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How stable is your Wizard - mine is getting on my nerves!

I feel like complaining. I don't know if this is the right place, but hopefully someone here will help me find a stable OS version and I will not ever change it again.
I have been upgrading to what looked like great version of AKU, from 2.2 to 3.0 and they all seem to have the same problems:
1. without moving anywhere, i will loose the EDGE or phone connection and won't be able to get it back until i reset the phone!
2. my phone will turn off for no reason in the middle of the night, especially of course, if i have set up the alarm for an important meeting.
3. while playing a podcast, the sound will stop for .5 sec, work fine for 3 min, and stop again...
4. when i plug it to my PC for sync it is not always recognized. again a reset helps.
I know, we are used to software not working, but a phone is a pretty critical piece...
For your info, I am currently using Molski 3.2, on my QTEK 9100, and i have not installed anything else, not even the cabs provided...
If someone has never had any problems with his Wizard, please let me know everything about your OS, i'll be happy to give it a try...

I haven't had any of those problems with my Wizard.
I would suggest taking a look at software you have installed... I bet something is causing problems with your device.
Do you have any unusual programs installed?
Heck, just list everything you've got installed...

I use the latest official ROM for the KJam from i-Mate, and it's solid as a rock.
Also tried some cooked ROM's, but went back to the official ROM very quickly.
Ok it lacks some neat features, but it does the work it's supposed to do.

Try the Superrom 1.1...
I've installed it after long time using i-mate ROM...but it's the Fastest and the best ROM i've ever used.

If you don't want the latest, but want something that is pretty much solid and stable, get T-Mobile's 2.26 ROM. Just don't install the extrom from it.

Booting my MDA Pro takes very long

When I boot my MDA pro it takes a very long time (1 minute and 55 seconds). I compared it with another one and that one took only a few seconds to boot (maybe 10 ror 20 seconds).
Anyone have an idea what could be causing this delay?
I installed the latest ROM official ROM from T-Mobile and the other one has an older version. Does that matter so much?
Or more importantly some way to fix it? Maybe a hard reset. I hope not that ahard reset is th eonly way, but it's starting to annoy me a lot.

Boot time depends on..
1.what ROM are you using. Generally, the latest ones are fast. Also, think about putting on WM5 AKU3.x ROM on your universal. They are lightning fast
2. It also depends on how much you have loaded your universal with applications. Generally, more apps means slower boot

I'm usin gthe T-Mobile version from their website. It's called UNI_TMNL_130115_130233_11003_WWE_BL101_Ship. To be honest I don't know what AKU version that is, but I think it's 2.0.
Maybe I should try finding an AKU 3.5 version then. Tried the Wiki, but couldn't find it right away. Will try to find one later.
I didn't realize software might be a problem. My today screen is quite empty, but maybe something installs while booting.

patrickl said:
I didn't realize software might be a problem. My today screen is quite empty, but maybe something installs while booting.
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Well, it does not matter what is there on your today screen. What matters is how much(and in what way) have you installed the applications on your PPC.
Links for AKU 3.5 helmi: I have given them on this site. Take a look at that thread.
http://www.indippc.com/v3/index.php?topic=1079.msg6978

OK thanks for your help. I guess the 1.3.1 version is my best bet then.
I'm not a big fan of flashing again, but I guess my ROM version is so old it should be better to get a new one anyway.

OK I got the heimi AKU 3.5 1.3.1 installed. Seems to work Ok and booting is now in 35 seconds. Guess that's normal.
I cannot get it to connect to the internet through GPRS though. I ran a tool to install the T-Mobile settings (from the QTek site). My MDA Pro does try to connect to T-Mobile, but it never gets the connection.
It does connect over WLAN and I just love the high res Internet Explorer setting.
Guess I better go back to the older official ROM from T-Mobile since I really need the GPRS for getting my e-mail when I'm on the move.

