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Universal - "Lock Device" button?

Looking at an MDA Vario, on the homescreen you can "lock" the device.
I'd like to be able to PIN Lock my device by pressing a key, like I used to my C500 - or a button on the homescreen would be even better. The C500, just pressed the power button and chose "Device Lock" - nice and easy way of securing the phone, preventing anyone from using it.
Whilst I've got the timeout set on my MDA Pro, it doesn't always seem to kick in, and I'd like to be able to lock it manually, but can't find the way...
Can you help?

I agree...
The Qtek 9100 has this nice function as well. Why can't we use it in Universal as well?

set the time to 0 minutes, and then simply switch the device off. This will lock it.

lbendlin said:
set the time to 0 minutes, and then simply switch the device off. This will lock it.
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I think the point is, we want to have the "OFF and LOCK NOW" option to click whenever we feel like it, without the inconvenience of having it lock every single time we turn it off.

I see. Looks like a simple program would do that registers for a wakeup event, sends the unit to sleep and then blocks the device until a PIN is entered. However, that can be circumvented easily by a more sophisticated user...

What if a user of a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) could take the Lock Device.exe they have in their ROM's and give it to us???
Wouldn't that solve the problem? :?:

well, let's try !

Anyone??? All we need is the Device Lock.exe I believe from a Wizard...

There is no such file in the Wizards ROM. many have been looking for it, because we want to bind it to a hardware button and remove it from the Today screen. However, none of us have been able to find it. Posting it to you is therefore not possible, sorry.

Koksie said:
There is no such file in the Wizards ROM. many have been looking for it, because we want to bind it to a hardware button and remove it from the Today screen. However, none of us have been able to find it. Posting it to you is therefore not possible, sorry.
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I didn't know that my friend... That's unfortunate...
Thank you for your reply though

I don't even want to bind to hardware - just the software would be good for now!

I installed the latest UK TMobile Rom, and the lock device today plugin or something like that suddenly appeared... and works perfectly

Wizard Users more than 3-4 months????

I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:

Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?

i'm using the regular wi5 lock button at the today screen but there are some programs that allows you to choose a hard button and use it as a lock
but im looking for an autolock

Thomas1234 said:
Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?
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Well, since its going into your pocket and you won't need the screen, can't you just hit the power button once to make it go into standby mode. Two benefits, you save battery, and lock the phone (only a press of the power key unlocks it again). In standby, you will still receive phone calls and get email (if its set to poll every XX mnutes, dunno about push email). The only downside to using the power button as a keylock is if you're using the wizard as mp3 player or something becuase standby causes the app to stop.
There's a cab out there that allows you to map the key lock to a button, I forgot what thread its in. I've got keylock mapped to the voice record button (hold). It works well.

Thanks Edyhan, I thought that this Lock is to lock the PPC and give it a password so that nobody can use it without knowing the Password well I am very new with this Pocket PCs, I am still figuring out the beauty.
KINetics, thanks for your reply, I know about the Power button, but it can b pushed - accidently - too then your PPC gonna do some jobs while it is in your Pocket, this is why Locking the buttons is the best solution.
But I really don't need any other apps just to lock the keys, as long as there is a Lock already in the WM5.
I wish the Wizard owners answer the main question of the Thread Starter

Edyhan said:
I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:
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I got the tmo mda the day it was available in the US and I like it a lot more now than when I got it. I can't say my keyboard has come loose but it does seem to close with less than a snap now and then. Still, it seems to work fine, as does the phone, so I'm not concerned.
The custom 2.17 rom available on this site seems to work wonders for battery life. When using the stock tmo rom, battery life was a couple days. With the 2.17 rom, it takes 3 days to hit 50%. Your mileage may vary, of course, but it added a couple extra days for me. I've since gotten a battery that's about twice as large (needs a custom backplate for the phone) and it seems to last forever but I haven't measured the time.
Finally, I agree with the above. I hit the power button before putting it in my pocket and it's never once dialed on it's own. I also discovered the secret of hitting the power button after I call or answer the phone. That prevents random screen frenzy from your face as you talk.
I had a Blue Angel phone before the mda and I really liked that phone a lot. It had a larger screen and was much faster but...the mda had WM5 and the BA was 2003SE. Eventually I learned that there's a different "rhythm" to using the mda and once I found it, I stopped overclocking and now I think it's an awesome phone.

