Hi, sorry for my bad english.
I have found a tool caled Hermes Tweaker which allows me to enable and disable GPS in my HTC TyTN. It means that my PDA has builtin GPS receiver? Can I use navigation software without external GPS receiver? How to configure it, which COM ports are valid?
The functions are build into Windows Mobile. They are disabled by default, because the Hermes has no buildin GPS receiver.
Hermes Tweaker just enables the disabled functions, though they won't work.
I've turned on this setting myself and have the GPS icon now in settings, connections...
The second poster seems to be saying that this will never work? (im guessing he meant it wont work without a gps unit as the hardware is physically missing in the hermes itself)
I have a bluetooth GPS working fine on COM9 of my hermes.. i'd like to use the inbuilt GPS application to share the GPS to many apps.. I set up the app to use COM3 as its GPS port and COM9 as the port talking to the hardware.. but it doesn't work.
I cant see why it will make any difference if the reciever is internal or not as long as the right COM ports are set.. but it isn't working.. has anyone got this working themselves on a hermes?
Cheers,
sam
no because the neccsary drivers required arent installed either so it wont work, which is the reason why its hidden
someone said that if you try to connect an application BEFORE of tomtom, it recognize the gps...
turn GPS on
launch gpsTuner (and see if it recognize the gps on com 9)
if yes, tomtom should work on same port.
not tested, but if you have tried another application different from tomtom, my words are not useful..
Related
Guys,
Just got this GPS to go with my Xda Exec, it seems to work fine and is a lovely little unit, but only functions correctly when using with SirfIII compatible software? Any software that doesn't have Sirf support doesn't seem able to switch the GPS into its NMEA mode?!
Any PocketPC apps I download to use with it just hang as soon as I open the port to the GPS UNLESS they support Sirf.
Am I missing something here?
Get hold of the TT vs3 GPS driver, and use that to switch the GPS over to the NMEA mode
Ahhh thanks for reply, sounds good but where do I find that? Is that the GPS.cab file that comes with the install? If so thats already on there!?
I've tried Google but can't find any trace of anything similar?
Try pocketgps.co.uk go to the downloads section and it is on that page its vs2,06 that you need - Mike
Many thanks, just installed it and I now have a new application in my Programs.
Upon firing it up, I can select from a list of GPS devices and the port it uses. My Leadtek isn't listed BUT there are listings for Sirf AND for NMEA at different speeds.
To get my GPS working with these applications that support NMEA only which of the NMEA speeds should I select?
Does this new program act as a 'gateway' to the GPS, or some sort of soft configuration for the GPS driver? Should I uninstall the Tom Tom GPS Bluetooth software?
For anyone else, here's a direct link:
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=13
I am trying to set up tomtom 5.21 with my BTGPS74 receiver but cant get the two to communicate. I know there is some settings you can change in settings/system/gps but the problem I have is I dont have the gps option in settings anywhere. Am I missing something? Does any on know what I should do. Tomtom wants me to use port 3 or 7 but when I try to set them in bluetooth settings it says its not possible check your settings. Any suggestions would b welcome. Thanks.
P.S I know the receiver works as it still works well with my N70.
...you should've gotten a GPS icon if software GPS recognized.
In rgister you can force simulation.
hklm\controlpanel\gps]
delete redirect and add 'group' with dword=2
Then GPS icon will appear.
I gave it programport 7,hardware 6, baudrate=57600
gps auto checked
I'm not sure about the settings...
I had to create incomming and outgoing com ports on my 3100 (not sure if you need both)??
TomTom used com port 9 and works like a dream
as soon as you start the programme it connects automatically as long as my receiver is on.
It even connects when the BT on the 3100 is turned off - it starts the BT automaticlally when tomtom runs!
Yeah i agree all you need to do is set up the com ports, then fire up tomtom and select the com port you just set up and away it goes
Chris
Thanks for the replies guys. I know I have to set the com ports but the problem I have is there is nowhere for me to do this. For some reason the gps settings is missing from the system/settings. I am going to try to reinstall tomtom to see if it helps. Tomtom has ports 3 and 7 showing but they seem to be taken by something else so I cant configure my receiver on either of them.