Woohoo, finally found a fix in another thread here.
Seems I need to use CHAP and change the name of the APN to internet instead of internet-act.
BTW Again, thanks a lot for your help Kamal.

patrickl said:
Woohoo, finally found a fix in another thread here.
BTW Again, thanks a lot for your help Kamal.
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Anytime Buddy take care

HTC TyTN (HTC Hermes 300) very slow and sluggish

Hi there,
I'm new to this forum - and new to the whole Windows Mobile idea as I'm normally an avid Apple fan but I do make an exception when it comes to the phone as the iPhone (as of yet) is quite 'useless' when it comes functionality and flexibility compared to a Windows Mobile device.
In either case, I've recently flashed my MDA Vario II and, after having used Black Satin for a day or two, put on Schap's 3.60a WM6 ROM. The only reason i did not like Satin was that it combined the inbox/outbox for MMS and SMS messages (knowing my luck I'm sure there would have been an easy way around that).
Right, ever since I put on the WM6 ROM and installed a few other applications, such as Spb's Mobile Shell, Spb Weather, etc etc the phone seems to be incredibly sluggish and slow. I did a full re-set and then installed one application at a time to see if it has something to do with a particular bit of software. But I don't think that's the case as the phone acts pretty slow even with nothing installed after the hard re-set. But now, after a few days, it takes, for example, around 15seconds to show the Windows directory using either File Explorer or Resco's explorer. The start-up progress, especially the transition from the Splash Screen to the standard Home Screen is incredibly slow and happens in stages. It then takes about another 30 seconds for the keypad to come up, asking for my PIN.
I've been running all sorts of utilities such as MemMaid, PocketMechanic and SKTools to make sure that the device is in 'mint' condition but, if at all, this made little change to the overall speed.
I expected the phone to run slightly slower under WM6 compared to WM5 as, strictly speaking, the TyTN, as I understand it, was not designed with WM6 in mind - which may be the reason why a lot of providers here in the UK do not offer a WM6 upgrade. However, the phone has become uncomfortably slow and sluggish so is there any way to speed it up or is this a known issue with WM6 on the TyTN?
Also, not sure this is the right forum for this but I also tried to set up Direct Push and it works fine - only problem I have is that it does not seem to support WiFi (it does when I check manually but as soon as I utilise the Direct Push function, the phone insists to connect to the 3G network). Now this is not necessarily a big problem as I've got an unlimited data plan but when at home I am using WiFi and there is little point in having both switched on, WiFi and the Data Connection as that does drain the battery. Again, any ideas to solve this would be appreciated
Thank you guys

Hello mate,
Not sure why you are having the problems you are having. Anyway I run Schaps on my Tytn (see my sig), together with SPB products without any problems at all. The whole lot is rock solid.
My suggestion would be that you re-flash your device with the combination of ROM and Radio that I use, given I have confirmed no issues. If that works then you have at least proved your device is ok. If it doesn't work then your problem lies elsewhere, probably with the device.
Strong advice - make absolutely sure you have done all the things and taken all the precautions outlined in Mr Vanx's excellent guides (see here http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/)
I will track this thread to see how you get on.
Cheers
WB

Hello there...
How was your device under Satin? I am running Satin on an 8525, and it runs ok. Black Satin is also a WM6 rom. I am running HTC home, pocket breeze and iLauncher. SPB tends to let it slower, but not that slow for sure.
I suggest you read through the specific thread of Schaps 3.60. I am not sure, but i once read a few posts, and if i recall correctly, there were some problems with the version. Either that or 3.57... don't know for sure.
I also suggest re-flashing with a different rom. Or, read through the Satin thread here at XDA-devs or at 4winmobile, and there might be a fix for the mms/sms thingy. Then go back to Satin. There is also the Black X going on, but I think it is still beta...
Just don't forget to follow Mr. Vanx precautions, specially installing HardSPL v7, if you don't want a bricked device.
Let us know how it goes

Hey there,
Thanx for replying. I have been thinking about re-flashing the ROM but to see if that helps. I have been playing with the phone a lot so I may have somehow done something which I shouldn't have - whatever that may be :S
Can I ask ... in your sig you state that the 1.50 Radio is very buggy - what are the issues with it, cos I am using that one and was wondering if that could possibly be related to it?

