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I'm using all the default ROMs from O2 on my Exec, I have the normal phone app. etc. - I've also got Magic Button installed because SPB Pocketplus's close button isn't working properly (it's just minimising).
Anyhow, when I make a call on the phone then try to close it it will not close. I can't seem to close it in System>memory>running programs because it doesn't appear and I end up having to reset my phone.
Can anyone think why this is happening? Do let me know if I've missed out any important details.
Closing phone app is not recommanded... You have to use another task manager which propose you to dissimulate the icon in the task bar. I tried a lot and Pocket plus, Wisbar lite, Handy Switcher and many more propose this option.
In fact, if you close phone application, you'll create problems with the connection to the mobile network. The only moment you can do that is for having more memory for an application and when you have activated flight mode. At that time, it's a good idea to close phone app. It's what I do. And to avoid a softreset to do that, you can use the vijay555 (the Great Vijay) app called PhoneToggle which really close it without softreset.
The phone application never actually `closes`.It just stays running in the background.
just press the red phone to return to the today screen.
Trying to close it with any task manager (espacially magic button for some reason) usually results in the Exec crashing.
Good task managers such as Wisbar Advance,ignore the phone app and leave it running in the background when you select `close all programs`,this stops the device freezing.
I`ve used Wisbar for years,and it really is THE best task manager available.
I tried using the red phone button but it does the same thing, at least after I've tried using the normal close button. Also, this never happened when SPB Pocketplus's close button was closing properly.
I can't use wisbar because I really don't like the skin features...
Does the phone icon show up next to the startbutton? If it does, tap and hold your stylus on it, it will show options. You can select an ignore option, this will hide the phone icon and stop magicbutton trying to close it.
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Try vBar. It doesn't close the phone application :lol:
BUT
it closes Pocket Hack Master :x
Going to try vBar - thanks for the suggestion.
vBar crashes the same as magic button when you try to close `all` programs.
You're right
I've been living with this accursed bug for a year.
It's why I need to reboot every cople of days - the more frequently depending on if you use the phone a lot.samewith the programs screen you can't close it or get back to today screen.
bloody thing! when is PPC vista coming out ;-)
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"vBar crashes the same as magic button when you try to close `all` programs."
Doesn't happen to my QTEK 9000
Because you obviously have somehow configured vBar to ignore the phone application.
SPB Pocket Plus is programmed to minimise instead of close certain apps like ActiveSync and the Phone app, and not to display these apps in the ALT+TAB feature.
This is because you shouldn't really close either of those apps, they are needed for correct functioning of the device!
Try SPB Pocket Plus again and bind a key to the ALT+TAB feature, I think you will like that as you see the Phone app and ActiveSync no longer "get in your way" - I love it (just like Windows XP)
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Sorry, you're right that vBar indeed crashes the system BUT only when connected in ActiveSync state. If not AS then it behaves alright.
BTW, vBar does not have an 'EXCLUDED' list or something like that
Just tried InClose Mobile and finds that using IntelliClose it does not close Pocket Hack Master. Others like 'CLOSE ALL' and 'CLOSE ALL BUT ACTIVE' will close Pocket Hack Master. This is explained in the manual
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Great little app, but I constantly find I can't close the last open application to get back to my Today screen - and if I go Start > Today, nothing happens - it seems as if the XDA *thinks* it's at the Today screen already, but my last open app (usually Phone) is still on screen, an no matter how often I clikc the little Magic Button X, it won't go away.
This only usually happens when I have a single app open, if I have 2 or more they close fine with Magic Button, right down till the last 1, then this problem starts.
Even more annoying because if I can't get to Home, I can;t lock the device.
I have a complaint about Magic Button also. On my wizard, it opened the phone menu everytime I close the window of Settings. The other annoying thing is that the X did not blend in with my theme colors. It's always a different color and looks very odd.
So what I did was uninstalled magic button and have started to use InClose program. It is MUCH better.
IMO, Magic button is crap. I dont know why people recommend it so much. Well ok, it might just be that it does not get on with the wizard.
It kept crashing for me, so i started using InClose. Brilliant freeware app and has been working perfectly for a few months now. Get it.
Zero problems with Magic Button here. Been running it for a while now
Magic Button was unacceptable to me on my Blue Angel and it's been no better for me on my Wizard. Personally I prefer wclose or smclose (which I believe are pretty much the same program) in conjunction with Smartskey.
Just my two cents worth!
I had the same problem with magic Button. After closing all the applications, the phone application would maximize. (you aren't allowed to actually close the phone application.) So with the phone application maximized, and no way to minimize it. It would get stuck on the top of the screen for me as well. I dont like in close either. It crashed alot on my system. Just use smartskey. It works great.
