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I have the latest rom and want to sign up for push email using outlook so my diary is always up to date too, anyone recommended a good provider
Cheers
Chris
Which country are you in?
Personally I am using intellisync and DON'T need the push email update.
And I am getting full replication of my diary, contacts, emails, notes etc.
My Blackberry has been handed back to my IT department.
EXCELLENT.
Robin
PS I am in the UK
How does Intellisync work? I've been to their website, but just get a load of rubbish - nothing on how it actually works.
Does it use GPRS, Wi-Fi?
Intellisync
Thats exactly what i have just though reading it, all i want is to have my outlook email, contacts and diary always up to date and email sent to my device as it arrives
fastmail
I use fastmail for my imap pushmail. It's not suitable for contacts/calendar sync.
M
I use t´his, I use that......Nice to know
But, how does it work, where do i get it and so on.....
I need a system to get my mail pushed or "blackberried" to my MDA Vario
I have a debian/confixx-Server, is there maybe any software that i can install to use this for email-push. If this is so, i woul give acces to XDA.developers-users
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
@oltp
How do you achieve 'pushmail' using fastmail? I too have an imap fastmail account but I can not get it to 'push' my emails.
You're damn lucky, I almost backed-out of this thread. You need a third-party pushmail client. I use vgsmail for this http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ Mind you it isn't perfect, so I only use it for private mail not for business mail. My company doesn't allow that anyway. The support & updates from the developer are ok though.
Cheers, M
Another web sync site www.plaxo.com
regards, M
free opensource application for your server to get push email:
Sync4j
has aslo been reviewed at msmobiles.com
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4892.html
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
I'm trialling pocket x-press. No frills - not cheap, but it seems to do what I want.
https://www.pocketxpress.com/
pj123 said:
Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
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Sorry.
It does say Intellisync in a number of places but here is the website of the company I am actually using.
http://www.esemail.net/
Sorry about that.
Robin
Thanks
Thanks Robin,
That looks interesting, but I can't find a monthly cost anywhere on their website. Don't like the idea of signing up for a free 14 day trial without knowing the costs.
Would you please tell us how much you pay per month?
Thanks
plaxo is free
Its not cheap.
I thik about £15 a month.
But for me, only having to carry one device AND always having a fully upto date diary and email is a REAL boon and worth it.
Robin
If anyone wants a free way to get push e-mail, you just need an exchange server. If your company doesn't have one, you can get one for FREE from mail2web.com.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
g0nk said:
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Hi
I'm currently running a mail server on a dedicated box (host @ datacenter 30€/month) under linux with courrier-imap. There is a way to implement IMAP IDLE function, that is almost the same than pushing emails.
I actualy tested it without FAM (File Alteration Monitor). Fam allow you to have a realtime email like blackberry. I don't need it, the basic IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE do a check every minutes and update if there is a mail.
I tested this feature through telnet and it worked lovely.
Now, in order to be able to use this feature over your windows mobile, you have the choice between to softwares.
The first is vgsmail http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ (free trial)
This one will just enable the IMAP IDLE feature on your pocket outlook (seems to be the more elegant way to implement it)
The second is WIS Flexmail 2007 (search at google ) (free trial)
This one is a new client (i don't like to change my use personnaly)
The major problem of the both solutions is that you have to pay for it.
Does anyone can do a patch for pocket outlook to implement imap idle fonction on it ?
Regards.
Reference thread: Here
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
Knockz said:
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
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Hi, thanks for your tips, btw i like to know something, is it a standalone program or a plugin for pocket outlook ?
Regards.
Its an addon for pocket outlook that manages the account and the push functionality. It also does other types of accounts. It gave me push email for my work account and pop accounts.
You still read/reply and manage your emails using pocket outlook.
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Fantastic, gonna test it tomorrow !
Thanks buddy !
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I tested this solution, sounds like a third party server is getting email from your server :/. It won't be a problem if this project didn't looks like another commercial push (visto like).
Actualy Seven is acting like a visto, sevens server try to fetch mail ~2mn and push it on they proprietary client, who is pushing the message @ pocket outlook.
It means that my mail is going through seven mail server and Seven has all access granted to my mailbox.
I'm just looking for a soft (without thrid party server checking) enabling the IMAP IDLE fonction.
Test of vgsmail & flexmail
I tried to test them with imap idle
vgsmail has been renamed to EmansioPushMail, great, but it just crash my Hermes (Schap's 3.54 ROM). Tried an old cab called Vsgmail-Pushmail.cab (looks like an old beta). Result is the same (just with a different program name )
flexmail is working with imap idle correctly, but it's eating up all my memory (92% busy). So my Hermes just finish to crash cause it don't get enough memory (GPRS+Flexmail+msn+Audio Player).
The both solution are non free ...
Is there a chance to get imap idle implemented on pocket outlook someday ?
A desesperate Linux's mail server admin.
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
VOODOOS!L said:
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Hi,
Actualy, the option that you are using is wasting a lot of bandwith.
Send/Receive procedure
1/ contact imap/pop server
2/ auth on it
3/ check message
This have an effective cost of bandwith (wich is limited to 10mo/month in my case)
It means that if you use this system you gonna waiste almost all bandwith just to check if there is some mails.
Imap Idle procedure
1/ contact/auth once
2/ enter idle mode
3/ server send a notification to the client entered in idle mode
This solution permit to don't waste bandwith and provide a real push solution (you have to install File Alteration Monitor on your mail server in order to get it) withouth FAM it works also but you can get a delay (less than 1mn).
This solution is the best cause you are not dependant of a third party who's all access on your mailbox (specialy for work purposes)
We don't want to set up any microsoft server or exchange servers (linux ftw).