Thanx for the replies guys. I've decided to re-flash the ROM and, it seems to be working fine again. I actually think the phone works slightly faster now as it did under the T-Mobile WM5 ROM. I haven't updated the Radio and stuck to 1.50 as I've read somewhere that it's working fine for the UK (lemme know if I'm wrong - they say there would be a noticable improvement in 3G reception, but I haven't seen that, but I dont seem to have any major issues with 1.50)
So, fingers crossed the phone won't slow down again - which I guess it shouldn't and I'll be careful what I install on it, making sure I have the latest versions of everything.
Thanx again for all your suggestions

Flipside,
Radio 1.50 caused me loads of problems; dropped calls, not being able to make a call for no reason, people not being able to reach me even though the phone was on and in an excellent signal area, having to reboot to get the radio to switch on, etc, etc.
Have not looked back since i went to 1.47. The lesson learnt for me was not to jump at the latest radio rom, just because its the latest. Latest does not necessarily mean best for ones particular circumstances.
Cheers
WB

Cingular 8525 odd issue and locking up.

I had my Cingular 8525 for over a year and never had a lock up or screen of death until few days ago.
I been using Hard-SPL v7 and vp3G 6.x.x+ but recently I tried installing 6.1 then experineced memoray loss or drain that I have to keep resetting it often so I went back to vp3G.
When flashing rom in the past I would click Auto Detect on RUUWrapper since I have Hard-SPL v7 installed and it would detect the Hard-SPL and select the Hard-SPL, but after flashing 6.1 and going back will only give me an "error can't query device" so I manually select the Hard-SPL and it would flash fine with my manual selection.
Now I been going back and forth between the vp3G and varity of 6.1 roms by manually selecting the Hard-SPL in RUUWrapper since it could no longer query my bootloader but now I notice my device is locking up on it own that I am reseting almost every hour or so.
So thinking maybe bootloader problem I reflashed Hard-SPL v7 and no improvement so I reflash factory ROM using Hard-SPL and RUUWrapper but still no improvement and then reflash back to vp3G but it still locking up daily.
Strangest thing is that I know when it going to lock up because the 8525 would be sleep and LCD power off but it will wake up on it own and lock up LCD staying on all the time but frozen that it would drain my battery quickly so I have to reset it and recharge it if I didn't catch it earlier.
I check info 8 and no bad blocks at all on it.
Any idea what may be causing this lock up? I am hoping it something I can fix before thinking about buying a new PDA.
Thank for all your inputs and replies!
Bill

try flashing back to stock rom then to rom of choice. theres been a lot of people saying this helps.. Hope it helps you too..... cheers

Just one or two other things to consider:
1
Had you done the fake server trick to stop Acive Sync starting on your old set up? May be worth doing it again if it is Active Sync auto-starting that is causing the crashes.
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I assume this does not haappen at exactly the same time every day. If it does then some alarm or notification may be the cause. Otherwise think about whether there are any self starting / synchronising apps installed - typically weather checkers, mail (push / pull, time sync etc etc.
Mike

ultramag69 said:
try flashing back to stock rom then to rom of choice. theres been a lot of people saying this helps.. Hope it helps you too..... cheers
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Yes I have flashed back to stock rom (latest 8525 rom from HTC site for AT&T) but I couldn't flash it with it own romupdate because of the Hard-SPL so I took out the RUU_signed.nbh and flashed it with the RUUWrapper then tried it for a few days but it still locked up.
I have not try putting the bootloader back to stock yet because I didn't think it would made any difference.
I have reflashed it back with VP3G now and so far it only locked up once in the last day so maybe it stopped doing it. I am not sure yet.
I am thinking if it lock up again to flash the stock bootloader back on it before flashing stock rom with it own romupdate. Do you think that will help any?
Bill