Hi, I had same problem with magic button and changed it to vbar (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/vbar.shtml). It's nice program with one bug - the X/ok button have blue bacground no matter what theme and color you have.
For vBar you can select your own BMP picture.. ..works like a charm!
I've been using MagicButton for a long time now, and I didn't have any problem with it on my Wizard or Prophet.
Solved it, InClose was the answer, great app, thanks all!
Hi. When I open the keyboard, the screen orients itself to the landscape mode. When I close the keyboard, the screen resumes portrait mode, but on the right hand side, part of the screen is covered by the background. It is the same width as the scroll bar. I can't get rid of it until I reset the device. Any thoughts as to the problem and the fix? Thanks.
umm i had that issue before, do you have a lot of programs open? sounds strange, but when ever i have a lot of stuff running, my device cant handle it, so it kind of gets frozen onto the screen until i reset...
does this problem occur ALL the time, or when u run a certain problem?
Actually, it only happens on the Today screen. If I have any program running in landscape and return to portrait before exiting to the Today screen, no problems. Just when I go to landscape in the Today screen. Very odd.
what todayscreen plugins are you running?
I think only two: Tonaya Weather to Go and cLauncher. Pbar is also running, but I don't think it is a Today Plug-in.
Curious D said:
I think only two: Tonaya Weather to Go and cLauncher. Pbar is also running, but I don't think it is a Today Plug-in.
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I had the same problem too with cLauncher but it is no longer there after I installed SPBMobile Shell which enable me to put cLauncher into one of its tabs buttons...
Why don't you try disabling cLauncher from your today..
I tried disabling each program alone. I had to place other today features (all standard with WM5) to create a list long enough to cause the scroll bar on landscape mode. When I return to the portrait mode, the space was still on the right side as before. Curiously, I put back the plugins, and the space was gone. Must have been refreshed.
Hi Curious,
To refresh the Today screen after the vertical scroll bar has disappeared try...
1) Select the Comms button to display comms options
2) Slip out the keyboard so that the comms buttons re-orientate
3) Slip the keyboard back in then exit the comms screen to return to the Today screen
Is the Today screen intact now?
Thanks. That worked. Now I'm just wondering why it's doing that in the first place. At least I don't have to reset to get back part of my screen. Thanks again.
Nice one! Well done. Not sure why it happens but I have the same issue but I don't mind it that much. I was guessing that it was the SPB Plus Today Plugin but I'm not sure.
Do you also use the SPB Plus Today Plugin?
No. Is that like cLauncher?
Hi Curious,
The SPB Plus Today Plug-in allows you to place shortcuts on the Today screen and group them under tabs which is nice but if you don't have it installed then that blows my theory
The only other thing I can think is that it is possible to alter the vertical scroll bar width by editing registry, the key is:
HKLM\System\GWE\cxVScr
The Default is (Decimal) 13 but you may be able to make this smaller so that it minimises the problem.
If you do find the cause then let me know
Thanks, but I think I'll stick with your previous idea. I'd rather not tinker with the registry if I don't have to since I'm not great at understanding registry changes.
cLauncher does what SPB plugin does. It's free and it allows different sizes for the icons. It really helps me with one handed function. It may be part of the problem if SPB does the same thing with the screen orientation.
Thanks again for your help.
Whats a good program that will cause programs to actually close out in WM6 instead of just minimizing. Maybe one that adds a - next to the x so if you do want to minimize you can.
SPB pocket plus and Quick Menu are both good progs for the purpose.
Have you tried the HTC Task Manager with the X button feature?
The new ROM w/ GPS works by holding on the X, if you set it that way
2x SPB pocket plus! Works great. Never have to think or worry about what's running in the background.
I've been using HandySwitcher by DinarSoft for quite some time. It's nice because it adds an icon to the taskbar at the top and allows you to see all programs that are currently running, and close them individually or all at once. The only thing I find is that even though it has a menu option to launch at start-up e.g. after a reboot, it seldom actually did! A small but annoying issue.
I'm actually trying the HTC Task Manager as mentioned above as it is in the DCD rom. It's okay and does what you'll need, but not as configurable or flexible as HandySwitcher. I'm trying it just because it's there and I was bored It replaces the default X in the corner and allows you to either hit the X or hold it for a short time instead to close the active program. The only way to see what else is open is to return to the Today screen and tap the same icon.
kareem9nba said:
Have you tried the HTC Task Manager with the X button feature?
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no, where or how do i get or do that?
