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Do you experience lag on your universal?
When you have install SPB pocket plus, and recall from stanby?
will need around 5-10 seconds to repond?
Any solution for this?
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
Have encountered the same problem with my Dopod 900. After some discussion and comparison with other Dopod 900 users here in Singapore, found that everyone has the same issue as well...
Not sure if it is due to the ROM?
One of the reason is due to Spb pocket plus. Don't use it. My don't have any lag problem after i junked the Spb pocket plus. In fact you don't need any task closing program to force close the program, WM5.0 can handle multiple programs in memory fine. Just do a close all at the end of the day and you should be fine.
Bin the msn plug in slows mine. I removed mine.
The problem is with the "storage card" meter....
just remove the storage card meter, and everything would be fine!
the lag is because, WM5 takes a few seconds to initialize the storage card, and spb plus locks up looking for one in this period....
Hope this helps,
San
Well, I found that killing the "srvtrust" process as soon as my JasJar starts up seems to speed things up quite a lot...
dreamtheater39 said:
The problem is with the "storage card" meter....
just remove the storage card meter, and everything would be fine!
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Didn't I just say that?!
parkertseng said:
Do you experience lag on your universal?
When you have install SPB pocket plus, and recall from stanby?
will need around 5-10 seconds to repond?
Any solution for this?
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PocketPlus did this to my Exec too, so I uninstalled it.
There's no point having PP on the Today screen if you can't show the meters. There are enough buttons on the Universal to map to your favourite programs that you can survive without a launcher until SPB release a properly-compatible version of PocketPlus, IMHO.
This is not a Pocket Plus exclusive fault, *almost any* today plugin that display battery and/or storage infos cause this lag. For instance, Resco Today Plugin exploits the same issue.
The only plugin that seems to not slow down the wake-up process is SBSH iLauncher.
Cheers.
@ngel said:
This is not a Pocket Plus exclusive fault, *almost any* today plugin that display battery and/or storage infos cause this lag. For instance, Resco Today Plugin exploits the same issue.
The only plugin that seems to not slow down the wake-up process is SBSH iLauncher.
Cheers.
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On the other hand, Pocket Weather and especially PocketBreeze (again by SBSH) seem to slow it up a lot as well. But they are really useful for me so .....trade off!
sunstealer said:
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
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Hey, this really works and now I know why!!!!
sunstealer said:
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
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Hey, this really works and now I know why!!!!
sunstealer said:
dreamtheater39 said:
The problem is with the "storage card" meter....
just remove the storage card meter, and everything would be fine!
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Didn't I just say that?!
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u said "free ram" too
that doesnt slow down anything ;-)
its just the storage card....!
cheers!
San
parkertseng said:
sunstealer said:
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
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Hey, this really works and now I know why!!!!
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How do you take this bar off?
NOW IS GOOD
Hi,
I uninstalled SPB and finally my JASJAR is working fine. Thanks to this forum I'm really understanding many things. Differently I should have sold my JASJAR.
CIAO
STefano
Just go the the setting of the SPB pocket plus and unselect that item hten that will do
Ok, this is what i want.
I have my default today screen with all my plugins running. At the top(or side) must be tabs (somethings like spdpocketplus) to more than one today screen. Lets say TodayTab1 displays my System monitor and weather, TodayTab2 displays my RSS and Blogs and shedule and TodayTab3 displays my Mail Boxes and Sms's.
But spb pocket plus doesnt support this tipe of tabs or does it? Is it possible?
[email protected]_4ngel said:
Ok, this is what i want.
I have my default today screen with all my plugins running. At the top(or side) must be tabs (somethings like spdpocketplus) to more than one today screen. Lets say TodayTab1 displays my System monitor and weather, TodayTab2 displays my RSS and Blogs and shedule and TodayTab3 displays my Mail Boxes and Sms's.
But spb pocket plus doesnt support this tipe of tabs or does it? Is it possible?
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I use wisbar advance desktop that allows multiple desktops and speeds up the device by putting only one or two plugins on each desktop. Also allows text tabs to link you to each of the other desktops.
Mike
Look up JGUI.
V
Some days ago I was looking for a good today calendar plugin and got some answers from the forum, I'm still trying them but in a trial I found that Pocket Breeze (from SBSH) in it current version can actually do what you want.
This software allows to have TABS with diferent info in each one...calendar, task, notes, messages... and also, you can add your customs tabs including on it any today pluginn you have installed; that way yo can have a TAB with the weather info, or any other app you can view on the normal today screen; even the spb pocketplus you have can be view in one of the TABS if you want...