mikechannon said:
Just one or two other things to consider:
1
Had you done the fake server trick to stop Acive Sync starting on your old set up? May be worth doing it again if it is Active Sync auto-starting that is causing the crashes.
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I assume this does not haappen at exactly the same time every day. If it does then some alarm or notification may be the cause. Otherwise think about whether there are any self starting / synchronising apps installed - typically weather checkers, mail (push / pull, time sync etc etc.
Mike
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I don't have any alarm or notification enabled for anything but incoming txt or emails. I am using Active Sync to check my email on the exchange server but I been doing this for over a year with no problems until the lock up issue recently.
I am still showing no bad blocks on info 8 so I am puzzled what may be causing the lock up but right now I have flashed it back to VP3G rom and only locked up once so far for a day and it seem to be working now without lock ups. I hope it stopped now but I sure wish I knew what was causing the lock ups.
Bill

I spoked too soon and jinxed myself, it still locking up .. rats!
Anyone know if it can be the Hard-SPL v7 bootloader causing the lockups?
I am not really wanting to flash it with oringal bootloader cuz I know anytime you flash bootloader you run a risk of bricking it.
Thanks
Bill

What about battery? The battery is orignal and over a year old but it still seem to be holding charge and charging fine thou.
Anyone experience similar issue and it turn out to be bad battery?
Bill

Would keeping it plugged into the USB slot so that it continually charges and provides ample power be a way of isolating the battery?
I had this happen to my old iPAQ 6365 before, one of the batteries, after about a year of usage, started to cause my iPAQ to lock up randomly. Switching back to the original HP battery solved it.

YorYor said:
Would keeping it plugged into the USB slot so that it continually charges and provides ample power be a way of isolating the battery?
I had this happen to my old iPAQ 6365 before, one of the batteries, after about a year of usage, started to cause my iPAQ to lock up randomly. Switching back to the original HP battery solved it.
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I had to plugged in usb slot and it still locks up after awhile while plugged in.
Bill

I removed the Hard-SPL today and went back to latest stock rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship .. it errored out while flashing and I was still in tri-mode screen so I restarted the computer and reflashed then it went all the way and device restarted but wouldn't boot past after that flying AT&T signal bars so I hard reset it and it went all the way installing the AT&T customization stuffs.
Now I am running on stock rom and stock bootloader so I will see if it still lock up. If it does then I am either gonna try upgrade or get another battery somewhere.
Do Wal Mart or Best Buy or any major retailers sell 8525 batteries? I know they sell some certain model PDA and cell phone batteries but not sure on 8525 thou.
Thanks
Bill

i doubt you will find a battery in walmart or bestbuy. your best bet would be an at&t store, but that too might not be so certain, as the 8525 has been phased out. check the accessories subforum, plenty of threads there on batteries.

It seem to be the media "storage" card that was causing it to lock up randomly because after I reflashed it back to stock bootloader/rom it contiune to lock up randomly until I removed the media card to get it ready to have it check out at the store and it stopped locking up randomly and worked all day long today without a problem. Even the memory leak issue I was having stopped as well too.
Strange that I don't have anything install on the storage card other than just photos or pictures I been taking with my phone and some software I storage in there but not an application installed or anything like that.
I put the media card back in and damn thing got wiped completely. Oh well I lost some pictures but not a really big deal however it is strange that the media card got wiped when I tried to test with it again. Media card still works allowing binary files to be stored in it. I am going to leave it out for now since I don't really need it and only use it to store stuffs and pictures.
I wonder if WM 6.1 rom did something to the media card that going back to older WM 5 or 6 rom didn't like it and keep locking up and have memory leak issue. Maybe some new format on media card?
Just strange but I am happy that the phone last all day long without a hicup so far and I probably just jinxed myself tomorrow by posting this ha!
Bill

Ah great to hear you found the problem without having to spend some money and result in a spare battery.
But you'll probably still need to shell out some for a new memory card. I remember reading somewhere that Kingstons give the least problems. Is yours a Kingston? Might want to consider getting a new one just to see whether it's the old card giving way.
The worst scenario now would be some component in the whole circuit related to the microSD card slot starting to malfunction..

