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I have an original ROM O2 (UK) XDA2. Last night, for the first time, I tried the poxy MMS thing. Someone sent me one which worked fine (eventually) and his number came through in the international format, i.e. +447123456789. I clicked reply and sent him a video back. It didn't arrive. (But I bet I still got charged for it :roll: )
When I clicked to reply to the incoming MMS, the number that was in the 'To:' box was 447123456789, in international format, but without the +, similar to what happens when selecting contacts for the SMS 'To:' field. So, I did some experimentation.
I discovered that MMS don't get sent if the phone number doesn't have the leading zero (for the UK market). International-number formats don't work, even if the number has the + at the beginning. So, if someone sends you an MMS and their number comes through in international format, you can't simply reply to it without editing the number to UK format.
Does anyone know whether any work has been done on this issue for the new official ROM update? Either to rework the number so it's correct to the international format, or to allow incorrect numbers to get through the system to the recipient even if it's in international format but without the +?
As far as I recall, numbers sent to sms recipients, keep the + bit in them (this is under the NEW ROM - for the older ROM you have to enter the plus yourself, depending on how you searched and entered the contact).
But for MMS, the + sign seems to be truncated when sending a message (again, this is under the new rom, but I recall this is the case from the older rom too???).
Nevertheless, the message still gets sent with it truncated though.
So if it was still in your Outbox, then the number format is NOT the problem, but a network one instead.
This is confirmable by the fact that if the + sign WAS the problem, the message would STILL have attempted to send, but you would have then got an error message instead.
This strongly leads me to believe that your problem, is a Network or GPRS one.
Certainly NOT a number format issue.
If the numbers are not of the right format, the symptom would manifest itself in the message trying to send, then an error message being shown.
Not what you have.
i did have this problem when replying or selecting a number from contacts to send a message too, it always don't include + sign even if its included in the contacts, the only 2 work arounds i found to solve this problem is either add 00 instead of + for me it was a night mare since all my numbers are stored in international format even local ones for raoming needs so the other option to avoid it is the type the name in the TO field & an auto continue will show you a list of contacts with the matching letters then choose it from their, only then it will send it correctly even it it has +, i think its an RSU issue or maybe Rom country selection issue because i noticed when it fails to send a message it reputs the contry code like the following +44207 wil be something like 44244207 & no matter where i searched to find where the hell it brings this original country code i couldn't find it
Rabia.
The + sign being omitted is a known bug on earlier ROM versions.
The latest ROM fixes this.
But this doesn't have any bearing on the OP's problem, in that for MMS, the software seems to drop the + in the address field anyway, but still manages to get through fine.
And if the problem WAS one of the number format, this would be shown in the form of an error message saying the message could not be delivered.
As the OP is not getting this, and the message seems to be just sitting in his Outbox, I suspect a completely different problem perhaps.
i have worked with operators because of my business nature & from my understanding also that someoperators will recognize the international codes without even 00 or + & some will not so here you go i got multiple problems to contibute in this :shock:
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As the OP is not getting this, and the message seems to be just sitting in his Outbox, I suspect a completely different problem perhaps.
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No no, perhaps I didn't explain properly. As far as the XDA2 is concerned, the message has gone, but it never arrives at the destination. So the network is losing the MMS because it's not properly addressed, but it's only incorrectly addressed because of the MMS software on the XDA2.
Hope that clarifies it.
It would have done mate, were it not for the fact that as far as SMS at least are concerned, if you send a text to a number that is not valid, or incorrectly formed or laid out, you get an error message to tell you, and you say you are not getting an error message.
So let me test this with MMS and get back to you. If it generates an error message, then it shows it is not a number issue.
Er I CAN'T test it as such mate...
Becuase just as I thought, and mentioned in my posts, when I go into the contacts list to choose a recipient for an MMS, they ALL have the + sign removed from them.
My own number shows (changed slightly of course) as:
447866123456;
In the "To Phone" field.
But if I send, it gets through fine. As it does with other numbers.
Which was exactly my point - that with the MMS Software (and this does NOT apply to the SMS application, which is very different), the numbers always have the + sign stripped out of them, but they still send.
So if your numbers appear as 447899123456 etc then if you are in the UK there is no reason why they should not get sent, as I already said based on number format, as this is exactly what happens anyway.
