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Don't hold out for Crossbow on the Hermes (on the Vario 2, at least)

After Crossbow was spotted running on an M3100 earlier this month, I fired off an email to T-Mobile asking them whether it would ever be available for the punters... Got a reply today:
The helpful Jann at T-Mobile said:
Good Morning Mr Woods
Thank you for your enquiry regarding handset updates.
So far the new AKU versions have all came out with new devices and the upgrade has never been supported from eg 2003 to 2005. if this will be available for the Crossbow then I don?t know.
From a t-mobile marketing point of view I would say it probably won't be available.
Kind Regards
Jann
T-Mobile
On 13/12/06 00:01, I wrote:
[From .CO.UK]
message:Now that Crossbow has been sighted in the wild on an Orange-branded flavour of the lovely Hermes, does T-Mobile have any kind of an ETA (be that from Microsoft themselves, TM head office or otherwise) for rolling it out to its Vario 2 customers?
I've read that Crossbow most likely won't be AKU3 of WM5, instead being an entirely new update which will be released before Microsoft release their Photon OS, and I've also seen it described as Windows Mobile 6 - but yeah, now that there's shots of an M3100 running it, it can't be that far from retail release, so I was just wondering if you had/have any plans in the works for letting us customers get it for their devices!
Cheers in advance
Christopher
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... Oh well. :/

that sucks :-(

He also is saying that there wont be a AKU3.x at all for the Hermes, and I think that's a load of BS. What he's saying is, if we want the latest AKU's, we have to buy new devices, FU buddy (the t-mobile guy that is)!

I'd say we need to concentrate on getting Buzz to update his stealth rom dumper.

If anyone has their hands on a Crossbow Hermes, get in touch with us. Buzz is temporarily detained, but source code of grabbit is available if required. What's needed?
Use Mamaich's rom dumper, the wiki solution or Pof's solution if you can. If not, contact a mod.
I suggest that it's unlikely an official Crossbow upgrade will come for Hermes. BUT the Samsung CPU has been popular and I imagine HTC will base a number of upcoming devices on the architecture. If so, a possible leaked rom may be hackable.
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Sleuth255 said:
I'd say we need to concentrate on getting Buzz to update his stealth rom dumper.
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A dump from WinCE is not as good as a dump from bootloader.
Someone should write a windows tool that communicates to bootloader over USB and does all the 'rbmc' commands needed to dump xbow.
Sleuth255: I see you've developed several apps... are you able to write such a tool if i give you the right bootloader commands? USB is seen as a serial device.

Keeping this thread alive and on top, maybe seen before, lots of Crossbow screenshots on this site:
http://www.pgcw.com.cn/newsdetail.asp?id=1366#here

How can we make it stealthy though? I may get my hands on a CrossBow equipped Hermes during MEDC 2K7 in May, but if I do, it'll most likely be in the exhibit area for only 5-10 minutes. This is why something like buzz's solution is so compelling.
I can certainly work on an app that will pull the ROM image when a device in bootloader mode is connected up to a PC. Having this certainly increases our chances if someone does manage to get one for a few hours.
I'll see what I can code up, but IMO we should also pursue buzz's stealth solution. Go ahead and point me towards the commands pof.. I can start with the instructions you left for tsuishui.

christopherwoods said:
After Crossbow was spotted running on an M3100 earlier this month, I fired off an email to T-Mobile asking them whether it would ever be available for the punters... Got a reply today:
... Oh well. :/
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Reading the message with open mind and not only with the eyes I read:
1) The man answering doesn't even knows the difference between OS and AKU. He speaks about 2003 and 2005 as AKU difference: ISN'T AKU, is a new OS release!
2) The same fellow doesn't even know the NAME of OSes! 2003 was right but we have Windows Mobile 5 an NOT 2005!
3) He is a man from the customer service, or, worst, probabily the answer comes from Tmobile marketing man, with little or no knowledge about the future of windows mobile devices, he knows about the past but seem really short sighted abut the future
4) The answer is the only answer he could give: if he will say "may be.." or "we will see" everyone will start asking WHEN, boring him from is well paid chair, so is better to say "no", beacuse "no" was the answer given since yesterday and worked! They don't sell devices, the sell radio time and traffic
5) In the Operators market strong agreements exists between MS and operators and marketing doesn't drive, they follow!
Overclock the brain reading messages and spokesmen transcripts from companies, not only eyes and be carefull when asking something simple but revolutionary to a large and with good revenues company: 90% of answers will be NO

