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I am buying an unlocked softbank X01HT on june 21st.
My question: Is there a hardware difference between these 2?
I am assuming it's just branding difference but essentialy the same unit?
BTW this forum rocks, it had a major influence in my decision to purchase a smartphone. I am hooked!
I would say VERIFY the device is truely unlocked before buying it, the softbank is notorious for being difficult to unlock. If I was to be recommending between the two...go for the TyTN since it is fully unlockable really easily.
The two devices are identical but softbank has loaded a different bootloader onto the ext_rom...if it is turned on and allowed to configure itself then you are stuck with an unlockable device (that we know of).
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Thanks for your prompt reply.
The guy I am buying from garantees it's unlocked to work on any GSM provider. I plan to use it on FIDO, I am in montreal, canada.
I want to put a WM6 rom on it as soon as I get it.
BTW yourwebsite rocks too, I like the tutorials for flashing ROMs, very cool.
I forgot:
For some reason, any HTC TYTN I have found so far are far more expensive than the softbank, that's why I was wondering if there was a hardware difference. Thanks for answering that question.
Now I am puzzled because if I am stuck with the softbank ROM, it's not exactly the best out there from what I hear.
Obviously you got a ISP unlocked phone.
Thats what the guy promised.
What you didnt get is the CID unlocked and X01HT is not easily unlocked if it is turned on and allowed to configure itself. May be the guy whom you bought did that.....and we will never know until you get the phone.
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For some reason, any HTC TYTN I have found so far are far more expensive than the softbank, that's why I was wondering if there was a hardware difference. Thanks for answering that question.
Now I am puzzled because if I am stuck with the softbank ROM, it's not exactly the best out there from what I hear.
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CID unlocked
Well, I haven't bought it yet, I was planning to pick it up in Toronto in june 21st but this CID business might change all that!
I'll find out before I get it. Thanks for the heads up SL.
olivierdamiron said:
For some reason, any HTC TYTN I have found so far are far more expensive than the softbank, that's why I was wondering if there was a hardware difference. Thanks for answering that question.
Now I am puzzled because if I am stuck with the softbank ROM, it's not exactly the best out there from what I hear.
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Because the TyTN is fully unbranded by any carrier (Its a HTC branded one) and also comes as standard SIM unlocked, which the rest dont from the carriers.
ALL of them are CID locked its just the softbank is VERY difficult to CID unlock...infact the only way to CID unlock one at the moment is to NEVER turn the device on then read through the thread on it first. It is very unlikely that this guy has CID unlocked it.
But Its not a problem really since once HardSPL is on the device it reports it as SuperCID anyway
I have HTC Softbank X01HT. GSM unlocked, works fine.
I have some other issues on that (overwritten MAC address, 3G problems) which i'm working on to fix, but otherwise works fine with me.
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Thanks for your input pop20032004, I just emailed the store I plan to get it from to see if it's CID locked or not, awaiting their response.
They have even offered to ship it with WM6 pre-installed but I prefer to tweak it myself so I get the apps that I want and not the original WM garbage apps.
What ROM are you using?
Oops
Disregard my question about the ROM !
CID business...
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Because the TyTN is fully unbranded by any carrier (Its a HTC branded one) and also comes as standard SIM unlocked, which the rest dont from the carriers.
ALL of them are CID locked its just the softbank is VERY difficult to CID unlock...infact the only way to CID unlock one at the moment is to NEVER turn the device on then read through the thread on it first. It is very unlikely that this guy has CID unlocked it.
But Its not a problem really since once HardSPL is on the device it reports it as SuperCID anyway
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Thanks for the advice, I will make sure to resist the temptation of powering it up when I get it. One last thing, which thread are you refering to?
Or what should I search for?
Cheers
Hi olivierdamiron, No problem... I tried WM Black, wm6 premium, and other one (i dont remember now). I liked the stability of wm6.premium.v2 with X01HT. I also did Radio upgrade & bootloader upgrade to 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7). I'm really enjoying this device...
CID question
Well, just got a response from the rep, he quotes:
"Yes, it is CID unlocked. We have WM6 and can load it for you at no charge if you prefer. Just request it in the special instructions section during checkout."
So that's it then, thanks ALL for the advice.
