standard issue Orange radio? You can find out by going to Start | Settings | System tab | Device information. If the radio version is >= 1.38.x.x then you should be fine (although some people on Orange have reported that radio 1.41.x.x is not as good as 1.40.x.x - opinions vary ).
Do you or any colleagues have another Orange 3G phone that works where yours doesn't?? We need to establish whether the problem is just with your phone or whether it is in fact related to the 3G coverage generally.
Let me know how you get on
Mark.
Hi Mark,
My mission is to get this phone working on Vodafone 3g. I was testing Orange to see if it was a network problem.
I am now at my office and when in phone mode it now displays
UMTS Orange and the 3g signal, calls and browsing are now allowed!!
Here is the device info:
Rom Version 2.11.255.1
ROm Date 03/07/07
Radio 1.38.00.10
Protocol Version 32.71.7020.12H
ExtRom 2.11.255.104
I am just waiting to get a Vodafone 3g Sim Card to test, to see if it was only a matter of location.
Many Thanks
[email protected] for MSN or Email.
Have you tried the radio engineering test application?
I had a similar problem using my Vodafone with an O2 SIM card. I'd installed the O2 settings cab but still the data stuff wouldn't work.
The problem turned out to be that the data connection was still trying to use the Vodafone settings. To resolve this I installed Daniel Herrero's Bandswitch. This allows me to disable connection settings and only leave the settings active for the current SIM.

Terrible connection strength

Since I took advantage of the orange ****-up and moved to O2, i just cant make phone calls from home.
From other places its fine, but at home its awful.
I have tried the O2 sim in another phone and its perfect, so I dont think its the phone masts.
I have spoken to O2 and they tell me the account is provisioned but unavailable to send my HTC the settings as they dont support the phone at all.
Is there anything I can do?
Sometimes it happens, you can always try a different radio. Some radios will improve reception in different areas. As an extra quirk, some can even improve battery life!
Take a look here for more info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Radio
Just a word of caution however, you might want to get your HD Security unlocked first before flashing a new radio.
Can you list what ROM/loader/radio version you're using (I assume that you've unlocked an Orange handset)? Sometimes if you've got mixed up versions, the signal quality will suffer - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557843 for someone with a similar problem after flashing their phone.
Different phones will always show some variation in connectivity; it's just a fact of life - but at most about 30% variation. If your other handset has 5 bars and the HD has one or zero, something is wrong with it. Also, since your handset is unlocked it might help to try a payg SIM from another operator (getting a free SIM is easy, and if you don't make calls it won't cost you to stick it in and look at the signal). We carry one from every operator, just in case we're stuck in a region with bad coverage and need to call someone urgently.
More info
I have tried a few different ROMs but currently using Duttys 6.5 R12 revised rom.
Radio is currently 1.14 but I have tried 1.16 in the past with no improvement.
My handset is unlocked (using the link on this forum).
In the other phone (an old Nokia) its perfect signal, 5 bars, but in the HD it ranges from 4 bars to none and all inbetween, quickly changing all the time too.
I might try and get hold of a PAYG O2 sim and see if thats any different.
c_lee said:
Can you list what ROM/loader/radio version you're using (I assume that you've unlocked an Orange handset)? Sometimes if you've got mixed up versions, the signal quality will suffer - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557843 for someone with a similar problem after flashing their phone.
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Read through that and my bootloader screen is fine and shows SPL 1.56 Olinex security unlocked.
So I dont think thats the problem.
I have the same problem!
Got the HD yesterday, and reception goes from 0 to 4 bars all the time. When sim is in my other pdas it fine. I have an unlocked HD on o2.
My bootloader screen shows SPL-1.54.0000
Tried an orange sim and got 4 bars
Telephone connectin strength
I have the same problem.
At home impossible to call. On the road connection is regularly lost (when moving from one ground station to the next I suspect). This feels like the coverage problems in de mid 90s.
ROM 1.56.404.1
Radio 1.13.25.24
Provider Proximus
New sim did not help
onverbe said:
I have the same problem.
At home impossible to call. On the road connection is regularly lost (when moving from one ground station to the next I suspect). This feels like the coverage problems in de mid 90s.
ROM 1.56.404.1
Radio 1.13.25.24
Provider Proximus
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19/10 I asked for a new sim card from my provider but that has made no difference.

