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I have an original ROM O2 (UK) XDA2. Last night, for the first time, I tried the poxy MMS thing. Someone sent me one which worked fine (eventually) and his number came through in the international format, i.e. +447123456789. I clicked reply and sent him a video back. It didn't arrive. (But I bet I still got charged for it :roll: )
When I clicked to reply to the incoming MMS, the number that was in the 'To:' box was 447123456789, in international format, but without the +, similar to what happens when selecting contacts for the SMS 'To:' field. So, I did some experimentation.
I discovered that MMS don't get sent if the phone number doesn't have the leading zero (for the UK market). International-number formats don't work, even if the number has the + at the beginning. So, if someone sends you an MMS and their number comes through in international format, you can't simply reply to it without editing the number to UK format.
Does anyone know whether any work has been done on this issue for the new official ROM update? Either to rework the number so it's correct to the international format, or to allow incorrect numbers to get through the system to the recipient even if it's in international format but without the +?
As far as I recall, numbers sent to sms recipients, keep the + bit in them (this is under the NEW ROM - for the older ROM you have to enter the plus yourself, depending on how you searched and entered the contact).
But for MMS, the + sign seems to be truncated when sending a message (again, this is under the new rom, but I recall this is the case from the older rom too???).
Nevertheless, the message still gets sent with it truncated though.
So if it was still in your Outbox, then the number format is NOT the problem, but a network one instead.
This is confirmable by the fact that if the + sign WAS the problem, the message would STILL have attempted to send, but you would have then got an error message instead.
This strongly leads me to believe that your problem, is a Network or GPRS one.
Certainly NOT a number format issue.
If the numbers are not of the right format, the symptom would manifest itself in the message trying to send, then an error message being shown.
Not what you have.
i did have this problem when replying or selecting a number from contacts to send a message too, it always don't include + sign even if its included in the contacts, the only 2 work arounds i found to solve this problem is either add 00 instead of + for me it was a night mare since all my numbers are stored in international format even local ones for raoming needs so the other option to avoid it is the type the name in the TO field & an auto continue will show you a list of contacts with the matching letters then choose it from their, only then it will send it correctly even it it has +, i think its an RSU issue or maybe Rom country selection issue because i noticed when it fails to send a message it reputs the contry code like the following +44207 wil be something like 44244207 & no matter where i searched to find where the hell it brings this original country code i couldn't find it
Rabia.
The + sign being omitted is a known bug on earlier ROM versions.
The latest ROM fixes this.
But this doesn't have any bearing on the OP's problem, in that for MMS, the software seems to drop the + in the address field anyway, but still manages to get through fine.
And if the problem WAS one of the number format, this would be shown in the form of an error message saying the message could not be delivered.
As the OP is not getting this, and the message seems to be just sitting in his Outbox, I suspect a completely different problem perhaps.
i have worked with operators because of my business nature & from my understanding also that someoperators will recognize the international codes without even 00 or + & some will not so here you go i got multiple problems to contibute in this :shock:
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As the OP is not getting this, and the message seems to be just sitting in his Outbox, I suspect a completely different problem perhaps.
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No no, perhaps I didn't explain properly. As far as the XDA2 is concerned, the message has gone, but it never arrives at the destination. So the network is losing the MMS because it's not properly addressed, but it's only incorrectly addressed because of the MMS software on the XDA2.
Hope that clarifies it.
It would have done mate, were it not for the fact that as far as SMS at least are concerned, if you send a text to a number that is not valid, or incorrectly formed or laid out, you get an error message to tell you, and you say you are not getting an error message.
So let me test this with MMS and get back to you. If it generates an error message, then it shows it is not a number issue.
Er I CAN'T test it as such mate...
Becuase just as I thought, and mentioned in my posts, when I go into the contacts list to choose a recipient for an MMS, they ALL have the + sign removed from them.
My own number shows (changed slightly of course) as:
447866123456;
In the "To Phone" field.
But if I send, it gets through fine. As it does with other numbers.
Which was exactly my point - that with the MMS Software (and this does NOT apply to the SMS application, which is very different), the numbers always have the + sign stripped out of them, but they still send.
So if your numbers appear as 447899123456 etc then if you are in the UK there is no reason why they should not get sent, as I already said based on number format, as this is exactly what happens anyway.
