Is the memory erased if the battery drains completely? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Excuse me it might sound dumb, BUT I had a year ago a Qtex 2020i and they said that if the battery ran out completely I would have lost all the data , kinda like a hard reset. Is this still an issue on the Hermes? I guess not, but I have to be sure, as I wanna do some power cycles to optimize the battery life. And this implies draining it completely....
So, is it safe for my data? Or I would lose it , like on the 2020 i?
Thaks

No it won't erase the memory.
Do current batteries still need conditioning? I've never conditioned one...
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Yes I myself prefer to do that with all my new batteries (I used many many smartphones) so that I can achieve its maximum potential. At least it works for nokia batteries...

WinMo 5 has persistent storage so any device with it should be ok.
Do current batteries still need conditioning?
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I think I read somewhere that lithium ion batteries don't have any 'memory effect' and therefore don't need conditioning.
Could be wrong though...

if u read even the nokia manuals...u will KNOW that you are wrong.... I dont do that to avoid the memory effect, BUT to get the maximum performace from the batery.

vijay555 said:
Do current batteries still need conditioning? I've never conditioned one...
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Nope. See http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm :
"Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days. "

It is not about the charging time.......It is about the power cycles... I am not very clear I guess..... Believe me , I am right..)

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How turn off phone

Hi , i have a problem with my mda compact , the phone don't turn off.
Please can some one tell me how resolving this problem
Thanks, Macxi
Turn on flight mode.
Look in the manual.
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Turn on flight mode.
Look in the manual.
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Thank you i don't have manual
macxi said:
Thank you i don't have manual
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Turn it on flight mode.
Click on the telephone signal bars.
Googling helps:
https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/mdacompact_bda_e.pdf
Have fun with your ENGLISH! manual.
macxi said:
Hi , i have a problem with my mda compact , the phone don't turn off.
Please can some one tell me how resolving this problem
Thanks, Macxi
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That sounds very serious. You mean, if you press and hold the phone power button for like 5-10 seconds, it will not shut off the phone??
A PPC can't be shutdown :!: You can turn off the phone function, the PDA will go in stan-by mode. Reminders etc. remember?
M
Remove the battery and put it back in to totally shut it off (apart from power for the memory). :wink:
Timewarp said:
Remove the battery and put it back in to totally shut it off (apart from power for the memory). :wink:
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Not advised - the NiCad backup battery will go down completely, which shortens the life of the battery.
Stevedebi you got a NiCad backup? I've got a NiMH.
Anyway just as long as you put the main battery back in, the back-up battery won't suffer too much. The thing I cannot understand is why shutting down a PDA completely? My magician eats 3% battery-life in about 8 hours on stand-by. & I don't have the risk off losing data by fumbling with batteries. It's a small PDA, not a cell-phone.
Cheers, M
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Timewarp said:
Remove the battery and put it back in to totally shut it off (apart from power for the memory). :wink:
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Not advised - the NiCad backup battery will go down completely, which shortens the life of the battery.
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I said put it back in so that the memory wouldn't go.
oltp said:
Stevedebi you got a NiCad backup? I've got a NiMH.
Anyway just as long as you put the main battery back in, the back-up battery won't suffer too much. The thing I cannot understand is why shutting down a PDA completely? My magician eats 3% battery-life in about 8 hours on stand-by. & I don't have the risk off losing data by fumbling with batteries. It's a small PDA, not a cell-phone.
Cheers, M
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ARGH! I can't believe I slipped up on that one, yes, it is HiMh. But the principal is the same. Those batteries are not meant to be fully discharged too many times.
Timewarp said:
stevedebi said:
Timewarp said:
Remove the battery and put it back in to totally shut it off (apart from power for the memory). :wink:
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Not advised - the NiCad backup battery will go down completely, which shortens the life of the battery.
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I said put it back in so that the memory wouldn't go.
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Sorry, I missed that. However, would the device do a hard reset after this? I would think that either the device would resume working, or it would hard reset. Might be worth a try - set an alarm and see what happens after a main battery removal event.
stevedebi said:
ARGH! I can't believe I slipped up on that one, yes, it is HiMh. But the principal is the same. Those batteries are not meant to be fully discharged too many times.
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Not true, particularly in the case of NiCD. NiCD batteries develop a charge 'memory' if you DON'T fully discharge them before recharging, decreasing the total charge they will hold.
NiMH batteries supposedly overcome this problem by not using cadiumm however in my experience they still can be affected to a small degree if they are cheaper lower quality NiMH batteries. NiMH hold a better charge anyway, the average AAA size NiMH is 6-700 mA/hours where as the average NiCD AAA is only 300 mA/hours.
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Not true, particularly in the case of NiCD. NiCD batteries develop a charge 'memory' if you DON'T fully discharge them before recharging, decreasing the total charge they will hold.
NiMH batteries supposedly overcome this problem by not using cadiumm however in my experience they still can be affected to a small degree if they are cheaper lower quality NiMH batteries. NiMH hold a better charge anyway, the average AAA size NiMH is 6-700 mA/hours where as the average NiCD AAA is only 300 mA/hours.
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I think that in the case of both battery types, charge memory is a bit of a myth. What happens is that the battery voltage suffers a little causing the device to think that the battery is losing charge very quickly, wheras it is really losing voltage slightly.