3 days now and no lockups or soft resetting! So the problem was caused by the media "storage" card.
It is a SanDisk 2Gig brand and I probably will try using it again since it been working fine for over a year.
Otherwise I'll probably just find whatever media card I can get locally like at Best Buy or Wal Mart so I could refund it if it turn out to be the internal storage card circuit not functioning or causing the lockup when there a media card in it.
If the internal circuit inside is busted then Ill just keep using the phone without a media card until I feel the time to upgrade it with something better.
I am hoping my 8525 will hold out and keep working until that Sony Ericsson is released as long I don't have a media card in it.
Bill

It been over a week now, no lockups or soft resetting!
Even the slow memory leak I was having is gone too.
Strange that a media card was causing all this problem for me, I haven't try to get another one yet or put my old one back in since I was busy and didn't really want to jinx myself after having a whole week of problem free Hermes.
I wanted to share it with all of you so if your experiencing a lock up or memory leak that seem to be coming from nowhere, try removing your media card and use the phone for a day without it to see how it is.
Bill

I am having similar problems with my 8525.
I have downgraded to ATT stock 6.0, and stock bootloader.
I have removed the memory card, even tried a different battery.
Smae problem, the phone locks up within a few minutes.
I have kept on charger, same problem. I have reflashed several roms, currently at ATT 6.0, with no memory card installed.
Example:I reset phone at 7:52, it worked until 7:58( I know this because that is where the clock is currently frozen) and I am typing this message at 8:22.
This is average....
This problem has started in the last week. I had been using Schaps 4.31 for Hermes for the last couple of months no problems until a week ago.
Any ideas, phone is month out of warranty.

mriebeling said:
I am having similar problems with my 8525.
I have downgraded to ATT stock 6.0, and stock bootloader.
I have removed the memory card, even tried a different battery.
Smae problem, the phone locks up within a few minutes.
I have kept on charger, same problem. I have reflashed several roms, currently at ATT 6.0, with no memory card installed.
Example:I reset phone at 7:52, it worked until 7:58( I know this because that is where the clock is currently frozen) and I am typing this message at 8:22.
This is average....
This problem has started in the last week. I had been using Schaps 4.31 for Hermes for the last couple of months no problems until a week ago.
Any ideas, phone is month out of warranty.
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Try removing battery and pull sim card to clean contact pads then put it all back in.
Bill

Problem solved, kinda
I called Cingular/AT&T
Shared my problem, I got lucky talking to a very help CS person, long story short, they sent me a brand new Tilt(not refurbished & they threw in a new case and car charger) for free, even though my warranty had expired.
Its not even Christmas!
I will be moving up to the Kaiser boards now, thank for the help.

End call doesn't end call...

I have the 8525 with WM6 installed. About 1 in 40 times, the End Call option doesn't display that the call ended (on my side). I attempt to still talk to the other person but I can't hear them, though. After about 2 minutes later, it finally ends the connection. I must do a soft reset to temporarily fix it; the only drawback is that the most previous call isn't shown as being made.
About 1 in 80 times, the call attempts to be made, but doesn't connect at all. I try to End Call, but it seems to "freeze" the screen. The "Close screen" seems to help, as in 30 seconds the device finally quits trying to connect.
Another thing I noticed, after the phone freezes, the antenna signal drops to zero and then returns to about 2 - 3 bars of signal, about 5 seconds later. I'm not sure if that is the cause of the phone hanging, or not. Is there any kind of software to resolve this issue? It's really annoying! Thanks for any help!

is that a cooked rom or official? what's your radio version and carrier?
I'm thinking u need a different radio verson...(u must have hardspl to flash another radio version)...

