Contacts : Firstname/Surname order - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi all,
I do not think this is directly related to Windows/the phone or the combination but more to do with the target.
I have my contacts quite well sorted in Outlook or so I think.
The first names are in the firstname box and the surnnames/secondnames are in the correct box for that.
I beamed all the contacts over to my car sat nav system which has a bluetooth phone too (thanks to someone on here who added the select all feature - I wish I could remember his name!)
The problem is that the names on the system are secondname/firstname rather than firstname/secondname.
Firstly, is this a phone/OS issue or is this more to be the sat nav system?
When I try a Nokia 8800, it beams it over correctly which makes me think its the phone and/or the compatibility.
Does the OS store it as sn/fn but display it fn/sn by any chance?
Thanks!

akash_84 said:
Hi all,
I do not think this is directly related to Windows/the phone or the combination but more to do with the target.
I have my contacts quite well sorted in Outlook or so I think.
The first names are in the firstname box and the surnnames/secondnames are in the correct box for that.
I beamed all the contacts over to my car sat nav system which has a bluetooth phone too (thanks to someone on here who added the select all feature - I wish I could remember his name!)
The problem is that the names on the system are secondname/firstname rather than firstname/secondname.
Firstly, is this a phone/OS issue or is this more to be the sat nav system?
When I try a Nokia 8800, it beams it over correctly which makes me think its the phone and/or the compatibility.
Does the OS store it as sn/fn but display it fn/sn by any chance?
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269316&highlight=firstname
Mike

Thanks Mike, I've already seen this thread.
I don't think this is what I'm after though.
My Outlook has the contacts in the correct way... the fields are filled in and the "display as" is displayed always as firstname/secondname
My phone also has firstname/second name format exactly replicating Outlook.
the Issue is after beaming the contact from the phone to my navigation unit, the navigation unit interprets the name as secondname/firstname.
The question was that was this issue caused by the phone beaming it over wrongly, or the navigation unit not being able to see the data correctly

I think (I'm not an Outlook expert) that Outlook stores in whatever format it likes, most likely Surname Forename. Display as is a custom field generated for whatever - you could write anything in there.
However, when beaming, it's likely Outlook uses the substantive data, the proper Surname and Forename, and sends them in its default order.
V

I think you agree with my thought then in some way
That outlook views it in one way (whether its fn/sn or sn/fn I dont know)... once synced with the phone, the phone views it in the Display field way of Outlook but infact is stored in another way and THAT is the way it gets beamed over.
I think I'll do some changing about in contacts to see if anything works

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contacts in international format

Hi,
I had my contact numbers stored on the xdaII in international format, i.e +44…;+358… etc.
However when synchronising with contacts in Outlook 2003, Outlook always removes the + Very annoying…
I apologise if this has been discussed before, but I’m new and didn’t find anything related here
I have the same problem and still investigation about....strange! :evil:
This one had me flummoxed for a while too!
You have to go into control panel and then Phone and Modem options - put in a location and phone code that you are in and it should keep the "+" in for you

One contact name for several numbers

Hi
A while ago, I bought a Trinity... It works fine but there's something that really drives me crazy... I saved the contact from my old cell to the SIM card and then copied them on my Trinity.. But now all the contacts' numbers appear with an 'own' name in my phonebook (name/M or name/H etc). Is it possible to reconcile them, so there's only one entry with all the numbers of the respective person?
Hope you can help me!
You're either going to have to do it the hard wayon your Trinity or sync to Outlook on your PC and do the editing there. Personally i'd go for the latter, but then mine came from Outlook in the first pplace and so were already in the one person - multiple number structure. They'd come from a Sony Ericsson before and that also did the same set up. Don't remember the last time i actually stored numbers on the SIM.
Is it possible to somehow send the contacts from one hand set to the other directly?
Theoretically, it is possible to send the contacts but my old sony-ericsson can't establish a connection with my trinity. However, I can send files to my Sony-Ericsson (I think there is a problem with my irda since I can't set the beam option to "always receive incoming beams" and there's nowhere an option to send something via infrared...) I've recently updated my device to WM6.1 with a ROM from this forum (with manilla)..
Theaoretically, it is possible to send the contacts but my old sony-ericsson can't establish a connection with my trinity. However, I can send files to my Sony-Ericsson (I think there is a problem with my irda since I can't set the beam option to "always receive incoming beams" and there's nowhere an option to send something via infrared...) I've recently updated my device to WM6.1 with a ROM from this forum (with manilla)..
But shouldn't there be a built-in way to reconcile the contacts? Because WM exports contacts to the SIM in the same format (name/H;O;M;etc)
I don't have Outlook (since it isn't included in the home and student suite of Microsoft Office) and I'm definitely not gonna pay like 300 bucks for software I don't really need. I mean, why can't they make it Sync with Windows Life Mail (the program) as well?? Stupid MS^^

