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So... I dropped it, it's dead, now what?

I live in Japan and have a Hermes from Softbank. Thanks to the efforts of the brilliant folks on this forum I reflashed it long ago to an English OS, thereby knowingly voiding my warranty with Softbank. From what I've read on this site and others, Softbank is very diligent in checking your phone to make sure you didn't use it for "unauthorized purposes" - losers - so I can't take it back to them and try to sneak it by.
I've done a bit of googling and there are a few sites offering repair services, such as this one:
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18376
I've also seen the phrase "send it to Germany" mentioned multiple times, but without any additional details. While I don't currently know anyone who lives in Germany, I'm sure I could find one. However, I doubt they'd be able to help me, or be willing to try.
My dear friends, what are my options for non-warranty repair?
For the sake of completeness, here is the status of my TYTN:
-dropped while powered on onto a nice firm floor from ~1 meter, battery case lid popped off, battery ejected
-reassembled components, no amount of power button holding will trigger a boot
-plugged in to wall adaptor and charge light is an ominous red - I can't recall for sure, but isn't the charge light usually orange?
-in short, it's D-E-A-D likely due to mechanical failure caused by my clumsiness/incompetence

all's well that ends well...
Solved my own problem. My battery wasn't seating properly in the compartment after the hard knock it took - which explains the red light while charging.
Although no one had a chance to reply, I'm sure this forum would have been extremely helpful as usual, so thank you anyway!

Shaderach said:
I live in Japan and have a Hermes from Softbank. Thanks to the efforts of the brilliant folks on this forum I reflashed it long ago to an English OS, thereby knowingly voiding my warranty with Softbank. From what I've read on this site and others, Softbank is very diligent in checking your phone to make sure you didn't use it for "unauthorized purposes" - losers - so I can't take it back to them and try to sneak it by.
I've done a bit of googling and there are a few sites offering repair services, such as this one:
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18376
I've also seen the phrase "send it to Germany" mentioned multiple times, but without any additional details. While I don't currently know anyone who lives in Germany, I'm sure I could find one. However, I doubt they'd be able to help me, or be willing to try.
My dear friends, what are my options for non-warranty repair?
For the sake of completeness, here is the status of my TYTN:
-dropped while powered on onto a nice firm floor from ~1 meter, battery case lid popped off, battery ejected
-reassembled components, no amount of power button holding will trigger a boot
-plugged in to wall adaptor and charge light is an ominous red - I can't recall for sure, but isn't the charge light usually orange?
-in short, it's D-E-A-D likely due to mechanical failure caused by my clumsiness/incompetence
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Hi
Sorry to hear about your problem.
My guess would be that the battery has been knocked out of place. Try re-seating the battery and see if you have any luck
Mike

mikechannon said:
Hi
Sorry to hear about your problem.
My guess would be that the battery has been knocked out of place. Try re-seating the battery and see if you have any luck
Mike
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Umm, did you bother reading his second post ?!

NRGZ28 said:
Umm, did you bother reading his second post ?!
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Did you bother seeing his big smile at the end of the post? Or the fact that MODERATOR is under his name? lol .. He can do what he wants.. he is demigod around here with a sense of humor.. cool it.

Madcap180 said:
Did you bother seeing his big smile at the end of the post? Or the fact that MODERATOR is under his name? lol .. He can do what he wants.. he is demigod around here with a sense of humor.. cool it.
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I like the sound of "do what he wants" and ooooooh "demigod" - if only it was true.
Sometimes humor doesn't pay off and gets me in bother!
Cheers
Mike

Mike, I got it ! ( that wasn't ass kissing, it was to let you know your not the only one with that sense of humor )

T-Mobile G1 User Guides/Manuals

Here is the manual and getting started for the G1
getting started http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm30235.pdf
full manual http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm30234.pdf