I have a slightly different problem... my TyTn can connect to the BT GPS reciever, but as soon as TomTom tries to calculate a route, or I click the GPS signal icon it crashes back to the Today screen...
I've got TomTom installed with 5.21 update, anyone had any problems like this?
you just need to pair your bluetooth device go to settings connections and bluetooth and add new device, let your tytn search and it will find a new device when you have paired it select new comm port outgoing
I have no gps setting in control panel either
Cheers
Chris
Hi,
i have a strange problem with my BT. I cant create a incoming or outgoing BT port. I dont know why but it wont let me create any ports.
Anyone with the same odd problem?
I had a similar problem, Tytn would only let me choose COM0 (Zero) as outgoing port, and TT works fine with it. However, I would like to add Mapking for Asia, and this navi soft will not accept a GPS on COM0. Anybody understands why Tytn is only offering COM0 as outgoing ports for GPS?
I have set the com4 as outgoing port and now tomtom seems to work fine.
thanks for that info.
I don't know why only port 0 and all other ports are blocked but TT works for me now. I only need to wait for a better ROM and i can leave my Wizard home
I have written to a good contact at HTC since I need COM ports other than 0 for Asian Mapking navi soft (in add. to TT) . Will keep you posted.
Answer from HTC:
"As my testing, the Outgoing port is not limited with COM0. PaPaGo can accept with COM0, COM2, COM4, COM8, and COM9. I think the limitation of COM0 is the software limitation of TOMTOM, So if the user wants to use Mapking that only support COM1~7, he need delete the outgoing port COM0, and reassign another COM port for the BT GPS."
I imagine the problem lies between the Tytn and TomTom only, and other navi soft would find other COM ports. But I am kind of hesitant to interfere with a working TomTom, and go through the outgoing COM port game again...
I'm using Navigon and set up an outgoing Connection on com2 and it works fine for me.
sounds like TT is the problem ...
greetz
sphings
Guys, let me try to help you a little bit, as I work in navigation software development (Destinator).
1. The COM ports has nothing to do with the actual software you are running. This is pre-defined in the ROM you are using. That is also the reason why we see variations here - we use different ROMs.
2. In order of enabling a COM port, you do NOT need to discover the GPS icon on the settings. It is quite useless unless you wish to work simultaniusly with more than one software.
3. To enable a COM port, after you pair the GPS, look down for the tab COM Ports in the BT settings Manager. You only need to create Outgoing COM.
4. Strange but usually you will only be able to choose between 2 COM ports. The rest are hidden by the OS. MAKE SURE that you disabled the "Secure Connections". Default key for all the GPS receivers is "0000" and for Globalsat 308 is "2003". The last is AKA HP GPS.
5. If you cannot enable any other COM port than COM0, this is a ROM problem and you should contact your ROM provider like the mobile carrier. You can also try to enable other COM ports with the attached CAB file. Simply run it, it will expose all COM ports for you and now you should start trying. I reccomend to test COMs 4-8 first, normally, it will solve your problems. (Note: I got this file previously here and did not create it myself).
There have been may posts about TomTom not recognising B GPS's.
One solution that doesnlt seem to be mentioned here id to ensure that the name of the GPs in BT connections actually ends in "GPS"..
If it doesn;t renove the pairing and re-pari , but change the name this time to something that ends in "GPS"...
good luck
Charlie Grillo
Thanks guys, found another solution that works for me now:
1) Set your Bluetooth GPS to another COM port than 0 (TomTom´s standard port 6 was not available, so I choose 2)
2) open Programs/Navigator/navigator.cfg with a text editor, change COM0 to COM2
3) start TomTom - working on COM 2!