Software, WIFI etc =)

Hey I have some questions so I thought I might collect them all in the same thread =)
1) Any SMS replacement/software that will make the SMS-threading a bit more similar to iPhone? When I saw my mates iPhone I was very enticed by the look and feel of the threaded bubbles approach.
2) Some better guide to WIFI? And some better WIFI manager application. I need/want my phone to roam between different WIFIs with different settings. My work WIFI gives a proxy, my homewifi dont, most cafe WIFI doesnt use proxy either. I also want to make sure that my GRPS/3g is never accessed without explicit approval. Whenever I try to go to start -> settings -> connections I only find setups for modems(GRPS) etc. Never any good way to specify wireless, profiles and so forth.
3) Improve GPS. Right now (when I have internett at all on it) the position is off by ~50-100 meters.
4) Reverse GPS. I would like my phone to transfer GPS-information to a server (eg. via webservice or similar) so I can track my phone if it's stolen/lost. Not even sure this is possible but I would think it is.
5) Exporting numbers from a Nokia N95 -> Touch HD. I have synched all my numbers with my provider but it turns out they don't support HTC yet for synchronization (burn!!!!) and my simcard only supports 400numbers, not to mention I only found ways to copy 1 and 1 contact to simcard. I need a way to move larger amount of numbers (up towards a thousand) easily from an N95 to a Touch HD.
Best regards
CaptainAwesome said:
4) Reverse GPS. I would like my phone to transfer GPS-information to a server (eg. via webservice or similar) so I can track my phone if it's stolen/lost. Not even sure this is possible but I would think it is.
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I remember there was a software for a glofiish phone, that sent GPS position as sms to number specified if pin/security key(or smth like that) is entered incorrectly. I'm also searching for smth like this for HD.
Hi!
there are a few threads here on anti-theft software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1543674#post1543674
W.I.M.P. is one of them.
this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=404025&highlight=anti-theft+software discusses Ultimate Theft Alert v3, W.I.M.P. and Sprite Terminator
Hope this helps.
Ofiaich
Ofiaich
CaptainAwesome said:
Hey I have some questions so I thought I might collect them all in the same thread =)
1) Any SMS replacement/software that will make the SMS-threading a bit more similar to iPhone? When I saw my mates iPhone I was very enticed by the look and feel of the threaded bubbles approach.
2) Some better guide to WIFI? And some better WIFI manager application. I need/want my phone to roam between different WIFIs with different settings. My work WIFI gives a proxy, my homewifi dont, most cafe WIFI doesnt use proxy either. I also want to make sure that my GRPS/3g is never accessed without explicit approval. Whenever I try to go to start -> settings -> connections I only find setups for modems(GRPS) etc. Never any good way to specify wireless, profiles and so forth.
3) Improve GPS. Right now (when I have internett at all on it) the position is off by ~50-100 meters.
4) Reverse GPS. I would like my phone to transfer GPS-information to a server (eg. via webservice or similar) so I can track my phone if it's stolen/lost. Not even sure this is possible but I would think it is.
5) Exporting numbers from a Nokia N95 -> Touch HD. I have synched all my numbers with my provider but it turns out they don't support HTC yet for synchronization (burn!!!!) and my simcard only supports 400numbers, not to mention I only found ways to copy 1 and 1 contact to simcard. I need a way to move larger amount of numbers (up towards a thousand) easily from an N95 to a Touch HD.
Best regards
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for the number 5:
the better way is to use MSOutlook, you syncronize it with nokia pc suite, then with active sync you syncronize your HD and voilà.
pitt1983 said:
for the number 5:
the better way is to use MSOutlook, you syncronize it with nokia pc suite, then with active sync you syncronize your HD and voilà.
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Ah yea I could try that =) Is there anyway to prevent activesync at spesific locations from synching numbers into outlook though? I have large amount of private numbers I do not want synched into my outlook at work, nor do I want worknumbers to be synched into phone automaticly since I really don't want to end up accidentaly calling or texting people from work (even worse my bosses) drunk at 5 in the morning =)
I also tried mJustice now and got it to work half. +m to popup messagebox worked, locationcall.exe I have no idea what does, +g for gps did not work. Might be because Im sending text from same phone as Ive installed it?!
Best regards
CaptainAwesome said:
Hey I have some questions so I thought I might collect them all in the same thread =)
1) Any SMS replacement/software that will make the SMS-threading a bit more similar to iPhone? When I saw my mates iPhone I was very enticed by the look and feel of the threaded bubbles approach.
2) Some better guide to WIFI? And some better WIFI manager application. I need/want my phone to roam between different WIFIs with different settings. My work WIFI gives a proxy, my homewifi dont, most cafe WIFI doesnt use proxy either. I also want to make sure that my GRPS/3g is never accessed without explicit approval. Whenever I try to go to start -> settings -> connections I only find setups for modems(GRPS) etc. Never any good way to specify wireless, profiles and so forth.
3) Improve GPS. Right now (when I have internett at all on it) the position is off by ~50-100 meters.
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Still baffeled on those three =) I have been unable to find any good replacements/applications for this =)
Regards
Cptawesome
As an sms replace i use VITO SMS-CHAT which works great with our device! finger friendly with nice scroll animation
check it out at
http://iwindowsmobile.com/threaded-sms-messaging.html
CaptainAwesome said:
5) Exporting numbers from a Nokia N95 -> Touch HD. I have synched all my numbers with my provider but it turns out they don't support HTC yet for synchronization (burn!!!!) and my simcard only supports 400numbers, not to mention I only found ways to copy 1 and 1 contact to simcard. I need a way to move larger amount of numbers (up towards a thousand) easily from an N95 to a Touch HD.
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If you haven't found a solution yet, this is what I did when I moved from N95 to HD:
- In Outlook, go to contacts and create a new contacts folder. Move the contacts from the "main folder" to the new one. Your main contacts folder should be empty.
- Sync the N95 with Outlook. PC Suite allows you to choose the outlook folder you want to sync to, but ActiveSync doesn't . This is why you need to go through the first step.
- Sync the HD with Outlook. (see note below)
- IN outlook, delete the contacts from the main folder.
- Move the contacts back from the folder you created in the first step to the main folder.
- If you're done, to make sure that the contacts are not sync'ed again, disable contact sync in ActiveSync.
NOTE: the first time I sync'ed the HD with outlook, instead of copying all the contacts from outlook to the HD, it deleted all the contacts from outlook! It seemed that the sync process "believed" that the version on the phone was newer than Outlook's. To prevent this:
- When the n95 contacts are copied to outlook, create a new folder to back them up. If the main contact folder is emptied, then copy the contents from the "backup" folder back to the main folder.