It also appeared on T-Mobile's site, http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm30234.pdf.
Websites that speak about it say that it looks rather unprofessional, and the UI is unconsistent. Can't say that I noticed that, maybe I'm not that much of a "professional" as them. It certainly is a fun interface, though. And those big buttons simply mean it's designed to be used with fingers, not with a stylus (which the G1 doesn't even have).
And I must say it's the first user manual with little jokes for example:
Use only batteries and accesories from the original manufacturer of your phone. Hint: if it's being sold out of someone's trunk, walk away.
or
Water will damage your phone and accesories - even as a small amount such as water droplets from a soda in your car cup-holder, melting snowflakes, tears of joy, squirt-gun crossfire or steam from hot water in the kitchen or bathroom.

metempsihoza said:
And those big buttons simply mean it's designed to be used with fingers, not with a stylus (which the G1 doesn't even have).
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It has a capacitive touch screen like the iPhone, a stylus won't work with it, has to be done with your finger. Even fingernails are a no-go, so if they don't make the buttons big enough the device is very hard to navigate.

here is a link with a pdf for the tmo reps product and service guide....."selling ponts" to get customer to buy!
http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/t-mobile/180-t-mobile-g1-product-service-guide.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6262341/g1-Full-Manual
LOOK WHAT I FOUND>>>SOME MORE READING MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!!
its the full manual not the getting started

And should someone want to download that one that rantrav mentioned, use the tmo address in the post above, substituting 30234 for 30235 in the filename.

beartard said:
And should someone want to download that one that rantrav mentioned, use the tmo address in the post above, substituting 30234 for 30235 in the filename.
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Nice Find!

it is alot like the iphone. very very intuitive. ive only misclicked a couple of times in the 2.5 days i havent been able to put it down LOL

Just for clarity:
The manuals referred to above are the
"Quick Start Guide" and the
"User Manual"
These are not the "Service Manual" just in case anyone is looking for that.
www.mikechannon.net
Mike

Do you need the service manual?
I can post it... is that legit?

lifegrasp said:
Do you need the service manual?
I can post it... is that legit?
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It depends... either way can you PM it to me? LOL

I'd like to see this manual as well! Please!

G1 Manual UK version
I've noticed that the UK version is different. If anyone is interested, I've uploaded it to RapidShare (says it will be available for download only 10 times) and ZippyShare (should be available forever as long as it gets downloaded at least once a month).
I can't check if getting started PDFs are different as the US version does not load for me. I guess they are different, so I might upload UK version too tonight.

Service Manual:
HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf
Mike

Umm... what is the screenshot on page 15?

G1 simulator (Flash)
just want to share to all G1 new comer,
here is a good tutorial to answer some of your basic how-to questions.
please take a look,
https://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/dm40131.dhtm?&A2L.SERVICE=Demo

Thanks Fellas :thumbsup:

my phone stuck on the logo screen reset does the same thing please help

Your worst nightmare. Lost phone.

I've had the HD2 since November. This forum has been a revelation. But a few hours ago I lost the phone. It's gone for good. No insurance, no location software, unlocked, 16gb sd card. Adios amigo.
Perhaps not my finest hour. Sadly, I wasn't even drunk. Just fell out of my pocket in the taxi cab. It seems some people in Poland aren't that honest. I contacted the actual cab 20min later through the company but it wasn't there.
Anyway, I still consider myself a lucky guy. This was my first foray into the world of smartphones and through an almost free upgrade on t-mobile uk i got the phone for only 100gbp (+40 for the sd card). I bought a few apps and pirated quite a few more, so perhaps this is karma at work.
Writing this is somewhat therapeutic for me but the need to find a replacement is paramount so this also allows all you guys to share your wisdom, if you will..
No other phone matches the HD2 for screen size. It's pure luxury - ok its not AMOLED, but I've looked just now - and AMOLED is maxed at 3.7" - a significant downgrade.
The other issue is the pirating of software. I know it's wrong but I think we can all agree it's the most convenient way to test apps before buying.
However, WMP7S has left me somewhat unimpressed, I think Android is where it's at right now - development is on fire on that platform. Am I wrong? should I wait to see what happens on wm7 - i suspect that would take a year at least
So what are my options? Whichever phone I pick must be supported by XDA.... (I know I don't have many posts yet, but I chose my name for a reason... )
HTC Desire? HTC Bravo? Samsung Pico (Projector phone!!!) What's coming up?
I suspect this is the year of the smartphone and my academic year is almost up so I can perhaps hold off until the summer before buying. (Back to my w810 - still the toughest phone ever built imo)
Thanks for listening and hopefully replying.... time to roll...

