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Help – newbie with connectivity problems with my Mac

I just got this phone (HTC Wizard/MDA VArio) as a free upgrade and I spent hours last night trying to hook them both up so I can simply transfer files from one to the other. I couldn't get them to link.
Are they compatable in terms of just transfering files? I was hoping to sync the address book, calender, etc
I have done a search on this forum for things relating to Macs but I'm a bit confused with some of the topics. As you can see I'm a total novice and not very technical so I was wandering if anyone can help me out in terms of easy straightforward answers?
I'm quite familiar with Macs but I've never used PC's/windows before so if I don't get any help I may need to return this phone
Cheers in advance

To my knowledge there is not presently a way to sync the MDA with a Mac, unless of course, you have an Intel-based Mac and Bootcamp installed with a copy of XP.
In time Pocket Mac or the Missing Sync will have a menas of syncing them.
Up to this point I've been transfering my phonebook via bluetooth a few contacts at a time. This is only a temporary measure and a poor one at that.

kroc_kroc said:
I'm quite familiar with Macs but I've never used PC's/windows before so if I don't get any help I may need to return this phone
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Don't panic. The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile 5 is worth looking at. It is at alpha version 9 as of this message, and it will allow you to at least get the address book to your phone. That is a huge help.
http://www.markspace.com/testing/MSWM25_alpha.html
You can use Bluetooth to send and receive files... it works like a champ... though I'm on the Cingular 8125, so ymmv.
You can send CAB files via Bluetooth to install software. Some silly developers distribute .exe files, and those require some special attention (Open them in VPC, the find the CABs and send the from the Mac via Bluetooth. )
Anyway, don't send it back just yet! We're close.

zerologic said:
kroc_kroc said:
I'm quite familiar with Macs but I've never used PC's/windows before so if I don't get any help I may need to return this phone
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Don't panic. The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile 5 is worth looking at. It is at alpha version 9 as of this message, and it will allow you to at least get the address book to your phone. That is a huge help.
http://www.markspace.com/testing/MSWM25_alpha.html
You can use Bluetooth to send and receive files... it works like a champ... though I'm on the Cingular 8125, so ymmv.
You can send CAB files via Bluetooth to install software. Some silly developers distribute .exe files, and those require some special attention (Open them in VPC, the find the CABs and send the from the Mac via Bluetooth. )
Anyway, don't send it back just yet! We're close.
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Have you used Missing Sync? I have not but have heard mixed reviews -- most leaning on the negative.
I've used PocketMac and early versions messed up my address book beyond repair. In all fairness that was the original release version. More recent versions have worked perfectly.
Regardless, neither PM or MS have Windows Mobile 5 support as a stable product at this point.

shockdaddyd said:
Have you used Missing Sync? I have not but have heard mixed reviews -- most leaning on the negative.
I've used PocketMac and early versions messed up my address book beyond repair. In all fairness that was the original release version. More recent versions have worked perfectly.
Regardless, neither PM or MS have Windows Mobile 5 support as a stable product at this point.
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I'm using Missing Sync 2.5a9 now... the alpha version, with my Cingular 8125. I'm giving it some leeway, it is alpha after all. My address book, calendar data, and tasks are all in tact.
I have no experience with PocketMac, so I can't speak to your experience with it.

that sounds promising. do you need a copy of missing sync to get the alpha?

shockdaddyd said:
that sounds promising. do you need a copy of missing sync to get the alpha?
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Yes, and I took the risk ;-) Just be sure to read the mailing list archives before you plunk down the cash... the process is much better with a9, but it still isn't perfect.
The bottom line though is that I have all of my data on my 8125... and that rocks.

hmmmmmm....
so, on your report, i purchased missing sync. the v.2 version installed without issue. i then upgraded to the alpha and now the app won't start up -- it pops up on my screen then disappears. did you have that problem?
i've been perusing the support pages but can't find a solution.

i should rephrase that...the app starts up then quits, as in dead.
looking through their site i must say they have the worst documentation i've seen in recent years.
i've tried dumping the plist files and that doesn't seem to help.

shockdaddyd said:
i should rephrase that...the app starts up then quits, as in dead.
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Interesting. I did not have that problem... and I don't remember that being an issue at all on the alpha mailing list. Here are the archives:
http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-testing
The developers are pretty active on it.
I'm on a PowerBook G4 1.67 17"... what are you on?

zerologic said:
shockdaddyd said:
i should rephrase that...the app starts up then quits, as in dead.
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Interesting. I did not have that problem... and I don't remember that being an issue at all on the alpha mailing list. Here are the archives:
http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-testing
The developers are pretty active on it.
I'm on a PowerBook G4 1.67 17"... what are you on?
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yeah, i thought it was strange. perhaps it's on my end.
i'm on a powerbook 1.25 15". if i can't figure it out i'll try again later on my dual g5 to see if i have better luck.
thanks for the reply and the link.

