No videocalling in Windows Mobile 6.0? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hey, am I right when I say that there is no video calling (3G) included? The videocall hardware button (the one with that phone hook and eye) doesn't do anything and on the onscreen phone keypad there's no such button anymore....

Ok, so what I read here and there is that Crossbow doesn't support the video call drivers...
When will these drivers be available? Will this just be drivers (CAB) or more likely an entire new ROM?

3G works fine (data/normal calls) but there is no driver to interface the camera in the front with the phone, so no video calling atm

That totally sucks ofcourse...!
Well, seems that we have to be patient.
Having Crossbow running for a few hours, tried everything and must say that I fell in love with it. Videocalling is the only problem I encountered so far.
Do you think we have to wait a long time for that to be supported and will this mean just a tiny CAB-file driver or a complete new ROM? Just installed everything and that's so much work.... Lazy me.

both if i can

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recording both sides of the call =)

Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
gluhov: if you're prepared to move phones for this feature, consider the gigabyte phones.
V
please give a link for that phone
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
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PMRecorder does work well however you have to have all your conversations in speakerphone mode to pickup the person talking on the other end. The website says this is a limitation by the manufacturer (although not sure if the mean the HTC's, MS or the OEMs)
Cheers
Excellent review of the GigaByte:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,46925
Not sure if it's available yet, but I wants it!
V
WOW!!
I wants it too - I'm beginning to think the Wiz is a bit of a dead loss anyway
You can't beat an old 6310i as a phone
The Gigabyte phone has got all the functions that the Wiz is missing - and look at that camera !!!
Offtopic:
And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
gluhov: If you are considering the gigabyte for the call recording, on reading the review it looks like it may have the same functionality as PMRecorder. As it says "you can record your own telephone conversations", I would clarification of what is meant by "your own conversations" To me this sounds like one sided recording, although i presume the speaker method would work here as well.
However it is a nicely feature packed device, i wouldnt mind getting my hands on one myself although i think i have gotten used to the Wizards keyboard and (slowish) speed now. I just want my A2DP!!!
Cheers
The recorder in the 'notes' application will happily record both sides as well - the other side will be a bit noisier/fainter, but unless you're recording for criminal evidence, that shouldn't be a problem. ( And keep in mind that many countries have laws prohibiting conversation recording unless you make this explicitly clear to the other side )
As for the Gigabyte - looks nice, specs-wise. However - no Edge? So definitely no UMTS/HSDPA. Not a huge loss, perhaps, but if you're aiming for the future anyway, it might be worth waiting for whatever they'll come out with next?
Guys - lets stop talking about these gygobyte.
PLEASE TEST THAT APLICATION AND ANSWER MY QUESTION - that will really help.
vijay555 said:
Offtopic:
And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
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Gigabyte (Around US$700)and Atom (US$750) already for sales in Hong Kong for a while.
The REAL device of gigabyte is suck I'm sorry to tell you that.
The TV function ONLY support NTSC and which doesn't support PAL as they have mention. And the screen is too small. And there is serveral problem awaiting to fix.
1. Bluetooth A2DP issue. Auto disconnect once the device screen is off.
2. If incoming call pop up, if your didn't recived the call. The "incoming call" screen still there, even the other side already drop the line.
3. When open the function inside the phone. the device Vol will auto turn to silent. even no vibrate.
4.The camera is RED. Outdoor/ Indoor. All photo seems auto in RED tune.
New rom been release in Early Feb. But same problem still found.
And Atom is keep fixing their probelm. They are like haven't more than
one updat per month. And the device now is very smooth today. But I think there must be more update coming very soon.
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
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Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 for a complete discussion of the subject.
of course i read it.
i just need an answer from real user
it doesn't record incoming audio. you'd have to get a htc typhoon(i think) smartphone device to do this.
Are you tru wizrd owner?
Doesn't work on my Wizard (Vario)
gluhov said:
Are you tru wizrd owner?
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Yes I am. I actually e-mailed the company about this awhile back and heres what they told me.
"Techsupport to me 12/27/05
The Wizard does not support the dual audio path. the HTC Tornado and Cingular 2125 both support it, but the PPC Wizard does not. Sorry about that. It is a hardware limitation on the device.
> i've been playing around with pmvault and pm recorder on an htc wizard
> phone. Vault works flawlessly and is so convenient. Recorder doesn't
> record incoming audio though. My voice can be heard fine, but not the
> person I'm talking to. I know that the wizard devices are pocket pcs and
> not smartphones, but WM5 for ppc is supposed to run programs for both. Any
> thoughts on it?"
hmm.
if you use speacker phohe - will it help to record second part or not?
Becouse on magician if you use it everything is recorded very well.
Nope, it just records my voice. The other's voice is very faint audible when set to speaker mode, but certainly not loud en clear enough to understand.
I have a Wizard and use PMRecorder. Although the other party is faint on a recording it is possible to hear and understand them.