All Day On XDA said:
....I... pirated quite a few more (apps)..., ..
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You absolutely will not win many friends on here with the statement above.
WB

I'm not proud but I'm not rich either - I'm trying to do Med School on the cheap and its not easy. If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
This has only been a brief visit to the Windows platform since Windows 7 came out. For 3 years prior to that I was using linux.
Virtually all the apps I use regularly,eg FPSECE, I paid for the supporter version. There's plenty of programs that don't survive more than 2 weeks.
I apologise to anyone who may feel insulted. My intent is not to steal, but to get value for money.
Is this further weight to switch to Open platforms?

HTC Supersonic
problem solved - just have to wait again

Try out the 'premium features' on htt p://myphone.microsoft.c om/
Lock your phone
Lock your phone so that it cannot be used by anyone else. You can also enter a message to display on your phone's screen to tell the finder how to contact you.
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And that's if it can't be found through GPS...

All Day On XDA said:
If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
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You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.

Touche, and a fair point. I wont try to defend piracy with any real heart - I accept it's wrong even if the end justifies the means ('end' being good software, 'means' being fracturing a few rules)
Thanks for the MyPhone tip - I've locked the phone at least.
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I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL

willgill said:
You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
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wrong post, sorry......

Starfury said:
I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
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Hahaha OMG I also had a nightmare about my phone being damaged some days ago, and just like you when I woke up I thanked the lords
We are so obsessed xD

Major Galaxy S II issue that needs to be brought to light!

Hey everyone, I know this is going to be a lengthy post but do please read on and feel free to post your thoughts.
Here's the story... I have had my Galaxy S II for 4 weeks now and every phone call I have made & received has been problematic. Everybody I spoke to was complaining about poor quality, an echo to be more specific, they reported their own voice was being echoed back but the call is always fine on my end. What this means is the call is almost impossible to hear for the other person and they end up calling me back on another phone, its driving me mad and it really is a big issue so I decided to get it exchanged with the company I got it from (Dial-A-Phone). I only arranged the exchange today so I have to wait 3 - 5 days for the bag to arrive to post it back in.
In the meantime I was looking online to see if anyone else had this problem and I can across a thread on AndroidForums (Can't post a link here because im a new user). So it looks like it's not just me its actually a lot of people and seems like it's most Galaxy S II's! Reading the posts on the thread its clear to see that the problem only exists when a case is on the phone and that is exactly what I have been finding (I have a CaseMate Gelli).
So this is now making me think exchanging it will be pointless as the new unit will most likely be exactly the same... I did some more looking around and was pretty shocked to find how many people have this issue. I simply searched Google for "Samsung Galaxy S2 call echo" and there are a lot of results, they are all the same issue just on different forums and posted by many different people.
So my options are as follows: Not use a case which I don't want to do because I want to protect this expensive phone, take it out of the case everytime I get a phone call but that is not practical in any way! people have also said to turn off Noise Reduction when a call connects but again I don't want to have to hit "Menu" > "NR" everytime I answer or place a call! Other people say that putting tape over the Noise Reduction mic and cutting bigger mic holes in the cases makes the problem better... But once again I should NOT have to do this! I should be able to use the phone with all functions normally with a case as protection, especially as this is one of the best phones of the year, costs about £500 and none of the other brands such as HTC have problems like this!
A friend of mine who also has this issue showed me an Amazon.co.uk case review entitled "The FACTS about the Galaxy S2 echo problem & the Case-Mate Tough Case" (Again; Can't post a link) but another person who has had the issue and Samsung even tried to cover it up by discontinuing their own case because it was uncovering a problem with their flagship phone.
Anyway that's probably enough on the subject but I just thought this needs to be brought to people's attention and I am also stuck on what to do, As I said I should not have to do any silly workarounds or not use a case, and exchanging it is 99% certain to be pointless... All I can think of is get the replacement phone brand new, don't open it and sell it on eBay brand new then buy a different phone like a Galaxy Nexus for example. But it does annoy me because I love the Galaxy S II, it's a great phone in every way, its just this that ruins it.
Finally, what do you guys think I should do?
Thanks for reading this and feel free to contribute, I just think this needs to be brought to light instead of just secluded in various forums, afterall, its a phone and if the phone calls are useless it's not going to be very good for many people.