AIM on the Wizard

Ok, so since T-Mobile and Cingular (here in America) want to ban the use of AIM 2.0 on the Pocket PC, and instead, use their service (which charges 10cents an IM), I was wondering if anyone has worked on a hack to fix this.
Basically, both companies have done something to the software, in which when AIM is installed, it will not allow you to sign on. Please note... I am NOT looking for a replacement suggestion for AIM, I am looking for the AIM program itself. There has to be SOME sort of way around this tweak, and I am truly hoping one of the many genius minds that browse this forum would be so kind enough as to help.

do you some sort of error or it just doesnt send

have you tried agile..? it has all the instant messengers

Hello!
This is what I use, and I don't seem to get 10 cents a IM.
Just unzip the cab and transfer it to your device and install!
*Edit* I am in the USA also, just so ya'know.

Agile messenger would be your best bet.
It acts a service and send text messages to your phone instead of the actually message. Just as long as you have a text plan you should be fine.

I prefer Verichat to Agile. The only draw for Agile right now is that it's free, but it's beta. The beta version of Agile likes to crash a lot. Verichat is on th expensive side, but I think it's worth it.

Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!

They charge $20 for that chunk of crap?!? That thing barely functioned under 2003 3 years ago. :lol:

95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)

guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
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Not sure what you're asking for, maybe someone else will know.

drdingo21 said:
Agile messenger would be your best bet.
It acts a service and send text messages to your phone instead of the actually message. Just as long as you have a text plan you should be fine.
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i thought agile uses internet?

I was under that impression also. Then I read around on the internet and people were saying that it does indeed act as a gateway to thier servers and sens txt messages back and forth.
Now after your reply and I checked to make sure, I'm finding both answers...So I'm not sure anymore.

drdingo21 said:
I was under that impression also. Then I read around on the internet and people were saying that it does indeed act as a gateway to thier servers and sens txt messages back and forth.
Now after your reply and I checked to make sure, I'm finding both answers...So I'm not sure anymore.
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i am pretty sure its internet because i see no sms charges for when i used aim last time *edit* and it also shows stats for how much kb has been used

mightymegit said:
Hello!
This is what I use, and I don't seem to get 10 cents a IM.
Just unzip the cab and transfer it to your device and install!
*Edit* I am in the USA also, just so ya'know.
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Awesome!! That works amazing!
Is the start bar inverted to get it to work here?
Because I remember trying aim before and the thing wouldn't work right but the start bar wasn't on the bottom like this one.
Is it hacked or something?
Very nice though. Thanks!

drdingo21 said:
I was under that impression also. Then I read around on the internet and people were saying that it does indeed act as a gateway to thier servers and sens txt messages back and forth.
Now after your reply and I checked to make sure, I'm finding both answers...So I'm not sure anymore.
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My son and I both use Agile on our 8125's with a data plan. Agile useage goes against the kb/data, NOT the text messaging. You have to be connected to the internet to use Agile -- either through WiFi or GPRS.
We've NEVER been charged for text messaging using Agile.

Great! I can cancle my text message plan.

95scort said:
guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
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Not sure what you're asking for, maybe someone else will know.
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basically if there is a ppc version of America Online.

guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
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Not sure what you're asking for, maybe someone else will know.
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basically if there is a ppc version of America Online.
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There is but it won't work on WM5...
Unless some one can hack it like that above AIM program to move the WM5 start bar to the bottom when the program is active.

Let me break it down for you gentlemen...
Basically what's been happening (here in the east coast of the US at least) is Pocket PC phones have been becoming increasingly more powerful. Obviously, T-Mobile and Cingular are no dummies to waves, so they started to release some of their own. But in an attempt to garner more money, they've been releasing their own versions of AIM, which basically charge the user a text per message (sent or received). In addition, they basically disabled the old AIM 2.0, which was (and still is) highly popular amongst Pocket PCs that aren't branded, or simply don't have a phone equipped in them.
That button on the button that says "Sign On"? It's not there anymore. Neither is the File or Edit menus. There's something embedded in the registry that doesn't allow the usesr to use this version of AIM... which is why I created this topic to begin with.
Now as I stated originally, I wasn't looking for alternatives to AIM 2.0 on the Pocket PC... I like this version a lot. Back when I was using my unbranded i-mate Jam, I suppose I've gotten inclined to using this version more. I've tried Agile Mobile, but it is still way too buggy for me to want to use as my end-all be-all to AIM. And it's missing a lot of features I've grown used to with AIM 2.0. Other IM clients cost money for something I think should be freely distributed.
To anyone using an i-mate K-Jam, or a QTek 9100... this post simply doesn't apply to you. You picked up your phone unbranded, meaning you have no restrictions from your carrier. And I envy you because of that. But since I'm cheap and I'm getting my Cingular 8125 for $50, I'm trying to figure out some workaround to the situation. Hopefully someone can figure out a hack soon.
MightyMegit ... how certain are you that the program you posted doesn't use texts? Does it use data? I don't have a Wizard yet (hopefully within the next 24 hours), so I'm not able to test it out myself.
Anyway, thanks guys for your help, but I really want my AIM 2.0 back. I wish all you developers luck!!!

