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Any more news on WM5 AKU2 ROMs?

Most of us know that Microsoft released AKU2 for WM5 to manufacturers just before christmas, but does anyone has any solid leads on a release date for any updated ROMs that include it? I heard rumours about imate having a JASJAR update sometime in January - their support staff confirmed "sometime in the next month" but thats a bit vague!
I have a HTC Universal and am therefore happy to know about an XDA EXEC ROM or any other Universal device ROM

Here's my reply from o2:
Hi,
Thank you for your email,
The rumours are correct and Microsoft’s AUK2 update for Windows Mobile 5.0 has been released to our devices team. They are currently working on a ROM upgrade for both our Windows Mobile 5.0 devices.
Unfortunately due to the complexity of developing a stable ROM we currently have no timescales on a public release. All I can advise you to do is keep checking our web site. As soon as the ROM is released it will be available for download at www.my-xda.com under “software updates” for the relevant device.
I hope this answers your query, if you have any more questions don’t hesitate to contact us.
Regards
O2 Customer Technical Support UK

It is really heartening to know that the O2 support staff is going through this forum. It is the best way for manufacturers / distributors and operators to know the ground realities and what problems the user is really experiencing. Once again my appreciation to O2 UK.
Just wish others like I-Mate would do the same.
Kind Regards

? think you might be getting a little confused there...
anyway, I might be applying for a job at O2 Arlington Call Centre, don't know yet, if I do, and I do get the job, XDA Dev will have an O2 staff browsing the forums, that is if there isn't one or more already

AKU 2 is here late febuary or erly march
Hi
I contacted the danish distribuater of Qtek 9000 yesterday and they have AKU 2 updated rom ready late febuary or erly march

wytey said:
? think you might be getting a little confused there...
anyway, I might be applying for a job at O2 Arlington Call Centre, don't know yet, if I do, and I do get the job, XDA Dev will have an O2 staff browsing the forums, that is if there isn't one or more already
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I'm in an O2 cal centre, but sales only, not suport...

The QTEK ROM with AKU2 will be out beginning of March , Mid-March.
This is a confirmed date.

Working on the law of averages and assuming the o2 Data Support guys are as switched on as normal mid-march sounds good.
Bearing in mind that currently AKU2 is rife with memory leakage and hence the fervent patching that needs to be done at HTC and o2 and the other OEMs ends.

Where can you download qtek roms from????
I still haven't found a decent official website of qtek!!
So even if they build a new rom, where do you get them from? Where do you check if they have released a new rom?!
*Patiently waits for the update*!
San

Anyone have any idea when we will see a new O2 Exec ROM?

Anyone working for O2 here know when O2 are going to release a new ROM for the Exec?
Regards

I've asked, and no-one knows (all they know is that it'll be later than any internal release date; which they didn't have).

link to o2 XDA Exec Software Update
You are required to enter your phone number and imei number.
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft.html

Anyone know if this version (v1.13.188) is the latest release similar to that for the JasJar etc?
...to answer my own question. I guess not. JasJar seems to be ROM VERSION 1.30.76 WWE

You dont have to enter your mobile or IMEI number if you go here for future exec updates
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft3.html

when hell freezes over?
bit cynical ..... but like most people I have been trying to get an answer and all i can get is... we are working on it... we will release an update.. but no dates as yet...
If you were o2.. and were getting a shed load of money from Blackberry contracts every month would you rush out and release an update that enables a competimg product that might cut into some of that phat profit

1.13.188 is an update over the launch version that came with the Exec when it was released, however it is significantly behind the imate, Orange and T-Mobile ones. As usual, o2 are last with an update.
To be honest, my iMate one works so well, I'm not even sure if I'm willing to flash it back to an o2 ROM. It'll have to be a pretty amazing release.
Cheers
Ant

What are the differences between the o2 and I-Mate one?