HTC P3450 Network Connection Problem

I am having a problem with my HTC Touch P3450 phone for the past 2 weeks. Although the GSM signal looks good, I am not able to make/receive calls. I am on "Phone" mode (not Flight Mode or similar). Everything else (WiFi, programs etc.) works fine.
My operator is Turkcell and I live in Istanbul, Turkey. The phone was purchased from the United States.
I have done a ROM update to ROM version 1.17.707.2B WWE but the problem still exists.
Has anyone else experienced this kind of problem? I suspect that this issue has something to do with the 3G upgrading process going on in Turkey.
Can you try to use your friend's sim card and see whether it works.
Is it something like a dropped call?
I tried two different SIM cards, one with my operator and one with another operator. I am still having the same problem.
The problem is that I cannot make any calls at all, rather than dropped calls.
Also I cannot take any calls, when I call myself from another phone it goes to voice mail as if the phone is turned off.
I guess it is a hardware problem then.
turbulence2009 said:
I tried two different SIM cards, one with my operator and one with another operator. I am still having the same problem.
The problem is that I cannot make any calls at all, rather than dropped calls.
Also I cannot take any calls, when I call myself from another phone it goes to voice mail as if the phone is turned off.
I guess it is a hardware problem then.
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I think its time to change your phone's radio. go to the elf-upgrading section to find out more.
I have the same problem
Hi, i have the same problem. When I make a soft-reset on my Elfin it has signal, but just 3 or more minutes after i cloud not make any calls and if someone try to call me they receive the message that my cellphone is off. Rigth now i am performing a radio upgrade and i will let you know if this is the solution for the problem, if you are done with this please let me know how to solve this.
Hi I have the same problem with this phone, can some one of you tell me witch is Radio ROM is the best for HTC ELF.
Thank you guys
I think that this is a common problem on Htc Touch, cause i have exactly the same problem.
I have this problem too
I upgraded new radio 3.34.90 but the problem still make me angry
Call ended itself, i tried 3 4 sims from 3 4 operator
Same problem.
i have same problem sometimes network gone automatically but signal shows full but after reset it starts perfect. thn after somtime same prob?
is thr any solution?
same problem here (P-3452 Elfin)
bsnl sim not working
Hello there.....
I am from Bangalore,India. i was using BSNL SIM for 2years. suddenly one day the Sim was dead. i thought sim problem so replaced 2 times after that got AIRTEL Sim. now its working fine. the problem is with 2 or 3 carrier operators. STRANGE!!!!!!!!
i have this problem too nobody to help pelease
tanx
please some one help me.....
I have been investigating this issue on and off for a few months now on one of my elf’s. I originally bought this phone off eBay to test stuff, and found no signal was being received when I got it. The auction did say this so fine. Checkmend says it is not blocked in any country, and is not stolen etc. Therefore, it is definitely something on the phone opposed to networks.
The phone can pick up signal, it noes networks exists, and can identify them, however, when registered and "connected" it does not pick up messages, and when I try to make a phone call the signal completely drops.
I like others have tried many roms. I have even tried every signal radio. I have also tried 6 different working Sims across a number of operators.
Basically, I think this issue is hardware, I mean, there really isn't anything else that I can think off. I have done some reading, and I *think* it may be down to the PA chips. There are 2 off these in the phone, one for Radio signal, and the other for Bluetooth, and wifi. (I think that is it).
These are located just above the battery on the back of the circuit board from what I can see, protected by 2 parts. One removable (two top screws - also contains the speaker) and one fixed into the middle part of the body.
I've done some playing, and it seems may be easy to break, either by dropping the phone, or even possibly by something as little as keeping the phone in a pocket and sitting on it.
I am not sure where I can go from here. I may need to investigate this further, but it is looking like it is going to be a dead end, considering I am not able to BGA solder to replace it, and expect the cost in doing so outweighs buying a new phone. I'm going to look into signal amplifiers, and see if I can find one that’s not just a piece of tin foil, and actually works. It will be interesting to see if that will improve the signal far enough for the phone to be usable once again. I may even just try with some kitchen foil, or by plugging in an external aerial (which I do not have yet, and may be costly, and therefore no point). If the external aerial works, I guess the chip could only be damaged, and not able to get enough strength itself.
This is only a theory on what I think is wrong with my Phone, and may be different to what everyone else’s is. But i thought I should put it out, to see if anyone else is able to confirm/kill my idea. It is a theory after all, they are made to be proven!
If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to pitch them, I like hearing what others are thinking, and it may be possible, although I admit very unlikely, that we could find a resolution to this issue!
Stu
@ashkan62 , can you provide a detailed problem please, this may give me something more to look at that I have missed.
wow. that's really informative. I've done upgrading radio roms too and even the spl. but nothing happened. hope your investigation on this works. thanks for the info.
or how about upgrading the o.s.? did someone tried that? coz I'm planning to upgrade my elf wm6.1 to wm6.5 and onyx 4 to onyx 6. would that work? what do you think?
cnergy_14 said:
or how about upgrading the o.s.? did someone tried that? coz I'm planning to upgrade my elf wm6.1 to wm6.5 and onyx 4 to onyx 6. would that work? what do you think?
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I think it can't harm to try, be sure to follow the right procedure.
Yeah. I'll try to do the upgrade this week. I'll inform you if anything happens. (like bricking my phone. )

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