I got the 8525 as a reconditioned from AT&T about 3 weeks ago. It came with WM5, and I had the above calling issues back then too. I then was informed on the boards here to upgrade to WM6, which I downloaded from HTC, via the AT&T website link.
As for programs, I removed the AT&T "bloatware" via the hard reset trick. Later, I installed S2U2, HTC Streaming Media, HTweakC2.1b, and the PTTFix software. One other program on the 8525 is OCN8 -- for my iBlue 737 Bluetooth GPS device. There are no other files that I can recall, except maps, songs, internet .jpgs, and (camera) pictures/videos.
Settings:
ROM Version: 3.62.502.3
ROM Date: 10/11/07
Radio Version: 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version: 32.86u.7020.23H

I do appreciate and try to understand all of the replies that I receive, and I do try to respond within a timely manner. I understand that people are busy and may have other careers as well. However, the thing that makes me pull my hair out is when someone starts to assist my problem, then just ditches the thread after my reply, without so much as an "I'm sorry, but I'm not able to solve your problem" at the minimum! Normally, I give a 48 hour window for the helper or any more helpers to reply before I get frustrated, but it's been way past that timeframe now!
I've noticed that phenomenon on 3 of my prior posts, each are on different subjects. It seems that after the first reply, no one but the original helper responds! If that original helper is busy, or just forgets about the thread, then I'm screwed over.
Sorry to rant, but I tried looking all over the boards for the best Radio program. All I seem to find is best ROMs, but not really Radios. I've seen 2 other Radio programs in signatures, but I'm not sure what one would be best for my purposes. I've seen mention of 1.47.30 & 1.47.00.10 in some members' signatures, but I'm hesitant to just "trial and error" one, for fear it would damage my device. I currently have the WM6 default 1.54.07.00 version, but it freezes up on making some calls and more often on ending a current call.
Anyone else for ideas or opinions on what Radio program to use? Please back up your opinion with facts when possible. I am not an expert on the device, just a new user who is afraid to ruin my investment.
Much thanks to all who read this post and reply to it!

Hi, just saw your thread & did not know U were still hanging....
I would try radio 1.48.00.00 first, then 1.47.00.10 or 1.50.00.00 if necessary. Seem's a lot of at&t users liked 1.48 from what I noticed (don't forget hardspl - use mrvanx guide in the Mobile 6 forum section)...
Here's the 1.54 thread with pro's, con's, and 1.48 at&t comments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697&highlight=radio+1.48

galaxys said:
I would try radio 1.48.00.00 first, then 1.47.00.10 or 1.50.00.00 if necessary. Seem's a lot of at&t users liked 1.48 from what I noticed (don't forget hardspl - use mrvanx guide in the Mobile 6 forum section)...
Here's the 1.54 thread with pro's, con's, and 1.48 at&t comments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697&highlight=radio+1.48
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Thanks for the reply! I will do the hardspl first, then try to install the 1.48.00.00 Radio. I'll report back with details in a day or two.

My current Image Version is 3.62.502.3, and I am attempting to update it to 3.54.255.3.
I keep having errors while trying to install Radio Version 1.48.00.10 to my 8525, after opening RUU_Inside.exe on my laptop. I've even tried to install it from my microSD card, but I get the tri-color screen instead of the white background with text screen, shown in the online example. The 8525 ActiveSyncs to the computer fine, and the screen shows:
"Updating the ROM image on your PDA phone ...
Please do not remove the USB connection from the PDA Phone or launch any program during the update process.
Remember the operation will take about 10 minutes."
As soon as the above grey box pops up, ActiveSync drops after that box appears, then I get the following message:
"Error [260]: CONNECTION"
I've installed Hard-SPL v.7 onto the 8525 already. Not that it seems to make a difference, I believe, but other programs that are on it include: WMXL 8525 Keyboard Fix, S2U2 1.16, Resco Explorer 2008, PTTFix, MunduRadio, & HTweakC 2.1,

not sure, but did a "search" for error 260 & seems to be your pc usb port:
(use xda google search for any questions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368624
btw, u are using XP & not Vista on u'r pc.