Started Mapking, found COM 2 - working now.
hello fellas,
as you can see im new here. im thinking of buying the TYTN, a sector which i have never explored before (pda sector).
it sounds great with the applications and due to my work, a need for a pda is becoming bigger.
i posted in this message due to the GPS topic.
i got a very stupid question which you may recieve occasionally if i buy the tytn.. :twisted:
why do a person need BT enabled GPS? i read you can connect it to your PDA but for what reason?
thanks in advance and apologies for any inconvience..
@D_G - welcome to this board
In order to run navigation software on your Tytn you need a external GPS connected to it. Easiest solution is a external GPS connected via Bluetooth.
Another solution would be to buy a PDA phone with a GPS receiver on board, for example the ETen G500.
Of course we would all be interested in a UMTS PDA with integrated GPS, with acceptable battery life, but that will take some time...
thanks lucas for the answer. but why would you need a navigation software if you have a GPS device? in either case you will need to have both devices in a particula blue tooth range. right?
this means you will need your handheld device + the GPS to activate the navigation software, or dd I miss something?!
I've just installed tomtom 6 on my pda and also got it all paired up with by bluetooth gps. Also opened com0 as an outgoing port. I can see in the gps status screen the little yellow and blue circle going round, but i cant seem to pick up any sattelites, have kept in the same position for over 40mins. I used the same gps unit on my old MDA III pda and it worked perfect.
Is there anything else i need to do?
You could try downloading and trying VisualGPSce or summat to test the output from the GPS BT unit, just in case it's a TT issue.
You might even have some sort of other SW on your PPC confirming the information received from your BT GPS
Have tried the above program but dont get any response from it. Not too sure what the problem could be.
Anyone else with a similar issue?
So you've switched on your bluetooth gps unit and paired the two, and you know that's all working. Except that no gps unit can see it?
I've paired up my Vario II with the GPS unit. Opened and outgoing Com port (i've tried com0 and com4). Now i start tomtom through preeference etc i select the correct com port. Now the yellow/black icon starts to move, but even after an hour of standing in one place in the open air i dont get any gps response.
And i used the same gps unit on TT5.
Connecting a non-tomtom gps to tomtom 6
1. You need to pair your bluetooth GPS to your TYTn
2. you need to connect it to a com-port (take a high port like 9)
3. start tomtom and set a non-tomtom bluetooth gps at com 9
thats it.
hmmm, i've tried the above too on com9 but no change. The gps device does work as it worked with TT5.
ump001 said:
hmmm, i've tried the above too on com9 but no change. The gps device does work as it worked with TT5.
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My be the GPS device is faulty... test with another app, test with windows mobile live search maps, is freeware http://wls.live.com/
My COM Settings
As a novice, I went through a lot of trial and error before getting my GPS to work.
My COM Ports settings now work fine:
BT GPS (COM9)
Incoming Port (COM2)
Have you set an incoming as well as an outgoing port? Maybe a silly question.
beam
try turning off beam receive all incoming beams this makes it work on xda1 this might help
Time has come said:
As a novice, I went through a lot of trial and error before getting my GPS to work.
My COM Ports settings now work fine:
BT GPS (COM9)
Incoming Port (COM2)
Have you set an incoming as well as an outgoing port? Maybe a silly question.
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You shouldn't need an incoming port.. only outgoing.. (at least on the 10 or so BT GPS unit's ive tried none have needed it)
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(Also note on the hermes you cant use COM8 reliably as it messes with the USB Modem options as they seem to use COM8 internally so stay clear of that one)
VisualGPSce doesnt seem to work properly on my hermes.. I use free.mytracking.net's client to test gps easily.. just set the right com port and hit start.. ignore the user/pass bit as thats not important.. if you have a good signal you will get a green bar and number of satellites if communications are working and a red bar and 0 satellites if they are not.
Make sure you do not have the "secure connection" box ticked in port settings, otherwise you will not connect.
Tytn has an interesting feature: To pick up a satellite signal with TomTom 6 the radio of the Tytn must be switched ON. If the radio is switched off no signal is beeing received from the bluethooth device.
Thanks
char05 said:
Tytn has an interesting feature: To pick up a satellite signal with TomTom 6 the radio of the Tytn must be switched ON. If the radio is switched off no signal is beeing received from the bluethooth device.