The only thing I can then offer, if you are in the UK, is that you check your regional settings etc on the xda.
Failing that, then maybe its time for that ROM upgrade?
Strange one.
I figured it was a network problem, but wondered whether the source of the problem (i.e. the fact that the MMS Composer application screws up the number for me) had been fixed in the ROM update.
MMS msgs which don't have the + in front of the international code don't get through for me, and I can't send them with the + in front because the MMS Composer app strips it off, even when I add it manually to the number to which I'm replying. So all numbers must be of the national format, i.e. 07123456789 and I can't send MMS abroad.
So, has this 'bug' been fixed in the new ROM update?
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I figured it was a network problem, but wondered whether the source of the problem (i.e. the fact that the MMS Composer application screws up the number for me) had been fixed in the ROM update.
MMS msgs which don't have the + in front of the international code don't get through for me, and I can't send them with the + in front because the MMS Composer app strips it off, even when I add it manually to the number to which I'm replying. So all numbers must be of the national format, i.e. 07123456789 and I can't send MMS abroad.
So, has this 'bug' been fixed in the new ROM update?
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NO mate - because as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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...as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
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Please put your arrogance to one side for a moment, and stop SHOUTING certain words at me. There is a bug. The MMS software removes the + from the number for international-format numbers, even if I type it in manually to the number before sending. This is a bug. OK? :roll:
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Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
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I don't care about this. My testing has revealed one simple fact, as I keep trying to explain: when the phone number is in UK-format, with a leading zero, my MMS get through. When it's in a broken international number format, they don't. I want the software to send them with a correct international-format number so that they work. Thus, my question is: has the bug in the MMS Composer software which strips the + from international numbers been fixed with the new ROM update? (If you read above, you'll notice that this was the question I first asked... :roll: )
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Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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Yes, but according to your profile, you're with Orange. I'm with O2, and they don't work. No error messages, no failure reports, nothing. Just silence. Can you please just believe me, or do you want to come to my house and I'll demonstrate to you?
I appreciate your attempts to help, but if I had wanted someone to treat me like an idiot I'd have asked for that. OK?
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Shadamehr said:
...as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
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Please put your arrogance to one side for a moment, and stop SHOUTING certain words at me. There is a bug. The MMS software removes the + from the number for international-format numbers, even if I type it in manually to the number before sending. This is a bug. OK? :roll:
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I'm SHOUTING cos you keep missing it. And now for the FOURTH time - it is NOT a BUG per se - got that - I'll say it again - NOT a bug per se, because having looked on a friend's XDA2, it does this for ALL, and yet works on his too. I'm sorry for shouting. If you LISTEN however, I can refrain from shouting. Let me be absolutely utterly and abundantly clear - I have no doubt you have a clear issue. What I am SHOUTING, and yet you keep ignoring, is that I am trying to tell you that the MMS Composer stripping the + sign out, is NOT the answer to your problems alone. Can I make that any clearer?
Shadamehr said:
Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
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I don't care about this. My testing has revealed one simple fact, as I keep trying to explain: when the phone number is in UK-format, with a leading zero, my MMS get through. When it's in a broken international number format, they don't. I want the software to send them with a correct international-format number so that they work. Thus, my question is: has the bug in the MMS Composer software which strips the + from international numbers been fixed with the new ROM update? (If you read above, you'll notice that this was the question I first asked... :roll: )
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I DID notice it first time. You just didn't seem to see my answer for the THIRD time. Let me go one bette for you, I cannot answer the question as you phrase it, because, as I have said, it is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a bug, so how can I say if a bug has been fixed, if it is not a bug? Moreover, never mind the ROM update, I have downloaded and installed version 1.6.0.9 of the Arcsoft MMS software, and this is still there BY DESIGN - the ROM Update version is only to 1.6.0.8 - so TWO version updates do not alter this behaviour - which I would have expected if this was a bug.
(And as an aside, if you want me to send you a copy of the latest version, even newer that the ROM Update one, I happily will)
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Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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Yes, but according to your profile, you're with Orange. I'm with O2, and they don't work. No error messages, no failure reports, nothing. Just silence. Can you please just believe me, or do you want to come to my house and I'll demonstrate to you?
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I have an O2 SIM too, or in between your attempts to keep correcting me, did you not think I would try it? And as I also indicated, my mate has an O2 XDA2, and his works too. Not sure his ROM version though.
