I used to have a blue angel with WM2k3. it used to have an app called xbackup which used to back up every change on your device post-vendor image to your SD card which could be restored in the event of a hard reset.
As the hermes doesn't have a backup battery (which is driving me nuts topping up the battery at any opportunity) is there an equivalent to the xbackup app that used to be provided with WM2k3 that can be used with WM5/hermes???
hope so. i'm getting trying to get ready for the inevitable day when i run out of juice and lose all my data!!
As far as I know, hermes uses WM5 which runs entirely from non-volitile flash memory which means that you can pull the battery and you won't loose your data.
With that said, there are apps out there, SPB Backup is one, that will allow you to make a full backup onto the SD Card.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=21046
SpB Backup
Make sure you use SpB backup - Sprite Backup crashed my device more than once (and I was using that product for over 4 years & 5 versions...)
And yes, the data on the device will stay even after a full battery drain ...
Applestar said:
Make sure you use SpB backup - Sprite Backup crashed my device more than once (and I was using that product for over 4 years & 5 versions...)
And yes, the data on the device will stay even after a full battery drain ...
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was thinking of buying sprite backup... so it crashes your OS?
I bought SPB and it works perfect. and I can verify that after my battery drained over night I simply pluged my TYTN and charged the battery. All data and programs were there.
Sprite Backup
I have no problem with Sprite Backup, I use it on my Qtek S100, Qtek 8550 and on my HTC TyTN. I run a scheduled backup every night, leaving three days of backups on my SD card.
I do not use the PC-agent - which would allow to backup the device to a PC folder while Activesync is active.
Please DO FOLLOW my articles here in the General forum. In my Backup Bible, I present a FULL overview of all these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037
Backup issues...
Well, as we all know the Outlook data in a WM5 device is written to the file "pim.vol". Since this file will be in use all time it does make it difficult to backup this file.
So every backup application has to do some trick about it. Sprite Backup 5 does it quite simple: It just copies your file from "pim.vol" to "pim.volc" (it basically does this with every .vol file). The big issue about it: It will copy your file IN RAM.
So in my case it was easy math: My 16MB pim.vol file (6500 appointments, 800 contacts) was copied to RAM. Well, especially when I did not have a lot of RAM free (e.g. running some more applications) this would cause severe crashes. And it even left orphaned ".volc" files on my device. In RAM. More than 17MB!
---> Conclusion: If you experienced crashes with Sprite Backup: Make sure you delete all ".volc" files on your root folder (RAM). If you ever used Sprite Backup: Check!
Sprite is aware of this issue and was trying to fix it with a new beta. But I did not want to end up beta-testing their reliability. This is supposed to be rock-solid since it is a backup utility!
Read more at: http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1939&sid=d724e792e138ea4400a1fc114fd20bd2
---> 2nd conclusion: Use SpB Backup. I do not know about their backup procedure. But it works. And I am certainly not affiliated with SpB If a SpB employee reading this: I would really like an explanation on this one.
Regards,
Apple*
thank you all for your helpful replies. i feel somewhat re-assured to know my data is a bit safer.
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Dear My Friends,
Usually it takes from me along time to re-setup my Imate Jam - after a Hard reset, And i belive many other friends are facing the same issue.
So, Please advise us if there is any kind of software, Something similat to "Ghost" we usually use at our PCs (to back-up and restore) the system setup?
Thanks for your ususal support.
Try Sprite Backup.
And sprite clone!
V
I think you can try spb clone , it is much better than the others in my opinion. You can also use it to restore the image to the other i-mate with the same model.
I think it's always advisable with any PC or PPC to setup your device, and then take a backup of your "clean state" and save it away somewhere (ie on yoru pc). Then take additional regular backups every so often (I program and potentially screw my PPC up quite a lot, so I take backups say every 2 days).
I use Sprite Backup and make a self-executing backup of Local+Storage onto a 1gb sd card. I save that on the PC every so often. that way, in case of even a hard reset, you can be up and running in say 3 minutes.
V
@Mvmajorem : I've downloaded a trial version from Sprite Backup, it looks great. THANKS ALOT.
@ vijay555 & @ grease : Thanks for your advise, But i'm afraid this spb clone is a bit expensive about 300$ !!!
I Think I will stick to Sprite Backup.
Anyhow, highly appreciating your efforts and advise.
Truly yours,
YA
final release version of SPB backup for WM5 is now available to download at SPBsoftwarehouse.com
Free trail gives full functionality of software for 5 runs.
Tried it on my Mini S and it worked a treat.
Full backup to my storage card then restore from a singe executable or back up individual items (data/databases/settings etc..)
$20 for the full version which is pretty good value IMO
Interesting... I wonder how it stacks up against Sunnysoft's and Sprite's.
Is there any comparison review out there?