WM6 available to Atom Life

This free update will be available to all current Atom Life users, and will involve either a download from the O2 Web site or a visit to one of its service centers.
The upgrade will change the operating system on the Atom Life from Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition to Windows Mobile 6 (WM6) Professional. One significant improvement in WM6 is the ability to receive and send emails in HTML format.
Available from May 12, the Atom Life will become one of the first commercially-available Windows Mobile products to sport the newer OS. Atom Life handhelds sold in stores from June onwards will also be preloaded with WM6. In comparison, Dopod, which will be acquired by HTC, will be upgrading its selected devices to WM6 in July.
Furthermore, the enhancements in the O2 Atom Life like O2 SMS Plus and O2 MediaPlus have been tested on the new OS, and will still be available on the Atom Life after the upgrade.
In addition, O2 said it is testing WM6 on its upcoming Xda Flame as well, and that the rest of its products to be launched in 2007 will also sport the new OS.
At press time, O2 was not able to confirm if its other handhelds like the Zinc and Graphite would get the WM6 upgrade as well.
quot from:http://asia.cnet.com/

Yay, great news!

tahnx mate for a good news.!!

It's 12 May here... no sign of update in seeO2. Getting impatient now. Ha ha.

programatix said:
It's 12 May here... no sign of update in seeO2. Getting impatient now. Ha ha.
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same here kekeke

It's 13th May!!!! Aaaaarrrrgggg! Well... It's weekends and I have nothing to do. At least let us who are too free to try upgrading the device... Damn you O2.
Ha ha.

What the..
programatix said:
It's 13th May!!!! Aaaaarrrrgggg! Well... It's weekends and I have nothing to do. At least let us who are too free to try upgrading the device... Damn you O2.
Ha ha.
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yeah is this a bad news or a good news... eerggg :-(

I suggest everyone to go to http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,62011618,00.htm and send them feedback regarding the news they have posted. At least CNet will go bother O2 for us (if a lot of us annoyed CNet enough, heh he).

Can the first person to update PLEASE post here?
Also can we change the topic to "WM6 available FOR Atom Life" hehe
Can't wait, I'm picking up my new Atom Life tomorrow!!!!!!!

Damm it. It already close to end of the day here and still no news from O2 site!!!

14 May 2007--As of today, the update to WM6 is still unavailable on O2's Web site or at its service centers. O2 has informed CNET Asia that this is due to a delay in the approval process with Microsoft. The company hopes to release the update before the end of the week, but was unable to be more specific about exactly which day this will occur.
refer to CNET asia website::
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,62011618,00.htm

It's getting closer: the page for WM6 ROM upgrade is up at the official website:
http://www.seeo2.com/user/XdaAtomLife/template/XdaAtomLife_WM6_May2007_WWE.vm

I can see "Get the latest patches, utilities, software and upgrades here". in O2 site.
Still cannot download. Nothing there.

Wow, this topic is getting hot. I was contacted by CNet Asia about O2 delaying the release and hoping to tell you guys but it seems like someone else beat me to it.
Heh he... let see who'll the first to post when he/she successful upgraded to WM6.... but sigh.... I'll be outstation for a week. Waaaa

Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade
O2 looks forward to bringing you the benefits of Windows Mobile 6 Professional operating system.
Do check back at this page over the next few days for when this exciting upgrade will be available.