2 outstanding tweaks i cant get on my hd2 (contacts/email pics)

Hi,
i love my hd2 and have worked thought the camera and generic tweaks here. So glad to be away from my omnia and back with a htc and the knowledge here.
I have 2 remaining outstanding tweaks that i havent been able to find decent solutions to by searching here. The first is setting the emails to always show web pictures, i find it frustrating to have to select web pictures eachtime i view an email and as i am on an unlimited data tarriff i dont mind the data. How do i get this to work?
The second is sorting all my contacts by first name then second name. I am not sure if using googlemail as my exchange server, the HTC software or the microsoft sync is changing this but i am pretty tired of going through every day sorting my contacts correctly. Is there a setting somewhere once and for all to force contacts first name and then second name?
As an aside i never sync my phone via usb as i dont use outlook/windows and linux is happy enough pulling everything from googlemail.
Thanks;
Andy
I'll only answer for what I Know.
QUOTE: I am pretty tired of going through every day sorting my contacts correctly. Is there a setting somewhere once and for all to force contacts first name and then second name?
ANSWER: You will enjoy this tiny freeware software that does just that: almost instantly order your contacts by first name (or middle name or last name). Look here for Contact Changer. You run it once and 1 second after, all your contacts are sorted. The downside is that it doesn't change standard setting of the program, which means that the default order will still be LAST NAME first. But since the application is free and quick...
It sounds like your sync source is taking precedence over the phone. If you edit something on the phone and it gets replaced by the backup then that's wrong.
You need to check your server, not the phone.
I have the exact same problem. I don't use data connection (too expensive). There MUST be a way to sort contacts by there first name.... please
Helle
Hi HelleM,
If you go to the contact you want to change, select edit contact. scroll down to the bottom and select more and you can change it with the file as field.
If you can't download the program then you will have to do this with all of your contacts.
Or you could go to marketplace and download Contact Changer by Øystein Kalvø Stephansen. This app allows you to change the sorting in all the contacts. It's very cheap also.
I got it and it works fine. Don't get why HTC did not put that as a choise?
HelleM said:
I got it and it works fine. Don't get why HTC did not put that as a choise?
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Aaahhh so many basic things that HTC should heve put as a choise...
So has anyone worked out how i can get outlook email to auto download the pictures for me in emails? It seems a pointless click each time i open an email!
d'oh wrong thread
yeah the email pics issue drives me nuts. it should be a choice in settings somewhere not ask every time. never seen a solution anywhere either. surprising for something that everybody seems to hate and its such a simple little thing, you wold think it'd of been fixed long ago right?