Also.. does this do a full backup, or just a backup of everything it can normally access? (e.g. registry, POOM, basic settings, data files - but not any of the files you can't normally copy)
From all the reviews I have read, the new WM5 versions of Sprite and spb backup are fine apps.
The difference for me is the sprite allows you to selectively restore files right on the device. Spb does not allow that, basically all or nothing. This is important when and if certain files get corruputed or changed. To do this using spb, you have to extract the files on a pc then copy them to the ppc.
Other than that, both programs will backup and restore your wm5 device.
Here's a comprehensive review of backup solutions for WM5.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1
Nice overview - though I think it's somewhat funny that they say "and there're only two reliable backup solutions: Sprite Backup 5 and Spb Backup 1.0" - so does that mean that Sunnysoft's (http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51) is -un-reliable?
Actually, after some reading, the author does seem to think so - based on his experiences with it on a wizard (a Dell Axim x50 guy reported quite the opposite)... so, SPB Backup it is...
Actually, with SpB, you can select which files to backup or restore. You can also view them on your pc. It works as advertised, which is very well.
There's a good review over on Pocket PC Dubai.
Anybody that has purchased ANY OTHER SPB Software House package (SPB Pocket Plus, SPB Weather etc) can get a discount code which brings the price down to $15.96 which is around 1/2 the price of Sprite
See the rewards / discount section of the website http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/support/productdiscount.php?en
Cheers
Chris
itsmewhoelse said:
Actually, with SpB, you can select which files to backup or restore. You can also view them on your pc. It works as advertised, which is very well.
There's a good review over on Pocket PC Dubai.
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But you can't restore 1 or more specific files away from your PC. The only way to restore when you are away from your PC is an all-or-nothing scenario.
I can recall many times in which I did not want to restore my whole PPC and only wanted one or more specific files.
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Nice overview - though I think it's somewhat funny that they say "and there're only two reliable backup solutions: Sprite Backup 5 and Spb Backup 1.0" - so does that mean that Sunnysoft's (http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51) is -un-reliable?
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Yup, it can't backup/restore WinCE databases (for example, PIM stuff, SMS messages etc) reliably. Other than that (backing up the file system/registry), it's OK. But why go for a partially working solution when Spb/Sprite Backup do what they are intended to?
Actually, after some reading, the author does seem to think so - based on his experiences with it on a wizard (a Dell Axim x50 guy reported quite the opposite)
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Was it a WM5 x50 or just a WM2003SE one? No backup program has problems with the latter. WM5, on the other hand, is an entirely different animal and just can't be backed up/restored with pre-WM5 algorithms.
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Actually, with SpB, you can select which files to backup or restore.
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Not with restore - only with backup.
also with restore
you can chose what files to restore by chosing option for my documents and system data when you restore your data
Ya' know, to me, the most important reason for backing up is data, settings, and configuration retrieval in the event of a catastrophic event.
The first thing I did with SpB is a backup my wizard, a hard reset, then a full restore.
My wizard was returned to exactly the same state as it was before the hard reset. No other backup app I tried did that. So I bought it.
Of course, I lean towards SpB products because they have always responded to my emails, offered advice, and listened and asked questions when I have a suggestion. So, if there are 2 or more products that work equally well, I'm gonna choose SpB every time. Their customer service is world class.
Just my .02
I want to transfer all information from one Mogul to another Mogul. I hear people having issues when using SBP Backup then restoring (same rom and etc, just to a different phone) this claims it can clone original phone and go from there. Do you think this is valid, I have seen numerous people say you cannot clone one phone to another to due certain settings. Though I am going from the same rom to and from both phones.
link:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
well the entire idea behind spb clone is to clone one image to multiple handsets, as long as the device and rom are the same on both i dont see why it would be a problem
Thanks figured as much, I will try it and let everyone know the results.
Worked great!!
Well for $299.00 I would hope it would clone in entirety; meaning rom, radio, programs, files, etc from one device to another (providing the devices are the same of course)...
But you can "clone" everything from one device to another of the same make/model/base rom & radio using SKTools. SKTools will backup the ENTIRE system and restore it exactly as before to the same/different device providing you have the following:
1. Same hardware architecture
2. Same rom/radio format
3. You have to install SKTools first and only to copy and restore backup
SPB Clone seems well suited for buisness use for rapid deployment of company data devices and problem solving...
Hey all,
Emailing to ask the community's advice and wisdom here.
Background:
I'm ordering an HTC diamond (new contract time). Problem is I install a LOT of programs (about 30/40 medical textbooks, dozens of apps, games, tomtom, loads of custom maps/POIs, multimedia programs, internet browsers, flashcard programs, etc) and setting up a new device takes me litterally months on the time I have available.