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Configured lots of tomtom and GPS. Paired, outgoing, no secure, etc. I Know how.
Flashed to WM6 and spent all the afternoon till I read this thread.
Almost fool!
Thanks a lot, man!!
HELLLP upgraded to WM6 on my BA and now my i-Blue GPS reciever wont sync up and TOMTOM cant even see it im gonna scream and cry has anyone got any ideas??? PLEASE PLEASE help
My BA works fine with my GPS receiver (make sure you added it, and assign COM port to the incoming port). Then I use TT6 with COM6 and it works just fine.
Some people uses the GPS application in Settings, but I did not.
now that used to be the case however i no longler have the ability on the menu to choose the BT ports on TT6 i have in this order..
BT UART
SERIAL CABLE ON COM 1
COM 9
IR ON COM 3
and thats it theres some missin:S any ideas??
also its just not syncin up like it used to with Wm2003 Grr
Try to assign to your receiver COM 1 or COM 9
Sometimes it is the GPS application that doesn't know how to use the external GPS management program.
Go to Settings -> Connections -> External GPS, set the two ports to "none" and uncheck the option to manage the ports automatically. Reset the device and try to choose the same port you have chosen at pairing.
I have just finished GPS tutorial for you to know
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardSettings_GPS
Let us know if it helps
kerio said:
I have just finished GPS tutorial for you to know
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardSettings_GPS
Let us know if it helps
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Wow! it works great man!! thanks kerio (and gang)!!
This is kind of bit off-topic, but since you're talking about bluetooth GPS on a Blue Angel I wanted to ask: how well does it work? As I have do not have any sense of direction at all, I've been thinking about buying a Bluetooth GPS receiver, but can a $35 GPS really be accurate and work well? Will any BT GPS receiver work? What kind of software do you use on the PDA? Thank you!
hi, set the gps hardware port (com6) in the external gps settings. set the new outgoing port in the blutooth settings (com6) and in the TT6 set the com6 in other nmea gps. it works.
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This is kind of bit off-topic, but since you're talking about bluetooth GPS on a Blue Angel I wanted to ask: how well does it work? As I have do not have any sense of direction at all, I've been thinking about buying a Bluetooth GPS receiver, but can a $35 GPS really be accurate and work well? Will any BT GPS receiver work? What kind of software do you use on the PDA? Thank you!
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i have a rikalin bluetooth gps and it's working great.
Tomtom 6 and route 66 both working without any problem.
regards stef
First of all, thank you Bepe for a wonderful achievement.
I've upgraded yesterday, everything is much smoother and faster than before but i have one problem: GPS receiver is malfuntioning. Seems My Mio GPS software hangs each time it detects the GPS antenna while it didn't before.
Has the new ROM upgraded the radio as well? is fo is is possible to go back to old radio? Will it erase everyhting on my Touch ?
Thank you
Not sure it's due to bepe's rom, cause I'm having exactly the same problem with the original rom... the app freeze everytime the antenna is detected. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong but I'm stuck at this for days now :-(
If you uncheck in the settings for external gps the box to let the device automatically manage the gps, then it's not freezing anymore... but Igo doesn't detect the gps antenna neither so...
I tried different com port, diferent bauds... with tomtom port 4 bauds 4800 worked perfectly... but with Igo ??
Anyone have had this problem?
After unchecking the settings for external gps the box to let the device automatically manage the gps, i get " GPS could not be found" error.
anyone knows how to fix that ?
I have the same problem with Igo and the original french HTC rom
with MioMap3.2 I manually set the GPS port (in MioMap) to use COM 4 and it works for me. On the Start Menu->Settings->System->External GPS, my GPS Program Port is set to COM4 and Hardware port is set to None. I let Windows Manage GPS automatically.
GPS receiver driver ?
Are there any drivers for the GPS receiver or has the radio version something to do about the fact the GPS won't work properly with Bepe's .67 opera version ?