The only thing I can then offer, if you are in the UK, is that you check your regional settings etc on the xda.
Failing that, then maybe its time for that ROM upgrade?
Strange one.
I figured it was a network problem, but wondered whether the source of the problem (i.e. the fact that the MMS Composer application screws up the number for me) had been fixed in the ROM update.
MMS msgs which don't have the + in front of the international code don't get through for me, and I can't send them with the + in front because the MMS Composer app strips it off, even when I add it manually to the number to which I'm replying. So all numbers must be of the national format, i.e. 07123456789 and I can't send MMS abroad.
So, has this 'bug' been fixed in the new ROM update?
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I figured it was a network problem, but wondered whether the source of the problem (i.e. the fact that the MMS Composer application screws up the number for me) had been fixed in the ROM update.
MMS msgs which don't have the + in front of the international code don't get through for me, and I can't send them with the + in front because the MMS Composer app strips it off, even when I add it manually to the number to which I'm replying. So all numbers must be of the national format, i.e. 07123456789 and I can't send MMS abroad.
So, has this 'bug' been fixed in the new ROM update?
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NO mate - because as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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...as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
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Please put your arrogance to one side for a moment, and stop SHOUTING certain words at me. There is a bug. The MMS software removes the + from the number for international-format numbers, even if I type it in manually to the number before sending. This is a bug. OK? :roll:
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Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
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I don't care about this. My testing has revealed one simple fact, as I keep trying to explain: when the phone number is in UK-format, with a leading zero, my MMS get through. When it's in a broken international number format, they don't. I want the software to send them with a correct international-format number so that they work. Thus, my question is: has the bug in the MMS Composer software which strips the + from international numbers been fixed with the new ROM update? (If you read above, you'll notice that this was the question I first asked... :roll: )
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Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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Yes, but according to your profile, you're with Orange. I'm with O2, and they don't work. No error messages, no failure reports, nothing. Just silence. Can you please just believe me, or do you want to come to my house and I'll demonstrate to you?
I appreciate your attempts to help, but if I had wanted someone to treat me like an idiot I'd have asked for that. OK?
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Shadamehr said:
...as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
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Please put your arrogance to one side for a moment, and stop SHOUTING certain words at me. There is a bug. The MMS software removes the + from the number for international-format numbers, even if I type it in manually to the number before sending. This is a bug. OK? :roll:
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I'm SHOUTING cos you keep missing it. And now for the FOURTH time - it is NOT a BUG per se - got that - I'll say it again - NOT a bug per se, because having looked on a friend's XDA2, it does this for ALL, and yet works on his too. I'm sorry for shouting. If you LISTEN however, I can refrain from shouting. Let me be absolutely utterly and abundantly clear - I have no doubt you have a clear issue. What I am SHOUTING, and yet you keep ignoring, is that I am trying to tell you that the MMS Composer stripping the + sign out, is NOT the answer to your problems alone. Can I make that any clearer?
Shadamehr said:
Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
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I don't care about this. My testing has revealed one simple fact, as I keep trying to explain: when the phone number is in UK-format, with a leading zero, my MMS get through. When it's in a broken international number format, they don't. I want the software to send them with a correct international-format number so that they work. Thus, my question is: has the bug in the MMS Composer software which strips the + from international numbers been fixed with the new ROM update? (If you read above, you'll notice that this was the question I first asked... :roll: )
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I DID notice it first time. You just didn't seem to see my answer for the THIRD time. Let me go one bette for you, I cannot answer the question as you phrase it, because, as I have said, it is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a bug, so how can I say if a bug has been fixed, if it is not a bug? Moreover, never mind the ROM update, I have downloaded and installed version 1.6.0.9 of the Arcsoft MMS software, and this is still there BY DESIGN - the ROM Update version is only to 1.6.0.8 - so TWO version updates do not alter this behaviour - which I would have expected if this was a bug.
(And as an aside, if you want me to send you a copy of the latest version, even newer that the ROM Update one, I happily will)
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Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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sublimatica said:
Yes, but according to your profile, you're with Orange. I'm with O2, and they don't work. No error messages, no failure reports, nothing. Just silence. Can you please just believe me, or do you want to come to my house and I'll demonstrate to you?
