FAX - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Is it possible to send a Fax with the Tytn? Or with the Laptop to use the Tytn as a Fax-Modem?
Fuzzibär

yes, it is posible.
You would require CSD (DATA CALL) services enabled on your GSM account. Mobile terminated and Mobile originated. Talk to your carrier data support services.
Once enabled, connect your TytN to your laptop over USB or BT in wireless modem mode.
on your desktop computer configure dialup connection using yout TyTN as modem.
om Tytn:
start--> settings --> CSD Line Settings:
choose:
modem mode: V.32
connection element: non-transparent
Soft reset your device for new settings to become effective.

@SecureGSM I tried your procedure on my Universal but the Windows XP computer does not recgonize the Universal modem as a fax modem.
Probably the Universal modem is not fax compatible. I am surprised that the TyTn uses a fax compatible modem. Actually this procedure has worked for me on my Nokia 6600 but never on the Universal. I have got my service provider to enable both Fax and Data service and I can connect to the internet with the CSD connection.
Regards

Cingular no longer supports CSD
According to Cingular Customer Support, Cingular does not offer CSD capability any longer. This service was discontinued in December of 2005.

My operator still offers CSD, and I wonder, is it necessary to do it through a computer? I mean, can't the Hermes send a fax all by itself?

My pre-upgrade 8525 showed as an HTC Modem in Control Panel / Phone and Modem Options / Modems tab before upgrade. Now it doesn't. It's that darn Internet Sharing app, which actually works great and gave 725 kbps here near DC one morning on 3G. Wow. That's fast.
You see, it appears Cingular removed WModem.exe and the help and shortcut files from the upgrade. I tried WModem.exe from my SX66 and it ran but it did not show up as a modem. That's probably because of registry or the hardware port for the modem differs from SX66 (Blue Angel) to 8525 (Hermes).
SO.....
Do any of you pre-upgrade 8525 owners have WModem.exe at minimum from your My Device/Windows directory? Can you share it here? (It's an invisible system file on a Winows PC. Turn on Tools / Folder Options / View / Show system files to see it and transfer it)
If you can do this, I will try a wireless fax on Cingular with the 8525. I did send wireless faxes on Cingular with my SX66, but they each cut off at the same page position, about 1/5 down. Cingular credited months of CSD when I explained that fault.
Yes, wireless faxing is possible. As stated above, your account must be provisioned with CSD from Cingular for $3.99 / month. I have had that since way back in 2005 or 2004 and Cingular confirms they will not market CSD to new accounts or provision CSD to existing accounts; you have to be grandfathered in, and even then support is nearly nonexistent.
I work with a volunteer group and fax PIHI under HIPPA regs to the front desk during meetings. That's my fax use; it's tethered.
P.S. 2007-11-18: Cingular 3rd tier tech support has ironed out most problems with CSD as I continue to learn about wireless faxing. I found a Cingular ROM of early release on the web but it won't load, most likely because the 6.0 Professional ROM has a 2+ bootloader, but we (our Cingular Family) have one upgrade avaialble, so I'll get an 8925, which an HTC rep promised has got the Wmodem app, saying "I've got one here in my hand, and it's there". The BT modem doesn't fax. I am exploring ETSI modem standards and learning my extended AT codes like AT+GMM, etc. I used the Motorola RAZR belonging to my Cingular Family primary account holder to send a complete wireless fax the other day, so I know CSD is working. I'm working to set up intenet connection sharing on my home PC by dialing home but that's not free, like it is with a T-mobile My Faves account. Slow and steady progress like the CSD service itself. A call from Cingular 3rd tier to me is scheduled for [email protected] EST to finalize this service. I"ll ask for a year's credit of CSD because the rep admitted the account was misprovisioned.