For locking the Wizard I normally use a combination of both lock and standby, ty hat way if the power button does get pressed in pocket (which has happened on a couple of occasion) the screen comes on but the pad is still locked.
I've owned mine since January and have been more than happy with it, sure its bigger than my old Orange C500 but it does way more too! only got around to hard reset it the other day to wipe off the T Mobile due to having so much installed on it, tis faster now tho. Overall a great phone, even my stylis still stays in tho it doesn't extend when u pull it out anymore.

Turning the device off

It may be a newbie question, but I have tried to find it out for a couple of weeks now and failed:
How do I turn the Universal off, apart from taking the battery out? Does Windows Mobile have a menu option that turns the deice off? I can't find the key combination that does it either.
What is the safest way to reset it? If I use the reset button, some recent text messages get lost.
I am using Helmi UNI AKU3.5 ROM. Might it be the rom's fault?

Hi there,
In fact, most PDAs are never "off" because else it wont turn "on" to do the reminders...
That said, few 3rd party tools allows you shutdown your device or restart it.
Like http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
Or GsPocketMagic++

I think VJEschaton can put it into a "deeper" deep sleep. I can't remember if this works on the Universal, it should work on all HTC Xscale devices, but I think it was only tested on the Magician.
The device can be forced into any power state you want. But the OS doesn't support that, so it's OEM specific typically.
V

I had that prob with losing messages..
How you can fix it, is if before you reset you press the power button one (to make it sleep) then press it again (to wake back up) then do the reset.
It will keep that exact state its at then.
I think this is what you mean?

NEED HELP MDA GOING CRAZY(willing to pay)

My MDA IS GOING CRAZY!! Every time I press the power button to take the phone off of the standby mode the phone seems to randomly just open up contacts and then try to delete one of the ones that are first on the list. Also the two soft buttons aren't working. the keyboard, some of the letters aren't working either, and every time i press the left softkey on the keyboard the menu on the right always opens up when I am on the internet. For some reason it just started acting like that when I increased the size of the cache. This one time all the keys worked for like 5 minutes the other day, then they went back to not working. I already did a virus scan and nothing came up, so yea. I am willing to pay if needed to the person through paypal, whoever helps me fix up my mda. NEED HELP!!!!

Have you tried updating to a newer firmware?

Are there any magnets in the immediate vicinity of the MDA?
I know it sounds crazy but even the magnet on the included t-mobile case can do things like switch the screen to landscape or bring up the calender.
It's just a thought and a possibility.

nope no magnets, and the rom is the 2.6 one, the newest rom, dunno what wrong with the phone, im willing to pay to fix it up. whoever helps me fix it up, i will pay them.

if i were you, (thankfully i'm not because i have had enough problems with my XDA!! lol) i'd do a hard reset, but i'll assume you can't do that because of the mind of its own issue, so power down the phone, and leave it on charge so there's atleast 50% battery in the phone. meanwhile, goto the t-mobile website and get the latest rom (or re downlownload the rom that's already installed...2.6 i think u said?) and try to upgrade using bootloader. todo this, hold the camera and the power buttons until a funny screen comes up, run the update utility, and then plug in the phone to the firewire cable (then onto the usb) on the first screen of the program (if that makes sense). then run the update utility and that should work.
there's no reason why it shouldn't. i had a similar problem with a se w800i about a year ago, and it turned out a button was stuck down, so check that.
i hope you get it sorted, as i kno how frustrating these phones can be.
thepolice