This update has been in testing for over a month now so hopefully should be release soon. It wont include A2DP though.
Also you dont need the IMEI number anyway, just simply change the 2 to a 3 in the address bar (http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft2.html - change to soft3 on the end).
oops!

stuartwatkins
do you know it definitely not have a2dp ? a contact I have at o2 tells me it will. he has been wrong before but was sure the new rom would contain a2dp.

@CRJL, i did not think A2DP has been included in any of the ROM updates. In fact, I am not sure if any of the HTC WM5 devices has A2DP at the moment (someone please correct this if I am wrong).

@jah. I know that's why I was excited about this o2 rom. it may well be he is full of poo. we will see. like I said he has been wrong before

I am absolutly sure! O2 have said that this will be included in future ROM updates, but not the new one - shame!

I was hoping that the fact that O2's update was taking so long was maybe a sign that it would include A2DP where others had not.

MS give links to the devices with A2DP already available:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/5/default.mspx
I know the spv600s now ship with it
rgds

The mail I got from O2 stated that it would include A2DP so it will be interesting to see if they make good on the promise.
I reckon it will be in the next few weeks though.
I did offer to beta test (nudge nudge wink wink) but they knocked me back.
Cheers

since my post I have been intouch with my "friend" at o2. he is 95% sure that the reason for the delay in the rom release is due to a2dp being made ready for this ROM :0 :0
He also says it will be out in no more than 14days.

CRJL said:
since my post I have been intouch with my "friend" at o2. he is 95% sure that the reason for the delay in the rom release is due to a2dp being made ready for this ROM :0 :0
He also says it will be out in no more than 14days.
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Can you ask your mate if Blackberry Connect is going to be available too?

im going to be right pissy if ad2p isnt included when there are other mickey mouse phones being shipped with wm5 and ad2p.

Any more news? Or is everyone still waiting...

Don't hold out for Crossbow on the Hermes (on the Vario 2, at least)

After Crossbow was spotted running on an M3100 earlier this month, I fired off an email to T-Mobile asking them whether it would ever be available for the punters... Got a reply today:
The helpful Jann at T-Mobile said:
Good Morning Mr Woods
Thank you for your enquiry regarding handset updates.
So far the new AKU versions have all came out with new devices and the upgrade has never been supported from eg 2003 to 2005. if this will be available for the Crossbow then I don?t know.
From a t-mobile marketing point of view I would say it probably won't be available.
Kind Regards
Jann
T-Mobile
On 13/12/06 00:01, I wrote:
[From .CO.UK]
message:Now that Crossbow has been sighted in the wild on an Orange-branded flavour of the lovely Hermes, does T-Mobile have any kind of an ETA (be that from Microsoft themselves, TM head office or otherwise) for rolling it out to its Vario 2 customers?
I've read that Crossbow most likely won't be AKU3 of WM5, instead being an entirely new update which will be released before Microsoft release their Photon OS, and I've also seen it described as Windows Mobile 6 - but yeah, now that there's shots of an M3100 running it, it can't be that far from retail release, so I was just wondering if you had/have any plans in the works for letting us customers get it for their devices!
Cheers in advance
Christopher
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... Oh well. :/

that sucks :-(

He also is saying that there wont be a AKU3.x at all for the Hermes, and I think that's a load of BS. What he's saying is, if we want the latest AKU's, we have to buy new devices, FU buddy (the t-mobile guy that is)!

I'd say we need to concentrate on getting Buzz to update his stealth rom dumper.

If anyone has their hands on a Crossbow Hermes, get in touch with us. Buzz is temporarily detained, but source code of grabbit is available if required. What's needed?
Use Mamaich's rom dumper, the wiki solution or Pof's solution if you can. If not, contact a mod.
I suggest that it's unlikely an official Crossbow upgrade will come for Hermes. BUT the Samsung CPU has been popular and I imagine HTC will base a number of upcoming devices on the architecture. If so, a possible leaked rom may be hackable.
V

Sleuth255 said:
I'd say we need to concentrate on getting Buzz to update his stealth rom dumper.
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A dump from WinCE is not as good as a dump from bootloader.
Someone should write a windows tool that communicates to bootloader over USB and does all the 'rbmc' commands needed to dump xbow.
Sleuth255: I see you've developed several apps... are you able to write such a tool if i give you the right bootloader commands? USB is seen as a serial device.

