How difficult is it to use the phone with one hand?
On a Milestone, I always press the search button by accident, so I'm a little concerned.
And how do you guys cope with the fact that there's no notification led? I've tried using noled on Milestone (just to test it out) and I hated it.
I haven't found the lack of an LED to be that irritating. It vibrates every so often if you haven't checked for a notification anyway.
I haven't had any issues with using it one handed either. The buttons seem to stop you pressing them if you're interacting with the screen -- say typing for example.
one hand use if fine for me.
never had a phone with led notification on it so it doesnt bother me.
would be nice though .. one feature i miss from nexus one is the led flashing differnt colors for missed calls, messages , facebook, etc. etc.
I have an omnia HD
as you know there is no notification led at all and its just fine..
besides you have no idea how that tiny little led is power consuming... you may think its not and its a led but the power consumption goes up a few % killing your battery a little faster...
anyway only today I'll recieve the sgs2 so just then I will report about 1 hand..
topkop said:
How difficult is it to use the phone with one hand?
On a Milestone, I always press the search button by accident, so I'm a little concerned.
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You are lucky! there is no search button on this one
topkop said:
And how do you guys cope with the fact that there's no notification led? I've tried using noled on Milestone (just to test it out) and I hated it.
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I had no problems with the fact that there is no led. Why? Simple: whenever I LOOK at the phone I always PICK IT UP and unlock it. Just one button press. There is usually a bunch of unread gmails, yahoo mails, company emails, SMSs, texts, and push notifications from facebook, twitter, etc; plus a bunch of missed calls and voice mails that I do not care about. There is just SO MUCH TO CHECK that I can't imagine any simple light that would tell me anything I need to know and would eliminate the need to actually unlock the phone and look at the screen. A light worked well IMHO with dumb phones where the only events the phone could react to were a missed call , a VM and a SMS.
I miss having an led.
There is an app called noled on the market which is a decent replacement though.
1-handed operation is fine. Only 3 buttons and no search button!
Thanks, guys!
I do know there's no search button. I was just afraid I'm going to press the rightmost one (in this case the back button, of course) when I'm reaching for left top corner with one hand. Anyway, hopefully it will be fine.
I really wish it had notification LED. I'm a music major, so when I practice, I put my phone on the piano, and very often I cannot hear the alert or feel the vibration. So, notification LED is really important to me. I can only hope that BLN works, I guess.
Seriously; what's the care about this LED?
BLN is coming soon if it's hasn't come already - having the capacitive buttons light when there is a notification is terrific.
I miss the LED too -- I'm now using NoLED. Works well. Only issue is that it seems to buypass Widgetlocker.
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
If this so incenses you, send it back.
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LG didn't deliver an LED on the V20. Nuke it from orbit.
I use no led app in the play Store. It blinks on the main screen... How this helps...
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1) Get some glasses cause if you can't see the second screen from a foot away you have some issues.
I have my phone on my desk and I can see every single notification and time that is displayed. easily.
I agree an LED should have been included but that's cause I'm used to it, but it's not a must have really. There are WAY more phones out there without LED notification than with (ie: iPhone)
2) Every app has it's own notification options. If something isn't working how it should, then go into their notification and adjust it. I use Vibrate at work and have no issues getting my text notification, email notification or really notification from any app that matters(ones I've taken the time to set up). Personally I hate an audible notification for email, but Gmail doesn't allow me to turn just the sound off, so I downloaded (using the app mentioned below) a notification sound called "silent" that is just 1 second of nothing so that I can have my email just vibrate.
3) If you hate the notification/ringtones then change them. Simple as that. A great easy app is Zedge - you can download what you want and set it how you want.
I am far sighted and need glasses to read text anywhere up to two feet out or so...... and I can tell from the second screen if I have a text or email waiting for me with it a foot away..... without my reading glasses on.
As stated, you need to look at your settings for the phone and app. I get vibrations for texts and emails. That's the only communications I do anymore.
And I haven't had a notification LED since my Note 3. I figured manufacturers were drifting away from them in favor of other notification systems. To tell you the truth, I don't miss having a light blinding me in the middle of the night or flashing in bars. I much more prefer the smoother new systems in place.
well wearing my gear fit2 that i got for free, notification led is useless for me haha... so ive been very happy with v20 soo far..
they should build a led into the fps =D
I agree, no notification light is a super bummer. If we could just get an update to blink the screen maybe. Its not the brightness, its the viewing angle is poor. The brightness in screen off mode is terrible if you're coming from the N7 AOD.
If this phone upsets you this much, why are you still using it?
Why not exchange for something that suit your needs better?
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Exactly! Just in case you guys didn't notice..... this IS NOT a Samsung. We get it. It doesn't have a notification light. We don't need to hear about it in every thread. Get over it or get rid of the device. It's not going to magically grow one.
I don't have the V20 yet, but maybe someone can write an app and use the entire strip as a LED notification substitute.
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HikariNoKitsune said:
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
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Really??? Because maybe you would have checked this out before hand... Or possibly looked into it's predecessor the V10... There is this really cool stuff you can do, those of us with common sense call it research... It's a nice thing to fall back on before dropping $700 USD on a phone. Or you could take it back and get an led... Either way I implore you to quit crying, and leave this thread open for real issues like my V20 picking out mismatched socks this morning.
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ZDeuce2 said:
Really??? Because maybe you would have checked this out before hand... Or possibly looked into it's predecessor the V10... There is this really cool stuff you can do, those of us with common sense call it research... It's a nice thing to fall back on before dropping $700 USD on a phone. Or you could take it back and get an led... Either way I implore you to quit crying, and leave this thread open for real issues like my V20 picking out mismatched socks this morning.
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Sup Zac!
We all knew before we bought this phone that it didn't and wouldn't have a led so why complain about it just move on.
HikariNoKitsune said:
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
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I don't understand why you are ranting about it not having a notification LED. It was never advertised to have one. If it really irks you so much please take it back and spare us all the long rant. You should have done your research before buying this phone. In fact, if the LED was so important for you why didn't you check if it had one in the shop before brining it home? I don't think you should keep a phone you're not satisfied with. Just please return it.
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HikariNoKitsune said:
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
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Try Tasker App...it might be a helpful solution to your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/2nd-screen-flash-text-message-tasker-t3490220
I have it installed and I think it is better...
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I just want you to know I thanked your post because you actually took the time to type all that up and then you posted it.
It was either do or die sir and you died spectacularly. It was a rant worthy of a proper send-off.
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Well, I understand where the op is coming from. When my internet at home dies, I turn into the hulk and want to smash things lol. Technology has that effect on us haha.
I used to take time setting the colors of my led notifications to know which app has a notification. I got the v20 knowing it didn't have one but didn't think it was that important. I figured i used my phone a lot that I'll be picking it up anyways even without a blinking light.
Turns out, I got used to the 2nd screen and don't miss the led notifications one bit. To the original poster, try the few suggestions here or just start picking up your phone periodically to look at the 2nd screen. If none of that works for you, then maybe you do need to return the phone.
But I think if you give it time, your habits will adapt to the phone eventually. ?
RiNo808 said:
I use no led app in the play Store. It blinks on the main screen... How this helps...
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Damn. How did I not know about this? But then you don't know about things until you need them. This is just what I needed.