Just noticed that my herm300 came with a herm160 1300mah battery. Is this typical as I note it should be the 161 battery. It also seemed to be fully charged and unwrapped in the box, I have a feeling this could be a used battery.
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Just noticed that my herm300 came with a herm160 1300mah battery. Is this typical as I note it should be the 161 battery. It also seemed to be fully charged and unwrapped in the box, I have a feeling this could be a used battery.
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There is a post or perhaps on the wiki somewhere, details about the two different batteries. Just from memory I think it depends on the particular Hermes model you have.
I think it's quite normal for battery to be charged on receipt, certainly mine was - though I can't remember if it was wrapped or not.
Mike
just got 2 delivered today and they were both charged, but wrapped.
Were they HERM160 parts? I wonder why they changed to the 161 part, I guess they may have two suppliers and put whatever is available into the box.
There's a thread on this over on the Cingular Forum.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...essage.id=25601&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Looks like the 1300mAh battery is getting more poitive ratings.
whats the difference between a herm200 and a herm300? version? mine is brand new today and in device information it says it's a herm200?
bit off topic, sorry
It's just cosmetic really, the 100, 200 and 300 are the various operator customizations. Apparently the HERM300 should come with a 1350mAh battery but looking around it just seems to be pot luck which battery you get.
My Hermes is a model 200 Spanish and comes with a 1300mAh battery manufactured by Sanyo. It usually runs for a day... but I use the machine a lot during the day.
I'm not dissapointed.
My 2 weeks old herm300 came with a H160 - 1300mAh battery made by Sanyo. Bought it from Polish ERA operator as MDA Vario II. No batt problems so far, after initial discharge/charge cycle working times are 3-4 days of not so heavy daily use: short 3G and WiFi sessions, +/- 20mins of phone calls, 2-5 SMSs and usual calendar and tasks activity.
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Anyone have any idea how good this extended battery is for the Tilt?
HTC Li-ion Extended Capacity Battery with Black Extended Battery Door
Product Details:
HTC Li-ion Extended Capacity Battery with Black Extended Battery Door:
The aftermarket AT&T Tilt li-ion battery includes a black extended battery door. This AT&T Tilt Battery requires two to three complete charge cycles to reach full performance and is rated at 2400 mAh. The AT&T Tilt Extended battery is the perfect extra or AT&T Tilt replacement battery.
Compatible with: HTC 8925 / AT&T Tilt / TyTN II / HTC Kaiser
Is this one good or does it have issues like the others that have been mentioned with the power readings?
Just curious cause could really use an extended battery and would like a reliable one, if there is any.
Thanks,
Flandrel
Tilt Extended Battery?
I have heard some mixed stories about some of the extended batteries from actualy users.
First looking at the 2800 size battery:
http://www.amazon.com/AT-Tilt-Elect...=wl_it_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
"This larger battery lasts about 1.5x longer, so around 15 hours (or more, I haven't let it drain completely, yet). This wasn't a huge increase, but it does let me use the phone for roughly a full work day. My usage includes push e-mail during the day, with numerous incoming and outgoing text messages, and maybe 30 minutes of talk time.
Charge time is excellent in my opinion, it took around two hours to charge the battery from 20% to 100%. "
Next I was looking at the 3200 size battery but couldn't understand why the price on these were so much higher than the 2800 for the little extra run time that you are getting.
http://www.amazon.com/Mugen-3000mAh...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
"PROS:
- the battery fits in the phone perfect
- the new back cover given is high quality, fits nicely, and looks great
- the new battery and back cover combo makes the phone thicker, obviously, but it is not over-bearing and easily noticable to others
CONS:
- just one, but it is a big one. so, the original battery is 1350mAh, right? well, that wasn't getting it done at all. we're talking 8-10 hours a charge with minimal phone calls. i do have exhange push email and another pop email that i am checking. that is most of the battery drain i imagine. fine, so i saw this and thought, "perfect, 3000mAh! this should get me a whole lot more time". well, as i finding out, not really. to be fair, i am getting more time. i would say 12, maybe 14 hours. a net gained of 4 hours. that seems strange to me for a battery that is 2.5 times as big. anyway, just want to give you a heads up so there isn't too much disappointment. PS - i did the whole "battery training" thing where i charge it all the way up, ran it all the way down....etc. 4 days in a row. "
So hope that helps...