Hi,
Could not find this file on my Windows' folder, yet I came accross this thread where you might find an appropriate assistance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301713&page=3&highlight=wmodem

Last from the past
I grandfathered my CSD line and still have it, but now...
I have a Russian Ring Central desk set on Phone Works 2004 on Windows XP Tablet PC edition inside a VMWare virtual machine with 4 Intel i5 cores and 2.9 GB of RAM on a Samsun XE700T1A-H01 Slate to connect with, *and* the AT command set from Option.
What fun.
Pluck low hanging fruit.
Make new friends and keep the old.
Doug
Prerna said:
Hi,
Could not find this file on my Windows' folder, yet I came accross this thread where you might find an appropriate assistance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301713&page=3&highlight=wmodem
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DGoncz said:
I grandfathered my CSD line and still have it, but now...
I have a Russian Ring Central desk set on Phone Works 2004 on Windows XP Tablet PC edition inside a VMWare virtual machine with 4 Intel i5 cores and 2.9 GB of RAM on a Samsun XE700T1A-H01 Slate to connect with, *and* the AT command set from Option.
What fun.
Pluck low hanging fruit.
Make new friends and keep the old.
Doug
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Wow, I posted that 11 years ago! I can't even make it out what it was about, although I remember my beloved TyTn...

Related

HTC TyTN - Replace your blackberry!