Long long way to wait for a such upgrade package.

It seems like CNet is playing a major role in pushing O2 to inform us of the update progress.
I wounder if we could ask CNet to help us push O2 to hear our plight for other fixes.

hi but does anyone know if it could be use for Atom Exec?

Confirmed By O2 Hong Kong WM6 upgrade will be released within May 2007.

jason_k said:
hi but does anyone know if it could be use for Atom Exec?
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Err... if you would like to disable your Atom Exec... then you can try flashing it.
Anyway, unless someone here in the forum help you cook the ROM, then the answer is, No.

Now that TG-01 is xda member...

Is it going to get some expirienced rom developer and phone cracker? I would really enjoy being able to flash new roms.... So that's my petition! Crack the rom flashing system!

Now that TG-01 is xda member
we broke the enigma code
think TG01 should be easier, if xda developers are up to a challenge!
even the ps3 has been decrypted come on guys

I wonder how popular is this phone with the developers?

i would be more then happy to donate a reward to the person/team who crack tg01 to get custom roms working it what this phone needs i bet there are devs more then capable of it

I for one would love the TG01 to have the ability to have custom roms on! I'm near enough at the end of my tether with the software on this phone its absolutely terrible. Who knows how long its going to be before Orange decided to roll out the mysterious update from toshiba that fixes the call noise problems etc...think its going to be a while anyway!
So any form of development on this phone would be a god send from what is out there just now and at the end of the day £150 in the UK for the fastest phone on the market is phenominal value!!
I've never bothered looking into the decryption of phones but I think I might when I've got time have a look into it to try and help out

Hope you guys of this wonderful xda developers team can take a look to tg01 and bring us the opportunity to have some new rom ! Thanks in adv.

If they do manage to crack and flash custom roms on the TG01, would it be possible to have HTC running apps/software on it? thanks

you are all dreaming you will not see any thing useful in xda the concentration is on htc devices

yes and dreams come true for some hopefully its possible, this device is quite awesome especially if it had custom roms

hoss_n2 said:
you are all dreaming you will not see any thing useful in xda the concentration is on htc devices
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Thats because HTC was all that was available originally. A lot of people are now joining up (myself included) because XDA has now included other popular handsets. Even the HTC phones had to start somewhere . . .

sagam12 said:
yes and dreams come true for some hopefully its possible, this device is quite awesome especially if it had custom roms
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Salut la compagnie !
Having bought my French TG01 second-hand, with WinMo 6.5 + Orange overlay, I've desimlocked it, because I'm a Bouygues customer. Now, I would really like to get rid of all the Orange additions which seem to gum up the works.
Interestingly enough, a few minutes ago, I tried to get on the Toshiba France site to see whether they are now offering downloads of unbranded WinMo 6.5, and I couldn't even find the Toshiba Mobile/TG01 page any longer. Did I not look hard enough ? Or has Toshiba abandoned the TG01 ?
Thanks to all !

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Salut la compagnie !
Having bought my French TG01 second-hand, with WinMo 6.5 + Orange overlay, I've desimlocked it, because I'm a Bouygues customer. Now, I would really like to get rid of all the Orange additions which seem to gum up the works.
Interestingly enough, a few minutes ago, I tried to get on the Toshiba France site to see whether they are now offering downloads of unbranded WinMo 6.5, and I couldn't even find the Toshiba Mobile/TG01 page any longer. Did I not look hard enough ? Or has Toshiba abandoned the TG01 ?
Thanks to all !
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Next time look hard
http://www.toshiba-europe.com/mobile/

Many thanks and very sorry !
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Next time look hard
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P.S. As a new user, I couldn't leave Bojan6's link in the message, but it's there in the thread.