I just hope this with an emergency charger, http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charg...UTF8&coliid=IR8PJ5939FJ0L&colid=3UMYZBAJT4AYL
helps me get a full day with my unit...If this doesn't help I might consider the Iphone because I hear that is getting a full day of juice with one charged regular battery.
i was useing a 2400ma extended battery it worked good other than the door would catch on the part where the extended battery was sticking out pop the door off knock the battery out and turn off my phone. it was such a pain in the butt that i decided that i would rather charge my phone everyday than look in my holster to find my phone had been turned off for who knows how long. i was thinking about getting this battery though next time i feel like i have money to blow. http://www.amazon.com/1600mAh-Exten...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226420513&sr=8-1
I bought the 2800 Mah battery. And it came with a ugly back door so i order the nice door that looks similar to the orignial cover. Well the 2800 works better and last longer. it mite last longer n better if you have a custom firmware. cuz im running the 6.1 n i heard the battery dies fast from it. But with the extended battery my phone dosent die fast.
Hello, i just want to give a testimony about my new Uni battery.
3 days ago I am buy a new battery for my TM MDA Pro. I buy this because I want to replace the 2-years old the original battery with brand new battery. Because the original battery is "damaged", the device blacks off when reach 38%, or 50% using UMTS radio, 80% using camera, 75% when using data connection. I am trying the troubleshooting rules posted by users on this forum but no effects.
Purchasing on the phone store, ask to the seller and they say they not have the Original battery, so the seller give me the second-quality one. I am comparing the original battery and the one which i will purchase. Different manufacture only. The original made in taiwan and the purchase one is made from China. Both from Dynapack.
after this all , i try it at my home. The new battery already filled but at 15%. Hey, if i am using the old battery one, i think the device cannot turn on. But with this new battery, it can switch on without turn off backlight or radio at startup. COOL!
And then I go to charge it until 100%. The battery is drained .. hmm little a bit quicker than the old battery, but It is very powerful, i still can use camera altough the battery at 50% ! Also i can use data connection when the battery at 15%.
So I think, buy a new battery is a solution if you have problems with the device that blacks off at XX%.
I just have this battery for 3 days, I will continuing testing this battery.
Note : sorry for my bad english
iam cheated........
even i was having battery problems die at xx%,i bought a made in china battery from a local shop.the time i inserted it battery was 45% left......but the battery backup was horribly low,in 15 mins my battery got to 15%....nd in next 10 mins it was fully drained......even if i havnt used any battery sucking apps,it was just in normal sleep mode,still it got drained,the original corrupted battery giving satisfactory backup despite of the turnoff issues....,i think iam cheated from that vendor......coz i bought it for a high price of 25$.and this f****ing performance is hurting me a lot......plz guide me guys what should i do.........
Sorry, there is something I forget to report, but mayur9890 has been remind me.
After initial charge until 100%, I carry it to my office. When on the road it still 100%. But after I reach office, it goes 69% ??? So quick??!!
But i have try to continue use them. But the device still working although the battery remaining is just 12%.
So I think I just have the "same" quality battery. Maybe the lost 31% on the new battery is same as 38% the old battery as that turned off. Hahaha...
mayur9890, the battery you buy is so expensive. I just buy around $15. With note my country is Indonesia.
Are the battery what do you buy is little same with the original battery? My old and new battery does not have significant differences. Just the manufacturer country. My new battery is from China also. From Dynapack.
I suggest you to buy that battery.
Thanks.
I have just got a new battery from HongKong for my HD.
It is 1500 mAh and they claim 50-80% longer use after 2 or 3 charge cycles.
it is an X level High Capacity made by Momax, a very large company making batteries for many companies. Comes in full retail blister pack and is specific for the HD. I have used a normal Momax before but not the X Level, will report after a few days use.
Cost me USD $20 from Ebay about £13. ordered on 21st December and arrived today. Ebay seller is eshopmomax. their web site is www.shop.momax.net, included was a discount voucher for HKD $17 off my next purchase before Dec 2009..
oooh, sounds nice! Will eagerly look forward to your next post on this.
I wonder how much they pay for advertisement on this forums
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I have just got a new battery from HongKong for my HD.