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I appreciate your attempts to help, but if I had wanted someone to treat me like an idiot I'd have asked for that. OK?
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When people keep constantly ignoring what people are pointing out to them, and better yet, even criticising them for SHOUTING becuase they are still being ignored, I COULD offer that tis is indeed exactly what you have asked for.
But in actual fact, i am very keen to try and help you, so I won't stoop down.
Once again, not knowing if you have already checked or not, can I suggest you check your regional settings.
Also, something else I noticed, is that using Outlook 2003, if I enter a number on the phone, the way I used to do it was like:
+44 191 460 1234 (for landline numbers with the gaps in just as you see them)
And +44 7899 123 456 for mobile numbers, again with the gaps just as you see them.
This nevertheless, still worked fine for SMS, and MMS.
Now that my trial of Outlook 2003 has ended, and I have re-installed Outlook XP, the earlier version, I now find, no matter what I do, that if I enter a number in the manner I prefer as above, onto the phone, when it syncs with Outlook, they appear as 44 (191) 460 1234 or 44 7899 123 456 in Outlook, and the same when sync'ed back to the phone, yet they still work.
Let me be absolutely clear however, the single only purpose for my post, which, in effect I am now saying for the fifth time, is that to the very best of my knowledge, and despite what you repeatedly think, and as backed up by testing with my O2 sim, and on a friend's phone, that as far as ArcSoft MMS composer is concerned, the appearance of numbers in the program's contacts list with the leading + stripped, whilst looking problematic, is actually NOT a bug, and for the rest of us, seems to work fine regardless.
I say nothing more than that.
Forget it. Can't even be bothered to read all that arrogance.
Do these forums have an ignore function?
Right then. Let me summarise, if only to give you an opportunity to shout at me again (even though I've been listening carefully all the way through this painful process). (I hope you're not a teacher.)
When I create an MMS using a number in the international format with a + at the beginning, the MMS Composer helpfully removes the + from the front of the number when I click to send it.
This 'special behaviour' of MMS Composer in stripping out the + symbol is not a bug. I'm not sure what one should call this, but you are absolutely clear that it's not a bug. It must be by design, huh? (Why would they design it this way, I wonder?)
Anyway, MMS messages sent by me in this way don't arrive at the destination. I get no error messages. As far as my machine is concerned, they have gone.
When you do the same thing, your messages get through.
You can't tell me why, or offer any useful suggestions for circumventing this problem. You can only keep repeating that I don't have a problem, this is a network feature, and that you're bored of telling me this.
Well thanks for your contributions.
Can anyone else help me with something useful?
(Shadamehr - keep quiet here. I don't need any more input from you right now.)
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Right then. Let me summarise, if only to give you an opportunity to shout at me again (even though I've been listening carefully all the way through this painful process). (I hope you're not a teacher.)
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You may have been listening - it's hellish clear you haven't been taking it in though.
sublimatica said:
When I create an MMS using a number in the international format with a + at the beginning, the MMS Composer helpfully removes the + from the front of the number when I click to send it.
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Yes
sublimatica said:
This 'special behaviour' of MMS Composer in stripping out the + symbol is not a bug. I'm not sure what one should call this, but you are absolutely clear that it's not a bug. It must be by design, huh? (Why would they design it this way, I wonder?)
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No idea, and I fully concur its daft - never once argued with you there.
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Anyway, MMS messages sent by me in this way don't arrive at the destination. I get no error messages. As far as my machine is concerned, they have gone.
When you do the same thing, your messages get through.
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Yes - exactly so.
sublimatica said:
You can't tell me why, or offer any useful suggestions for circumventing this problem. You can only keep repeating that I don't have a problem, this is a network feature, and that you're bored of telling me this.
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Completely untrue you arrogant idiot - if nothing else I have indicated regional settings on the xda2 as one area to investigate, and written at length about the strange behaviour different from Outlook 2002/XP to Outlook 2003 - your arrogance and sheer falsitudes seem to know no bounds. It might not have been much, but it was a clear attempt to try to help. For Christ's sake, you'd think I was getting PAID for trying to help you, and not giving up of my time and effort for free to seek to help a fellow user.