thizzmaster said:
My MDA IS GOING CRAZY!! Every time I press the power button to take the phone off of the standby mode the phone seems to randomly just open up contacts and then try to delete one of the ones that are first on the list. Also the two soft buttons aren't working. the keyboard, some of the letters aren't working either, and every time i press the left softkey on the keyboard the menu on the right always opens up when I am on the internet. For some reason it just started acting like that when I increased the size of the cache. This one time all the keys worked for like 5 minutes the other day, then they went back to not working. I already did a virus scan and nothing came up, so yea. I am willing to pay if needed to the person through paypal, whoever helps me fix up my mda. NEED HELP!!!!
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Ok, you need to give more info. What IPL/SPL, Radio, version, etc. etc. What other steps did you follow? Downgrade to 1.08 unlock? CID unlock? Upgrade to 2.26? Then flash whatever ROM you are using...and which ROM is it? What other apps have you loaded? How old is the phone? Who is your service provider? What is your bank account number? (ok maybe we don't need that one haha) What SD card are you using? Have you dropped the phone?
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uuh, i haven't dropped the phone at all. Its unlocked, and I changed the network settings so that I get unlimited internet and other data transfers for free. I have Tmobile prepaid. Other than that I am going to try to hardware reset it, tried it already, it didn't work. So, I will try to update the rom, the phone is unlocked, so if I update the rom hopefully it wont become locked again.

It won't become locked again, it sounds like a hardware problem it is most likely a button or key on the keyboard is getting stuck and/or shorting every so often causing this behaviour.

Have you recently loaded any apps? Maybe changed the key settings? Deleted a file by mistake?
How large did you make the cache? What program did you use to change the cache? Did you change anything else besides the cache?

uuh i made the cache to 4 MB and I did change the settings for the IE but I changed them back, I used Resco Registry Editor, also I went to this website to find the registry tweaks http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/
Then I went to the 2 performace tweaks:
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/speed_up_your_pocketpc
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/increase_performance_speed
I also did this one on the IE using Resco Registry Editor:
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/change_pocket_internet_explorer_6
Other than that I haven't done any other ones, I tried overclocking by using a software called Omap Clock, but that software sucked, it would be overclocked for a while, and it would return back to the default speed whenever I would press the power button to put it on standby.

if i were you..
if you are willing to pay for those who ever fix you phone, i'd rather pay my nearest service center to fix my device.

Soft-reset without having to take the back cover off the phone

Here is a tiny program to soft-reset your phone without having to take the back cover off the phone. You access the program from the programs menu (Start--Programs).
http://www.clickapps.com/moreinfo.htm?pid=19165&section=PPC
@Beards: I added it to the wiki list, but for some reason the table structure of the item following is messed up (the version appears in the comments cell). It was my first time editing the wiki, so let me know if I did something wrong.

Chris Cross said:
Here is a tiny program to soft-reset your phone without having to take the back cover off the phone. You access the program from the programs menu (Start--Programs).
http://www.clickapps.com/moreinfo.htm?pid=19165&section=PPC
@Beards: I added it to the wiki list, but for some reason the table structure of the item following is messed up (the version appears in the comments cell). It was my first time editing the wiki, so let me know if I did something wrong.
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The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450643
has a soft reset app i wrapped. It has no prompts, and just F.D.I

I have to say this does exactly what we need, no fuss, it just works.
Thanks.

Power button will do also
If the unit has not frozen completely, you can long press the power button and get the dialog box asking about losing data and asking Yes or No to continue.
This is actually the first time I have ever seen a built-in option of actually shutting the entire unit completely off! Just like removing the battery!
I tried this method a few times when it looked like the whole thing locked up (experimenting with old/incompatible apps) and it worked like a charm. I have had to remove the back cover only once to use the reset button.
Regards,
Gordo

Yes, this is the method I use and it is very convenient. Even when my screen freeze or the unit seems to hang, holding the button will still allow me to shut down. Hold again to restart.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3034819#post3034819