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I have an O2 SIM too, or in between your attempts to keep correcting me, did you not think I would try it? And as I also indicated, my mate has an O2 XDA2, and his works too. Not sure his ROM version though.
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I appreciate your attempts to help, but if I had wanted someone to treat me like an idiot I'd have asked for that. OK?
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When people keep constantly ignoring what people are pointing out to them, and better yet, even criticising them for SHOUTING becuase they are still being ignored, I COULD offer that tis is indeed exactly what you have asked for.
But in actual fact, i am very keen to try and help you, so I won't stoop down.
Once again, not knowing if you have already checked or not, can I suggest you check your regional settings.
Also, something else I noticed, is that using Outlook 2003, if I enter a number on the phone, the way I used to do it was like:
+44 191 460 1234 (for landline numbers with the gaps in just as you see them)
And +44 7899 123 456 for mobile numbers, again with the gaps just as you see them.
This nevertheless, still worked fine for SMS, and MMS.
Now that my trial of Outlook 2003 has ended, and I have re-installed Outlook XP, the earlier version, I now find, no matter what I do, that if I enter a number in the manner I prefer as above, onto the phone, when it syncs with Outlook, they appear as 44 (191) 460 1234 or 44 7899 123 456 in Outlook, and the same when sync'ed back to the phone, yet they still work.
Let me be absolutely clear however, the single only purpose for my post, which, in effect I am now saying for the fifth time, is that to the very best of my knowledge, and despite what you repeatedly think, and as backed up by testing with my O2 sim, and on a friend's phone, that as far as ArcSoft MMS composer is concerned, the appearance of numbers in the program's contacts list with the leading + stripped, whilst looking problematic, is actually NOT a bug, and for the rest of us, seems to work fine regardless.
I say nothing more than that.
Forget it. Can't even be bothered to read all that arrogance.
Do these forums have an ignore function?
Right then. Let me summarise, if only to give you an opportunity to shout at me again (even though I've been listening carefully all the way through this painful process). (I hope you're not a teacher.)
When I create an MMS using a number in the international format with a + at the beginning, the MMS Composer helpfully removes the + from the front of the number when I click to send it.
This 'special behaviour' of MMS Composer in stripping out the + symbol is not a bug. I'm not sure what one should call this, but you are absolutely clear that it's not a bug. It must be by design, huh? (Why would they design it this way, I wonder?)
Anyway, MMS messages sent by me in this way don't arrive at the destination. I get no error messages. As far as my machine is concerned, they have gone.
When you do the same thing, your messages get through.
You can't tell me why, or offer any useful suggestions for circumventing this problem. You can only keep repeating that I don't have a problem, this is a network feature, and that you're bored of telling me this.
Well thanks for your contributions.
Can anyone else help me with something useful?
(Shadamehr - keep quiet here. I don't need any more input from you right now.)
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Right then. Let me summarise, if only to give you an opportunity to shout at me again (even though I've been listening carefully all the way through this painful process). (I hope you're not a teacher.)
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You may have been listening - it's hellish clear you haven't been taking it in though.
sublimatica said:
When I create an MMS using a number in the international format with a + at the beginning, the MMS Composer helpfully removes the + from the front of the number when I click to send it.
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Yes
sublimatica said:
This 'special behaviour' of MMS Composer in stripping out the + symbol is not a bug. I'm not sure what one should call this, but you are absolutely clear that it's not a bug. It must be by design, huh? (Why would they design it this way, I wonder?)
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No idea, and I fully concur its daft - never once argued with you there.
sublimatica said:
Anyway, MMS messages sent by me in this way don't arrive at the destination. I get no error messages. As far as my machine is concerned, they have gone.
When you do the same thing, your messages get through.
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Yes - exactly so.
sublimatica said:
You can't tell me why, or offer any useful suggestions for circumventing this problem. You can only keep repeating that I don't have a problem, this is a network feature, and that you're bored of telling me this.
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Completely untrue you arrogant idiot - if nothing else I have indicated regional settings on the xda2 as one area to investigate, and written at length about the strange behaviour different from Outlook 2002/XP to Outlook 2003 - your arrogance and sheer falsitudes seem to know no bounds. It might not have been much, but it was a clear attempt to try to help. For Christ's sake, you'd think I was getting PAID for trying to help you, and not giving up of my time and effort for free to seek to help a fellow user.