I'll admit, I take a lot of good info from these boards and am usually far too busy to post. But this time I feel I have something great to share.
I bought a TyTN the other day...got here Wednesday. I was sick so I didn't start to play much with it until today.
Let me just set the tone here: I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET AROUND MY CORPORATE IT DEPARTMENT FOR YEARS. FIRST I GOT MY SPRINT TREO TO GET BLACKBERRY EMAILS, BUT NOT TRUE PUSH...THEN I GAVE UP FOR A WHILE AND USED A SPRINT 7250...but BB's are A WASTE, LESS FUNCTIONAL, and just a POOR CHOICE for today's mobile professional.
Now I have found today: The HTC TyTN can VERY EASILY be made into a corporate BES-connected Blackberry if you so desire, and conencted to YOUR CURRENT corporate BES account, without their intervention! I have done this with my Sprint 7250 BB account, and done it back and forth all day from T-mo to Cingular (Cingular wins out because of 3G of course...gotta have good slingbox when I can!)
All you need is a 'blackberry enabled SIM card' (really, just add the unlimited BES ENABLED (NOT THE "PERSONAL") blackberry plan to T-mo or Cingular) and a corporate BES account (that you haven't been able to touch for years, LOCKING you to a USELESS paperweight of a dumb-phone!) I know some others were lucky enough to have a Cingular SIM card in their corporate BB already and this wasn't a big deal. But I was not and I see many other are having trouble starting out with with non-Cingular blackberry devices. So check out how I ended up getting my way, finally after 4 years!
0) Insert (or go buy) a personal, non-blackberry-enabled Cingular (3G) SIM card. You should be able to surf for UMTS/HSDPA data and all that...
1) Install BBConnectr_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16 on the HTC TyTN.
2) Install Activesync2.1.1.9 for mobile on the desktop.
3) Connect the HTC to the computer via USB, then open PC's Activesync 2.1.1.9. You will be asked if you want to change your PIN -- say YES! (you can always go back. Remember, it DOES NOT MATTER what service your BB is CURRENTLY through...we are going to make it through Cingular for you here in a second!)
4) Call Cingular and have them add the unlimited $49.95 blackberry plan, assumedly on top of your unlimited data plan. While I was willing to pay $145 a month to have everything in one device, just to spite my corporate IT department, here's the catch: They will come back and say you can't have both! Take the Unlimited blackberry plan (which will allow the PocketPC BB Connect software you installed to get through Cingular's network to "blackberry.net" So Instead of $40 for unlimited data, $10 more is getting my (and i have tested it) 3G data and blackberry.net access!
From there, you should be good like me.
I'm still figuring out the nuances, like how to minimize down-time after web surfing for BB connect to get back 'connected' again. I suspect in an all-3G area (in which i am NOT), this may not be an issue.
I have placed the updated, verified as working (on both T-mo and Cingular) versions of Activesync2.1.1.9 and BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16 in the "upload" directory of the web site. (as well as the 2.1 manual) That is /Hermes/Tools_and_Programs. Hopefully it gets moved over soon.
Keep on rocking everyone -- we are forging new capabilities together that make our lives easier, more fun, and more convenient!
Love and bruises,
Greg
It's your IT group that's at fault btw... I'm the technology guy for our IT group and we're getting rid of the BES and switching to direct push instead. Why? Tell your IT dept this: a BES places a 50% higher IO load on your Exchange server :shock:. This is because it must scan all blackberry enabled mailboxes every second or so looking for changes!
Now that devices like the Q have the MSFP, our execs have a nice alternative to their 8700s.
I've also installed LCS 2K5 with an Access Proxy and we are now all moving to Mobile Communicator for IM. This is a great little program that also gateways to AIM and Yahoo.
I believe IT should empower their users with technology, not be a bunch of Nazis.....
Files (safe) moved here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/BlackBerry_Connect/
Could you please point out what is the difference between your uploads and the file here?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Hermes_Blackberry_Connect_Client.zip
Thanks!
Bb Connect
Just a quick one on this has anyone tried this on a XDA Exec on orange??
BAH ! ! !
Tytn has more functions, but isn't nearly as good of a phone - especially for someone who spends a lot of time driving
mightyeric said:
BAH ! ! !
Tytn has more functions, but isn't nearly as good of a phone - especially for someone who spends a lot of time driving
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Mate .. you need a bluetooth headset on your TyTN!!! :idea: And you should not drive anyways while talking on your phone :wink:
touche'
mightyeric said:
touche'
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Sorry .. couldn't resist myself. :lol:
even though this doesnt belong in this forum i figured you guys would know. do cingular blackberrys (the 8700) work on the new 3g network? and can u install AIM (a version that does not use text messages)?
Just tested TyTN with BIS and BES solutions, all works fine!!!
Messages are coming through UMTS channel where UMTS signal is available!
When you get an email via BES, can you read the attachments though?
does it also wirelessly sync your calendar and contacts with BES?
I seem to have it all working but when I restart the tytn, the blackberry service doesn't connect. The config program says 'no connection' (although it was fine right after I installed) Has anyone else seen this and got round it?
Quick config question on BBConnect...
For all those that have this successfully working on a TyTN - did you have to tweak any connection settings on the PPC ?
I've installed BBConnect (2.1.2.16) onto the PPC and BBDesktop (2.1.1.18) onto the PC. Used Activesync and got all my calendar entries over. Now when I come to have the BBC connect wirelessly, it fails to connect and eventually goes into 'Suspended by User' state.
I played around and defined a connection called 'Blackberry' with all the settings 'blackberry.net, rim, password etc..) and can now actually get it to Connect successfully...
The issue now is that no email flows.... in fact nothing flows at all and I can't send a message as it indicates it's a 'malformed message'.
Any ideas ?
I've had Cingular confirm that my data account is set up for 'BlackBerry Connect Unlimited'...
I never had a blackberry before so I'm into new territory here...
Any advice on how to get this working ?
Cheers
Dave
Does anybody knows which is the correct cingular blackberry plan for USA??????
Since some of you appear to have gotten Blackberry Connect working with Cingular on a mobile device I'm hoping you can give me some useful information. I have the service in place from Cingular, and have the understanding that with Blackberry Connect from Cingular I need no other data plan from them. It will cover all of my other data services. This part seems to be working fine. What's not working is the Blackberry Connect software itself. It always gives me "Blocked - Radio In Use". I am wondering if it is because I have a connection set up for "MY ISP" based on Cingulars default installation. If it's supposed to be using Blackberry Connect for data, should I be deleting the MY ISP configuration? Could that be what's keeping the radio in use? I would assume the only thing using the radio should be the Blackberry Connect service since that's the only plan I have.
Help?
Thanks
I get a message that the program cannot determine the type of network and to ensure the radio is on when I try to run Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC on my unlocked HP hw6945. It installed fine from the hosted exe file.
My theory is that the problem is the program is looking for the phone's frequency/band settings in WM5. The HP hides these as it features an automatic band/frequency transition radio. Does anyone know how to unhide WM5's menu and settings for the phone band/frequency?
BTW I have a new 64k Cingular smartcard sim with Blackberry Connect service (verified working with my Blackberry 7100t unlocked).
Hi all !
Was anybody able to run BlackBerry Connect on Cingular 1.31 ROM ?
It was run without any problems for me on 1.34, but does not work on 1.31.
Anybody else with the same problem ?
Regards,
baudy2
I followed HTC TyTN - Replace your blackberry instructions and software installs fine on Cingular 8525. I received system book from BES, but after the 8525 connects, a few minutes latter the Blackberry goes to "Suspended by user" and email is never received. Does anything else need to be setup, ie a different connection in the network connections on the device?
Thanks
saldous said:
When you get an email via BES, can you read the attachments though?
does it also wirelessly sync your calendar and contacts with BES?
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The Calendar and Contacts works fine!! You need to find the contacts....its the same of BBconnect for Nokia.
But you cant view all the attachments, only excel, word.....
Not read .jpg .mp3 and more.
HP6945 update
I happened to go overseas last week and while there and roaming on O2 I was able to get past the second screen and get the BB Connect to start. However, it would not generate the PIN (status: "pending"). Hoping that once past that obstacle once back on Cingular US I could get further, but no joy.
Right now I'm trying the Xpress Mail product which pushes and syncs calendar and email via a redirector; it seems to be finicky though.