Working Answer Machine :p

Check Here
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-isecretary-v1-1.html
Hi,
here is the new Version 2.3
wfg
Starbase64
Won't work on a lot of devices. Can't record directly from the radio.
what devices does this work with? does the answerphone work silently by intercepting the audio stream of the call. I though this couldn't be done.
If it can be done. How!! Could have lots of fun with this feature
Has anybody testet this on a TyTn II ?
this software ask me for the netCF.. where can i get NetCF?
Tried the newest version 3 on Trinity and it does not work. It cannot play the outgoing message. I hope they can get this working on Trinity.
Not workin'
It's not workin' on my Universal WM5, i unzipped the folder, double-clicked on .exe file, nothin' happens.
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
N1kko said:
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
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You mean that you can still record with good quality even when not in speakerphone mode, i.e. the software doesn't depend on the microphone picking up the call from the loudspeaker? If that's the case then the developer deserves the Nobel Price! Up until now everyone(?) have thought that this was impossible due to hardware limitations in the Hermes and almost all other PPC phones from HTC.
N1kko said:
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
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I downloaded the version 3 as well, installed the cab. I don't know why the f**k, it ain't workin' on my Universal WM5, even though it mentions clearly in this website, that it's compatible with WM5.
Any suggestions ?
P.S what is Compact FrameWork v2 mentioned on that website ? Is that .NET Framework, anyone with the link ?
Agreed..
abubasim said:
You mean that you can still record with good quality even when not in speakerphone mode, i.e. the software doesn't depend on the microphone picking up the call from the loudspeaker? If that's the case then the developer deserves the Nobel Price! Up until now everyone(?) have thought that this was impossible due to hardware limitations in the Hermes and almost all other PPC phones from HTC.
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I truly agree on that, that is why i really wanna try this application. B'cuz, as far as we know, the hardware of WM phones ain't compatible to record sounds from microphone. Same is the case with Call Recorder.
got it running on the herald without issues.....nice app although I still wish I could get the Answering Machine from the stealth....but like someone said before I thought this could not be done with HTC devices so I'm happy anyway
Does it do as I suspect and just put the call audio to the speakerphone and then record that via the microphone?
CRCinAU said:
Does it do as I suspect and just put the call audio to the speakerphone and then record that via the microphone?
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yeah, absolutely pal. It's like the answerin' machine in symbian phones. The only difference is that, speakerphone is a compulsion(or a limitation) here, b'cuz of hardware incompatibility.
Adieu..
Hrrrm - thought so.... DO NOT WANT.
WOW is work on my HTC Touch!!! I'm using iSecretary 3.0 is wayyy better then the old vers.........
if they make play message easy i will buy right away!!
I couldnt get iSecretary to work on my Kaiser (Tytn II) i mean it would run but when people would call in they could not hear the voice message.
4.4 wont work on my jasjar
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks

Skype on the shift

Hi
according to this video from JKontherun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nlwLJefZE
skype is not working well on the shift, i dont seem to have any problems with it, but i havent used it that much, anybody run in to any problems?
Maybe it is the us version that have problems only
regards,
Allan
I find Skype video conference call performance to be pretty poor (at least with Aero on) using both the GSM and CDMA versions of the Shift. I haven't found an Intel A110 800MHz UMPC yet that handles Skype video calls smoothly under Vista .
Maybe with a little overclocking it will help Skype performance. I use Skype myself so when I get my device I hope we can get the overclocking resolved and see what happens.
Anyone take performance measurements to see what else, if anything, is tagging CPU and RAM when Skype is running? Maybe it will help if Vista itself is optimized a little.
skype is horrible in performances .. i have never been able to have a good video conference with skype .. it is the worst application ever :/
koala996 said:
skype is horrible in performances .. i have never been able to have a good video conference with skype .. it is the worst application ever :/
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Have you ever tried ICQ's video conf? I tried it a few years back and it was awesome.
ltxda said:
Have you ever tried ICQ's video conf? I tried it a few years back and it was awesome.
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i don't remember that there was video conf on ICQ ! I should have tried but I was not a big ICQ user, and I haven't used ICQ for about 4 years.
I'd like Windows Live Call to be working here in Belgium .. because I have found that WinLiveMessenger was better than skype for video conf and audio call but the phone ability is not working here
So i've been doing some experiments and found a peculiarity... first i disabled all the Vista special effects (optimised for performance) and then stopped anything extra from starting up to conserve CPU and memory.
Now when i run Skype 3.6 and make a test call the CPU settles around 80% and if i use the inbuilt mic and speakers everything is fine. Audio quality is actually pretty good.
The problems start when i plug the headset in that came with the shift. Then, no matter how i try, the audio from the mic is choppy and makes a call impossible...
I tried to update the Realtek drivers but it says that they are the latest...
What's going on here? Why would it perform so poorly when i use the inbuilt headset? (i assume the mic's not broken...)
Anyone else had these troubles? Any suggestions? Would other audio drivers work?
Btw, i've also managed to do some pretty acceptable Video calls now too.
salmon said:
So i've been doing some experiments and found a peculiarity... first i disabled all the Vista special effects (optimised for performance) and then stopped anything extra from starting up to conserve CPU and memory.
Now when i run Skype 3.6 and make a test call the CPU settles around 80% and if i use the inbuilt mic and speakers everything is fine. Audio quality is actually pretty good.
The problems start when i plug the headset in that came with the shift. Then, no matter how i try, the audio from the mic is choppy and makes a call impossible...
I tried to update the Realtek drivers but it says that they are the latest...
What's going on here? Why would it perform so poorly when i use the inbuilt headset? (i assume the mic's not broken...)
Anyone else had these troubles? Any suggestions? Would other audio drivers work?
Btw, i've also managed to do some pretty acceptable Video calls now too.
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i bet once ltxda gets some time and the device he will get skype or a good alternative working well on the shift. btw, does video confrencing using the cam via windows live messenger work?
Pawel062 said:
i bet once ltxda gets some time and the device he will get skype or a good alternative working well on the shift. btw, does video confrencing using the cam via windows live messenger work?
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Video confewrence works in windows live messenger with the built in cam. with aero and co running it lags little bit but works.
Basmelek said:
Video confewrence works in windows live messenger with the built in cam. with aero and co running it lags little bit but works.
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thats good. will be nice if the whole shift project team can do video confrencing over msn
Under Winxp tablet
skype video conf works very well under Winxp tablet, as same as MSN
bg4qqz said:
skype video conf works very well under Winxp tablet, as same as MSN
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so i guess it just sucks under vista. kind of expected since i dont think the tablet edition uses as much resources as vista.
i remove virtual disk of winxp, there about 500M ram free, winxp and the application software under the system runs very fluently,and the LED of HD seldom flash.
bg4qqz said:
i remove virtual disk of winxp, there about 500M ram free, winxp and the application software under the system runs very fluently,and the LED of HD seldom flash.
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nice find. looks like we all should go to xp tablet edition. or maybe ltxda will be able to optimize vista for us.
Hi, sounds excellent to me. Any chance of a "how to" guide for getting to where you are bg4qqz? i.e. Win XP Tablet + removing the virtual disk?
just use USB DVD driver to install winxp tablet, I tried 3 unit of DVD drivers, only one works, others two failed to installation system, just show blue screen with erro withe chats, then reboot.
I don't have xp drivers for WLAN, touch screen, BT and resolution button. others worked well
in my office, i use USB lan adapter, keyboard, and big LCD monitior work with shift to replace desktop, out side, i use shift edge connection for xp, and HTC S1 as the wifi adapter for shift.
Hope you guys get the drivers for xp done soon.
bg4qqz said:
just use USB DVD driver to install winxp tablet, I tried 3 unit of DVD drivers, only one works, others two failed to installation system, just show blue screen with erro withe chats, then reboot.
I don't have xp drivers for WLAN, touch screen, BT and resolution button. others worked well
in my office, i use USB lan adapter, keyboard, and big LCD monitior work with shift to replace desktop, out side, i use shift edge connection for xp, and HTC S1 as the wifi adapter for shift.
Hope you guys get the drivers for xp done soon.
I live in Suzhou, China.
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yep. coming as soon as we get the devices in. shouldn't be too much longer.
msn on shift
quote for msn on shift. tried a lot of time and videocalls works fine, with sidebar, stardock object, sp1 on.
no lag, no problems,
seems to work very well
Pitt1983
pitt1983 said:
quote for msn on shift. tried a lot of time and videocalls works fine, with sidebar, stardock object, sp1 on.
no lag, no problems,
seems to work very well
Pitt1983
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ok thanx for the info. sounds good.