Like I said, you arrogant swine - are you for real? And where the hell did I say you don't have a problem? You have an absolutely genuine one. All I ever said was that the MMS software stripping the + out is not the be all and end all cause of your problems. A fact which still holds true, and in its very own right is a VERY helpful piece of advice or information for you.
I am trying to tell you that what you see happen in terms of the MMS software stripping out the + sign is a situation that seems inherint for all UK users, and yet doesn't stop other people sending.
How the hell can you overlook that key fact, and tell me it's not an important piece of information for you or again overlook the fact that I am TRYING to help you?
On the contrary, I mentioned this way back in my first attempt to help you, but you completely overlooked it, and now have dug a fairly large hole for yourself, now that this fact is starting to sink in with you.
But instead of letting me take the shovel off you, and instead give you a (freely profered) helping hand out of the hole, you can do nothing but attack me, for trying to help you, and dig that hole much deeper for yourself.
I have done nothing but try and help, came out with a key piece of information, and came back time and time again to try and help more, and all you can do is treat me like cr*p. ? ? ? ! ! !
Well bonny lad, frankly, you are the biggest t*sser I have had the misfortune to come across, and if you think I'll hang around here for you to attack me more when I repeatedly give up my time to try and HELP you, you really do have another thing coming.
You can well and truly go to hell mate.
You sad sad soul
sublimatica said:
Well thanks for your contributions.
Can anyone else help me with something useful?
(Shadamehr - keep quiet here. I don't need any more input from you right now.)
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Who the hell do you thnk you are to tell me that?
My advice to any would be helper to you now would be:
"Don't bother - you'll make time and effort to try and help him, and he'll treat you like a piece of cr*p for your reward"
Honestly - what colour is the sky on the planet where you live?
Get a life, and then look back at this event in embarresment. You should hang your head in shame.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, I didn't actually need any more input from you, Shademehr, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
Sensible suggestions from knowledgeable users on ways to solve my MMS problems (as opposed to just telling me the problem is unique and vaguely waving me in the direction of regional settings :roll: ) are still welcome - thanks in advance.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, I didn't actually need any more input from you, Shademehr, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
Sensible suggestions from knowledgeable users on ways to solve my MMS problems (as opposed to just telling me the problem is unique and vaguely waving me in the direction of regional settings :roll: ) are still welcome - thanks in advance.
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You utterly arrogant moronic b*stard.
I've spent god only knows how long trying to help you, and offering to send you updated versions of the software to try out and see if that helps, and all you can do is take the p*ss and find it funny and say what a LAUGH it has been for you?
And then ask if ANYONE ELSE wants to try and help you too?
You think they want the p*ss taken out of them once they have spent ages trying to help you too?
Your not of this planet sunshine.
Thanks for the message saying "thanks for all the time you spent trying to help me shadamehr".
As if.
You f*cking d*ckhead - what an ungrateful arrogant b*stard.
Good luck. You're gonna need it.
mms problems
i am frightened to say this now, but..... i appear to have the same problem, the msg appears to leave me ok, it just never arrives. i havent managed to send any mms for the past month - 6 weeks since i changed from Nokia 6600 to XDA II.
Please don't be frightened, David - I'm not that bad, honest! :lol:
I discovered while testing again the other day that SMS messages don't get through for me either unless the number is perfectly correct (i.e. with the + included if in international format), so what I'm experiencing isn't limited to MMS. I guess it must be a network limitation.
I'm sure that other people reported that SMS do get through without the + attached when this bug first came to light last year. At least with SMS I get a warning that the message couldn't be sent.
I rarely close threads, but this one is closed.
I'm very busy this weekend, and have no time to read this whole thread to see who did what to whom.
Past experience has shown that text-based forums are not a good place to express feelings of anger and frustration. Please all realise that no matter how well we're doing presently, a community such as this is always more brittle and fragile than you'd expect.
Love, Peace & Happyness,
Peter
( dig it! dig it! )
Dear All,
i have tired from searching for an application to enable me send a contact details using SMS. after a long search i found a similar application called RJV SendContact (http://www.airfagev.com/forum_view.asp?msg_id=52421) , but it is for smart phones. do anyone know a similar application that can work with our PPC Wizard devices.
Can't help, but i would like one too.
Yet another big shortfall with WM5. I mean, FFS, Vcard's have been a standard feature in mobiles for years.
Hi there.
Try looking/searching for Sunnysoft Vcard. Google it and you will know that it is what you guys are looking for.