8 hours charge before use?

hi, i'm new to the boards. anyway, tried a search but was not successful. i am getting a cingular 8125 on monday and was wondering why they want you to charge the phone for 8 hours before putting the sim in? is it to optimize battery life? or will i be ok just getting started, i don't want to wait 8 hours. thanks!
i didnt wait 8 hours :S i put the sim in and turned it on
333 said:
hi, i'm new to the boards. anyway, tried a search but was not successful. i am getting a cingular 8125 on monday and was wondering why they want you to charge the phone for 8 hours before putting the sim in? is it to optimize battery life? or will i be ok just getting started, i don't want to wait 8 hours. thanks!
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Phones use different chemical technologies, and some are prone to a memory effect or benefit from an initial "conditioning". It's easier for the Cinglar folks to tell you to charge it fully before any use rather than keep track of what kind of battery is in each device.
The Lithium Ion battery in your 8125 isn't susceptible to memory, nor does it need conditioning. Just start using it. What lithium ion batteries DON'T like though is becoming fully discharged...never let it run completely dead...it's hard to revive and can shorten its life.
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333 said:
hi, i'm new to the boards. anyway, tried a search but was not successful. i am getting a cingular 8125 on monday and was wondering why they want you to charge the phone for 8 hours before putting the sim in? is it to optimize battery life? or will i be ok just getting started, i don't want to wait 8 hours. thanks!
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Phones use different chemical technologies, and some are prone to a memory effect or benefit from an initial "conditioning". It's easier for the Cinglar folks to tell you to charge it fully before any use rather than keep track of what kind of battery is in each device.
The Lithium Ion battery in your 8125 isn't susceptible to memory, nor does it need conditioning. Just start using it. What lithium ion batteries DON'T like though is becoming fully discharged...never let it run completely dead...it's hard to revive and can shorten its life.
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thanks for the informative reply!
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333 said:
What lithium ion batteries DON'T like though is becoming fully discharged...never let it run completely dead...it's hard to revive and can shorten its life.
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I found this out the hard way, I thought my 8125 died because after being on a charger for an hour it didn't show any charge and the charging light didn't come on. It finally started to charge and now I am very careful to charge fully every night.
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Does the Prophet have an internal Battery???