Like I said, you arrogant swine - are you for real? And where the hell did I say you don't have a problem? You have an absolutely genuine one. All I ever said was that the MMS software stripping the + out is not the be all and end all cause of your problems. A fact which still holds true, and in its very own right is a VERY helpful piece of advice or information for you.
I am trying to tell you that what you see happen in terms of the MMS software stripping out the + sign is a situation that seems inherint for all UK users, and yet doesn't stop other people sending.
How the hell can you overlook that key fact, and tell me it's not an important piece of information for you or again overlook the fact that I am TRYING to help you?
On the contrary, I mentioned this way back in my first attempt to help you, but you completely overlooked it, and now have dug a fairly large hole for yourself, now that this fact is starting to sink in with you.
But instead of letting me take the shovel off you, and instead give you a (freely profered) helping hand out of the hole, you can do nothing but attack me, for trying to help you, and dig that hole much deeper for yourself.
I have done nothing but try and help, came out with a key piece of information, and came back time and time again to try and help more, and all you can do is treat me like cr*p. ? ? ? ! ! !
Well bonny lad, frankly, you are the biggest t*sser I have had the misfortune to come across, and if you think I'll hang around here for you to attack me more when I repeatedly give up my time to try and HELP you, you really do have another thing coming.
You can well and truly go to hell mate.
You sad sad soul
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Well thanks for your contributions.
Can anyone else help me with something useful?
(Shadamehr - keep quiet here. I don't need any more input from you right now.)
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Who the hell do you thnk you are to tell me that?
My advice to any would be helper to you now would be:
"Don't bother - you'll make time and effort to try and help him, and he'll treat you like a piece of cr*p for your reward"
Honestly - what colour is the sky on the planet where you live?
Get a life, and then look back at this event in embarresment. You should hang your head in shame.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, I didn't actually need any more input from you, Shademehr, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
Sensible suggestions from knowledgeable users on ways to solve my MMS problems (as opposed to just telling me the problem is unique and vaguely waving me in the direction of regional settings :roll: ) are still welcome - thanks in advance.
sublimatica said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, I didn't actually need any more input from you, Shademehr, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
Sensible suggestions from knowledgeable users on ways to solve my MMS problems (as opposed to just telling me the problem is unique and vaguely waving me in the direction of regional settings :roll: ) are still welcome - thanks in advance.
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You utterly arrogant moronic b*stard.
I've spent god only knows how long trying to help you, and offering to send you updated versions of the software to try out and see if that helps, and all you can do is take the p*ss and find it funny and say what a LAUGH it has been for you?
And then ask if ANYONE ELSE wants to try and help you too?
You think they want the p*ss taken out of them once they have spent ages trying to help you too?
Your not of this planet sunshine.
Thanks for the message saying "thanks for all the time you spent trying to help me shadamehr".
As if.
You f*cking d*ckhead - what an ungrateful arrogant b*stard.
Good luck. You're gonna need it.
mms problems
i am frightened to say this now, but..... i appear to have the same problem, the msg appears to leave me ok, it just never arrives. i havent managed to send any mms for the past month - 6 weeks since i changed from Nokia 6600 to XDA II.
Please don't be frightened, David - I'm not that bad, honest! :lol:
I discovered while testing again the other day that SMS messages don't get through for me either unless the number is perfectly correct (i.e. with the + included if in international format), so what I'm experiencing isn't limited to MMS. I guess it must be a network limitation.
I'm sure that other people reported that SMS do get through without the + attached when this bug first came to light last year. At least with SMS I get a warning that the message couldn't be sent.
I rarely close threads, but this one is closed.
I'm very busy this weekend, and have no time to read this whole thread to see who did what to whom.
Past experience has shown that text-based forums are not a good place to express feelings of anger and frustration. Please all realise that no matter how well we're doing presently, a community such as this is always more brittle and fragile than you'd expect.
Love, Peace & Happyness,
Peter
( dig it! dig it! )
I am pasting the question from another forum which interests me as well…
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"Hi all,
when sending sms and you set the setting for ask for delivery notice on you get back the delivery notice but it will only show you the number not the Name.
This is very annoying when you are sending sms to many contacts.
Is there a work around that?. I contacted the poor online support of Imate and one "not-so-tactful" support lady said "this is what it suppose to do" and they cut me off even before asking my next question to them.
what a shame i-mate has such a poor online support."