You really should search the SGS2 threads before posting. This issue is old news and if you search you will find tweaks to solve the problem.
Edit: But if you reply you will get your post count up a bit

I never had this problem since i bought it, but it's a scary thought since i am doing a lot of calling with it.
I just talked to my G.F. she said my voice comes threw like butter, no problems on any end.
But i do use a plastic casing for my Sgs2, maybe the metal case that you use is the problem my friend, why not try the plastic one's?.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I've had absolutely no issues with call quality either on my end or the person I've been speaking to. None of my friends who have a SII have complained about it either.
Now it may seem like a lot of people are complaining on forums, but Samsung have reportedly sold 10 million units according to an article on Cnet in October. How many complaints have been made in comparison to that number? I doubt it will be as high as 0.1%. So to claim that it "seems like it's most Galaxy S II's!" is a bit over dramatic. Have you really seen about 8 million (that to me would roughly equate to most), different users on one forum? Keeping in mind that it probably the same people moaning on the different forums.
Personally I'd say go for the replacement, the SII is by far the best phone I've ever had. Yes like any electronics there's going to be issues, but I'd be willing to bet the call echo issue is for a small minority of handsets.

I use the samsung official case, vented back cover, not the best protection but i never mess with noise reduction, volume on my end is normally set half way (otherwise the whole world can hear both ends of my conversation) and it has worked perfectly fine, clear as crystal since day 1.
After getting a drink spilled on mine, and subsequently replacing the charge port PCB which also houses the microphone and speaker connectors, i can tell you that there are clear variations in hardware, although minor, still significant enough to potentially be a problem.
It may be totally unrelated but if you search general for "charge port problem" you can see the discussion on different hardware revisions.
Failing that, the easy test is to try this without your case on, also try lowering speaker volume during call and try even blocking the NR mix hole, if nothing fixes it, then its clearly a hw problem and so should really be replaced by Dial A Phone or Sammy.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

ajh94 said:
So it looks like it's not just me its actually a lot of people and seems like it's most Galaxy S II's!
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Yep, i agree. Quite cleary most GS2s are faulty because some people have mentioned it on a forum. Nevermind the other 10 million people that havent. Lets generalise anyway

As mentionned, old news. Workaround posted on multiple threads. Alot of people just deactivated noise reduction in the dialer... Next caller please!

skimminstones said:
Yep, i agree. Quite cleary most GS2s are faulty because some people have mentioned it on a forum. Nevermind the other 10 million people that havent. Lets generalise anyway
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^^^^
This.
And I've had my SGS2 since May and also use the Case-Mate Tough Case. But thanks for bringing this major issue to light that appears to effect you and maybe three other people.

BarryH_GEG said:
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This.
And I've had my SGS2 since May and also use the Case-Mate Tough Case. But thanks for bringing this major issue to light that appears to effect you and maybe three other people.
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LOL! Yeah dude, I've been using the phone for 7 months now, no issues of this sort at all. Had a hard case, moved to a soft case a few months later (it was a gift) and all my calls have been fine

ajh94,
So you have eliminated the possible issues originated from the network operators?

No problem here, too.