My laptop has XP (Media Center Edition). I did a search as well, but it was dated back to 2007; I wondered if there was a newer fix than the one on that page, as it referenced the prior version of Hard-SPL. From the sounds of it, I have to install WM5 again, change the radio version (which was the only thing I need to adjust, as the voice calls have been a pain since day one), then reinstall all of my programs again.
I've heard people create ROMs. However, the radio settings can't be included in them . . . or am I off-base with that presumption? I am not that experienced to cook my own ROM, as I am still learning the nuances.

Well I broke down and went on AT&T's online chat. Sounds like there is no software to install to fix the issue. I hoped the radio version switch would help, but I couldn't get it to install! I guess it's back to the Replacement Depot on Sunday. I should return my device to WM5, which I hope to find the thread for on the board.
If interested, here's the key parts of the conversation:
Me: Hi, my 8525 is giving me trouble making and ending calls. It sometimes hangs, and doesn't quit trying to place the call. Once I reset it, it's fine until I try to end the call, it hangs up the call, but not showing so on my side
AT&T: Can you try hard shocking the phone for me please? A hard shock is taking the battery out while the phone is still powered on, and then power the phone back on once the battery is back in the phone.
Me: I received it as a reconditioned from the AT&T depot in Pittsburgh, PA. About 20 minutes later, it did the same thing, so I upgraded to WM6 and still the same issues
AT&T: If you continue to have these issues with this phone, you will need to take the phone back to the Device Support place where you got it from.
Me: Is that a common issue?
AT&T: Sometimes it is with at reconditioned phone.
. . .
AT&T does not have an update for the Windows Mobile 6 at this time. However you may check out HTC website at www.htcamerica.net/support/default.html and see if they have an update for this software for this phone.
Me: So it's the phone, not the software?
AT&T: Yes that is correct. There is a defect within the phone that is causing these issues. If you continue to have these issues with this phone, you will need to take the phone back to the Device Support place where you got it from.
Me: Are you able to explain what causes it that the Device Center doesn't catch it
AT&T: I am not sure what causes this issue.
Me: Like should there be anything done to prevent that from happening?
AT&T: It is hard to tell with reconditioned phones. It may be something that can be fixed and it may not. If the hard shock does not fix this issue and the Device Support cannot, then you will be given another phone.

ohpfan said:
My laptop has XP (Media Center Edition).
I've heard people create ROMs. However, the radio settings can't be included in them . . . or am I off-base with that presumption? I am not that experienced to cook my own ROM, as I am still learning the nuances.
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Ok, your signature is looking good and that is some conversation with good old at&t...bla bla bla
To answer your question above, the chefs cooked roms do not include radio (because everyone around the world uses a different one). But, the Official WM6 rom's do (posted wiki & wm 6 section). So, why don't u flash the official wm6 since u have hardspl now? This in itself may resolve u'r issue (if u don't get the driver pc 260 error)! why would u want to flash wm5?

I was going to return my 8525 to the Service Depot where I got it, is why I mentioned returning it back to WM5 status. However, I wanted to see if it could be fixed by software first, but considering the above online AT&T chat, I am definitely going to get it replaced again. So, I want the 8525 to not show my "3rd party software" to ruin the warranty. I had the 8525 to individually remove the CABs under Remove Programs, and then I did a Clear Memory to default for good measure. Hopefully the Service Depot won't say anything about the device being altered that way.
Oh yea, I am going to get it replaced on Thursday. I will try to get them to give me a new one, not a reconditioned. That is, if there are even any new ones around anymore! It'd be a miracle if they gave me a new 8925 Tilt instead . . . lol I know -- keep dreaming! Wish me luck with a new 8525 though!