Unfortunately I don't think there is. The delivery report comes back from the networks servers with the persons mobile number only. The contact name for that number is stored locally on your phone handset only. What you need is a program that can scan received delivery reports, pull out the number and match it to your contacts database. Far too long winded.
Such a function would probably only benefit someone sending one sms to multiple contacts, then waiting to see who actually received it, so probably not considered by any software developers.
never the less, it is still a shortcoming of the Windows Mobile software, as all nokia phones old and new (even the ancient 8210), and sony ericsson phones can do this!
If anybody is still trying to find the solution for this... here it is...
http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/index.html
SMS Delivery Receipt Fix
zormic said:
If anybody is still trying to find the solution for this... here it is...
http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/index.html
SMS Delivery Receipt Fix
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Perhaps it's me being dumb, but I couldn't locate a download link on the site.
Dear astage,
Everything is there for you to download. Just click the menu of the left and it will give you the download link. A very staright forward link. Just try it again and don't forget to post your finding.
Regards,
morisa
Depends on your browser I guess... You can get it here, too.
www.freewareppc.com/communication/smsdeliveryreceiptfix.shtml
i have attached it since the original link is not accessible
damn i didnt realize i bumped the post
sory mods please delete it
Ok before i used a program like SPB Phone Suite to block phonecalls my question is, Can we block SMS texts from single users ? i would like to be able to block texts and phonecalls from certain people. Is there a way i can add a filter like the filters you find for file types? last resort is getting another huge program like and of the SPB software.
I'm also interested in a feature like this. Quite a few annoying ex-girlfriends that like to text me randomly for no apparent reason.
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I'm also interested in a feature like this. Quite a few annoying ex-girlfriends that like to text me randomly for no apparent reason.
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exactly my point i have the same problem or friends who dont get the hint.
T-Mobile says no
According to T-mobile, there is no way to selectively block SMS messages. This is especially troublesome, given that advertisers (and others I don't care for) are starting to send messages to T-Mo phones using SMS (they know they can't be blocked) and I have to pay for them!
Check out the link in my signature for sms and call filter.
psyop1 said:
According to T-mobile, there is no way to selectively block SMS messages. This is especially troublesome, given that advertisers (and others I don't care for) are starting to send messages to T-Mo phones using SMS (they know they can't be blocked) and I have to pay for them!
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All you have to do (to stop advertising) is reply with: Stop
If you are in the USA:
By law, advertisers have to cease and desist all communications when you tell them to stop. If they don't, its considered harassment and you can file a complaint with the FTC or even sue the company for harassment.
I know this because I was being harassed by an advertiser and I had to file a complaint.
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Check out the link in my signature for sms and call filter.
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all it took me to was a make money page sure theres talk of sms blockers etc but the link is a get paid online no download newhere
Reply with STOP didnt seem working to me, those advertising still do come.... and that is costing me $$. And the bad thing is - you don't even know who are they, the caller is show 3700 3701 3702 etc ....
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Reply with STOP didnt seem working to me, those advertising still do come.... and that is costing me $$. And the bad thing is - you don't even know who are they, the caller is show 3700 3701 3702 etc ....
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mail me you can ask tmobile to block certain numbers. But i am looking for a phone based application to block sms and calls or hide them and reply with a sms like blocked... that you can selectivly block or unblock. So the sms's will still come just not show. i have unlimited texts so its not a matter of getting the texts i just dont want to be annoyed or called by these people.
lol well if somebody with any knowledge on how to surpress phone calls and or sms/mms's know how to do this maybe they can make a freeware app.... spb phone suite was ok but it is large and alot of the time causes phones to go into a boot loop if you dont remove your memory card.
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I'm also interested in a feature like this. Quite a few annoying ex-girlfriends that like to text me randomly for no apparent reason.
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I found this program it allows to blacklist SMS messages i have not tried put it to use by actually knowing if it works but there is a blacklist feature in it. By category, individual contact, and phone number. For those who are trying to stop getting texts from certain numbers ie 4-5 digit spammers you can infact call tmobile and have a number blocked. i have a family plan and my brother kept texting without a text plan i asked if you can block texts all together and CS said no they can halt from single numbers.