You can download a trial version of the software before buy it in order to see if that is what you are looking for...so far now I have not have any problem of performance using it..
Best regards;
mablan
[email protected]_4ngel said:
Ok, this is what i want.
I have my default today screen with all my plugins running. At the top(or side) must be tabs (somethings like spdpocketplus) to more than one today screen.
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It seems SK Today Commander is exactly what you want.
Cheers
Daniel
tadzio said:
It seems SK Today Commander is exactly what you want.
Cheers
Daniel
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Thanks Daniel! This is what i was looking for!! Works good.. Just one problem, this thing kinda slows down my phone allot.. i only have two screens set.. Dono if this is right?! Anyone willing to test on an HTC TyTn for me!?!? plz. just wana know if its slow as mine..
How quick is the actual switching?
Instant, near instant, roughly X seconds?
Thanks guys.
V
oh sorry.. from today1 to today2 about 7-10seconds. Backwords about 2seconds..
Maybe there is a regkey that can increase the memory use for this app or something to make it switch more instant like.. ??!!
That may depends what you used in today1 and today2. Mind listing the stuff you had in today1 and today2? 7-10 seconds are really slow. And, does it happen all the time while switching from today1 to today2 or does it have a cache thing that, once you did it, the next switching becomes faster.
Ok. Oh, there doesnt seem to be caching..
On today1 I have the following:
1) Date (Default one)
2) Calender (Default one)
3) Messaging (Default one)
4) IP Dashboard
5) Phone Dashboard
6) Resco Today Plugin
7) Device lock (Default one)
On today2 I have:
1) Wireless (That registry hack to display the connections status)
2) WeatherPanel ( I disabled it to test, but its still slow!)
3) Device Lock (Default one)
Well, can anyone else confirm that SK Today Commander slows down your TyTn when having 2 or more today screens?
Yes, I does seem to be slow in switching. I installed the trial version last night and only have 2 screens. I am using the buttons in the task bar and when activating a change I will see Help or contacts flash on the screen before it actually switches Today Screens. Not sure if I want to pay the money or not for the app.
try JGUI MoreTodays
SkizZO said:
try JGUI MoreTodays
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Thanx @ samsonib for also testing.. Its a bummer, that app looks and works very nice, just the slowness thats the downside!
SkizZO, im downloading the app now to test! Thanx!
ok, i just installed JGUI MoreTodays! It also works, but its the same as the other one.. Its also damn slooowwww.. Dont think this device was made to handle more than one today screen.. Looks like there is no app out there that can do an instant switch to a second today screen..
I downloaded MoreTodays! and it seems to be a little faster than the Today Commander and I don't get the flashes of the help screens, etc. I guess I will play with it for the 5 free days before the trial ends before I go back to one crowded screen. Thanks.
Well I thought I had 5 days to use MoreTodays!, but this morning a message popped up saying that the trial had expired and I could only use 1 screen until I removed trial and reloaded the full version. Anyone else have this issue?
Hi all. As it is a recognised bug in Spb Shell that the Spb Menu does not display correctly in Landscape only, from a cold boot until you have navigated through some of its menu's (then it works perfectly until the next soft-reset), I was wondering if anyone had come across a simpler solution to this current problem.
Has anyone else experienced a slowing down of the O/S with it installed or memory leakage?
I 've looked around at previous threads and other sites, but I've either missed it or it doesn't exist.
I'm running version 1.0.0, Build 2632
Is there a newer version available? If so, can someone please provide a link as I cannot find anything at Spb's site.
Cheers
C'mon people. I know I'm not the only one to experience this as I have read a long thread about this on the developers website. It's just sometimes us end-users find ways around these types of issues and I was hoping this was one such time......No takers? OK, I'll simply report back the solution for all the shy ones once I have found it myself.
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C'mon people. I know I'm not the only one to experience this as I have read a long thread about this on the developers website. It's just sometimes us end-users find ways around these types of issues and I was hoping this was one such time......No takers? OK, I'll simply report back the solution for all the shy ones once I have found it myself.
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you are not the only one, i have this problem too, that's why i disable the SPB menu, i am now only using the SPB Mobile Shell Today plugin. if i am not wrong, once you get your menu working or eventually load up, all your sound is gone.
I have heard other people having this problem too, so until next version is out, i will disable the menu for now.
Wow. I didn't realize before. I have that prob to..
Ha ha me too. Didn't realise the sound issue was down to the menu though. Thanks for that Wu.
mackaby007 said:
Ha ha me too. Didn't realise the sound issue was down to the menu though. Thanks for that Wu.
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glad to help, haha, you don't know what you have miss. I was surprise at first why my phone doesn't ring.