... chat today: ask SE about 2.1/Q4 or froyo

... in a live chat (fireside),
today 20 May 2010 at 1pm (westcoast) close to the google-boyz:
link: code.google.com/events/io/2010/sessions/fireside-chat-android-handset-manufacturers.html

So.. what came of this chat?? Or have I got my timezones wrong and it's not yet happened?? Interested to hear what SE said about keeping up with the O/S releases.

its at 9 pm uk time i think

Google got the wrong link:
h**ps://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+-Xhdu7ZkBK7
It's this and it starts soon !!!
Give the SE guy some questions, because know the htc folks are spamming there ^^
EDIT: now it's correct

Really don't get it.. just looked on the chat site and it looks like it's all questions and no answers! am I missing something?

im_iceman said:
Really don't get it.. just looked on the chat site and it looks like it's all questions and no answers! am I missing something?
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Was wondering the same thing. I voted for the questions, but don't understand where the fireside answers are?
Google Wave confuses me.

Bizarre isn't it... I was thinking that I was being thick... perhaps it's just the least intuitive site ever built.. ?!

im_iceman said:
Bizarre isn't it... I was thinking that I was being thick... perhaps it's just the least intuitive site ever built.. ?!
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Yes, it is

there should have been live notes ... that really sucked !

sorry,
i was thinking, we could have a better chance SE will listen. But this live wave thing is/was a desaster.
I cant believe, that there was nobody who listen/answerd etc. ... sometimes google sucks
... hopefully there was a real fireside-talk and somebody asked the right questions (but i dont believe),
but we have a new name for a SE - android contact: "Bill Maggs"

meta96 said:
i was thinking, we could have a better chance SE will listen. But this live wave thing is/was a desaster.
I cant believe, that there was nobody who listen/answerd etc. ... sometimes google sucks
... hopefully there was a real fireside-talk and somebody asked the right questions (but i dont believe),
but we have a new name for a SE - android contact: "Bill Maggs"
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I sent this through the se customer support website - i don't know if it's any good...
Hello there - Would it be possible that the Xperia X10 and X10 mini (pro) be upgraded to Android 2.2 Froyo instead of Android 2.1 Eclair by Q4 of this year? There are many new features being added, so by the time we get 2.1, it will be outdated. Froyo also seems to run on the 2.6.29 linux kernel, which the X10 already runs on, so porting that at least should be as difficult as Eclair.
Also,would it be possible for people who own these devices to flash unsigned roms by unlocking the bootloader in some way - like google has done with the nexus one. This would void the warranty of course, but it would people to develop their own roms who have not had the chance to obtain a pre-release or developer phone etc. Maybe they could even test things for you?
Please take this comment seriously - I'll be looking forward to see what you think of this.
Thanks

That's great Hunteron!
Do you think you could somehow get that to this "Bill Maggs" fellow?
This seriously bothers me. We have a phone with what is probably some of the best hardware on the market, but we are stuck with crap software.
This bit interests me though:
"but we are given a promise for extended firmware support for all OS-powered devices in the future."
http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_x10_to_get_hd_video_recording_and_android_21_in_q4-news-1634.php

HunteronX said:
I sent this through the se customer support website - i don't know if it's any good...
Hello there - Would it be possible that the Xperia X10 and X10 mini (pro) be upgraded to Android 2.2 Froyo instead of Android 2.1 Eclair by Q4 of this year? There are many new features being added, so by the time we get 2.1, it will be outdated. Froyo also seems to run on the 2.6.29 linux kernel, which the X10 already runs on, so porting that at least should be as difficult as Eclair.
Also,would it be possible for people who own these devices to flash unsigned roms by unlocking the bootloader in some way - like google has done with the nexus one. This would void the warranty of course, but it would people to develop their own roms who have not had the chance to obtain a pre-release or developer phone etc. Maybe they could even test things for you?
Please take this comment seriously - I'll be looking forward to see what you think of this.
Thanks
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This was my se 'call centre' response...
Dear P,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your Sony Ericsson X10 handset.
We can advise that the the Android 2.1 software update is due to be released at the end of qauter 4. So this will be some point between October and December. We have not as of yet been advised on the extact date for release.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Kind Regards,
Emma Anderson
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
Not very useful is it, considering I already said that in my statement.
I don't know how to contact Bill Maggs though...