thanks for the clarification. i started using the aim 2.0 yesterday.
No wonder i noticed to menus or sign on options. What i do i select "stock quotes" or w.e and that signs me on.
It looks just like aim on pc and has aim sounds so i like the look of it. There just isnt options

PPT Agile Messenger on TyTN

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere or if it is staring me right in the face but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to map the PTT button on Agile messenger. I've got a "stock standard" HTC TyTN and Agile Messenger version AMST-WMPPC-59. Any help would do wonders for my quickly vanishing patience.

can't you use MS Messenger? - it's free. came already installed on mine.
doesn't have PTT though......

Ptt
Try using the record button.

Hey Pole Vaulter,
I'm using Agile AMST-WMPPC-2 and there is an option in OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > MEDIA. Click on the 'Assign push-to-talk button' and follow the instructions. I've used a few different buttons and found the mail key the better one as the functionality of a key is lost while Agile is running.
Hope this helps.
Gavin.

Gavin - is the option directly under the media tab? i followed the path Options > Preferences > Media and the only choice I can make is Auto Play messages.
Anybody know what exactly the 2 versus the 59 in the build number refers to?

Hi Pole,
Yeah that's exactly where it is on mine. Maybe you need to update your version of Agile.
Here is the link from the other post to download the ALPHA release I'm using: http://www.agilemobile.com/alpha/AgileMessengerWM5-alpha.zip
Gavin.

Gavin-
Tanks very much for the help -not sure what went wrong with the version I had (got it direct from their website) but the upgrade from your link sorted the problem out. Thanks again, I was beginning to go mad.

Its not an upgrade, its an older version. They started disabling the PTT on the newer versions (3.1 and up, I think)
Thanks SOOOO much for posting this link. I was looking for the version that still had it for about 5 months. I went all the way back to an old old version just to get it back, but this fixes all the issues.
Thanks again, Lew

What is PTT ?
Is Agile messenger a freeware ?

Does anyone know of any program or any way to activate your camera and stream video to a friend who is on MSN/Yahoo/AIM chatting with you?

gogol said:
What is PTT ?
Is Agile messenger a freeware ?
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PTT stands for 'Push To Talk' and yes, Agile Messenger is free.

No, it is not free
I checked here :
http://www.agilemobile.com/downloads.html
Agile Messenger has a free 7 day unlimited trial. After this you must register at http://www.agilemobile.com/pay/
Please send your feedback, comments and bug reports to [email protected]

Well... if you read further you wills see that the pocket PC version of Agile is in fact free. So feel "free" to use it.
Later, Lew

I hope you are correct I cant see it in their website that it is in fact free.

Sorry - just a mispost and I can't figure out how to delete it.

AIM 2.0

I have downloaded and Installed AIM 2.0. Is the messaging on it free? Like will I bet charged $.10 a message for a message on Cingular?

You're using either WLAN or GPRS for connecting to the AOL service, therefore standard GPRS charges may apply ...

based of of what he just said, then no. It just costs what it cost you to go on the internet regularly.

Well damn. I wanna use Agile, but I've already used all my 7-days trial on it and i dont wanna buy it :\

How about iMov? It is free ...

Junner2003 said:
How about iMov? It is free ...
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and advt. supported .
any other good alternatives ??

look around for aim 2.0, it really is the best im messenger out there, trust me

sobuze said:
and advt. supported .
any other good alternatives ??
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Really, I don't understand why a lot of users don't bother using the forjum serach engine. I've published a FULL rondup of ALL these utilities, answering ALL questions like this in the IM Bible ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295677 )
All in all: use the forum search engine!

weres a lin or something 4 aim 2.0...not the 1 from the aim site cuz it dont work

jawnsixteen said:
look around for aim 2.0, it really is the best im messenger out there, trust me
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You didn't even read my 1st post? Lol.

The bad site on AIM 2.0 ... it is AOL only and has too much other junk!
Also:
AIM 2.0 from the US site is commercial - if you download it from the UK site it will be free of charge!
I did love the AGILE MESSENGER but this overpriced stuff now ... - ... no thanks! That killed my interest! IM+ is not running properly: I can send in a chat but I can't receive anything, so, this one just does not look save to me! Running several IM clients on my WIZ is not really comfortable and needs lots more recources too. The ICQ messenger won't connect! Even though I entered user name and password correctly it keeps telling me that there is a USER NAME / PASSWORD missmatch, so, to hell with this one too ... )
In the mean time:
I am sitting and waiting until something as good as AGILE MOBILE MESSENGER will appear on the market for a lower reasonable price ... and I wish everybody would avoid that overpriced product!