Regards.
Morisa
Tahnks
i got the program from sunnysoft.com, but it is a trial for 14 days, do anybody knows a free program to do this....
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gwassef said:
i got the program from sunnysoft.com, but it is a trial for 14 days, do anybody knows a free program to do this....
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Try Vazu.
I used it back about two years ago when they first offered it as a free beta. I used it for a year and then they tried to start charging for it. But I see now that they are once again offering the service free of charge, except for international SMS messages.
BTW, I have no connection of any kind with them, except that I used it for a while.
Good luck.
this is for sending sms for the us, but not Vcards from your device.
I don't know if it's just US or not, but you can upload your contacts (read: vCards) to their site and they will then be sent to your phone via SMS.
That info may be beyond the main page - read through the site and you'll see what I'm talking about. I used it about two years ago when they first established the site to send about 200 Outlook contacts from my PC to a Motorola T720 (Ugh 0 what a dog that phone was!)
OK - I copied the link directly to the page that explains how to import contacts from Outlook, Outlook Express, Apple Mail, or Ximian Evolution (Whatever that is) for transmission directly to your cell phone:
https://www.vazu.com/help/import_contact.php
Many Thanks
Many Thanks for your effort, it can be a replacement
I use this small program. it adds "Sens as Vcard"to the contactsmenu, when you hold your stylus on a contact.
And it recognises Vcards when you recieve them.
I don't know where I found this so I attach it to this post, I hope this is not Illegal. Otherwise Google for vCardforminiS.cab
good luck
Great App, but i google for it i did not find anything concerning this app, anyway , thanks alot
I could not find it with google eather, sorry for the wrong tip
o2 sms has this feature
The O2 SMSprogram has this feature. Someone on this forum posted the version that can be installed on the Wizard. I tried it once but found it a bit slow. Then again I was running the original Cingular Rom which sucked big time. Search for the thread and try it out. The only drawback is that the application does not eliminate the messages from also showing up in the default WM5 messaging application.
-Richard
I tried installing it in my phone. It says Installation unsuccessful. Am I doing anything wrong ?
Hi! Can some one help me know about a software which can send bulk sms using jasjar and my computer, also i have seen sometime the sender's name is mentioned even i dont have his/her name saved in my address book. I know some software exists but dont know which one it is?
Hey! Can any one help me..please?
try www.textanywhere.net
I would expect you haven't had much response because (and this may come as a bit of a shock) NOBODY WANTS YOUR BLOODY SPAM.
Madkat, Man before raising finger on some one, You should try n get a response, shouldnt come to conclusions so easily..now the reason i need is cause i am getting married in feb, and to send pre-invites by sms, i need this software.. i am a businessman..and the business i am into..requires no marketing..as we sell only to O.E.M's.. hope ive made my self clear..and BTW..i too hate spammers..
please share us ur information i you find any program .
thanks.
Fair enough, sorry if I came across over-zealous TBH the lack of detail of the usage and the interest in giving your CLI (Caller Line ID - or the "number" the text is from) as a name instead of a number led me right down the wrong path.
If you don't mind my saying, a better idea might be to leave the number intact and include the names in the message - that way everything still ties up for the recipients, some of whom might automatically reject messages from people not in their contacts to cut down on SPAM Anyone who doesn't, and who doesn't have you in their contacts, will then have your contact number *and* know who you are, rather than just having a name.
Congratulations, and good luck
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Madkat, Man before raising finger on some one, You should try n get a response, shouldnt come to conclusions so easily..now the reason i need is cause i am getting married in feb, and to send pre-invites by sms, i need this software.. i am a businessman..and the business i am into..requires no marketing..as we sell only to O.E.M's.. hope ive made my self clear..and BTW..i too hate spammers..
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Jeyo mobile companion lets you send bulk sms
cheers
Nishant said:
Hi! Can some one help me know about a software which can send bulk sms using jasjar and my computer, also i have seen sometime the sender's name is mentioned even i dont have his/her name saved in my address book. I know some software exists but dont know which one it is?
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maybe http://www.mobile-cc.ch/mccServices/mccProdukte/mccMassMessage/tabid/138/Default.aspx can help. Eric
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Hey Rhapsody,
Your software is great, been using it for a while now
Anyway, I wanted to interest you with a free (based on ads) sending SMS service. It's really good, works worldwide, and has a daily limit of 100msges if I remember well.