My mVoice software suffers from a similar bug. I think I had another program that did this also but I don't remember which it was. Long since deleted it.
My camera doesnt work when mobile is running,it just comes up blank.
I did have the same issue, however after installing true VGA, i no longer suffer from this issue; works perfectly.
what???????????????????????????
how did you get mobile shell to work with truevga?
several people including me don't get mobile shell to work (at least not the today plugin).
after installing i can't go to the today screen anymore. it gets stuck there. i need to go back to vga mode and uninstall it or hardreset.
zwuncki said:
what???????????????????????????
how did you get mobile shell to work with truevga?
several people including me don't get mobile shell to work (at least not the today plugin).
after installing i can't go to the today screen anymore. it gets stuck there. i need to go back to vga mode and uninstall it or hardreset.
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Yes, your quite right, you need to take the main spb shell today plugin out. However, the other plugins like world time and contacts etc can still remain. It is quite stable....
The problem is caused by the ATI videocard. It is not correctly supported bij SPB. Weeks ago I was in contact with SPB and I showed them this problem. The first 7 or 8 times that you use the menu nothing happens. At that point all te graphic memory get flushed. After the is no driver buffer memory left, it will show the icons. But at that point the camera and the sounds will not work anymore until you reset your device.
Bloody ATI/AMD...they suck!!!
QAN said:
The problem is caused by the ATI videocard. It is not correctly supported bij SPB. Weeks ago I was in contact with SPB and I showed them this problem. The first 7 or 8 times that you use the menu nothing happens. At that point all te graphic memory get flushed. After the is no driver buffer memory left, it will show the icons. But at that point the camera and the sounds will not work anymore until you reset your device.
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This ATI Imageon chip/driver is becoming the bain of my life!! Video performance is lacking due to it, and now it affects other applications and sound too.
I have been complaining about ATI since September 2006, specifically the 2282 Imageon technology found in the Hermes, Trinity and now the Athena. That's a lot of unsupported devices floating around out there. According to Corecodec, ATI haven't exactly been playing ball with them either...and they are developers!
Maybe if enough of us complain (large petition) to HTC, they can get ATI/AMD to get a fix together that will work on all Imageon based devices..WM5/6 . After all, HTC must be shelling out a fair few dollars to them...so if they will listen to anyone, it most likely will be HTC. Enough already...wish I had stuck to my guns and stayed away from any more devices that are Imageon 'disabled'. lol.
P.S. Oh by the way...if Spb haven't or cannot fix this by their next release, Spb Shell is coming off my Ameo and I will be demanding a FULL refund on the basis that it does not work as advertised on my WM5 device.
P.P.S Another good reason is that if Spb don't get it fixed by the next release, it's probably that they can't as they will need tech assistance from ATI/AMD and based on their track record with Corecodecs coreplayer, I'd say the possibility of this happening is slim to none. Just my experience over the last 8 months.
faisal.husain said:
Yes, your quite right, you need to take the main spb shell today plugin out. However, the other plugins like world time and contacts etc can still remain. It is quite stable....
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thought you maybe had a solution for this.
i love the mobile shell today plugin, don't need the menu or start screen. so the most important doesn't work.
i've already written this in their forum, they don't seem to care, said it's the realvga resolution which is causing the problem (i should uninstall realvga... right, cause mobile shell is so much more important, man).
well maybe, but i don't think it's a lot to ask for a realvga today plugin which would work fine (as every other plugin does too), esp. as one of the devolpers has a vga device.
quite poor support (i love the sbsh support who help you in every way they can and very fast). i'm not a fan of spb developing/developers, that's why i don't use their products anymore and won't buy new ones.
wu5262 said:
you are not the only one, i have this problem too, that's why i disable the SPB menu, i am now only using the SPB Mobile Shell Today plugin. if i am not wrong, once you get your menu working or eventually load up, all your sound is gone.
I have heard other people having this problem too, so until next version is out, i will disable the menu for now.
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That's exactly what I've done. Disabled the menus and just use the Now screen. It's annoying 'cos I used it extensively on my Wizard.
One of the other problems is that when using Mobile Shell with SPB Diary, quite a lot of the screen is used up so only a days worth of appointments is usually shown.
Adey
Still sound issue
Hi there guys. I also had the issue with the sound. Has since uninstalled Spb shell and done a hard reset but sound issue remains. Any help please?
I have the T-mobile ROM with WM5 on. Do any of you have WM6 and where to get it?
Superdawie said:
Hi there guys. I also had the issue with the sound. Has since uninstalled Spb shell and done a hard reset but sound issue remains. Any help please?
