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T-Mobile Vario Cheap(ish)

Seen on another forum .. thanks taxman .. bought this .. seems like a cheap package overall ..
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=m18_relax_300_MDAVarioCP

joker3001 said:
Seen on another forum .. thanks taxman .. bought this .. seems like a cheap package overall ..
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=m18_relax_300_MDAVarioCP
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Looks good - Another T-Mobile page still shows the Vario with Co-Pilot on this tariff at £119.99

Yeah , it is under "special offers" - look under the "300 mins for £14.50 for 12 months" deals
Thanks joker3001 ! just ordered one
Was looking for a reason to buy a Wizard anyway (or at least something to justify it to the wife :wink: ) and the Sat Nav does just that !
Soon , the battle between the Universal & the Wizard will commence - pending a T-moble credit check of course :lol:
Cheers dude

Is this phone any different from the SX56?
I just installed the XDA ROM software into my SX56 and unlocked the AT&T phone which now accepts TMobile (the phone accepts my SIM card and TMobile made a call to me which came in). I am paying $19.95 a month and have had the service for about eight years
The problem I am having is that my phone screen now doesnt respond properly: Touching it causes the backlight to go on but most of the keys dont do what one would expect them to do: The phone turns on with a reminder from the calendar on the screen which wont DISMISS or CLOSE. Pressing on the windows logo and then on the phone key causes the calendar to come up and I am not sure which numbers are entered when I do manage to get the phone to come onto the screen (none of the right hand numbers seem to work at all). Does anyone recognise these symptoms and/or could they just show that my SX56 needs the ROM RE-flashing? I should add that pressing the Master Reset button with this ROM in place seems to make the phone shut off and then when you restart it, all of the data remains in place. I wonder if there is any possibility that the XDA ROM has prevented the reset button from working normally?
But then I saw this ad: The SDA site implies that all these phones are the same under the skin although an article written in 2002 http://wiki.xda-developers.com/uploads/tmobile-pocketpc.pdf implies that the manufacturer was coming out with some different processor at that stage and that the processor in the Wallaby was then already obsolete: Does anyone know if this phone represents any advance on the SX56 or is it newer or is my phone exactly the same as this one or is my SX56 actually better? (I already have the COPILOT software independently). Or is it just the same walllaby in a different casing which TMobile are tyring to get rid of because the manufacturer is as uncooperative iwth them as they are with anyone else?

Anybody had any luck with this?
I just called T-Mobile sales to ask what was included with the Copilot kit and was told that they are not honouring this offer due to a mistake. Worth a try anyway?

Mistake, but IS this phone any different from the SX56?
What the mistake was may be relevant: I just called them and they said they WERE although they had at first said that the CoPilot was extra and wasnt included with the price. I didnt take it any further as I couldn't figure out whether the phone they are offering is any different to the one I already have

Re: Is this phone any different from the SX56?
The problem I am having is that my phone screen now doesnt respond properly
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Sounds like the digitiser is up the swanee - have you tried recalibrating it?
is it just the same walllaby in a different casing which TMobile are tyring to get rid of because the manufacturer is as uncooperative iwth them as they are with anyone else?
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It's a completely different phone. The Vario is an HTC Wizard with T-Mobile branding. There's plenty of info on this site on the differences between models.

Re: Mistake, but IS this phone any different from the SX56?
licensedtoquill said:
I couldn't figure out whether the phone they are offering is any different to the one I already have
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Never heard of Google, or even http://wiki.xda-developers.com/?

Pricing mistake
The sales chap I spoke to said that the free Copilot offer only applies to other phones - it should cost £120 with the Vario. However, he said he works for direct sales, not the web sales team, so advised me to give it a go anyway, which I have done. It's before the 7.30pm cutoff for next day delivery, so I'll give you an update tomorrow...

Re: Pricing mistake
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The sales chap I spoke to said that the free Copilot offer only applies to other phones - it should cost £120 with the Vario. However, he said he works for direct sales, not the web sales team, so advised me to give it a go anyway, which I have done. It's before the 7.30pm cutoff for next day delivery, so I'll give you an update tomorrow...
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Their "mistake" excuse is weak - if it is, why haven't they taken the page down?