Maybe the support could be added to your app?
http://mjoy.com
Regards
efbiaye
so i just thought i would share this with you guys and as always try this at your own risk and i am not afiliated in any way whatsoever with the company above
is this for real or an advert?
it works awesome!thanks
This is pretty cool. Does any one know of any software that will do the same.
Yes, looks nice, but you really have to ask yourself what's the privacy and advertising policy of mjoy. I'm especially worried about possible SMS spam coming to me and my friends from mjoy or it's affiliates. I've been reading their Terms of usage and here's an interesting paragraph:
"mjoy may use information in your profile without identifying you as an individual to third parties. We do this for purposes such as aggregating how many people in a network like specific offerings, events, cultural offers, such as music, games, movies, etc. and personalizing advertisements and promotions so that we can provide you mjoy. We do our best to offer you a service that is suited to your needs. As advertising is an integral part of our funding and of our allowing you to use our Site and Services, we try to keep the advertising presented to you as close to your presumed interests as possible. If you state your consumer or other preferences explicitly within your profile, we have a much better chance to provide you the information that has a maximum of relevance for you. We do not hand out details about you individually to anyone, however.
We may use information about you that we collect from other sources, including but not limited to newspapers and Internet sources such as blogs, instant messaging services, mjoy Platform developers and other users of mjoy, to supplement your profile. We will allow you to specify that you don't want this to be done or to take other actions that limit the connection of this information to your profile."
Not again...
This entire thread should be removed ASAP, or quite a few people will be changing their numbers sometime soon...
WHAT????
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This entire thread should be removed asap, or quite a few people will be changing their numbers sometime soon...
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can you be specific what exactly do you mean ?
projection said:
Not again...
This entire thread should be removed ASAP, or quite a few people will be changing their numbers sometime soon...
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Yes what do you mean?
Why?
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Yes what do you mean?
Why?
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Cuz your number just got spammed !
I've used it 2 or 3 times but haven't received one spam sms.
The only thing that sucks is the limitation of the Message because in each sms there is a link to the Message on the HP where you can read the full massage. Only the beginning of the message is in the sms.
Anybody had a phone bill after using this sort of service?
I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of scheme means that certain messages end up costing money, in the same way that premium pay-per-message services already exist in other ways.
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Anybody had a phone bill after using this sort of service?
I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of scheme means that certain messages end up costing money, in the same way that premium pay-per-message services already exist in other ways.
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It is not possible what you are saying because you don't have any software installed in the phone to send the message it is a WEB site...
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It is not possible what you are saying because you don't have any software installed in the phone to send the message it is a WEB site...
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Here in the UK, we have premium-rate SMS services. To sign up, you send an SMS to a specific number and after that they send you the information you've requested via SMS. Each SMS they send costs you money.
To enable such a service requires no special software. All you need to do is give the provider permission to send you these expensive SMS messages by giving them an SMS with your number in.
So, I can imagine the scenario with mjoy: you type your mobile number into the mjoy website to register for some sort of 'free' service but without realising you also accept that they will charge you for certain other services. These charges will appear in your mobile phone bill along with your other network costs, just like the premium SMS service I described above.
I don't know how likely this is, nor what service mjoy is offering. I haven't visited their site, so apologies if I've got the whole thing wrong.
But you get nothing for free in this world and companies like mjoy will exist to get revenue from subscribers, either by directly charging for the service or by selling space to advertisers.
Perhaps the only advertising is on their website as you visit to collect a message and it will cost you nothing directly. But it would be somewhat naive to assume this without checking, especially since a mechanism already exists for providers of premium-rate services to charge subscribers through the operator's normal billing systems.
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Here in the UK, we have premium-rate SMS services. To sign up, you send an SMS to a specific number and after that they send you the information you've requested via SMS. Each SMS they send costs you money.
To enable such a service requires no special software. All you need to do is give the provider permission to send you these expensive SMS messages by giving them an SMS with your number in.
So, I can imagine the scenario with mjoy: you type your mobile number into the mjoy website to register for some sort of 'free' service but without realising you also accept that they will charge you for certain other services. These charges will appear in your mobile phone bill along with your other network costs, just like the premium SMS service I described above.