BlackBerry Connect problems with latest HTC ship ROM

Hi folks,
I have just got myself an HTC TyTN and found this forum. I have been reading it for
a couple of days and managed to update the ROM on my phone to the latest HTC WWE version
on the wiki.
Loving the phone so far but I cannot get BlackBerry Connect to work.
I am running BlackBerry Connect 2.1.2.54 and using my UK O2 3G SIM which was previously
working great for BBConnect on my Nokia E61, so I know I am OK from the network side of things.
BBConnect installs OK, gives me a PIN OK, but when it tries to connect I get:
"Network Available" followed by
"Data Tunnel Available" followed by
"Not Connected"
I should mention that I am only using BlackBerry Internet Service, not the full-blown
BlackBerry Enterprise Service, so I have not installed the desktop part of the software,
only the client for the mobile.
I even tried to downgrade the ROM to the 1.35 version last night but the 1.35 updater
refused to let me.
Has *anyone* got BBConnect to work on the latest shipping ROM? Anyone have any details
about upcoming new versions of the BBConnect s/w?
Reg hacks?
I would be very grateful for any advice, will post back results.
Thanks,
Charlie.
PS: Is there any way to turn off the green flashing network status LED? It drives me crazy
PPS: If nothing will get BBConnect to work, anyone know of another solution to get my POP3
Yahoo mail pushed to my phone (I am UK based if that matters)?
I would appreciate some help with this same problem, but on Cingular USA.
New 8525, updated AT&T ROM, Cingular's Blackberry Personal data plan.
I was told by RIM they don't support Cingular and 8525, but I see many
users in this forum do have it working.
Have tried various version of BB Connect on my 8525, but they
all point to a blackberry.net IP address that ends in .189.
Some threads say it needs to be .192 for USA - is that my problem?
Thanks for your help !
I had Blackberry working fine on a T-Mobile Vario II, but last month that went back faulty (the dreaded lock-ups) and was replaced with a new unit.
I was unable to connect to Blackberry, getting the same response as Charlie. After much investigation TM were about to exchange the handset again when I received a call from TM saying that there was a known problem with a certain range of IMEI numbers on new handsets that were not able to connect with Blackberry. After checking we found that the IMEI of this new handset fell within the affected range.
I was told that it was a Blackberry problem, and that TM were expecting RIM to issue an update or patch to cure the problem. I decided then to remove the blackberry from my account and use other methods, so haven't pursued it.
So it seems there is a known problem with some HTC handsets, but as usual there's little being done about it!
bbc does not work with the new rom. to roll back, use the sdcard upgrade method in the wiki under rom updating for beginners.
this will take you back to 1.34..... sux.
wes
Can anyone else confirm that Blackberry Connect requires the original ROM?
As the previous poster said, that would sux.
Has anyone else been able to get the following to work?
1. Cingular US
2. Blackberry Connect Client (ver 2.1, not 4.0?) loaded onto 8525, running WM5
3. Get Client to generate a PIM
4. Use "Change Handheld" option on mycingular website to enter the new IMEI and PIN
5. Sucessfully access BIS
Please let me know which version of the 8525 ROM and BB Connect you used.
Thanks for your help!
Here's my setup:
1) Cingular 8525 SIM/CID unlocked (HardSPL 7)
2) Elf's 2.1 Crackberry ROM (WM6) - very nice stable build.
3) BBConnect 4.0.0.67 CAB
4) Cingular Blackberry Tethered Unlimited (both BIS and BES enabled)
Make sure you have a data connection working first.
BBConnect will issue you PIN after you click the Register button - you can see this in the BB Connect utility on your handheld.
You can then use this PIN and your phone IMEI on Cingular's BB site:
http://mycingular.blackberry.com/
Don't forget to download the Service books.
If your company has Outlook Web access for Exchange Server you can avoid BES.
BBConnect only allows 3 email boxes on a non-BB device.
Everything works fine except that the BB Service hogs the wireless connection so that I sometimes have problems with other services require internet connection.
Toss that Cingular ROM (even the latest 2.15 update) - it's worthless and a real headache - very unstable
I'm getting ready to install this, can you explain this comment:
If your company has Outlook Web access for Exchange Server you can avoid BES.