I Installed the new task manager, but the old one is still there. How do i get the new task manager to take priorty and work cause Its still not closing when i hold down x.
Have you tried resetting your device?
Go to start>settings>sytem>task manager and in the settings, se "x" to close down a program.
Is there any way to make the motion sensor working in all applications?
I really would like the screen to be turned also in the acrobat reader for example...
Gsensor is the solution....
The GSen is indeed a good app to do the trick on the HD. Take a look here (also to download):
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_util.html
I guess there will be more apps for it, but don't know them yet.
Regards,
GreenFrog
Gyrator 2
Some say it's better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427805
GreenFrog said:
The GSen is indeed a good app to do the trick on the HD. Take a look here (also to download):
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_util.html
I guess there will be more apps for it, but don't know them yet.
Regards,
GreenFrog
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Exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks!
On my HD I cannot have Gsen launch at startup as I get an error message about it not being able to access the G-sensor.
I have to wait for TF3D to load and then load it manually. Not a biggie but a niggle - but less of a niggle than not having my screen reorient as I need it.
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Gyrator 2
Some say it's better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427805
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Yes, it is. More flexible, comfortable und stable.
Is there a way to get Gyrator to autostart?
Another thing is that when I push the -close all programms- button. It closes Gyrator as well. Is there a way to keep Gyrator running on the background?
Auto start and stop it closing
I couldn't get on with GSEN and had similar problems launching gyrator at start up....
so I wrote the simplest Mortscript....and attached it.
Just edit the script (if your Gyrator is intalled elsewehere, otherwise leave it), and copy a shortcut to the script to your startup folder.
Change the delay time till it fits for you.
You'll also need to download and install mortscript, but it's extremely useful & free!
see http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=page&entry=ms_overview&action=view
As for stopping it closing, click the tools (the spanners) in the HTC task drop down (where you go to close all apps) and set gyrator2 to exclusive.
Job done
Both apps work fine for me.
The only problem I have is within opera.
If I turn the screen, then opera turns, but then in the next second it turns back to portrait.
Opera is excluded from doing anything in both apps.
(Off course I only use one app at the time)
Any help for that?
no problem with opera here, using gyrator. turns screen in every direction i turn the device, except upside down.
gyrator works fine, although if you lock the device it will rotate your today screen as well. a bit annoying when the device is in your pocket the wrong way, answering a phonecall is kind of a challenge.
Still the same problem:
Using gyrator with the default settings, my Opera Browser first rotates to landscape when turning the device to landscape as it should.
Then after 2-3sec it rotates back to portrait even if the device is still holded in landscape.
Any idea?
ulischultz said:
Still the same problem:
Using gyrator with the default settings, my Opera Browser first rotates to landscape when turning the device to landscape as it should.
Then after 2-3sec it rotates back to portrait even if the device is still holded in landscape.
Any idea?
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Well Opera can be rotated with the motion sensor by default, try adding it in the Gyrator exceptions.
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Well Opera can be rotated with the motion sensor by default, try adding it in the Gyrator exceptions.
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It is in the exceptions by default.
No help with that!
Hello
I tested both and Gyrator 2 is better as GSEN
More reactive
ulischultz said:
Still the same problem:
Using gyrator with the default settings, my Opera Browser first rotates to landscape when turning the device to landscape as it should.
Then after 2-3sec it rotates back to portrait even if the device is still holded in landscape.
Any idea?
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I have the same problem!
Any solution yet?
Gyrator 2 was working fine but now I have a strange problem with it. After a softreset everything works as should, but for some reason after a little while whenever I turn the device in lanscape the creen reverts back to the TF3D tab in portrait that I had last used. Is it a setting that does this? When I disable gyrator 2 everything is fine, but then not everything rotates as I would like it to.
I have added two execptions to the standard ones, the today screen and the incoming call screen.
If anybody know an answer or has (had) the same problem I'd appreciate a fix/solution.
thanks!
Or MobileMagic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
Which does not have issues with Opera...
And allows also to force apps to certain rotations....
But every app has its pros and cons...
Being a Newbie to winmob (formerly UIQ3) I am finding that Gens is OK on mosts screens but not on Home Page and the other TouchFlo screens. Am I doing something wrong - or probably stupid?
I was having lots of problems with all my apps. They seemed to only rotate sometimes, and I couldn't have the device even slightly flat or the rotation wouldn't occur.
I just was playing around with gyrator 2, went into edit event for (disabled) opera, orientation and checked all but the last two options and hit apply.
Opera is still showing as disabled, but what a difference!
Rotates really quickly, and when almost flat as well!