It is 1500 mAh and they claim 50-80% longer use after 2 or 3 charge cycles.
it is an X level High Capacity made by Momax, a very large company making batteries for many companies. Comes in full retail blister pack and is specific for the HD. I have used a normal Momax before but not the X Level, will report after a few days use.
Cost me USD $20 from Ebay about £13. ordered on 21st December and arrived today. Ebay seller is eshopmomax. their web site is www.shop.momax.net, included was a discount voucher for HKD $17 off my next purchase before Dec 2009..
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Sorry but you will not get anywhere neat 50% improvement.At most you will get about 12% improvement going from 1350 to 1500. Claiming that the capacity will increase from 1500 to over 2000mah in several charges is very odd. Why not advertise it as a 2000mah battery - simply because it cant.
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I assumed this was a forum to share information with others. I only wrote what I thought would be of interest. If I have this wrong, my apologies, I will not bother in the future and no I am not paid by them. I just quoted information from their advert.
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I assumed this was a forum to share information with others. I only wrote what I thought would be of interest. If I have this wrong, my apologies, I will not bother in the future and no I am not paid by them. I just quoted information from their advert.
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You don't need to apologize, friend. Keep telling us about your experience with this battery. I'm interested.
Thank you for your information. Dont bother with some people who made perhaps bad experience.
Really interesting site, interesting stuff and amazing shipping costs.
I'm insterrested too to know if there is really a difference. I'm a very big user of the PDA and my battery is empty in 10 hours
Yep,
Here too. I have to re-charge every evening/night.
Momax just got a new customer...
I'm interested too in knowing the performance of the high capacity battery after say 1 month. I ordered an after market one before but it became useless quite quickly. So this time, I ordered two original battery manufactured by HTC. I have the spare with me so that I need not stinge in the usage.
Interested as well... because after a month somehow my normal battery lasts somewhat more than half a day, even with medium-low phone usage (no Bt, wifi or data)
So, if this is the standard of the proper HTC battery, i'm more than interested maybe in a better quality and even aftermarket higher capacity battery.
Keep us posted on your experience (shipping, battery life etc...)
Update: Just ordered a battery, charger and silicon case for <40 Euro inc. shipping... might as well try myself
Every night?????
It sounds me terrific.
Me, in your shoes, should review my connection settings. Possibly, someone is connecting unceasingly and draining your battery.
Three days ago, I travel Pamplona to Malaga (near 1000 Km.), using GPS, phone, mp3, ebook reading, data connecting...
Yesterday I have returned, and, yes, I must to re-charging (7 %). Two complete days of intense use.
Think deeply who's eating your power, mate.
Regards.
Nacho Garcia.
I too seem to be able to get two days of intense usage before battery runs out. HD really surprised me with its incredibly long battery life. I might not have bought the extra battery had I known that the battery is that good. However, with the extra battery, I start forming the habbit of letting it run to warning level before charging in order to prolong its life, and I carry the spare when I see that the remaining level is getting low.
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I too seem to be able to get two days of intense usage before battery runs out. HD really surprised me with its incredibly long battery life. I might not have bought the extra battery had I known that the battery is that good. However, with the extra battery, I start forming the habbit of letting it run to warning level before charging in order to prolong its life, and I carry the spare when I see that the remaining level is getting low.
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With my standard battery I would take it off charge and with moderate use (2 or 3 calls and check emails every hour by the time I got home after 8 hours battery was on about 20-25% so had to charge every night. Put in the new battery about 10am Yesterday, again low/moderate use when I went to bed at 11pm it was on 30%. By the time I got up this morning it was flat. Dont know what is draining the power.....
just bought one from momax yesterday and paid via paypal, it´s already on the way, I´ve been mailed a tracking number. Very quick service
Among others, both wifi and dataconnections will sap power, but you might just have a bad battery. Using the tweaks found on this forum (read the wiki) there's an option to release the dataconnection if unused (just like the standard wifi option) which might help. Perhaps you could buy one of these high capacity ones seeing as they're not expensive (otherwise you wouldn't have the HD ) and see if it makes a difference?
I live in HK and I bought mine Momex weeks ago, however, it's slightly bigger than the original and the battery cover was popped out a little bit around the volume button..didn't use that thereafter.... just thinking to buy a spare original one when it comes out in HK.