I'm looking for the same phone you are buying. Could you post the link to the company you are getting yours from? Is there a warranty on the unit you are getting? Thanks in advance for your help
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I found it on Ebay, the guy says he has a store too. I am now waiting on warranty information and also further confirmation that it truly is CID unlocked
I will post the info as soon as I have it, still debating if I should go for it at this point with all the horror stories I hear about CID unlocking the X01HT.
The seller claims it's a Softbank X01HT with the TYTN ROM in it, this automaticaly makes it a bit fishy. It means it was modified at some point, certainly not by Softbank, they are notorious for their simlock feature if you go through the forums, and it also means it was repackaged. If they just unlock them and repackage them right away, I suppose it's fine.
Anyway, I will post more info as soon as I hear back from the seller.
olivierdamiron said:
I found it on Ebay, the guy says he has a store too. I am now waiting on warranty information and also further confirmation that it truly is CID unlocked
I will post the info as soon as I have it, still debating if I should go for it at this point with all the horror stories I hear about CID unlocking the X01HT.
The seller claims it's a Softbank X01HT with the TYTN ROM in it, this automaticaly makes it a bit fishy. It means it was modified at some point, certainly not by Softbank, they are notorious for their simlock feature if you go through the forums, and it also means it was repackaged. If they just unlock them and repackage them right away, I suppose it's fine.
Anyway, I will post more info as soon as I hear back from the seller.
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Check out this guy here on eBay. He gives a two year warranty and used a supercid program that he says works the same as if the cid was unlocked. He doesn't care what rom you run, so that won't void the warranty. Price is the only issue. He's about $500US for an X01HT shipped within the US.
See if this works for ya ...
X01HT with TYTN ROM
Yes, a bit pricy but might be worth looking at.
I imagine these guys buy them bulk in ASIA, they are softbank then he flashes them and repackages them. At 400 bucks I would go for it but 500 US is a bit steep.
These type keep poping up on Ebay all the time, I am sure a better deal will come up soon, I check everyday.
Thanks for the link.
Cheers
On order, Softbank X01HT Black w/WM6
Well I have made the jump and sent my payment for a Softbank X01HT Black with WM6 preloaded.
I picked it up from here : http://www.networkingrus.com/SoftBank_Phones-SoftBank_X01HT_Pocket_PC_Phone_Unlocked.html
According to networkingrus, it is fully CID unlocked.
I will keep you guys posted as soon as my phone arrives to share this experience.
He also has other HTC phones like the new Touch and stuff, very cool online shop.
they are going like hot cakes!
In10se: In the end, your Ebay link was the best deal out there for sure. There are cheaper ones but the sellers don't look too reliable.
This guy has an excellent EBay rating and I see you ordered one there too!
Cool stuff. Share your experience here, I will be posting details here as well.
Cheers
Hi guys,
I have a question. I just won a Nexus One on ebay and the guy that sells it tells me it's SIM locked to T-Mobile. Is there such a version ? And if so, how easy is it to unlock it myself ?
Waiting for your answers, thanks in advance!!!
Nope. All N1's are sim unlocked.
Even when bought with a T-Mobile program ? Sorry for asking again but this guy insists that it's locked. And I also found some site that offer unlock services for the Nexus One, so I reaaaaaally want to make sure before buying one as I won't be able to return it if there is a problem as I live in Greece
johnny21a said:
Even when bought with a T-Mobile program ? Sorry for asking again but this guy insists that it's locked. And I also found some site that offer unlock services for the Nexus One, so I reaaaaaally want to make sure before buying one as I won't be able to return it if there is a problem as I live in Greece
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My understanding is that no N1's are sim locked. Google said the same when the phone was released. Worst case scenario is that you'll have to drop $10-15 to get an unlock code online, but I'm pretty sure it's unlocked.
Anyone else care to comment?
All Nexus Ones come unlocked. There is no locked version of the Nexus One - it would defeat one of the imperial concepts Google is shipping with the phone.
if that is the case so why people is buying unlocked N1s
it's much cheaper to buy T-Mobile version and then put any sim inside
am i right or i am missing something????
obadvw said:
if that is the case so why people is buying unlocked N1s
it's much cheaper to buy T-Mobile version and then put any sim inside
am i right or i am missing something????
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The T-Mobile version requires a 2 year contract which over its lifespan will cost more than buying the unsubsidized version upfront.
And to the OP, Google has said that all N1 phones are unlocked whether its subsidized or not - one of the advantages of selling the phone themselves.