Yeah I have the same problem but seem to have mostly fixed it.
I removed the rubber housing the microphone as it seemed to be blocking the hole and made the microphone hole larger by wedging a small screwdriver in it.
But I agree with some of the other posts, there are ship loads if threads on this topic. I have posted specifics of my fix on one of them.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

Wasn't aware of this problem at all.
Had mine since May, been using a Casemate "Barely There" since September, no problems at all here.

OMG.... my SGS-II must be faulty as I didn´t receive any complaints from my callers since I got my SGS-II in May

skimminstones said:
Yep, i agree. Quite cleary most GS2s are faulty because some people have mentioned it on a forum. Nevermind the other 10 million people that havent. Lets generalise anyway
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not being funny but do you think everyone who owns phone looks at forums reports problems or even notice them. Example nice lady where i work thought her sII was perfect, I looked at it showed her pink spot and yellow tint on screen she hadent noticed and wasent that bothered tbh but point being it was there yes its wrong to generalise but arent you doing the same ?

tonnytech said:
not being funny but do you think everyone who owns phone looks at forums reports problems or even notice them. Example nice lady where i work thought her sII was perfect, I looked at it showed her pink spot and yellow tint on screen she hadent noticed and wasent that bothered tbh but point being it was there yes its wrong to generalise but arent you doing the same ?
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So a nice lady showed you her new phone to you and your natural reaction was to show her "faults" with the phone that she hadn't even noticed?

Let's make sure we eliminate the network operator before creating such bold statements as "major issue". I know tons of people that own this phone at not any of them have reported this issue. Trust me, I'd here about it if there was one.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

So is there a fix for this? Because my phone does the same thing when i receive and make calls. I know someone said to lower to noise.reduction on the dailer. But no clue where to find or how to do that. Thanks.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Solutions:
- Send it to the service center, they should replace the mic with a newer revision.
- Disable Noise Reduction. It's only available during a call and cannot be disabled permanently (Unless phone is rooted, see below), so you have to manually disable on each call.
- You can disable it permanently if your phone is rooted, by using VillianTweaks 1.3.1. There is a fix by LeoMar that supposedly work.
- Use a cover that doesn't cover the top and bottom sides. I've heard that the Case-Mate Barely There cases work, haven't tried it though.
Check this thread for more details.
I have the same problem and my phone is currently at the Samsung service center, though they seemed clueless about the problem so I'm not holding my breath.

tonnytech said:
not being funny but do you think everyone who owns phone looks at forums reports problems or even notice them. Example nice lady where i work thought her sII was perfect, I looked at it showed her pink spot and yellow tint on screen she hadent noticed and wasent that bothered tbh but point being it was there yes its wrong to generalise but arent you doing the same ?
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Thats my point. Do you think of the 10million GS2s sold that they all have a "major fault" because of a few people mentioning it on a forum?
The vast majority of mobile phone users dont use forums to either report a fault or not to. Using a forum as proof of anything is ridiculous.
If there was a "major issue" do you not think it would be all over the news with 10million units sold? How many of the new nexus phones were sold before the volume bug was reported everywhere?

What protective case are you going with? (show us pictures)

Sorry, wrong section of the forum.
Thanks slim

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I ran a search and didn't see anything. sorry if i missed it.
I just pre ordered my 3S (Verizon-US) today, hoping to get it in my hands in the next couple weeks. We are talking about a big phone here and having any kind of case will obviously add bulk regardless to how minimal like the case mate barely there options.
For those of you who are getting this phone or those of you who already have it in hand, What case are you using/thinking about getting?
I have only dropped one of my phones twice that I can remember so I'm not concerned about getting any kind of otterbox style protection case. I'm pursonally thinking about the white case mate "barely there". I have it for my current thunderbolt and it serves it's purpose, which is to provide minimal protection but enough to prevent small incidents.
if you have a case already, I'd love to see picts.
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Because you didn't search in the accessories section my friend.

AHHHHH. sorry, dont have a ton of experience with this site yet even though i lurk around from time to time. Thanks for the heads up.