I don't know how likely this is, nor what service mjoy is offering. I haven't visited their site, so apologies if I've got the whole thing wrong.
But you get nothing for free in this world and companies like mjoy will exist to get revenue from subscribers, either by directly charging for the service or by selling space to advertisers.
Perhaps the only advertising is on their website as you visit to collect a message and it will cost you nothing directly. But it would be somewhat naive to assume this without checking, especially since a mechanism already exists for providers of premium-rate services to charge subscribers through the operator's normal billing systems.
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Well you are not subscribing to any service when you register, there is advertising on their web site and you can do a simple search in Google to see that no one else had problem with this service...next time research more
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2421931,00.html
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Well you are not subscribing to any service when you register, there is advertising on their web site and you can do a simple search in Google to see that no one else had problem with this service...next time research more
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2421931,00.html
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I hope you're right. Good luck.
So, how is this free SMS if the other end has to log online to see the entire message???
I can as well send an email over GPRS to someone, and if they have internet they can just check their email. Wow, free text!
/facepalm
Exactly this type of service just cost me Mrs £6, re received a text message asking her to reply to receive the message upon her reply she received 2 new text messages saying they had cost £3 each.
Not had a bill yet but expecting a nasty one.
_macca said:
Exactly this type of service just cost me Mrs £6, re received a text message asking her to reply to receive the message upon her reply she received 2 new text messages saying they had cost £3 each.
Not had a bill yet but expecting a nasty one.
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Bah I tried twice to send messages to other number and I fully received the message no need to reply no need to log to the web site to see the full message....(not very long messages)....mah
beware
good day, i just want to share my experience after i register to myjoy the other day, i receive a misscall from these number+37866321929i was confuse what number is this so i try to ring the number then i remember way back in singapore that there is a scam that if you ring the unknown number your top up will be gone and after 1 ring i hangup but its too late for me,my balance 20.00 euro is long gone. ive chk in internet for my call history i have 7sec for 1.99euro and another one 7min for 18.00euro for the same number.
is it possible that mjoy is behind all of this.
Sorry my english is poor
In anycase, i still dont want to provide my number to the public(even not public). Cuz it kinda private stuff and now in most security method they need the mobile number to identify who you are, so if some people use that information in the harm way then i would be stuffed, wouldnt it?
hello all
can someone help me please.
I also did light LED for the mail does not work for me.
I have adapted to register but no.
sms etc. work fine except email.
one solution?
Thanks.
Yep; from reading this and various other forums, it seems this doesn't work on ANYONE'S HD2. HTC Support claims it works just fine for them though, and that they've had no complaints (except mine). Obviously this is a software issue, since the LED fires for other notifications, so it'd be an easy software fix.
Suggestion: drop an email to HTC describing this (and other) problem. http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
I have almost all the software from xda tried.
Resultaad same ..
Could the problem lie with the Radio Rom? !
Someone experience??
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...and that they've had no complaints (except mine).
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...and mine too ;-)
Brief mini-rant (and sneaky opportunity to bump this up):
I'm as pissed as anyone about the SMS problem; it's a basic function of a phone that oughta work out of the box as expected even on the cheapest phone available. That it doesn't work on this pricey gizmo, and HTC have yet to fix it is shocking.
From reading these threads though, I see that folks have thousands of SMS's on their phones. Wow. On most plans, SMS's cost money to send. Why would anyone choose an SMS when an email would serve the same purpose? I read somewhere on the net that per byte it's cheaper to send / receive data from the Hubble telescope than to send an SMS.
My point: I'm surprised there's not more outrage about the non-working 'new email' notification LED.
response from HTC re LED Notification not working
I dropped an email to HTC describing the Email LED problem and their initial response was, have i ticked the box in settings .
Then they said
"the only option we can take is to escalate this case for you and get the R&D department to take a look and get a fix for this.
if i can take some details from the device i can forward this case on to be looked at:
Serial number,
IMEI number.
ROM version, 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE
Radio version 2.05.51.05_2"
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i gave them my details and their response was :-
"Thank you for the details ill make sure they look in to this and see what we can do to correct this for you.
thanks again, ill contact you as soon as we get some information back from them"
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Not holding my breath
Can you let us know if they come with a solution ..??