I have the T-mobile ROM with WM5 on. Do any of you have WM6 and where to get it?
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this must be the 7th or 8th times i have answer this question......NO, THERE IS NO WM6 YET, it will be out in about 2 months.
If you have done the hard-reset and haven't install any program, and your sound doesn't work, then this is something serious and might not due to SPB shell.
so, spb shell is NOT working on x7500, right?
di2307 said:
so, spb shell is NOT working on x7500, right?
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you can still use the today plug in, but the spb menu won't work
The potrait still wok, but the landscape didn't.
I know it's been mentioned before regarding an incompatibility between SPB Mobile 1.0 and the Ameo, but I thought that this might have been rectified by 1.5.. unfortunately not...
Unless I'm missing a trick that someone else has worked out...??
The application works okay for a while but if I fiddle with the NOW screen too much I end up muting the phone's speaker, regardless on the volume setting... has anyone worked out a way around this?
Also, it has the same glitch that Pocket Plus has where occasionally, but more often than not, if loaded and you soft-reset the device, the device will go into a crazed loop, showing the boot screens, then flashing the today screen (blank) then repeating the boot screens and so on....
jmdrizen said:
I know it's been mentioned before regarding an incompatibility between SPB Mobile 1.0 and the Ameo, but I thought that this might have been rectified by 1.5.. unfortunately not...
Unless I'm missing a trick that someone else has worked out...??
The application works okay for a while but if I fiddle with the NOW screen too much I end up muting the phone's speaker, regardless on the volume setting... has anyone worked out a way around this?
Also, it has the same glitch that Pocket Plus has where occasionally, but more often than not, if loaded and you soft-reset the device, the device will go into a crazed loop, showing the boot screens, then flashing the today screen (blank) then repeating the boot screens and so on....
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That's the exact reason I uninstalled it from 3 devices we have in the family. Not worth purchasing until issues fully resolved.
i have it in spb pocket plus
no probleme over all
i think that there's some problem (i see it when using profiles)
but i don't know if it's spb phone suite that makes it
my X7500 is stable, but i have tu reset it some time ( it freezes using it in differrent cases), but i don't know if it is the x7500 rom or any of my installed software
over all it's like all pocket pc i had , it run very very good at star with no program instaled, then the program you instal, the less stable and slower it become
but what to do ? instal or not instal programs ?
axle7517 said:
i have it in spb pocket plus
no probleme over all
i think that there's some problem (i see it when using profiles)
but i don't know if it's spb phone suite that makes it
my X7500 is stable, but i have tu reset it some time ( it freezes using it in differrent cases), but i don't know if it is the x7500 rom or any of my installed software
over all it's like all pocket pc i had , it run very very good at star with no program instaled, then the program you instal, the less stable and slower it become
but what to do ? instal or not instal programs ?
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Whether you install them or not depends on how valuable the software is to you. To me I would like to have it on there, but I work shifts and sometimes need to get up early hours, without sound on my device I wouldn't hear the alarms.... so can't risk it :-(
"Get an alarm clock"... why should I? It's a feature on the phone, don't buy an all singing all dancing phone then tell it to stop singing :-D
Ive been late for work once because my phone crashed.
I avoid anything that could cause problems on it now!
I agree, you get something that can do everything so you can use it for everything! I like being able to set different alarms on different days, with different sounds etc. Not many alarm clocks are that configurable.
"I agree, you get something that can do everything so you can use it for everything!
"
exactly !!
and X7500 is clearly not very stable (but is it rom or instaled programmes that makes it unstable?)
i had one time the same probleme, with no reason (the x7500 was sleeping in the hall) it freeze/crash at 23h59 !!
???
for chance i had no important appointment this morning !!
so from this day i close all programs , and just let spb alarm
no probleme then
but it's crazy we've got the best device that exists and we can not trust it !!!
talking about spb phone suite, for myself i find it very usefull
(excuse my bad english)
regards
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
Ronv said:
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
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Unfortuantely it's not just SPB Plus, it's also Mobile and a few others in their suite :-(
I have lots of programs installed, but NO today plugins etc. No spb apps, no launchers or Wizbars etc.
Its totally stable like this. It DOES NOT crash.
When I start adding today apps and stuff it starts to crash, even when I started the HTCHomePlug app, the phone kept crashing. Turning that off fixed it.
hard reset, dont install anything, its totally stable.
Pyrofer said:
I have lots of programs installed, but NO today plugins etc. No spb apps, no launchers or Wizbars etc.
Its totally stable like this. It DOES NOT crash.