It clearly states on that page Vario with co pilot. Whats the problem ? Get it bought :lol:

Re: Is this phone any different from the SX56?
"Sounds like the digitiser is up the swanee - have you tried recalibrating it?"
Not sure how to reclalibrate it but the problem appears to be that I dropped it and 10-12 vertical black lines started appearing to the right hand edge of the screen. Sometimes they are there, sometimes not. THere is usually at last one there somewhere. At about that time the screen stopped responding as I mention. Today the left third started displaying the same veritcal lines, though spaced quite far apart (about a millimetre). Screen doesn't APPEAR cracked: Does this sound like a digitiser and if so, how do you recalibrate it please or is there a link to somewhere on the XDA site which I cant find which might tell me? Or could it be the cable loose in the circuit board? As you touch the lower right hand corner of the metal casing where the vertical lines are, those lines flash (the right 10 or 12) on and off and every coloured bar everywhere on the screen or word of text has vertical lines on it even if the white parts don't??
(BTW FWIW I am in New York and couldn't take advantage of the .co.uk offer but was just wondering how they could give the unit away so cheap unless it was essentially the same as the 2002 units which are described on the XDA site)

Success! (I think)
Just checked my email on arriving home and my order has been confirmed by T-Mobile so it should be with me tomorrow. Still odd that they show it at £120 on one page and free on another, but I'm not complaining!

Re: Is this phone any different from the SX56?
@licensedtoquill - to me it sounds like you've dislodged the connections to the screen. Youcould try taking the thing apart and reseating it, but it's a delicate job and not for someone who's not used to dealing with miniature electronics. Might be work looking for a repair facility - PPC Techs have a good reputation.
As for why the phones are so cheap over here, the network operators will do anything to get you signed up to a contract, as that's where they make their money. It's easy to get a free top line phone if you chose the right contract. Especially one like this which locks you in for 18 months as opposed to the normal 12. They're banking on the fact that even with the 300 free voice minutes, you'll still ramp up the bill with SMS and GPRS over the life of the contract. That's why they put the unlimited half price rental "loyalty" bonus at the end to make sure you stick out the full term.

Mine is confirmed too - should be here before one tomorrow
The Guy on the phone (had to phone to confirm some details) said the deal was so good that they (the web sales team) were all snapping them up too , and that the deal was subject to stock , and that stock of the copilot kits would probably be exhausted by the end of today
No mention of a mistake at all :roll:

@zoidster: what time did you order yours? I needed one and did not have the time to order w/o co-pilot earlier in the day and this looked too good to be true. I got confirmation around 9:30PM UK and hope the stock is not finished yet.

It was about 4.30pm mate - mind you , in "sales speak" a few left probably means several thousand :lol:
If your order was confirmed & they charged you the £5.99 for next day delivery then I'd guess they had stock left

Thanks, I got confirmation and should be with me tommorrow.
Thanks for the link, saved me 50 quid.

Got mine !
yesterday , I managed to navigate to the deal via the homepage
tried again this morning and the same deal is now £199 !

Does this package come with a gps receiver as well??

TyTn / Vario II / M3100 / Trion screen alignment issue

From number of forums I been trough on different web sites my belief is that all the Hermes units have alignment issues.
I think some users use the device very lightly so the alignment issue does not show or some users might not trigger the conditions that cause this problem.
I base this on a fact that some people get the issue after 2 weeks and some get it after day or 2.
Also people who I know that have re-ordered their units, still have alignment issues with new units.
Hermes device builds seam to have the same build issues over and over again:
1. Alignment issue
2. Camera is misaligned to the body of the phone
3. Keyboard only clicks once when closed.
4. Keyboard button problems
There some common hypothesis to the cause of the issue:
1. Tightened screws below the screen (yahh)
2. Digitizer problem
3. Heath from the battery
4. Rubber underneath the screen too thick
REQUEST:
Can anyone after re-aligning the screen can reproduce the alignment issue?
The issue 1:
After some use the screen alignment offsets for 2-3mm to the left.
The issue 2:
After some use the screen alignment offsets for 1cm to the left.
If we can reproduce this problem we might be able to force HTC to provide TyTn's units that actually work.
Forgot to say I am on my second Vario II 632 Series