I've been swapping emails with the developer of PhoneAlarm; he's sent me a beta version that actually makes the email LED work! He says the beta should be up on his site in the next day or so. YAAAAAAY!
http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html Since this guy's the only person who's taken the trouble to look into this, I strongly encourage all to *purchase* this nice piece of software.
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Can you let us know if they come with a solution ..??
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Will do, hopefully they dont take to long to work it out.
Have more people with this problem or are we alone??
Nope; this is faulty on ALL HD2s as far as I know, and also not fixed on the latest ROM 1.66.
But, the latest version of PhoneAlarm fixes this problem! I strongly encourage folks to try / purchase this great piece of software! http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html
That means HTC sense to disable switching and Phone Alarm?
I am having same problem and headache to think how is the solution. Then i eat panadol.
I just fired off an email to HTC about this. It's a bit frustrating that there is an option for it but it doesn't work. How embarrassing for them to have such a blatant bug. It can't hurt to let them know that lots of folks are suffering from this.
Here is the response I got from HTC today
New Response From [ Richard (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear valued HTC customer,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
This could be a driver conflict and we recommend to try a hard reset on it make sure that you back up all your data before the reset. If the problem still going on after this then contact us in this line +44 8458900079 and we will send your device to be repaired.
Best regards,
HTC customer support team
HTC Corp. Global Service Division
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I can't believe they are just being so blind about this problem. It is on every handset. Why don't they just test it on their own?
Hardware fault. WTF?
Yep: the HTC guy I swapped emails with swore up & down that his email LED worked just fine.
finally
People good news, Uncle Bear is right.
Thanks to him I now also working led to mail, I could not believe my eyes when I saw a green light.
So phone alarm beta version is a nice solution.
Least until HTC comes with a solution. (As can be seen a long time)
After the last email they sent me I sent them this back
2010/01/29 11:13 Matt Johnson
This is not a hardware issue. If it is, then it is a problem with every HD2 handset out there. Lots of other HD2 owners have this exact problem also. I am a member of the XDA forum and it does not work for everyone. As I stated before, the LED works for other notifications, like SMS or alarm, but not the email. This is a problem with Sense or Windows I think. You should look into it more. I have hard reset the device many times and this specific feature has never worked.
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Then they responded with their generic response AGAIN! How frustrating
Dear customer,
If the rom update or hard reset its fixing the issue with your device, please contact us on +44 8458900079 and speak with our agent to send this device to be repair.
Best regards,
HTC customer support team
HTC Corp. Global Service Division
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I can only assume they meant to say "isn't fixing" and not "is fixing". Not only are they fobbing me off, they can't even be arsed to type (or copy and paste) an email correctly.
I just got pretty much the same response from Joe UK Tech support. He said a Hard reset would fix it but if it doesnt he will make sure that any info he gets from the R&D department, he will get back to my straight away. (Not going to hold my breath)
In the meantime, i have started using PhoneAlarm and now the LED does flash for new emails but there are so many notification setting/changes needed within PhoneAlarm its a hassle.
Another response from HTC
I sent them
I an only assume you meant to say "isn't fixing" and not "is fixing" in your previous response? Can you please confirm that your HD2 has the email notification working. That is, when a new email arrives, the LED will flash for the time that is set in the settings? This is very strange, there are hundreds of people just like me on the XDA forums that are having this exact same problem. Are you saying that all their handsets are defective too and need to be replaced? This functionality has not worked on ROM's 1. 43, 1.48 or 1.66. It does work for the other notifications like SMS or missed call, which strongly points to a software bug. Almost 100% sure it's not a hardware fault. I really don't want to send my phone as I can't be without it for weeks.
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They replied with
Dear customer, You have the option to send this device to be repair or wait untill the rom update to fix this software issue. At the moment HTC does not have any information when this hotfix will be available to the customer. Please contact us for further questions. Best regards, HTC customer support team HTC Corp. Global Service Division Call Center at on +44 8458900079
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Here you contradict yourself. You say that I can send my phone in for "Repair" but also that there is no software fix for this. Doesn't that mean that there is also no way that you can fix the problem. What would you do to "Fix" this? Again I will ask you. Does your HD2 have a working LED for email notification? Or is it a fault with the software? I know the LED works for SMS, missed calls etc but does it work for emails?
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Why won't they just give a straight answer and accept there is a problem at least. What the hell would they do with it if I sent it in anyways?