Fax, Answering machine, or Internet for 56k modem

OK I got a NIB Socket CF 56k Modem on ebay for next to nothing. I couldn't pass it up. BTW its a v.92 and I have a Dell AXIM X50v
1st. I want to access the internet when I'm traveling or in an emergency though dial up. I will spend about $6 a month for it if I have too. Who supports this kind of service? My broadband provider has free dial up but they have a propietary dialer you have to activate that isn't for WM. Anyone know what company's I can look at? I got onto the free new england dial up no problem. But I'm in Florida AC(813).
2nd Is there any answering machine software I can get? The cards supposed to support caller ID etc....
3rd Is there any kind of fax software I can get to receive faxes while I"m mobile?
Anyhelp would be greatly apreciated.
thanks guys
maxpower097
1 not sure what it is you want to do a pda cant use an external old analog modem
and one cant connect to a normal analog modem service with a pdaphone
one can connect with a laptop to an analog modem service and connect to the laptop with the pda.
but if one is traveling in other countries and connect to an isp at home it will cost alot
2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357635
So far the best solution seems to be dial4less.com here in the states. They say there fully PPC compatible and don't use dialers. Covers a lot of the U.S. And they have a 25 hour a month plan for 5.99 a month.
I'm gonna play with the i secretary. Now I just need to find a fax program. Any other ISP's I should look at lemme know. I'd love to get 5 or 10 hours a month for cheaper.
ok I found a great fax program for a cf 56k modem too. Its called KSE True Fax 2004 3.01v. I tried other versions but they only worked with WM phone editions. This will work with a normal PDA with a compact flash modem.

Blackberry Connect Issues

Okay, lets start with the good news, finally took the plunge and grabbed a Diamond 2 via the offer on mobiles.co.uk, overall very pleased with the handset, with some minor tweaks its working just fine, a few things to resolve to get it sorted as I would want.
One of the issues still to be resolved is Blackberry Connect integration which is not currently working, I need to expand a little on how it had been working for me before the Diamond 2 arrived in my letterbox.
I've been running Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.106 on my Kaiser for a while now, works very well, I was supplied instantemail (T-Mobile) access to Blackberry email service, handset never failed to connect and due to the open nature of T-Mobiles' very good web & walk service never paid any extra data charges in the UK, my PAC transfer happened on Friday and as T-Mobile closed my network access on that day.
I have subscribed to unlimited internet/Blackberry access via O2, currently I have not managed to log on to this service using the Diamond 2, I have tried the following BB Connect WM clients:
4.0.0.97
4.0.0.106
4.0.0.100 (handset fails to boot !)
The BB Connect Identity tab shows PIN as "Pending" & I.P Address as "No Connection", if I use the "Register Now" tab on the utility tab its connects for a couple of seconds, returns an I.P then just returns to the state above.
O2 tech support have not been that useful although I sort of understand my problem is not a normal one...
I thought my problem was a network issue, although I took the O2 sim out of the Diamond 2 and placed it in the Kaiser and that then proceeded to download all my T-Mobile instantemail that had arrived on that account since Friday, due to this can I assume the network is not the issue ?
My questions are, what is a fault ?
* Handset ?
* Blackberry Connect ?
* 02 Network ?
* Blackberry BIS Server ?
Last question, the deal with O2 is Blackberry service and "unlimited internet", I checked by online bill yesterday and had £15 worth of data charges, seems the unlimited part is only if you connect via blackberry browser, does that also mean I'm lumped with the very poor P.I.E as a browser as opposed to either of the Opera products or Skyfire ?
Any help/assistance gratefully accepted
Retronana
I have been trying various clients too;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507903
Still no luck....
See the solution here
I'm moving to o2 from orange and was wondering if the BB charges issues have been sorted yet? will be on unlimited web but will move to unlimited BB if I can use other browsers!