Keeping this thread alive and on top, maybe seen before, lots of Crossbow screenshots on this site:
http://www.pgcw.com.cn/newsdetail.asp?id=1366#here

How can we make it stealthy though? I may get my hands on a CrossBow equipped Hermes during MEDC 2K7 in May, but if I do, it'll most likely be in the exhibit area for only 5-10 minutes. This is why something like buzz's solution is so compelling.
I can certainly work on an app that will pull the ROM image when a device in bootloader mode is connected up to a PC. Having this certainly increases our chances if someone does manage to get one for a few hours.
I'll see what I can code up, but IMO we should also pursue buzz's stealth solution. Go ahead and point me towards the commands pof.. I can start with the instructions you left for tsuishui.

christopherwoods said:
After Crossbow was spotted running on an M3100 earlier this month, I fired off an email to T-Mobile asking them whether it would ever be available for the punters... Got a reply today:
... Oh well. :/
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Reading the message with open mind and not only with the eyes I read:
1) The man answering doesn't even knows the difference between OS and AKU. He speaks about 2003 and 2005 as AKU difference: ISN'T AKU, is a new OS release!
2) The same fellow doesn't even know the NAME of OSes! 2003 was right but we have Windows Mobile 5 an NOT 2005!
3) He is a man from the customer service, or, worst, probabily the answer comes from Tmobile marketing man, with little or no knowledge about the future of windows mobile devices, he knows about the past but seem really short sighted abut the future
4) The answer is the only answer he could give: if he will say "may be.." or "we will see" everyone will start asking WHEN, boring him from is well paid chair, so is better to say "no", beacuse "no" was the answer given since yesterday and worked! They don't sell devices, the sell radio time and traffic
5) In the Operators market strong agreements exists between MS and operators and marketing doesn't drive, they follow!
Overclock the brain reading messages and spokesmen transcripts from companies, not only eyes and be carefull when asking something simple but revolutionary to a large and with good revenues company: 90% of answers will be NO

Atom Life

Atom Life is in the market now! It is really attractive to me. However I heard ppl said that O2 wont do much about the ROM update and less ppl willing to custom make some ROMs for it too. That makes me thinking...is it worth to buy Atom Life? Should I wait for other brands release some devices with similar spec?
Sigh...maybe I should stick with my HP rw6828 and wait...

I have the same thoughts. I want the XDA Atom Life but I really want WM6, as far as I know the Atom Life isn't even realeased in Australia yet but it is very soon, around the 19/3/07 so it hasn't even been released and it has an old operating system, that would be like ordering a brand new computer and getting windows XP, it's that stupid and I really don't think O2 like to do any upgrades.
Does anyone think WM6 will be avaliable for this phone or even made for it by developers on this site??? I have an i-mate Jasjam and Jasjar and the differences between the amount of activity on those forum compared to the atom forum is massive, does anyone really buy the XDA Atoms, they say it was a big seller but the forums show differently.

seal,
Too late, i am already in the hole.
I have sold out my HP RW6828 and gotten the Atom Life last week. I am in HK and Atom Life was released in HK on Feb 28.
So far it is great! I am satisfied it more than my old RW6828.

Hello,
is the Phonepad for Atom (that you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262768) compatible with Atom Life? thanks!

I am not sure. I didn't install that program.

Would you mind trying to install it please?

I just got my atom life too, and i wasn't too worried about not being able to upgrade to WM6. New OS's take notoriously long before the majority of software become compatible. Just look at the time taken for most software to convert from 2003 to wm5. I am sure by that time most users would've changed a phone, or someone would've figured out how to install wm6 in atom life.