Well, I exchanged my current 8525 for another reconditioned one. The repair guy actually asked if I heard of the xda website (for help with my device!), lol!! He didn't go into detail about what this site does, just asked if I heard about it, and I affirmed that I did. Possibly he found traces of programs that changed settings, but he didn't rat me out. He sounded like he was confident that he fixed the phone dialing issues, but gave me a new one "just in case".
As soon as he gave it to me, it booted right up, without the calibration screen. He flat out told me to calibrate it, but it didn't appear. I was trying to see if it would act up with the dialing again, but noticed it didn't save the numbers on my SIM! I then decided to get rid of the bloatware via the Clear Programs and that lead to the calibration screen, finally.
So far it seems to work fine! I made about 6 calls this time and they seem to end properly. There is a slight 30 second or so delay when I press the button with the "red phone symbol" [end call] before the screen lights up again though. Is that normal?
Oh, I've only loaded up S2u2 so far. I will reinsert the others onto my memory card today sometime before work.
Again, so far so good! Only real issue I see is that the ringer volume is very low when the device is in the carrying case I have it in. I will search on here for a ringer volume changer, soon!

Glad U were able to get another phone!
"red phone symbol" [end call] before the screen lights up again though. Is that normal?
No, should end in a few seconds...doesn't seem it's even assigned to the phone (U can use Schaps Advanced Config tool to do this and many more good tweeks).

galaxys said:
No, should end in a few seconds...doesn't seem it's even assigned to the phone (U can use Schaps Advanced Config tool to do this and many more good tweeks).
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The "end call" does it's job, just that the screen is dim then it takes like 30 seconds to brighten again to show that the call is ended. Possibly it's something I have set up wrong. I notice the blue backlight for the keypad doesn't light up until a minute of my typing on it for a text; it's like a delayed reaction.
(I have the unlimited text/pix/vid plan, as of this past Thursday.) A bit off-topic, but are the Yahoo, AOL, & MSN IM programs considered a text or do they use kilobytes of data? I could use the programs over the Wi-Fi if I had to, but I don't want to pay extra for data kilobytes.
Lastly, I have never downloaded the Schaps Configuration. What all settings should I change? I know it's mostly based on personal preference, but what are some common alterations using it? For instance, I set the alarm to wake up to, but it's only a short beep sound. If I really was sleepy, I would probably sleep right through it! Does this program (or any others) configure any song on my device to be the alarm? I've already done that to the ringtone (where the first 30 seconds of any song is my ringtone).

ohpfan said:
The "end call" does it's job, just that the screen is dim then it takes like 30 seconds to brighten again to show that the call is ended. Possibly it's something I have set up wrong. I notice the blue backlight for the keypad doesn't light up until a minute of my typing on it for a text; it's like a delayed reaction. check in Settings>System>Backlight & Keyboard Backlight.
(I have the unlimited text/pix/vid plan, as of this past Thursday.) A bit off-topic, but are the Yahoo, AOL, & MSN IM programs considered a text or do they use kilobytes of data? I could use the programs over the Wi-Fi if I had to, but I don't want to pay extra for data kilobytes. I don't use them, but it should be treated as MMS text.
Lastly, I have never downloaded the Schaps Configuration. What all settings should I change? I know it's mostly based on personal preference, but what are some common alterations using it? For instance, I set the alarm to wake up to, but it's only a short beep sound. If I really was sleepy, I would probably sleep right through it! Does this program (or any others) configure any song on my device to be the alarm? I've already done that to the ringtone (where the first 30 seconds of any song is my ringtone).
Schaps has a number of Performance, Power, UI settings, etc., but no alarm ringtones. U may not need Since u'r using HTweekC.
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