Also once again thanks to all the senior members for all of their help *sarcastic laugh*
Also this allows for exporting and many other features if you view the website of the maker it has SS's
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all it took me to was a make money page sure theres talk of sms blockers etc but the link is a get paid online no download newhere
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http://www.logic-unlimited.com/callfirewall.php
scroll to the end of the page and download for free.
thank you. ill give it a try when i get home
you guys are so popular with all ur ex crazies after you...
I may not be as popular as you, but whenever this has occured to me, i've just not responded and eventually they would get bored and stop bothering me.
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http://www.logic-unlimited.com/callfirewall.php
scroll to the end of the page and download for free.
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i was going to suggest this. love the app! i just wish it was able to do it without being loaded..but it works so thats what matters!
MAGICALL
Call firewall is ok, but I like magicall myself. You can black specific phone numbers/SMS. Also you can have the program auto respond via sms and you can set it up to ignore/hang up/pick up and hang up on certain numbers. Overall GREAT program.
this should help a bit
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Ok before i used a program like SPB Phone Suite to block phonecalls my question is, Can we block SMS texts from single users ? i would like to be able to block texts and phonecalls from certain people. Is there a way i can add a filter like the filters you find for file types? last resort is getting another huge program like and of the SPB software.
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was going to post the link, but i see now that i was beaten to it
psyop1 said:
According to T-mobile, there is no way to selectively block SMS messages. This is especially troublesome, given that advertisers (and others I don't care for) are starting to send messages to T-Mo phones using SMS (they know they can't be blocked) and I have to pay for them!
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do you remeber the days when text messaging was free? my nokia brick was my texting machine back in those days lol, and then it was incoming texts free and you only get charged per outgoing, now tmo and everyone else just charges u for whatever packet goes in and out of your phone these days. since pocket pc's and smartphones are running windows mobile it can intercept calls before it gets to the dialer and intercept texts before it gets into the box, all it does it save you the annoyance of "seeing" the calls come in and will hit ignore for you same with text, but i think you still get charged per incoming text even if sms filter stops it on the phone.
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I found this program it allows to blacklist SMS messages i have not tried put it to use by actually knowing if it works but there is a blacklist feature in it. By category, individual contact, and phone number. For those who are trying to stop getting texts from certain numbers ie 4-5 digit spammers you can infact call tmobile and have a number blocked. i have a family plan and my brother kept texting without a text plan i asked if you can block texts all together and CS said no they can halt from single numbers.
Also once again thanks to all the senior members for all of their help *sarcastic laugh*
Also this allows for exporting and many other features if you view the website of the maker it has SS's
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that not working with 6.1 :-(
duprade said:
you guys are so popular with all ur ex crazies after you...
I may not be as popular as you, but whenever this has occured to me, i've just not responded and eventually they would get bored and stop bothering me.
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hahah maybe there's diff reason ! for me I dont want number 1 through whatever to text me or call while I'm with number whatever . so gotto keep game on downlow.. chicks like tree if you dont put stick into it in the begining . it'll be all over ! so why not.. this seems to be american game right?
bad situation: Sweetheart erroneously receives an SMS from you that was meant for Honey.
solution: Read and re-read your messages before sending them, and verify that you arre sending to the right person before pressing SEND, but we are only HUMAN, and we make mistakes.
software to the rescue: A SMS editor program that FILTERS your messages and decides wether your message is really meant for the person you are sending the message to.
how?: you assign keywords to contacts and it is saved in a database that the program accesses, for example, you blacklist the words "honey" and "baby" from messages you send to SWEETHEART, so the database will look like this:
Sweetheart-(Blacklist: honey, baby)
Honey-(Blacklist: sweetheart,baby)
Baby-(Blacklist: sweetheart,honey)
so when you type the message "Goodnight Honey" then SEND to SWEETHEART, the program evaluates that this message should not be sent to SWEETHEART and WARNS YOU and DOES NOT PROCEED to SEND the message, but if the message is "Goodnight Sweetheart" and to be sent to SWEETHEART, the program evaluate it as valid, then proceeds to SEND the MESSAGE to TMAIL.EXE (the REAL SMS program for final sending)
objective of this program: WORLD PEACE, actually just peaceful and harmonious living, hahaha. because wrong sending of message is eliminated.
other uses of this program?: you can blacklist the word "FAT" from being sent to your very fat friend, because he feels insulted by the word, or you can blacklist "PORK or PIG" to other people who might feel offended by this word.