[unresolved] Mass link contacts to facebook

Is there some sort of application that allows me to link contacts to facebook pages from my computer, and then somehow mass updates the contacts on the phone? The link to facebook is just some XML in the contact notes, so in principle this should be possible.
The same question has been asked here yesterday - i can't post the link as there is a restriction from doing so *rubbish* but it's topic id is 636175 and isn't too far down the forum...
Anyways, it apparently works with myphone, but I don't seem the XML that everyone else does for some reason and so my facebook links don't save
wingm4n said:
Is there some sort of application that allows me to link contacts to facebook pages from my computer, and then somehow mass updates the contacts on the phone? The link to facebook is just some XML in the contact notes, so in principle this should be possible.
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when you sync back your contacts after a flash/hard reset, the data to link them to their facebook equivalents should already be there. However, the links won't start to work until you have reassigned your 'me' contact card to your facebook account. When you do that, you should find the facebook links are restored. (not the facenbook app)
i'm afraid that's not what i'm looking for, myphone backs up my contact facebook associations just fine, i'm just looking for a simpler way to create those associations in the first place, preferably through the computer
Sorry if I misunderstand you, but doesn't the people/facebook app pop up and say 'click here to associate your contacts' and most of them are already pre-checked?
Note I'm NOT talking about the one on an individual person's page, but the one on the 'all people' list.
In the two seconds that process takes, 80% of my contacts were covered. The other 20% being people who I have as 'Jon XYZ' but they are 'Jonathan XYZ' on FB (or vice-versa.)
Or are you one of those people who doesn't do first name/last name and is looking for a way to get around that?
that's exactly what i need! it didn't do that with me, is there a way launch that synchronization manually?
I'm... not sure. I'm sure there is but I don't know how.
Just to make sure you're not missing anything obvious:
Go to the People tab
Click All People at the bottom
You're now at the "All" tab within a new screen -- you should see your fb contact as "Me" listed as the second contact -- do you see this 'link your facebook contacts' around here? (If it exists on this screen, it'll be one of the top three contacts.)
If not, use the slider on that same screen to scroll over to 'Updates and Events'. You'll see yourself at the very top here, and I'm almost positive that it was on this screen where it had 'link your contacts.' It wasn't in a menu or anything, it was very prominently displayed as one of the top items.
When/if you can find that screen, it's basically a dumb match that looks for Contacts(First Name,Last Name) = Facebook(First Name,Last Name). I'm not sure if it pairs on email address, but AFAIK it needs the full name to be exactly the same.
HTH.
**This all assumes you entered your facebook credentials when setting up your phone (or from the data sync menu under the settings tab afterwards) - completely separate from any fb app you may have on your phone. I'm pretty sure you have done this since you mentioned the XML in the contacts but just to be absolutely positive.
I've been looking at this problem since you first posted, and the main problem I see is that I can't see a way to un associate the me contact from face book (in order to re associate so that the contact association screen comes up)
dashed annoying!
i see what you mean, i'm going to look for a way to do that
Have you tried Fonebook!
http://www.developingtrends.co.uk/Software/Facebook/Fonebook/Default.aspx
I can do all the sync with facebook and Outlook. Give a look at this!
samsamuel said:
I've been looking at this problem since you first posted, and the main problem I see is that I can't see a way to un associate the me contact from face book (in order to re associate so that the contact association screen comes up)
dashed annoying!
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I think you could momentarily switch off the Facebook connection altogether do accomplish that. It's under "Data services" (on the settings tab).
Robrecht said:
I think you could momentarily switch off the Facebook connection altogether do accomplish that. It's under "Data services" (on the settings tab).
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Yea, thanks, that got it, however when i logged back in (through 'me' contact card) it doesnt ask about associations as when you do it the first time. Oh well.
i just found an option do associate the contacts for you! if u scroll to the contacts tab in HTC sense then scroll to updates and events (its the picture of the person with a clock next to their head) i had a button at the tob which said 'Associate contacts: XX new associations found (xx being the number of new associations)' tap this and select the contacts you want to update (by default it selects all) then tap ok. it will create the associations for any contacts that arnt associated. it will also set the default contact picture to the facebook profile. it will make your contacts lag a bit while it downloads the info but after that it runs fine
if it helps im running 1.66 official hd2 rom from HTC, with radio 2.08
mazzarin said:
Or are you one of those people who doesn't do first name/last name and is looking for a way to get around that?
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Sorry to reopen this thread, but I'm one of those people! I would also be interested in finding a way to add/backup my fb associations on the PC as MyPhone does not seem to sync them for me I get the fb id's in the <sn> field but not in the <facebook> ones =/

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