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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I gave a try on it, it doesn't implement imap idle feature, thanks anyway
VOODOOS!L said:
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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ok, thx for the clarification!
if the IDLE and lemonade would work in Pocket Outlook, would we be able to get push email in combination with the new GMail IMAP support? would be nice and cheap I guess
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
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If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
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Unfortunately, i don't have any free sms service :/
VOODOOS!L said:
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
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It doesn't support IMAP IDLE - see my related articles
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
Menneisyys said:
no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
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Hi, very interesting article !
Thanks for the link.
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
I'll back to you when i'll get more information.
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I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
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Anything new on this?
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Anything new on this?
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vgsmail is now Emansio:
http://www.emansio.com
and in my testing it still (version 20070916143800) seems unreliable and buggy on my Kaiser (WM6). Great idea, I wish the darn task manager icon could be removed, and I wish it worked properly. Price is high in USD with the current exchange rates, but I might be able to stomach the basic license if it worked....
Richard
Does the Blackstone support imap idle or another kind of pushmail solution?
Yeah, there is support for Direct Push through an exchange server, or for Imap4/Idle through 3rd party solutions like Fleximail or this promising free one http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
While Imap has the advantage of WLAN compatiblity, I still have to check the effect on battery life
perfect! I'm thinking of changing my email-domain to Domainfactory, which offers free Push-mail http://www.df.eu/germany/produkte/mymail.htmla
I wanted to make sure that both (Domainfactory and Touch HD) will work together.
Would be nice to hear your report of battery life.
can you use push-mail with gmail like on the g1 ?
@bug-i
I am using the free http://live.mail2web.com/ Direct Push for years. Only disadvantage over Imap is that one cannot send email with your choosen email address, you have to use theirs. But lately I am using Imap only, because it works better with different mobile operating systems
@L0ser
Yes, with the free PocketOutlook plugin mentioned in my post.
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can you use push-mail with gmail like on the g1 ?
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Would really be interesting if there is a solution to use push-mail with gmail...
Well, you could forward your gmail to a free push provider, and sync gmail that way. But I think Imap is a easier solution, and not bound to Microsoft or RIM.
anyone got web2mail to push email to their HTC?
Hi chaps,
I wondered if any of you have got this to work? I've followed all the instructions setting up a free push email account with web2mail and setup activesync to receive messages as they arrive, but I still dont get the email until I manually sync.
The only thing I think maybe breaking it, is the fact that I have setup nodata on my htc as my carrier charges loads for using data (I have wifi switched on and connected instead)
Any ideas chaps?
Imap Idle with gmail support, scheduling, etc... Look for email scheduler, it is posted here at xda, and avail here. I am curious how it works on the Blackstone.
I was wondering if its possible to get pushmail for gmail without using outlook ?
Is this possible ? Am I supposed to use IMAP or POP mail ?
Please help, thanks
If you setup mail, it will automatically setup for IMAP.
You configure for how often it checks the server.
Thanks I just did that, but the problem is it checks every 5 minutes, thats not exactly push mail is it ?? It should have the option "As mail arrives"
I tried deleting an email from my inbox, but when I check online, its still there (the actual gmail inbox) .. it seems they are not really in function are they ?
EDIT : Okay The messages got deleted in the browser inbox after 5 minutes ... So the email syncs every 5 minutes
How can I make it an instant connection (pushmail) ??
Actually Outlook Mobile 2007/2010 still pulls from IMAP instead of receiving pushes (Microsoft doesn't exactly know about IDLE). You'll want to set up an Exchange connection. See here for more details about Google Sync.
You'll want to configure the server manually. You can find ActiveSync somewhere into your Start menu, otherwise just go to the Sense settings tab, Data Service and ActiveSync to configure the server, then follow the instructions from the link above.
Thank you very much, that worked, and I can choose "As item arrives" now
One last thing, is it possible to change the email name from Outlook to something else ? e.g. Gmail ?
ZaZu90, what domain did you choose while configuring the connection? I can't click next unless I choose a domain, since the activesync software is different and probably newer than the one used in the google instructions...
I followed Yunabeco's link, the domain was left blank.
You have to initiate the email settings from active sync, not from adding a new account.
Check the intsturctions ^^
Yes I am trying to do the same but as I said I cannot leave the domain blank, i HAVE to fill in something in order to continue configuring the connection...
And apparently I am not the only one with this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5382949&postcount=4
Hmm this is strange, does it have to do with the location of purchase ?
Im not sure :S
I don't think it has to do with the location of purchase. Thanks for your help though. I am using dutty's holy grail 0.3a rom (wm6.5 build 21889, Base 2.01). What are you using?
Chaps,
have you had a look at this ....http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636
Might help you.
WB
Yea, that's the same document as earlier in this thread, but the problem is that the instructions don't work on some devices.. see the previous page
I just did the Push Mail setup (used the link from Yunabeco post)
I had no problem with the instructions, but for some reason it will only get the mail when I do an ActiveSync.
The ActiverSync chedule is set to sync during Peak times (As Items arrive) and off-peak times (As Items arrive).
The Use above settings and Send/Receive when I click Send) are als set to on.
Did I miss a setting as it's not working for me the way it should, or do I need to set something in my Gmail account also?
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Yea, that's the same document as earlier in this thread, but the problem is that the instructions don't work on some devices.. see the previous page
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Barty,
Surprised at this. I set this up the other day on my device in order to talk someone through it and it worked. Deleted it as I don't need push mail right now.
Wondered if those who can't get it working can put down the steps they have taken to setup on their devices and we can see how we can help?
WB
I wonder if its possible to set up multiple push mail accounts ?
Gonna search for that now, if anyone got a link before I finish my little research, please add it !