hmmm, had mine for over 3 weeks now....used it ALOT (went on holiday with the thing) and i aint had any issues AT ALL with it.
If there were issues with ALL the hermes devices they would have been recalled. Besides its seems unlikely there is a fault with both the HERM100 and 200 models!?

mrvanx said:
hmmm, had mine for over 3 weeks now....used it ALOT (went on holiday with the thing) and i aint had any issues AT ALL with it.
If there were issues with ALL the hermes devices they would have been recalled. Besides its seems unlikely there is a fault with both the HERM100 and 200 models!?
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Try to use it like a laptom modem with 3g... In this way I reproduced the issue

....done.....still fine.
Checked by using the character recogniser in Word. The line was perfectly lined up with the stylus, across the entire screen.
Since you can only reproduce this by using as a modem that WOULD suggest a software issue???
Have we ruled out that this could be a software issue?????
Just so u know my TyTN is not locked to ANY network and has a serial number starting HT628.

I did notice in several forums that people having HT628 series claim that they do not have any screen issues.
Can anyone who has HT628 series Hermes confirm that they have screen alignment issue.

have a htc hermes since 6 weeks, serial no. 628. I heavyly use it every day. Had no serious problem until yesterday. (only anoying problem was that bluetooth is switching off after some hours without any reason)
But now this fuc... alignmentproblem started on my device too! The fairy-tale that only older devices get this problem is simply not true.
Shall I ask for replacement too?

even 635 is having alignmnet issue..

I had a 628 series and now a 630 series... never seen a screen alignment issue!

CHT9000 623XXX has screen alignemnt problem and camera flash
not working, but the screen problem seems to become more predictable.
I can usually conjure this problem when using power-draining features such as 3G or WLAN. Also, on multiple occasions loudpseaker activity has forced the issue.
I thought about static electricity but since the location of the problem seems to be confined to the right edge of the screen is seems improbable.
I guess it boils down to understanding the technology behind it to include or rule out contributing factors.
Any Sparkys around who could enlighten us?

HTC hardware fault
Good Afternoon,
There are now procedures in place for fixing the Screen alignment issue with the TyTN devices. This is a hardware issue that we have identified and we are offering a replacement to owners of affected devices with two conditions.
1: The device must be returned with all accompanying accessories.
Everything that was in the box when you bought the device must be in the box when you return it.
2: The device must be a Genuine HTC Badged device. This means that the device cannot be a Vodafone v1605, an O2 XDA Trion, a T-Mobile Vario II or any other device based on the TyTN, but that is not actually a TyTN. For these devices, you must contact the Network/Reseller for further advice on this issue.
If you meet these two provisions, you may contact your nearest repair centre to arrange the swap. Please place everything back into the original box and arrange to have the device picked up. It will then be tested to confirm that it has the problem, and then it will be swapped for a replacement unit.
If you are unable to return everything, you will be eligible for a repair under the warranty. For this also, you can contact your nearest repair centre to arrange this.
Your nearest repair centre is as follows:
Dynafix Repair B. V.
Daelderweg 21
NL-63641 HK Nuth
+31 (0) 9003962349
[email protected]
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
Ridwaan Daniel Carregosa
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