Hey, my time and date changes back everytime i take out the Battery. Now i wonder if there is aproblem with the internal Battery and if there is any and how I can replace it? I already Formatted the Firmware again, did not help always changes back to some 2006 date 12:00.
What is happening there?
could it be that the OVerclocking did that to my internal Battery?
I run the BatteryStatus Plugin on 260 MHZ
Thanks
The prophet has no internal battery as far as I know... Being a WM5 device there's no chance of data loss if the main battery drain out so no need for the internal battery to keep data safe on the device as it was for the WM2003 devices... Think this is the correct explanation on why it doesn't have one...
Then why does my Time reset everytime i take the battery out. Is that a hardware problem?? whats the deal???
I told you... it doesn't have an internal battery...
Allright man, dont get pissed I just want to Know why my time is being reset everytime i take out the battery, should i send it in??
please answer
WM5 devices DO have a internal battery. It is not as big as massive as those in WM2003's version where it needs to keey the memory runnning to keep the data. The one in WM5 devices are probably all tablet little battery. AFAI can remember, there are cases of Wizard forgetting the time/date too and an investigation has been launched to search for the internal battery.
UPDATE: Read this for Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279384&highlight=internal+battery+wizard
it has an internall backup (small) battery, although it is actually a capacitor that acts as a batter. I presume the Prophet has one too. BTW, as the thread mentioned, you can get this problem fixed if you were to charge your phone directly (rather than charging the battery). Read the thread for more info.
c3l5o said:
I told you... it doesn't have an internal battery...
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YES IT DOES HAVE AN INTERNAL BATTERY.
The Prophet (and all WM5 PPC) does have an internal battery (very small but not a capacitor) for not forgetting the time/date when you take out the main battery.
exxi, your Prophet's internal battery is probably dead.
I have the same problem.
Could be the result of a too high o/c attempt, or the vodka that went into my phone.... who knows ?
I'll send it back on warranty soon, I hope I'll get a working backup battery afterwards ^^
thanks for the responses guys, I really appreciate it, i have the feeling that the o/c did this to my internal battery, I hope nothing else is damaged. I am going to send it in soon, lets see what happens.
Thanks guys!!
Since a lot of users are having that trouble, there's much chances our devices have faulty batteries. For (main) battery switching, if you're fast enough, you can switch them in about 2s, and won't lost date & time. If you're not, well, practice
exxi said:
thanks for the responses guys, I really appreciate it, i have the feeling that the o/c did this to my internal battery, I hope nothing else is damaged. I am going to send it in soon, lets see what happens.
Thanks guys!!
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O/C does nothing to your internal battery My first prophet of the first stock was o/c ed from the first time omap clock was "discovered" and is still flawless
victoradjei said:
O/C does nothing to your internal battery My first prophet of the first stock was o/c ed from the first time omap clock was "discovered" and is still flawless
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I'd guessed that not many will discover this 'flaw' unless they swap battery/sim frequently .. as like me, I'm not sure if I have the problem or not.
shayd said:
YES IT DOES HAVE AN INTERNAL BATTERY.
The Prophet (and all WM5 PPC) does have an internal battery (very small but not a capacitor) for not forgetting the time/date when you take out the main battery.
exxi, your Prophet's internal battery is probably dead.
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If you like capital letters, YES IT IS A CAPACITOR (well, at least I'm sure for the Wizard and unlikely HTC will be using different technology on different devices). Attached the screen shot of the service manual of the Wizard. Note the picture and the word "Golden cap replacement", which actually called 'Gold capacitor', is a capacitor, which acts like battery. Read this for more info.
http://www.ttiinc.com/object/FP_pan_goldcap.html
Electric Double Layered Capacitors, known as “Gold Capacitors”, offer the highest volumetric efficiency of all capacitor technologies. It is often compared to a secondary battery. Unlike batteries, the Gold Capacitor does not rely on a chemical reaction to produce electric current rather it is a storage cell that utilizes the absorption/release reaction of ions.
Gold Capacitor has no limit to the number of charge and discharge cycles it can sustain, and does not need a charging circuit. Repeated rapid charge and discharge cycles are also acceptable.
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Also note that, it said it needs to be soldered to have it removed. You don't usually solder in a battery, the heat from the soldering will probably damage the battery of that size.
Anyway, having said that, capacitor can be damaged anyway. My Citizen Eco-Drive watch, which uses a cap to store energy, went to the 'hospital' for a change of a faulty capacitor that won't store charges for more than a day (which specification said it will store up to 3 months).
victoradjei said:
O/C does nothing to your internal battery My first prophet of the first stock was o/c ed from the first time omap clock was "discovered" and is still flawless
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You may be right, but you can't tell that's not the o/c fault just because it didn't happen on your device, that's not logic at all.
Hello hanmin,
c3l5o said:
I told you... it doesn't have an internal battery...
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that is why I used capital letters.
hanmin said:
If you like capital letters, YES IT IS A CAPACITOR (well, at least I'm sure for the Wizard and unlikely HTC will be using different technology on different devices). Attached the screen shot of the service manual of the Wizard. Note the picture and the word "Golden cap replacement", which actually called 'Gold capacitor', is a capacitor, which acts like battery. Read this for more info.
http://www.ttiinc.com/object/FP_pan_goldcap.html
Also note that, it said it needs to be soldered to have it removed. You don't usually solder in a battery, the heat from the soldering will probably damage the battery of that size.
Anyway, having said that, capacitor can be damaged anyway. My Citizen Eco-Drive watch, which uses a cap to store energy, went to the 'hospital' for a change of a faulty capacitor that won't store charges for more than a day (which specification said it will store up to 3 months).
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I am probably wrong abut it an actual bateery, as you said it is a capacitor', but that is not the issue.
the issue is all WM5 devices (not only Prophet and wizard that by the way have exactly the same internal battery / CAP) does have some kind of an internal battery , that keep the date and time for a few minutes, when the main battery is taken out.