X1 as Fax modem in Vista

Please don't laugh but is it anyway possible to use the X1 as a old style fax modem then its connected to my laptop running vista business?
I can see that there is a 9600 baud modem inside the phone, but how do I make Vista recognize this ??
Xperia doesn't contain an duuuud du duuu modem???
haha, indeed, strange wannahave..
But, don't know of it is even possible to use a mobile line for fax communication..
But, just found a few fax programs with McGoogle.. so.. let met know
wallie-s said:
haha, indeed, strange wannahave..
But, don't know of it is even possible to use a mobile line for fax communication..
But, just found a few fax programs with McGoogle.. so.. let met know
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there is a setting on the phone for an old baud 9600 modem. Shouldn't it be able to fax??
Maybe this could help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371425
If you go thru the posts, you'll find this:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/mo...81#screenshots
Funny how a search on google turned up more than a search on our own damn forum...Search function sucks!
The SE Xperia X1 has a inbuild FAX Modem.
Sending a Fax with the X1 is from the Hardwareside possible.
I have searched the last week nearly two days
for a software that i can install on the X1
for fax handling.
The only programm that was prommissing was
"True Fax". True Fax make the Phone to a Fax macine.
It allow sending and receiving of Fax with
the Mobilephone.
This programm however is outdated and
works only for older HTC Phones.
I have solved my problem by replacing the need of a fax with the mail functionality of the phone.
You should have however have the possibility to connect
the X1 Modem with Vista over BT. Afterthis select as outgoing connection in Vista the new Modem. With a good Faxprogramm your Fax should be send by the SE X1.
Euroman28 said:
Please don't laugh but is it anyway possible to use the X1 as a old style fax modem then its connected to my laptop running vista business?
I can see that there is a 9600 baud modem inside the phone, but how do I make Vista recognize this ??
Xperia doesn't contain an duuuud du duuu modem???
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I read your post and like the idea, so I tried to set up a remote connection to the phone, in Vista, but the wizard will not display the phone modem (assuming there is one). The remote connection utilty in Vista looks like it always did in Windows (I see it sometimes because it pops up when I launch my wifi modem's connection). If the modem is found, any fax program should find it.
I should think there is a way because it's not too long ago since the gsm operators were actively marketing their business packages with the big thing then - fax from the mobile. I know I can still get an extra number to the mobile phone, that will only handle fax calls.
If it cannot be done, you an always let Vista use X1s internet connection, then send the document with something like PamFax for Skype (works great and the pennies for sending can be deducted from the Skype account so there's no extra business of filling up credits).
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Reclaim the fax! I don't call customer service or the government or the bank or whatever any longer - it's just holding lines and a lot of options that take you to an automated voice that says something stupid. If you send an email, you don't know if they'll answer. If they get a fax, for sure it WILL land on someones desk and they will treat it as a formal letter.
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Actually in bigger companies, their fax machines are inside their COMPUTERS. So there is nothing landing on anyones desk
And probably smaller companies can't afford a 'real' fax machine and will just use their computers.... same result
I'm in Europe. We're different.
You can try install BT dialup networking profile and then connect phone from vista as COM port modem.

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