Even if your phone 'is' Sim locked, which it's probably not, after 90 days of service with T-Mobile, you can call them, ask for an unlock code, and they will send you one via email, for free. Don't pay money to some idiot on eBay when you can do this yourself at zero cost, especially since you likely won't have to do it at all.
Also, stop pressuring the seller about whether or not it's really locked or not. Maybe he'll look into it, find out it's really unlocked after all, and jack up the price!
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Even if your phone 'is' Sim locked, which it's probably not, after 90 days of service with T-Mobile, you can call them, ask for an unlock code, and they will send you one via email, for free. Don't pay money to some idiot on eBay when you can do this yourself at zero cost, especially since you likely won't have to do it at all.
Also, stop pressuring the seller about whether or not it's really locked or not. Maybe he'll look into it, find out it's really unlocked after all, and jack up the price!
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The OP is from Greece.
uansari1 said:
The OP is from Greece.
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oops
I suppose he could try asking the seller to call T-Mobile and get the unlock code.
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oops
I suppose he could try asking the seller to call T-Mobile and get the unlock code.
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It would be an option if the phone was locked... but it's not. I don't know of any way that a normal consumer can lock a sim unlocked phone.
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It would be an option if the phone was locked... but it's not. I don't know of any way that a normal consumer can lock a sim unlocked phone.
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I know it's not locked, but he's paranoid it could be. It was just a suggestion to ease his fears
I know for a fact that some nexus ones are locked
I know this is an old thread, but it's what i found try to figure out why i my phone didn't work with a tmobile sim while on a business trip. I Purchased my nexus one from KT olleh in Korea in march '11. I call KT and they connected me to HTC in Korea. HTC gave me the unlock code for free over the phone. I just wanted to share so that other people with locked N1s don't think they going insane. The FAQ should probably be updated.
FAQ Updated:
- Q13: Is Nexus One carrier-locked? Will it work with my carrier / network?
A: There should be no such thing as carrier-locked N1. All the rumors of carrier-locked N1s, including bits of misinformation from SFR/Vodafone, are untrue. There might be several weird cases, only one reported on the forum after 1 year of phone existence, in which the previous statements won't hold - but if truly existent, these are abnormalities.
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hi there im a bit of a novice when it comes to flashing and unlocking etc.
i wouldnt know where to start and obviously im affraid i'd do something wrong and turn it into a brick.
i have a tg01 locked to orange and i was wondering if any1 could point me in the right direction to unlocking it?
kind regards
paul
by buying an imei unlock code off ebay
the vitamise guy is highly recommended and cheapest around
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536934&page=4
souljaboy said:
the vitamise guy is highly recommended and cheapest around
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536934&page=4
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Fully agree on this: serious & very responsive guy.
+1 on vitamise guy
no complaints
adzman808 said:
+1 on vitamise guy
no complaints
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+1 on Vitamise - used twice and both times perfect.
use vitamise....
briliant service and price
firemids said:
hi there im a bit of a novice when it comes to flashing and unlocking etc.
i wouldnt know where to start and obviously im affraid i'd do something wrong and turn it into a brick.
i have a tg01 locked to orange and i was wondering if any1 could point me in the right direction to unlocking it?
kind regards
paul
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You can ask Orange to unlock it for you after three months. There is a one off charge of £20.
people who have got a replacement phone from orange can get £20 credit if your previous phone was unlocked. all you have to do is ASK. once you have your replacement phone, you can contact orange and get unlock code. i dont think you will have to wait for 3 months as its their fault of providing a locked phone inplace of your unlocked phone!
vitamise
vitamise is the best choice... around 12 euro.
he is the fastest & chepest ...
vitamise rules
£30....from a local shop while I wait.....I said I could get for £23 on the net but he said I need a "super code"
My god.....45 views and no one knows!
Stu1973 said:
My god.....45 views and no one knows!
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Sounds pretty average, but may i ask... whats the point? if you install a custom rom and radio it will be unlocked anyway.
someone may be able to confirm this, but I was always under the assumption that the sim locks were only part of the os, a custom rom ignores that completely
I got mine for $30 USD at FreeYourHTC.
Hope that helps.
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My god.....45 views and no one knows!