Swapping battery

Hi.
I recently purchased a new battery since the old one is kind of broken.
However it didn't really increase battery life at all. In fact it now shuts down at 35%.
How do I make sure it actually makes use of the whole new battery?
kaboem said:
Hi.
I recently purchased a new battery since the old one is kind of broken.
However it didn't really increase battery life at all. In fact it now shuts down at 35%.
How do I make sure it actually makes use of the whole new battery?
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Is the battery from Samsung?
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fodustin have
Yes it is.
You must calibrate the battery.
To do it you must be rooted.
Advanced method;
Use a root explorer and go to /data/system. Delete "batterystats.bin" file . Then drain all the battery and charge it while phone is off and unplug the cable whem it says full.. Thats all.
Also there is much easier way to do it if you want. Download battery calibrater app from google play and use it! BUT in any of these methods,you must be rooted.
After doing this it must be normal.Also flashing stock rom and non rooted musn't be problem
Cheers
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dreamer94 said:
You must calibrate the battery.
To do it you must be rooted.
Advanced method;
Use a root explorer and go to /data/system. Delete "batterystats.bin" file . Then drain all the battery and charge it while phone is off and unplug the cable whem it says full.. Thats all.
Also there is much easier way to do it if you want. Download battery calibrater app from google play and use it! BUT in any of these methods,you must be rooted.
After doing this it must be normal.Also flashing stock rom and non rooted musn't be problem
Cheers
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This is not true.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
This misconception must stop being spread.
Though you're right about the charging bit, op should discharge until it's completely dead, then fully charge it and let it run out, repeat the process.
Sent from horseback.
adytum said:
This is not true.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
This misconception must stop being spread.
Though you're right about the charging bit, op should discharge until it's completely dead, then fully charge it and let it run out, repeat the process.
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adytum is right. The phone doesn't need to be rooted. Rooted you can destroy the phones battery statistic file at once but you don't need to. Android permanently learns about your battery (high / low voltage) when charging and discharging.
Have some patience, give your new battery some full charges / discharges and everything should be OK.
I'm going to start working on this then.
Thanks alot !
I was already afraid my whole SGS was broken.
edit: But doesn't draining the battery completely lower its lifetime?
kaboem said:
I'm going to start working on this then.
edit: But doesn't draining the battery completely lower its lifetime?
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Difficult question - doing big researches will lead to different answers.
The only thing for sure is that completely drained or somehow even completely full batteries will age faster because of electrochemical reactions. Completely drained is worst case, of course.
A common recommendation of the industrie is to store an unused battery charged at about 60-70% and then put it away in some cold storage. That is because even LiIo-batteries suffer self-discharge of about 5-10% per month so it could avoid both stressfull states (0% / 100%) for a long time.
Your phone will never physically drain the battery completely, but will shut down itself before damage is done (don't know if this limit/border could be tweaked, but with StockROMs you should be save). Although it might say 0% there is still some energy left. So it wouldn't hurt to "drain your battery completely" down to 0% a few time if you don't forget to charge it afterwards.
As Android stores the min and max voltage of your battery your really should do complete cycles if you want Android to get your battery statistics right. You even have to do this if you killed Androids battery file on a rooted phone.
Much more damage will be done by keeping the battery at high temperatures, e.g. playing heavy games
I've been doing what has been suggested, however my phone keeps turning off between 30-40%.
Is there any way to solve this?
I'm running Cyanogen ; 10-20121025-nightly-galaxysmtd
kaboem said:
Hi.
I recently purchased a new battery since the old one is kind of broken.
However it didn't really increase battery life at all. In fact it now shuts down at 35%.
How do I make sure it actually makes use of the whole new battery?
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well u have purchased a junk battery (its rare but sometimes happens, give it back and get ur money back)
i myself use a powercell 1800mAh battery and it pretty much doubled my phones battery life (u could try it)
kaboem said:
I've been doing what has been suggested, however my phone keeps turning off between 30-40%.
Is there any way to solve this?
I'm running Cyanogen ; 10-20121025-nightly-galaxysmtd
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If you already have a rooted phone and no patience (no experience myself on this matter with ICS or JB), then you could use app "BatteryCalibration" to remove batterystats.bin file as was said in one of the initial postings.
if u use cm10 you can also enter cwm and whipe battery stats, i think under advanced
adytum said:
This is not true.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
This misconception must stop being spread.
Though you're right about the charging bit, op should discharge until it's completely dead, then fully charge it and let it run out, repeat the process.
Sent from horseback.
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Seriously guys...
Sent from horseback.