I just heard back from O2 and here's what they said.
"Dear Greg,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
With reference to the issue that you have raised below, as you have noted, currently released O2 devices run on Windows Mobile 5 operating system. Please be informed that O2 Asia is currently looking into the possibility of Windows Mobile 6.0 devices (no further news as of this moment).
We do value the feedback you have provided with us. We will attempt to relay it to the relevant department for review and future possible action. We thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com"
Once again no commitment. I tend to agree now with the above post, so many things still don't work with WM6 so I will stick to WM5 and skin it to look like Wm6.

Basically they say "we won't ever give you WM6 on already excisting devices, but in a while, when WM6 is starting to get stable, we may develop something that runs it". Atom Mark 4, I guess. And I totally agree, WM6 at the moment is far from leading edge. It's not even bleeding edge. It's moronic edge. Like WM5 when it came it's really only an Alpha system from what I have read in different tests. Like the original Atom. It took more than half a year from it came until it was truly a release version, not Alpha or Beta.

i allso don't think O2 will do it.. this is what i got from them.
Dear Ali,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
With regards to your query below, O2 Asia latest products (Xda Atom, Xda Zinc and Xda Stealth) are running on Windows Mobile 5, O2 Asia has not release any plans with regard to upgrading the Operating System of these product.
Should you require any further assistant, kindly reply to this email. Thank you.
Warmest Regards,
Yee Chan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: cyee#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products information, please visit http://www.seeo2.com

Interesting with technical support personell who writes worse english than most Norwegian 16 year olds... Don't they have Word to spell and grammar check their mesages?

Couple of things I have yet to installed into my Atom Life.
1. Phone pad.
2. Portrait/Landscape view icon. I believe some PDAs have this feature for easy conversion of screen display by just tapping on the icon.
Actually, I installed Phone pad but apparently, it didn't seemed compatible as I believe it's for Atom Exec. Is it due to version difference? As for the Portrait/Landscape icon, is there a link here for the upload? Thanks!

Pester T-Mobile UK for ROM Release!

Hi Guys
Now that HTC have said they are releasing a WM6 upgrade for the Tytn and other operators (see here)
I think it is time we started a mass pester on T-Mobile UK to release the Vario 2 Rom and Rom Updates, I have had mine since October of last year and so far it seems all other operators are providing the original rom and the rom updates except T-Mobile.
Think a massive email spam from all Vario 2 users on here would help to put the pressure on, if not just annoy them enough to stop giving us the same old answer....
Here to complain

I tried that a few weeks back, and they gave me a flat out "no" and the main bulk of their message was that if I wanted WM 6 then I would have to purchase a newer device.

What a load of drivel from them, they are being ultimate t****rs, I have sent another spam mail to them asking what is going on!
I am doubtful I will get a decent reply. What is annoying is HTC are providing the ROM royalty free to the operators! Why are the end users not seeing the benefits in a rom release from them, even the original rom isn't being released as of yet. I know we have the hard work of Cluster, JJ and others creating WM6 but it would be nice of T-Mobile UK to support their users!
Sorry to rant just getting a little miffed off with them!

I know the feeling i've got both the mda's on t-mobile uk and i've seen a rom update (not wm6 mind up the aku 3.3 update) for the mda vario but not the vario 2, so to get wm6 like i'm running on the hermes i had to use a rom that i downloaded from xda. if i have to send it back to be repaired i'm buggerd as t-mobile dont have a rom download for it so i can download to wm5, looks like t-mobile uk are supporting the ameo now and the newer devices

I have send them a uber snotty email I wanna know why there is a lack of support for the device after only 9months!

A response and its not a no or a yes
Thank you for your further Email.
There has been discussions regarding a ROM update for the MDA Vario II to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6, however there has been no clarification as to whether T-Mobile will be providing this as yet.
Any ROM update that is available for any of T-Mobile`s SDA and MDA range of handsets will always be updated onto the following T-Mobile run download website, the link for this is as follows:
www.tm-phonedownloads.com
I would recommend trying this site periodically for any updates or possibly enquire at a later date for any developments.
I am sorry if this is not the answer you were hoping for.
If we can help further please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
David McAnally
T-Mobile

Jygar said:
David McAnally
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*Sniggers like a juvenile* How apt.