Question:
So, I'm wondering if there's a solution I can use which will allow me to copy the files over to my HTC diamond and the appropriate reg entries so that the programs don't all need re-installed.
Then I thought about SBP backup. I've heard it can be used to restore all programs after upgrading to custom ROMs including different WM versions....so can I create a full backup file (they're self launching) copy it to my HTC diamond and run it?
Will I brick my diamond? Is there any way to do this? Or have I got to go through the long long procedure of setting everything up again? (I know I can backup and restore PIM thankfully!)
Thanks again all!
MrVarioII
SPB backup, to restore the apps, also restores the registry. I don't know for sure but I wouldn't chance bricking my BRAND NEW toy on something that I'm not sure of. All the memory and ram is a different size on the Diamond and could be set up differently to the way the Hermes is.
Essentially you have to ask yourself, do you feel lucky...... Well, Do ya?
you won't brick
running the wrong backup will not brick your device under any circumstances. It might not run properly and you will have to do a hard reset, but it will not brick your device.
I have used sprite backup to restore a backed up device on a difference rom and device before.
The first thing I would suggest is to restore the device without restoring the registry.
the only things you should need to reenter are passwords etc for the programs
The programs will need the reg entries surely?
And going back through that number of programs to re-enter the keys is a daunting task.
Other thing I'm thinking is that perhaps there are some custom drivers in the diamond I wouldn't want to overwrite?
Perhaps doing this would sacrafice eGPS or something?
The other potential source of problems is that many programs are installed on my hermes micro SD card.....Is a restore of that data to the diamond even possible? Does the diamond even have an SD slot? (seem to remember it's got 4GB internal memory and no SD slot)...Could be wrong...
All ideas/suggestions welcome
Its better that.....
You need to found new VGA version for app, cause many apps dont supports VGA and the hermes is QVGA, maybe it shows too little or not shown troubles... BTW I recomend you to use the WM5torage and make a backup of your PERSONAL data only, of course on your desktop PC or laptop, apps have VGA and QVGA on most devices and this is the most important incompatibilittie (hahahah i dont know how to said that!!!! sorry)
About wiki and specs about the diamond.... search on wiki men! ask there.... first of all.... search!!! and learn!!! Oh and your thread name is wrong you type SBP Backup jajajaja is SPB!! LOL
The Diamond doesn't have an sd card slot so its a moot point....
I remember seeing a thread about this, but the search function doesn't seem to come up with it. My old Tilt came with a backup program, I have yet to find one on my Tilt-2... Is there one? Is there a recommendation?
Thanks
What do you want to back up?
I find a combination of PIM Backup, Microsoft MyPhone, and my exchange server to be sufficient for my needs.
I'd like to back up everything.... since there are so many programs and utilities installed (generic programs and fixes from XDA-Developers).
I bought Sprite Backup for two phones ago and the previous one came with Sprite... which is very good software. I should probably see if I can transfer my old license, if there aren't other ideas.
ohyeahar said:
What do you want to back up?
I find a combination of PIM Backup, Microsoft MyPhone, and my exchange server to be sufficient for my needs.
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You definetly have to try SPB backup, you have a free 5 uses test if you download trial, and it let's you choose what you want to backup (only PIM, all settings, registry as well)
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/backup/
Anyone have a comparison of the CURRENT version of Sprite vs SPB Backup? I used Sprite for years... although I now have 3 SPB utilities installed, so I know that they do good work.
MyPhone is a pretty good backup program. Free from Microsoft. It's nice, because most 6.5 ROMs you find on here would have it built in.
It's definitely saved my butt a couple times when I had to hard reset.
Does MyPhone back up all programs and registry settings?
It doesn't mention it on the website.
m4xx0rz said:
MyPhone is a pretty good backup program. Free from Microsoft. It's nice, because most 6.5 ROMs you find on here would have it built in.
It's definitely saved my butt a couple times when I had to hard reset.
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Does SPB Backup's scheduled backups keep on saving new files, or is there a way of limiting how many backup files are saved so that it doesn't fill up the SD card? Sprite Backup can do that.
dzr said:
Does MyPhone back up all programs and registry settings?
It doesn't mention it on the website.
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dzr said:
Does SPB Backup's scheduled backups keep on saving new files, or is there a way of limiting how many backup files are saved so that it doesn't fill up the SD card? Sprite Backup can do that.
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SPB's scheduled backup also has an option to set the maximum number of backups to keep.
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Does MyPhone back up all programs and registry settings?
It doesn't mention it on the website.
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No, sadly it does not. It's more than just PIM. But less than full backup.
I'm sure there is a way you could do it... I just don't know how.
Whenever I install a new program, I just make a txt file on my desktop with what I have installed so far, and then put the cab in a folder with it.
It's my emergency hard reset and or rom flash kit...