When I start adding today apps and stuff it starts to crash, even when I started the HTCHomePlug app, the phone kept crashing. Turning that off fixed it.
hard reset, dont install anything, its totally stable.
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I agree with you 100%
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I agree with you 100%
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Yeah, that's true, but I got the item to use it... to me that's like buying a computer, and not installing any applications on it. If I wanted a phone that just called and text I'd get a Nokia. I enjoy the software, and till they produce a more stable ROM will continue to play Russian Roulette PPC style :-D
jmdrizen said:
Yeah, that's true, but I got the item to use it... to me that's like buying a computer, and not installing any applications on it. If I wanted a phone that just called and text I'd get a Nokia. I enjoy the software, and till they produce a more stable ROM will continue to play Russian Roulette PPC style :-D
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i agree with you at 200%
you just said everything that is needing to say about pocket pc
great, thank
I didnt say dont install apps! I install apps on my PPC and PC, they both work.
What I dont do is install hacks that change major operating system features. Like third party skin/launchers ala Wisbar Advance etc.
Im not knocking WA or its ilk, I just think when you start hacking into the os in that way you are bound to sacrifice stability. There is no was the coders can know everything they need to about Windows, MS just wont let them.
If its important to have your phone working 100%, be carefull what you install, same as with a PC. If its THAT important, then by all means get a nokia and a separate PPC.
If your happy with the fact it will crash randomly, then thats fine too.
I mainly brought this up to point out to all the people knocking WM5 and MS for the Windows Mobile OS, its not their fault! its the third party apps making it unstable. The rom, as shipped is solid.
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The rom, as shipped is solid.
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Sorry, but I disagree with this point.
I have had several models of most of T-Mobiles MDA range and two of the Ameo. I've had to return Compact III handsets, which just have factory settings due to ROM stability issues, mainly a crash loop.
You rarely get a ROM that is 100% stable, especially from a UK network provider, due to the provider hitting the point that you quiet rightly stressed, by them adding their third party settings, applications and tweaks.
Most providers want to brand the phone with their identity, which causes instabilities, but these edits are on the shipped ROM release, not something which the typical end user can modify. Bringing me back to my point, the ROM as shipped, is not always great in itself either.
Ronv said:
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
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Ha ha, this goes to show how wierd things could become.
I do not have this problem with SPB plus. It works wonderfully. It has not even once reset in a loop. Stange?? However, when I tried SPB mobile, it did caused very strange behaviour, and I uninstalled it immediately.
I use SPB plus with magic button and they complement each other very nicely. SPB plus lets me lauch all applications from today screen. Once launched, magic button let it stay on the task bar, and I simply click on the task bar to switch between application. It is very stable. I have about 30 different applications installed in my device. All very stable. No issue with SPB pocket plus and can't live without it.
Hi there,
I have a G4 Wizard, T-mobile AKU 3.3 Rom (German version), SIM and CID-Unlocked, O2 Genion Card, several extension.
What I realized, from time to that the today plugins disappear on my fresh hard-reseted wizard.
1st: a hard reset,
2nd: installed claunch or O2 Plus and activated the shortcut plugin,
....
worked with it, some time, then it is going to standby or I switched back to home screen
.....
3rd: after turning it on (or getting back to home screen) it sometimes loosing the shortcut bar. I never recognized it with other plugins.
Going to Settings/Today/Elements the plugin is still activated. Deselecting and selecting it again and pressing "ok" in the upper right corner activates it again?! This is confusing me.
I can't recreate the bug by any action. It happens randomly. But mostly after returning from stand-by.
It happens to fresh hard reseted states as well as when I installed some apps like Homezone,pocket breeze etc.
Is there any known problem like this?
Many thanks in advance.
That, unfortunately, happens a lot, especailly with cLaunch and I don't have the O2 plus plugin so I couldn't tell you if that one does it too. Here's a little app that you put in your windows startup folder that will get it to do it a lot less often hopefully. Ever since I installed it on my phone cLaunch only dissapears about once ever 10 times that I reboot my phone instead of almost every time.
Impressive, that seems to help me.
Thanks bro.
No problem, I know how much of a pain that is.
I have the same problem
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That, unfortunately, happens a lot, especailly with cLaunch and I don't have the O2 plus plugin so I couldn't tell you if that one does it too. Here's a little app that you put in your windows startup folder that will get it to do it a lot less often hopefully. Ever since I installed it on my phone cLaunch only dissapears about once ever 10 times that I reboot my phone instead of almost every time.
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Hi,
I have the same problem as the person you helped with your answer above
I cant download the app you suggested and wondered if you would send it to me?
email address is [email protected]
many thanks