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ZeeGy said:
Sounds pretty average, but may i ask... whats the point? if you install a custom rom and radio it will be unlocked anyway.
someone may be able to confirm this, but I was always under the assumption that the sim locks were only part of the os, a custom rom ignores that completely
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I don't think it's so, i never had a locked phone but as far as i know the lock system is not managed by the OS
ZeeGy said:
Sounds pretty average, but may i ask... whats the point? if you install a custom rom and radio it will be unlocked anyway.
someone may be able to confirm this, but I was always under the assumption that the sim locks were only part of the os, a custom rom ignores that completely
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What the OP is referring to is a SIM unlock. Accustomed ROM does not SIM unlock a phone. You have to get a code to SIM unlock a phone, these codes are very much device spacific. The unlock you are thinking about is just the HSPL that you have to flash to be able to install custom ROMs. The HSPL does not allow a CID check is why you have to have it to flash a custom ROM. Click on the link in my sig to learn more.
At the OP go on eBay and you can find plenty of sellers to by a code from for like anywhere from $12 USD to $20 USD. Hope this helps you out.
Also all phones just about are SIM locked to theircbranded carrier.
Stu1973 said:
£30....from a local shop while I wait.....I said I could get for £23 on the net but he said I need a "super code"
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I've seen it cheaper at local shops!!around £10
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The comment about super code is almost certainly sales talk, BUT there is plenty of evidence that later released phones don't show up on the standard lists, and indeed a few posts have made reference to the unlocker needing the updated list from HTC.
30 is pretty steep, if time isn't an issue give the eBay guys a go, they will usually give you a can/can't pretty quickly.
i found some on ebay for $6CAN.
$30 is WAY too much.
Btw, there are 2 HTC unlock codes/methods the providers use to my understanding. There is an international unlock which I've seen for $20. The other I've seen is a USA only T-Mobile one which is the one I've seen for around $25-$30.
The T-Mobile phones apparently use some new(er) security method which is different than international models. So, not all unlock codes will work was my understanding. I didn't want to **** around. I just wanted to get the thing unlocked.
I based my choice on 2 things. Positive feedback from others who had used this site and my willingness to spend $5-$10 more to make sure what I got will work without issues.
Penny wise, pound foolish as it's said.
froibet said:
i found some on ebay for $6CAN.
$30 is WAY too much.
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Hey guys, im looking to bay a Samsung Focus that is locked in at&t but i am thinking to unlock i mean to by the unlock code or somthing similar! so if i unlock it, will i have any problems to use it here i Europe/Norway ?
Sorry if i opend the thred, but i could not finde a clear answer!
thank u
suua said:
Hey guys, im looking to bay a Samsung Focus that is locked in at&t but i am thinking to unlock i mean to by the unlock code or somthing similar! so if i unlock it, will i have any problems to use it here i Europe/Norway ?
Sorry if i opend the thred, but i could not finde a clear answer!
thank u
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Hi, I'm currently using a Focus across Europe, successfully.
Mine was bought in US and initially SIM locked to AT&T. Paid for unlock and now is SIM unlocked (flashing, restoring, downgrading, upgrading etc. firmware doesn't affect SIM lock).
So yes, you can buy it, unlock it (fastgsm or ebay) and use with no issues across the world, actually, not only Europe.
EnderPsp said:
Hi, I'm currently using a Focus across Europe, successfully.
Mine was bought in US and initially SIM locked to AT&T. Paid for unlock and now is SIM unlocked (flashing, restoring, downgrading, upgrading etc. firmware doesn't affect SIM lock).
So yes, you can buy it, unlock it (fastgsm or ebay) and use with no issues across the world, actually, not only Europe.
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thanks for the replay and for the answer buddy =)
Yes, I got it from eBay.
However, I specifically chose one which buyer said specifically it works for any carrier in the world ("world-wide phone").
It's working beautifully, I am very pleased about it.
Some tip about buying from eBay, in case you aren't used to it(like I was):
Make sure you read carefully the buyer description.
For example, being in hurry, while I did make sure about other things, I didn't notice that it didn't include a micro-USB data cable. It's my fault, the buyer actually didn't mention about it.
Also, the charger was not the original one(Samsung Traveler). The buyer just mentioned 'charger'.
These are really not important at all as I got an original micro-USB for like 10$.
I was more interested about phone being in good shape and that it works in my country.
But since you have to choose it might help you.
Good luck!