TyTN : Frustration of LCD Screen Disalignment Problem

I brought CHT9000 at July 2006 and O2 Trion at August 2006. Both have disalignment problem. At first I thought it is ROM problem and happened for certain model and S/N only.
I try 4 ROMs : I-Mate, Dopod ENG ROM, TyTN and New CHT (Taiwan) ROM.
I installed these ROMs and without installed 3rd parties software. Also I proceed all necessory method to prevent this problem happen such as set a false exchange server for activesync and unclick USB to PC (Check my post).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58633
However, all of them have this fuxking disalignment problem. :twisted:
It is hardware problem and I have 2 possible methods to produce this disalignment happen to your TyTN:
1. Body Heat. i.e. Charging, Surf internet and Long talk.
2. Apply very little pressure on LCD. i.e. Cleaning your LCD Panel.
You will find this fxcking disalignment happen again. If you encounter this problem, don't realign the screen manually. Wait few mintues and you will found that it will re-align again. Now you can re-align the screen manually this time.
I already sold my device and not recommend anyone to buy it. It seems that HTC cannot solve this problem and perhaps they don't know the causes.
If you want to buy it, please wait. :wink:
If you brought it, good luck and godspeed.

i have sent mine back because of it

This is the HTC official answer to my request:
Good Afternoon,
There are now procedures in place for fixing the screen alignment issue with the TyTN devices. This is a hardware issue that we have identified and we are offering a replacement to owners of affected devices with two conditions.
1: The device must be returned with all accompanying accessories.
Everything that was in the box when you bought the device must be in the box when you return it.
2: The device must be a Genuine HTC Badged device. This means that the device cannot be a Vodafone v1605, an O2 XDA Trion, a T-Mobile Vario II or any other device based on the TyTN, but that is not actually a TyTN. For these devices, you must contact the Network/Reseller for further advice on this issue.
If you meet these two provisions, you may contact your nearest repair centre to arrange the swap. Please place everything back into the original box and arrange to have the device picked up. It will then be tested to confirm that it has the problem, and then it will be swapped for a replacement unit.
If you are unable to return everything, you will be eligible for a repair under the warranty. For this also, you can contact your nearest repair centre to arrange this.
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Cheers

Mine goes back Tuesday hopefully the replacement unit will not have the same issue.

There are people who fixed their issue by ROM Upgrade. There are people who just bought their Hermes got this problem. Some has SN HT63XXX. There also some people who been swap their units, and the issue came back.
Well, as I see it, HTC does not know how to fix this issue 100% since it is also happening on some Dopod 838, 8125 (models with sliding keyboard).
I will upgrade my Trion this weekend, and if this issue persists... I will sell this baby and reactivate my trusty Universal.
:lol:

A colleague was able to fix the problem by untightening the two screws on the back of the display and retightening them (not quite as tight as before). His device works without screen alignment problems ever since.
It seems that the screws are too tight which causes tension on the LCD resulting in screen alignment problems.

Magnet Theory
A friend of mine with CHT Dopod 9000, did this and fix his alignment issue.
"When Slide the keyboard, there's a magnet that activates the landscape mode. It's in the back of the screen when you slide it. ( I tried to put it near a magnet and the lanscape activates!)
Then I put a tape at the back of the small protruding (hunchback) just enough to be able to slide it close. This will decrease the magnetism receive from the main body when is close. Then for a week, it's good than before that I need to align 5x a day."
I know this true, since I met him and check his device. I even tried to massage his display, or run it hot.
I will try it myself... let u posted...

The problem only started for me after I installed a screen protector (Martin Fields, an excellent choice!), and since then I've had to re-align the screen every day. This morning I tried the screw trick, so I'll report back if it works for me.
Also I should point out that I have an MDA Vario II, so it looks like those of us who waited are no better off.
The next problem I have to deal with is an unresponsive 'C' key on my keyboard... :wink:

alignment issue is SW or HW or Both...
But unresponsive key(s) is really a HW, my first one has the "L" and backspace.. and it always like that, try to press it fast and it will not register all unlike the rest.
goodluck to all of us!!
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Anyone that has sent their TyTN back in for repair/replacement for the screen crapalignment, please report back when you get your TyTN back. I want to know if it's worth making the effort to get mine replaced, seeing as I live in Australia and I don't exactly have HTC repair centres, mainly on account of that they don't sell this here. BUT if it's worth getting it repaired/replaced, i'll try to make arrangements with my ebay seller and/or some overseas repairing people.
Cheers guys,
~Louis x_.