SKype

does anyone know why skype doesnt work on Ppc
What's your device? OS?
And what about Skype version?
I've got a Cruise and WM6 and Skype 2.2.0.37 works fine.
@+
I have titan and I used 6 & 6.1 wm and no worky
I have it working on WM6 on a Himalaya. How did you install it?
It seems to have trouble installing via cab and needs to be installed using the exe via Activesync (though I am sure there is a way to do it via a cab).
Perhaps you installed it to ramdisk and when your battery goes flat you've lost part of it?
Give us a bit more information of what part exactly isn't working.
Does it install or not?
Does it not launch when you click on it on your PPC?
Which version are you using?
etc
when i make a call i cant hear anyone and they cant hear me and i nstalled with active and cab both dont work
I have a Sprint Mogul also know as HTC TITAN PPC6800 and I just downloaded the SKYPE cab file for pocket pc from the SKYPE.com website and it works perfectly on my phone. I have been using it for over 4 months nows!
Clicking/Skipping during Echo123 call
Hey All--
I've had a Sprint Mogul for about 6 months now--just upgraded to the latest official EV-DO Rev.A ROM, and things seemed to be working a bit better for me (particularily battery-wise, the latest ROM seems to be a little more energy efficient).
So, I felt brave, and decided to give Skype a go. I've been waiting to look into it to fully utilize the WiFi with Skype--cheap and/or free calls from any free hotspot? yes please.--and finally installed the latest available version from the Skype website (can't rememebr the rev #--whatever the website recommends). Of course, it installs, and even calls the Echo123 number, but no sound.
Did a little more research, and found that it's the earlier betas (2.2.0.20 and 2.2.0.18) that seem to be working for people (apparently with mixed with results--some people say the sound quality is awful, some say it works like a charm).
I uninstalled the most recent Skype from the phone, powered down, and then I tried 2.2.0.20 beta--and lo and behold, I was able to hear and record from echo123, but there was a crackling noise (like a CD skipping) any time there was sound coming across the speakers (this is using both the loudspeaker and the included wired headset, also happeded on WiFi or EV-DO, with and without echo correction).
I then uninstalled 2.2.0.20 beta, powered down, and then tried 2.2.0.18. Exact same problem. The sound of my voice coming back on echo123 was actually slightly better than my regular phone; it's just that crcackling that I'm sure will drive me crazy and make the program unuseable.
Has anyone gotten Skype to work on the Mogul without that CD skip sound? I've read through all the forums here, on PPC Geeks, and SprintUsers, and have yet to find anyone definitifely getting great results who can explain how they got there. Is there some other codec or driver that I need to replace? Is there a certain kitchen ROM that will enable Skype to work?
Failing that, is there another program that I can use to make calls for free without having to sign up with an SIP? I also tried fring, but it didn't have any sound on the echo call either, just like the most recent Skype download. Any other suggestions? Seems like things like Octrotalk and SJphone al require setting up some sort of server, which might be fun, but don't really have the time or resources for right now.
I'm leaving for vacation in a few days, and would love to figure this out before I went...any help? Thanks...
C
clg6000 said:
Hey All--
I've had a Sprint Mogul for about 6 months now--just upgraded to the latest official EV-DO Rev.A ROM, and things seemed to be working a bit better for me (particularily battery-wise, the latest ROM seems to be a little more energy efficient).
So, I felt brave, and decided to give Skype a go. I've been waiting to look into it to fully utilize the WiFi with Skype--cheap and/or free calls from any free hotspot? yes please.--and finally installed the latest available version from the Skype website (can't rememebr the rev #--whatever the website recommends). Of course, it installs, and even calls the Echo123 number, but no sound.
Did a little more research, and found that it's the earlier betas (2.2.0.20 and 2.2.0.18) that seem to be working for people (apparently with mixed with results--some people say the sound quality is awful, some say it works like a charm).
I uninstalled the most recent Skype from the phone, powered down, and then I tried 2.2.0.20 beta--and lo and behold, I was able to hear and record from echo123, but there was a crackling noise (like a CD skipping) any time there was sound coming across the speakers (this is using both the loudspeaker and the included wired headset, also happeded on WiFi or EV-DO, with and without echo correction).