Yes. I loved agile also. If I was as good at programming as I am with the knowledge of computers, I would make myself an IM client that would be based kinda like gtalk or something. No adds, or anything.
But anyway, I was checking Cingular for their Text Messaging plans, and I found unlimited everything, text/picture/video to anyone for $19.99 so I purchased that and I don't think AIM 2.0 will be a problem anymore ha

Hmmm,
19.99 a month? For that money you would have paid for the AGILE MESSENGER within 2 and a half months, LOL. <just kidding>

I need help with aim 2.0...I dled it...and installed it and at first it was working fine...then I soft reset...and now I fo 2 it...and it has my sn already there...so I go 2 buddy list...and online is gray and I can't get that tab up but...list set up is on and I can access that...so how do I get online?...I guess that's the problem...

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lol i was talking to the post behind me

personally, i like im+ better
p.m. me if u want a link to it

does aim 2.0 have an away ability?...were u can put a custom away? if so please let me kno

MSN/Live Messenger

My operator (Orange UK) has decided not to include live messenger in their ROM. Is that something I can install easily afterward? How would I go about doing this? Do I need to app unlock the phone first? I don't have much experience in installing apps on WM6 so any help appreciated.
Thanks

Hey, i work for Orange and have a touch dual also. Im pretty disapointed that the 'Windows Live' services are missing from the dual, but are present on the Touch.
I was referred by a colleague in the web support call centre that he downloaded the file from a link on this site. (Thats why im here) He found it in the TyTn II forum, but the file is compatible on any Mobile 6 platform... if i find it, i shall post the link for you (if its allowed)

hey, thanks for that. It is a bit of a shame how they removed it from this phone.
As you work for orange, do you know if they are planning to introduce any data tariffs like web n walk? I wouldn't mind paying a tenner extra a month if I could get 1GB of data anytime..

ln1234 said:
hey, thanks for that. It is a bit of a shame how they removed it from this phone.
As you work for orange, do you know if they are planning to introduce any data tariffs like web n walk? I wouldn't mind paying a tenner extra a month if I could get 1GB of data anytime..
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Hey! No worries.. im having problems wading through 178 tyTn II pages... the search feature is utterly useless.
Orange has something called 'Anytime internet' on PAYM. Its £8 per month, and inclused 30MB iirc. When it first launced (back in August) it was unlimited usage upto 1GB.
The Wireless Data Card for Laptops tariffs have just been updated to compete with 3's cheap plans, but i hope the new data plans for handsets happens soon.
Although, i get mine all free

I'm on the £8 a month tarriff, but to be honest 30MB doesn't really cut it compared to Tmobile and 3's tariffs.
Would you mind keeping us posted of when you think these tariffs might be upgraded for handsets? You're lucky you get all yours for free!
Now back to MSN Messenger - i've got a feeling we may not be able to install it even if we wanted to ask the phone might be 'app locked', and as far as I know no ones got a hack for that yet.. or I could be wrong..

I found the application on this forum, just tested it and it works on my Orange Touch Dual!

in1234, i will keep you posted.
Acidmax said:
I found the application on this forum, just tested it and it works on my Orange Touch Dual!
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thats great. can you post the link please as i cant find it on here.

jmepamplin said:
in1234, i will keep you posted.
thats great. can you post the link please as i cant find it on here.
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Right! Iv'e done it!
1. Follow this link HERE and download the Windows Live file to your PC.
2. Connect your device using Active Sync. And use the 'Explore' feature on AC and navigate to you 'My Documents' folder.
3. Disconnect the device and navigate to your documents.
4. Double tap the Windows Live install program. Install the program to your device and its done.
I also added a few other programs from the above link, inc the stand alone Messenger

Go with Fring ! And forget MSN !
www.fring.com voip, multiprotocol messenger and so on...
Regards,
Raid.

jmepamplin said:
Right! Iv'e done it!
1. Follow this link HERE and download the Windows Live file to your PC.
2. Connect your device using Active Sync. And use the 'Explore' feature on AC and navigate to you 'My Documents' folder.
3. Disconnect the device and navigate to your documents.
4. Double tap the Windows Live install program. Install the program to your device and its done.
I also added a few other programs from the above link, inc the stand alone Messenger
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tried doin this, trying to get msn messenger on mine. link didnt work! is it possable? bein trying to do it for hours!!!

also wanting messenger, anyone got a cab?