Re: Magnet Theory
sectorlord said:
A friend of mine with CHT Dopod 9000, did this and fix his alignment issue.
"When Slide the keyboard, there's a magnet that activates the landscape mode. It's in the back of the screen when you slide it. ( I tried to put it near a magnet and the lanscape activates!)
Then I put a tape at the back of the small protruding (hunchback) just enough to be able to slide it close. This will decrease the magnetism receive from the main body when is close. Then for a week, it's good than before that I need to align 5x a day."
I know this true, since I met him and check his device. I even tried to massage his display, or run it hot.
I will try it myself... let u posted...
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really ? I will try. Thanks

Tried, fermin's method seems to work！Thanks！

problems S100

Hi! Such problem with phone. It is switched off at playing mp3, at photographing and entering calls, fireware 12. what to do?

Your battery must be defective.

Thank you!
Thanks! I and thought, there was no time to check up! There Is other problem. Can you will help! After disassembly of phone the screen has ceased to work! Suspicion on a socket where you connect the screen. It has a black thing which is inserted into contacts, it has broken, some contacts were bent. Whether probably it to restore, and whether it is possible to buy this thing?

I don't know where one could buy spare parts. It's either you send your device for repair or get in touch with an electronics expert to try to help you out.

I have solved a problem if knew where is on sale spare details, but such information I do not know.

not working s100
i had the same problem from the magician the black thing seems to hold the screen ribbon in.
i emaled t-mobile and the gave me the following info
For accessories and parts for MDAs, please contact the manufacturer on 01908556464. They're open 09:00 to 12:30 and 13:30 to 17:30 Monday to Friday. If the line is busy, you can leave a message and your call will be returned within 24 hours.
I hope this helps
please tell me how you got on as i have had to switch to a normal samsung d600 phone which is vastly inferior to the mda

mot working magician
just an update:
i have now started proceedings to fix my magician. i have emailed [email protected] for the address to send my phone to. i have been told its £53 minimum for my problem (broken black thing on screen ribbon) and if i want my facia replaced its a further £33. i may take up the offer of a new facia. as mine got damaged. will post the results. (this repair service is only uk. for your own country please see htc.com.)

HTC TyTN screen defect

Hi there,
My HTC TyTN screen is defect after I tried to repair the alignment issue. HTC seems not to be able to send me a new screenpart. Is there anyone here with a defect HTC TyTN after flashing who is willing to sell me his device?
Or does anyone know where to get spare parts in europe for the TyTN?
Thanks!
Dennis

screen defect
Hi there,
I have (on rare ocasions) seen tytn parts on ebay selling fairly cheap, it might be worth checking on there.
Failing that I thought HTC had a repair centre somewhere in London, you may have to leave it with them for a few days but they should be able to fix it for you for a fee.
Regards
Terryd1980

There was a thread recently from someone looking for the screen ribbon cable - this pointed to a couple of websites which sold tytn (maybe the O2 version) screens.
I'm a bit busy at the moment but will post the links if I find them later.
Edit: found the links - They're in this thread, hope on is useful to you:
https://www.cellulardr.com/proddetail.php?prod=Cingular8525LCD&cat=125
http://www.gethightech.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=CS
http://www.diytrade.com/directory/g...bbon_for_Dopod_838_Imate_K-jam_O2_Mini_S.html
http://www.factory2customer.com/index.php/cat/Home/cat_id/33218
dmxl said:
Hi there,
My HTC TyTN screen is defect after I tried to repair the alignment issue. HTC seems not to be able to send me a new screenpart. Is there anyone here with a defect HTC TyTN after flashing who is willing to sell me his device?
Or does anyone know where to get spare parts in europe for the TyTN?
Thanks!
Dennis
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Almost 2½ years on and buying a brand new screen for a TyTN is not very economical anymore. If there is anyone on this forum with a paypal account, a broken TyTN/P3600 (but working screen !) and a helpful nature, then will you sell me your old TyTN so I can take out the screen and fix mine which cracked today ?
Thanks for any tips !