HunteronX said:
I don't know how to contact Bill Maggs though...
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Fire off another email to them. Maybe they will give you his.

[Q] Nokia N9

Hey guys, I saw the announcement of the N9, and it looks great. Do you think it will be possible to port MeeGo from it to our HD2s?

That's what Steve has pointed to in a recent tweet. Since the build he was running was based on the source wasn't really that good, he was actually waiting for the N9 to be released

Brilliant, thanks for telling me!
I look forward to what Steve can do with the release!

There is another guy called WeeZel working on that thing too,
the project called "WeeG0", he said once he accomplish something he will be posting it here in XDA-Dev.

I will make sure to look out for WeeZel too!
Thanks for letting me know!

My friend has the N950, which is a MeeGo developer phone,
I asked for a ROM dump and I might be getting it on Friday when he has some free time.

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My friend has the N950, which is a MeeGo developer phone,
I asked for a ROM dump and I might be getting it on Friday when he has some free time.
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great news mate... waiting for some miracle!!!

mr_billionaire said:
My friend has the N950, which is a MeeGo developer phone,
I asked for a ROM dump and I might be getting it on Friday when he has some free time.
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say could you give me a copy of the rom dump as well. Just want to play around with it to see if all this excitement is worth it. Is it alright if i pm you?

Hope the MeeGo dream come true. Bored of microsoft OSes, bored of Froyo/Ginger, give us our shot! Thx to those guys who they are really skillful in developing and porting all these OSes to Leo & thx to the htc team who created The Beast. HD2 is a legend. MeeGoGoGo!!!

Hello, any new news about port on HD2 or some other Android Phone´s?

update on this? the n9 is in sale since two weeks. I'd love to have MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan on my HTC Desire

Firmware Download
Hey guys and girls, i bought a Nokia N9 64GB this week and Meego/Meemo is fantastic, it has its little querks, but im sure i can change them.
Anyways, i dont know if this is what people where wanting in terms of a ROM dump or a firmware, but if you use the Nokia pheniox service tool you can get the relivent files from their fimeware archive to flash as a last resort
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514791847/279BB938_DFL61_HARMATTAN_10.2011.34-1.009.3_PR_LEGACY_009_ARM_RM-696_PRD_signed.bin
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514792462/70BEF372_RM696_059L5D4_10.2011.34.1_001.dcp
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514791841/4E239CFD_RM696_059L5D4_10.2011.34.1_001.vpl
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514792467/13995DBD_RM696_059L5D4_10.2011.34.1_001_signature.bin
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/5/--FID--A0A22TLIYTWIV/--LID--FiRe1306499462173/simlock_maemo__deB_allowed2_3gstandard_bb5_multi_asic0.bin
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/5/--FID--A0A22FUSWBPUH/--LID--FiRe1306499463394/simlock_maemo__deB_allowed2_3gstandard_bb5_multi_asic1.bin
In total its about 1.3GB with 6 files (this is for the unlocked swiss version), if theres a problem i can upload it somewhere for people to download
I hope this will be of some use or if its not, someone will tell me exactly what they are after. Otherwise i dont know if a source code request would be help achive the goal. (My hope is to get more people onboard)
The way i see it, there is alot of talk about the death of meego and yes alot of people have/will jump ship and move onto Intels next attempt, but there is enough fans out there to keep it somewhat going and since Nokia has decided to sell a product, they should support it for at least a year if not two.
I have had a long look at what is avaliable on the Nokia store and the quality of the free apps is outstanding, the paid apps are for the most part in the same boat, but there is a fair few ports of rubbish found on the competing stores asking for your hard earned cash.
err, i dont know else to add, but
Ciao!