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I live in HK and I bought mine Momex weeks ago, however, it's slightly bigger than the original and the battery cover was popped out a little bit around the volume button..
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Say WHAT!? Did anyone else get that too?
Well I ordered an eBay $15 extended battery + cover.
So far, it's amazing in comparison. I am pretty sure that both of my factory batteries were completely shot!
This is only the 1800mah li-ion version, but its run for 12 hours now and I still have 100% battery. That's with a little websurfing use and a handful of text messages.
Had it been one of my old batteries, it'd be down to 30-40% by now.
It does make the phone alot thicker, which kinda sucks...but I think its kinda worth it.
thats odd im fine with the standard battery. I updated my mogul to verizon's wm6.1 rom and by the end of the day i had 80% battery left. Plenty for me.
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thats odd im fine with the standard battery. I updated my mogul to verizon's wm6.1 rom and by the end of the day i had 80% battery left. Plenty for me.
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Well, I bought the batteries and the phone used, so who knows what the history was on them. And I don't think they were li-ion's so they probably were never properly charged/discharged.
As of 1:21 today, the phone is at 90% battery life. That's around 13 hours of use so far.
How does the battery behaves when compared with HTC HD and the original Diamond?
I found a good review article of the diamond2
"In terms of battery life the Diamond2 promises nearly double the amount of standby time over its predecessor. From my time using the Diamond2, starting with a full charge and with frequent use (web browsing/ music/ camera/ the excellent bubble burst game!), the next time the phone needed charging was five days later and even then this was more of a top up rather than the battery running on empty."
(http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-diamond2-review.html)
i cant quite beleive a 5 day battery life on this phone! if it is true then it will be awesome but it has a smaller battery 1100 mah against 1350 in my phone currently which i get about 1.5 days out of it.
So i will be reserved, and slightly pessimistic
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i cant quite beleive a 5 day battery life on this phone! if it is true then it will be awesome but it has a smaller battery 1100 mah against 1350 in my phone currently which i get about 1.5 days out of it.
So i will be reserved, and slightly pessimistic
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I would expect it to perform like your current phone (the HD, right?). smaller battery but smaller screen, so it should be about the same, and the htc provided data seems to be in line with that (about the same stand by, talk time and video talk time...)
So I think u are right to be pessimistic, but I also think that a higher capacity battery is possible with the same size as the 1100 mAh one: This TD2 battery is large, compared to the TD1 one: about 2 times as large, and TD1 was 900 mAh. Except if they are not of the same thickness, TD2 battery should have a higher capacity than just 1100 mAh...
I found nice shots comparing internals of TD1 and TD2, where we can see the 2 batteries
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=7317
I do not know how TD2 battery compare size-wise to the HD, maybe you could post some pics of your battery? side by side shots of TD2, TD1 and HD batteries would be very nice, especial it we also have thickness shots anyone having acces to the 3 care to post those?
gkai, no i dont have an hd, i wish i had one. I only have a polaris which is why i cannot understand the 5 day battery life as if my current phone does not last that long. I think that something that is more powerful, bigger screen and a smaller battery will last as long, i just dont, and also mine is stated to have a 400 hr standby time and the td2 only has 360 hours.
So i will still be pessimistic and say that they had some wonderous phone to get it to last for 5 days! (or didnt touch it for about 3 days!)
also the physical size of the battery does not actually matter the rating of the battery is what matters and that is smaller therefore a smaller battery. The td1 i think was always said to have a really bad battery life so hopefully htc have heard this and made the td2 better with a longer battery life, we can all live in hope
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gkai, no i dont have an hd, i wish i had one. I only have a polaris which is why i cannot understand the 5 day battery life as if my current phone does not last that long. I think that something that is more powerful, bigger screen and a smaller battery will last as long, i just dont, and also mine is stated to have a 400 hr standby time and the td2 only has 360 hours.
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hum, then it is possible: faster processor does not mean that it will drain battery faster: new generation are etched finer and use less power for same or more processing power. Screen can be (slightly) more efficient, and power saving of the different radio can be better too. But I expect the phone to be good for 1.5/2.5 days of typical usage, no more, given the current behavior of the HD, touch pro and touch diamond (which have almost exactly the same internal components)
So i will still be pessimistic and say that they had some wonderous phone to get it to last for 5 days! (or didnt touch it for about 3 days!)