Men and Women alike would like this program, although some would not admit it, they would really find a program like this very useful. hehehe.
So now the question: Can some programmer do this pls?
I can do programming for PC, but i havent done Pocket PC programming, i think all this program is an INTERFACE with the user by providing TEXT EDITOR, the evaulates the TEXT, then PASS the information to TMAIL.EXE.
CAN SOMEONE DO THIS?
thanks
reserved for flowchart....to help programmer if there are any takers...
Should be possible... I'll be happy to take a look when i have some time..
But ... i'm pretty curious what "inspired" this idea
nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
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nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
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haha lol
The strange thing is my girl also looked through my messages the day before
I wrote that application... so it was also a bit of personal gain
This is what i whipped up, please note the sending is not working yet...
give it a go and let me know what you think...
to begin click on menu>app. options>import contacts
rescan when the table is filled hit OK
Next manage blacklist
select the name from the dropdown list, add the blacklisted words
for testing i used pizza, banaan (its dutch)
thats also why there is already some text entered in the message are
(i forgot to remove it when i compiled the app )
Once the blacklist is updated hit save and close
in option screen click save
go to menu>add recipient and select the one you've just updated the blacklist for, next write a text, with or without those words and see what happens.
From the testing i did the logic seems to work...
please note, the blacklisted words need to be written without spaces and seperated by a comma
e.g. hello,mikey,banana
also Pizza is not the same as pizza...
let me know what you think..
On a sidenote, the application also needs a name
i was thinking along the lines of
- Stupid Me (what you usually think after sending the wrong person an sms)
- doh! (tribute to Homer )
- LifeSaver
- LoveSaver
- SMSLifeLine
but if you have a better idea please let me know
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will test it, LIFESAVER could be a good name, but it what it does is save my ARSE really, hehehehe.
what i usually think after sending to the wrong person? "OMIGOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!" then comes the cold sweat, then the customary call from the recepient then 2 days of explaining, hehehe.
what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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Thought about it, but i think it would be easier just to write the 2 versions,
currently the application checks for the word, if it doesn't find it it checks both <word>, and <word>.
another problem is that I have the program check <space><word><space>
(thats why there cannot be any spaces in the blacklist)
the reason is that if the blacklisted word is Piano and the spaces aren't there it would flag Pianoman as a blacklisted word
youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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not yet, hopefully tomorrow
will be waiting thanks, by the way, what proggy are you using to make this software?
New version, should be working (e.g. sending stuff)
thanks, will be testing this as soon as i find a way to get this on my SD card or phone, im at my work pc and all my tools are left at home. eg. sync cable, bluetooth, card reader, wlan card.
Did you find the time to check it?
yup tested it,
first test, import contacts then manage blacklist - done
insert recipient - done
typed text without a blacklist word - done
send - wont send, send button just reacts but it doesnt do anything.
typed text with a blacklisted word - done
send -no reaction, no sending or warning, button just reacts but doesnt do anything.
thats the result of my test mr. gee. thanks.
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now this is funny, i thought nothing was done when i press send, but BOTH messages with blacklisted word and not were sent to the FIRST person on the contacts list. hehehe. talk about preventing sending to the wrong person, no harm done, but funny.
the first person in my contacts list replied to me with both text that i sent that was supposed to be for an intended recipient. the texts were intended for a person 'L' but was received by the person 'A'.
great idea
sounds very interesting ... but is there a programm for filtering/screening incoming messages aswell?
e.g. you recieve a message from a special person and you don´t want that s.o. hears it but all the other recieved message should ring as usual ...
for incoming filtering, i think there is a program for that already.
check link: http://www.zedsoft.net/
but for outgoing filtering, this is the current idea so far.
thanks for testing Paul,
I'll take a look at the application, not sure whare the issue is..
This is really good idea.... Keep up the good work
I remember that I was out for work and than I sent SMS like: I was cool, thanks.... to my girlfriend (doh!)... And real trouble started
Hi,
I have a T650i and I would like to transfer my SMS from that phone to my Xperia X1.
I've seen many threads explaining how to transfer contacts from older SE-phones, but nothing about SMS. Can it be done? I used to do use MyPhoneExplorer, but since it doesn't support WM, it's not an option anymore.