I then uninstalled 2.2.0.20 beta, powered down, and then tried 2.2.0.18. Exact same problem. The sound of my voice coming back on echo123 was actually slightly better than my regular phone; it's just that crcackling that I'm sure will drive me crazy and make the program unuseable.
Has anyone gotten Skype to work on the Mogul without that CD skip sound? I've read through all the forums here, on PPC Geeks, and SprintUsers, and have yet to find anyone definitifely getting great results who can explain how they got there. Is there some other codec or driver that I need to replace? Is there a certain kitchen ROM that will enable Skype to work?
Failing that, is there another program that I can use to make calls for free without having to sign up with an SIP? I also tried fring, but it didn't have any sound on the echo call either, just like the most recent Skype download. Any other suggestions? Seems like things like Octrotalk and SJphone al require setting up some sort of server, which might be fun, but don't really have the time or resources for right now.
I'm leaving for vacation in a few days, and would love to figure this out before I went...any help? Thanks...
C
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i second this... I would love a friggin working skype app for my mogul as well.
i recently tried something called fring, and skype doesn't work on that either.
ranmasaotome510 said:
i second this... I would love a friggin working skype app for my mogul as well.
i recently tried something called fring, and skype doesn't work on that either.
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Why don't you try FRING?
It can manage Msn, Yahoo, Skype and other SIP accounts.....
PS: It works correctly on my Touch.....
More updates
Well, I've been searching around, and it looks like WM6 doesn't natively handle VOIP (check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950)
I'm going to try to install these dlls and see how far I get...
Otherwise, I have tried fring, and excitingly, everything worked just fine in googletalk (actually the sound quality I got was *better* than a regular cell call)--except that the person I was talking to couldn't hear me. I could chat though, so at least we could communicate. Similarily, skype through fring to echo123 did not work--I connected, but no sound came through my mike.
I also tried a straight up Skype call (using the 2.2.0.18 beta), however the results were very disappointing. Sound had lots of skips, clicks, slowdowns. Don't see how it would be useful, and certainly not worth paying for.
Also installed Octrotalk--but was surprised to see no talk protocols in the program, just chat stuff through AIM, Yahoo, MSN, etc. Also, the soft buttons (the two screen buttons usually on the left and right of the bottom) seem to be unlabelled--I can press them, but there's not text on them, so I didn't even think they were there at first. A bad install? Maybe my Java is outdated?
Anyway, the search continues...

W100 and Kaiser

Dear Xda's, i have a problem and i need help! I would like to know if there is anyone that knows a rom in which the w100 remote control works perfectly? Since all the Roms that i have tried lately (Dutty, L26, UDK) fail misserably when i try to make to make the remote work. They all af the same problem that they just dont recoqnise the remote, if i plug it in, the sounds still comes over the speaker instead of the headphones.
I also tried the drivers on each rom but they fail to install since its not necessary accourding to them. I have tried extracting the drivers and install one of the seperate drivers but they eather cause my touchscreen not to work or my sound disappears.
I've used the search btw and googled, but after 3 nights for searching and trying i havent found anything so far.
If someone knows a rom, driver or anything that works, please say it here since im gettin a bit frustated. Thanks!
Bump, anyone plix?
Just gonna do smooth bump again since after a month of trying still no succes. HTC isnt responding with an answer so my only hope is here!
L26 KaiserDiamond Throttle Launcher Beta 6 works partially
I have a Kaiser (tilt) running this ROM and the sound is OK. Volume control pops WMP (I use S2P) - mute pops Audio Control and I did not have a chance to test the phone funcitons. But at least I can liste to music
Did you try the original HTC Tytn II ROM posted somewhere in Kaiser ROM development ?
I hope this helps.

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