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The second is more likely, I doubt htc has changed the battery for the review (although it is possible). Good cell coverage is also good for battery life, if u have a cell tower nearby your phone will get better standby and communication time, same for wifi. I guess they both were in ideal condition and used the phone lightly...
also the physical size of the battery does not actually matter the rating of the battery is what matters and that is smaller therefore a smaller battery. The td1 i think was always said to have a really bad battery life so hopefully htc have heard this and made the td2 better with a longer battery life, we can all live in hope
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hum, yes, it is the rating that count...but given that all good batteries use the same technology (lithium-polymer), mAh rating should be in direct relation with physical size: a large battery with small rating just means that your battery is of an older generation (unlikely), or that there is a lot of dead material (plastic packaging) in your battery. So either the TD2 battery is much thinner than TD1, or it is likely that higher capacity batteries with the same physical size will surface quite soon on the accessory market (I hope for the second case, battery life under normal usage is one of the most important factor for me, it is convenient to have more than 1 day of "heavy" use per charge, and less than one day under "normal" use means the phone is poor for me, whatever its other qualities...)
Bettery Life!
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
how to say i think that htc have finally sorted out battery problems and have made a phone with a good battery life. Seems like ive been told!
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Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
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Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?
Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
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58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
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My standby time always more or less equals the device usage time, so 50/50. I keep playing with it all day At the end of the day it's at app. 50% charge.
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Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?
Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
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O have 3g on all day, as well as Exchange push mail, however i only get about 15 mails a day.
Screen is set to auto brightness. I have to admit i hate this rom, so am using it as a secondary device at the mo..
had it's first charge last night. Unplugged it at 7:30....now almost 11am.
it says
standby
2 hours 38 mins
talk time
0
Usage
1hour 28 minutes.
3 bars from the main power meter have already gone.
Brightness is set to auto and only recieve gprs from where i am at the moment.
I new it was too good to be true, look like there'll be a full charge tonight again.
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hum, yes, it is the rating that count...but given that all good batteries use the same technology (lithium-polymer), mAh rating should be in direct relation with physical size: a large battery with small rating just means that your battery is of an older generation (unlikely), or that there is a lot of dead material (plastic packaging) in your battery. So either the TD2 battery is much thinner than TD1, or it is likely that higher capacity batteries with the same physical size will surface quite soon on the accessory market (I hope for the second case, battery life under normal usage is one of the most important factor for me, it is convenient to have more than 1 day of "heavy" use per charge, and less than one day under "normal" use means the phone is poor for me, whatever its other qualities...)
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I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
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I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
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yes, my mistake However, my point stand: battery capacity should be directly linked to its physical size and weight, given that the technology and materials used are the same (especially if you compare the batteries of a single manufacturer, like HTC). If not, it mean that the battery is not optimal and that a higher capacity battery battery of the same size is likely to come afterwards (from htc or other suppliers). That's why I was interested in the physical size of the TD2 battery compared to other devices...Well, with some luck I will know today, maybe a batch will arrive this afternoon in my favorite mobile shop and I will pick one ;-)
After the first full charge and unplugging in the morning, mine lasted until the evening.
about the same as my D1.
I don't have bluetooth or wifi on ever.
So to be honest, with average use....it's still ****
Good job i bought myself a AA battery emergency charger for it as well
Extend batterylife
Maybe not what we're looking for , but it's a way to extend batterylife:
Just underclock your TD2 or other HTC-device:
Look here and here...
FYI: Overclocking is not possible (yet )!
@Juggles
Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?
So you have move to TD2.
How's it?
Good buy?
It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
Hey dude
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@Juggles
Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?
So you have move to TD2.
How's it?
Good buy?
It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
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I love it to bits! You can check out my review on Tracy & Matts Blog, http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2009/04/24/htc-touch-diamond2-review
as for wmgurus.. it sort of died a death i think! LOL
Juggles said:
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
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How you've managed to achieve this I'd like to know. As currently I have 2 bars remaining and I have the following listed:
19 hours 1 minute standby
Talk time 0 hours 2 minutes
Device Usage: 3 hours 25 minutes
since my last charge at 23:25pm Yesterday. It's now 21:53. I have had WiFi and 3G on most of the day mind you!
7 DAYS on Standby within 1 full charge! (however without Sim Card in)