How to change your battery capacity

(Must be rooted)
Use Root Explorer or Equivalent.
(Can adb or command pull/ push with line if your know how inside twrp or on pc)
DIRECTORY: /etc/floating_feature.xml
Open it and Scroll or search until you see the capacity String value ...
Change it to the MAH of your desired battery.
Disclaimer: Any edits being made to batteries, charge speeds, % values, etc , can cause fires,
Do these at your own risk.
What is the purpose of this?
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Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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I agree
Rapier said:
Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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There are reference files in the kernel ...
They reference battery capacity...
They are based off of a capacity % value
Basically an of/if command ... so in theory...
(Update: the theory was correct)
And a framework.res edit did suffice.
The file inside of framework-res res/xml/power_profile.xml
referenced a 3600mah battery ...
And the purpose of this is of course...
an aftermarket , fully synced , and properly programmed battery @ larger capacity 4200mah
To track all stats natively in any android rom
I use my device pretty heavy with it....
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
battery life report...
Yamaha169 said:
I use my device pretty heavy with this 4200 mah...
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
But heres a battery life report...
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omg how the hell did you manage to change for a bigger battery? can you explain? how and which one you bought? any links?
Vivacity said:
how and which one you bought?
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-Capacity-Gold-Replacement-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-NEW-/322221470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?
Trust
anaya1213 said:
But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?
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This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?
Yamaha169 said:
This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?
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Fair enough, but how do you really know it's 4200mah instead of the regular 3600mah?
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed
Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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Any battery lithium... copper core... can overheat and cause what happened to the 7 line...
And this device claims to be water "resistant" ... but people were testing new units and ruining cameras... so...
I went with a ghostek atomic 2.0 case ...
Agreed... no matter how good you cut the adhesive
ingram10 said:
I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed
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They do make the adheasive with backglass replacement... but im content with my device ...
Longer batter... no overheating issues (2nd phone using them)
After doing the edits and the battery swap with the battery sync... big gains..
I Would Do this Experiment Again
Update...
Batterylife update...
Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking the written numbers on it
twinko said:
Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking their values.
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you can break out ohms law and calculate power
( find something that runs off the same voltage , and run the tests yourself for discharge rate @ hours )
Yamaha169 said:
Well, to me... thats arguing a moot point...
Thats like asking me how i know im getting a gallon of gas at the pump.
But... the evidence is in the calculation of the user ... because there are FAR too many variables ...
There are applications that track power loss by MAH (mili-amp hour) if you use over the stock MAH rating... it would have a larger storage capacity.
Or you can break out ohms law and calculate power , disect this battery and beat your head against a post ..
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im sorry my english isn't that good but i think the capacity of this battery is not related to the user nor there are many variables.
Probably i didnt used the right words but what i was asking for is for example:
Connect the battery to a constant current load and measure the time it takes to discharge the battery to a certain voltage.
Capacity in Ah = Current in Amperes * Time in hours​
that would give a good overview of the real capacity without using a fishy app or harassing a post
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Yamaha169 said:
If it comes down to having to buy another one... then yea.. ill run that test ..
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sounds great and lets see how long your battery needs to be replaced. really interested to do the same.

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