Thanks
save them to your SIM if possible!?
i remmeber older phones saving SMS on the simcard only. not sure if a winmo phone can use these
Thanks, but the problem is that I have around 900 SMS and the sim only accepts 30.
Is there any other way to do it through the PC?
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
u should to an T650i forum and ask there. once u manage to squeeze te SMS into outlook somehow, u can probably just sync them
achmed20 said:
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
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I write approx. 900 SMS each month and the same amount I get back. But therefore I have hardly any calls. Good for me that I've got a SMS-flatrate
According the problem:
In which file format does myphoneexplorer save the transferred SMS? It has to be possible to convert these to a usable format. Maybe it would be enough to have all the SMS as a text-file on your X1 so you can read through if needed?
I have problems with the X1 everytime I have that much SMS stored (messaging software does not open, it does not respond to key presses and so on)
MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in many formats: txt, csv, xml, html, right click and export.
I used MyPhoneExplorer to backup sms's on my K800i, i have every single sms i ever received in the K800's lifetime (2 years).
And while in this subject, i'll ask the following question:
Is there in WinMo a way to backup sms like i already do with with K800 and MyPhoneExplorer? a way to backup the sms's and save them to the computer in some readable format?
Since MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in txt, csv, xml, html, is there any way of transfering them (as sms, NOT as a text file) to the same sms inbox on the X1?
Try SMSimport. It's a freeware that imports and exports in XML. It's a simple exe that you run directly on the phone.
http://wince.nasenbaeren.net/smsimport/
You may have to edit the names of the folders in the XML to make it compatible with your X1.
You can just make an export file from it first to see the XML import structure.
Hi. I'm new to this community and I'm very impressed. Congrats
I've tried once to import SMS via SMSImport, but it always said 'Invalid XML' or sth. like that although I rearranged the order in the XML as SMSImport seemed to want it.
Has anybody solved this issue?
THX
I use OEExport. It exports to Outlook Express with the folders intact (Inbox, Deleted, Sent etc). It has an option to export to xml too, IIRC.
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My question, is why on earth would anyone need to keep all those SMS?
I mean, unless your girlfriend doesn't tell you she loves you enough and you need to keep the texts, or if youre keeping them for evidence (for some reason) or maybe if you have a friend like I do who gets sent joke SMSs and decides to forward 700 of them to you when he's on flatrate weekend SMS just to piss you off because your phone becomes unusable for pretty much the entire weekend.
Please enlighten me.
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
0_o
maedox said:
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
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Nope, it seems it's still beyond all comprehension of mine. Do you guys also record all voice conversations you make?
I mean, keeping your text messages is hardly like keeping a box of love letters or something now is it?
I'm as much as cyborg as the next guy, I am so electronically inclined that the gadgets I carry and use will probably fuse to me one day anyway, BUT i just don't find anything anyone has to say to me by text _that_ interesting or _that_ important
I'm not taking a swing at you guys or anything, I just really would like to understand, I'm a happier person when i understand things.
Like, ok, I keep the odd text message about things people have said to me, because theyre just downright fantastic for my street cred (if you know what I mean) but that's simply because some of it is just so good, nobody would believe me if i just told them myself, even if i quoted it word for word.
I'm with you. I usually don't need to think twice about throwing away messages when doing a hard reset. Although, as you say, there are some that need to be kept safe forever.
But this is not what the topic's about.
O.k. guys, I'm convinced now. I won't spend any minute anymore in thinking about how to transfer my SMS back. 99% of all that stuff I would rather likely never need again in the future and if I really need it, it is still on my PC.
Nevertheless - thank you!
Greetz
Why backup sms ?
Some of my SMS contain info I need, I am just too lazy to save it when I get it - like an address, or rocket launch code just plain I like to have my SMS conversations available to refresh my memory in case I need it.
From time to time I want to do upgrade or other destructive thing and I don't want to loose my messages. I would like to keep a copy of all my SMS in outlook 2007 but my cheapskate uprising and empty wallet steer me out of paid software, I am going to try programs mentioned in previous posts but if someone knows about some great synchronization or transfer or WhateverYouCallIt software please keep us informed about it.
Thank you all for great site.
i think MOBILedit works for you.
google it for the main website.
hope it helped