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I signed up for the T-Mobile USA internet (GPRS) few days ago.
I could establish the connection using my Universal.
I could browse most web sites, and could download emails from my company exchange server and Hotmail.
Only one strange thing, i could never download emails from Gmail. It will go to the login process, and when it reaches the Sending and Receiving... it will go forever.
I also noticed that I could not browse any google.com web sites including www.google.com, mail.google.com, news.google.com etc..
I tried to get T-Mboile technical support help but it has been useless and helpless. Somebody told me that it might be something to do with the MTU size that the T-Mobile network can pass along today.
If I swicth over the connection to Wifi or dial up via GSM, I can reach everything including Gmail and Google web sites just fine, from the same device (Universal).
Any one, that uses T-Mobile USA GPRS as well, can you please help?
Thanks.
hey I have t-mobile usa also but with the PDA2K (BlueAngel) when I was running WM5.0 and now back to 2003se I had no problems connecting to google.com/pda but I do know that their is a registry hack to make it go to the default google.com but I wouldn't advise it, becuase it interfeirs with other web sites.
Also T-Mobile has 2 data plans WAP and Total Internet the wap is limited to wap sites and such but the other is open to all sites, check your settings to make sure you are connecting to GPRS and not WAP.....
The difference is like 20 or 30 a month though
WAP 19.99 or 9.99
GPRS 29.99 and up for MyMail or VPN MyMail
I have the full GPRS (the new name: Total Internet for $30). Now its bundled with the hotspot and they are not longer offering the $20 for GPRS only.
Can you tell me what access point you set in your device? Mine is set to wap.voicestream.com and use no proxy. i noticed some ppl posted before that they proxy instead.
Thanks.
your connection is incorrect if you notice it is set to wap. even though you have the total internet that is only connecting you to the wap
your access point should be
internet2.voicestream.com or
internet3.voicestream.com
I used 3 on WM5 and it was fine I also use 3 on wm2003se
negative. I could connect to internet2.voicestream.com but not internet3.voicestream.com
internet2.voicestream.com gives me exactly same result.
I can connect to any websites but not google.com with both wap.voicestream.com as well as internet2.voicestream.com
very strange. anybody in Texas particularly has same issue?
I'm out of Massachusetts, but was in Dallas a few days ago and had no problem connecting to Google. I use internet2.voicestream.com
This issue has been driving me nuts for 6 months. I've been trying to nail down the problem, I'm wondering if it's a regional setting with T-mobile's servers or incorrect account set ups. Some people with other Universals and Wizards in other area's claim they do not have this problem.
Here's a general thread on Ho-fo that's been getting some hits, when I posted about it here on XDA forums there wasn't much response.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=605044
I actually have a couple friends how work for T-mob that thought the problem was with my JasJar until they got ahold of the MDA and discovered the exact same problem.
I've emailed google, just got a response saying they would forward the concern to their tech's. Please share any info or response you get so we can try to get this resolved!!
I've actually had the same problem and I'm on Cincinnati Bell (which is also Cingular & AT&T). I used to be able to connect with no problem on my PDA2k but with the Universal I can't connect. Actually, I've been able to hit the www.google.com/pda site and type in a search but then it just sits & spins forever.
I have the same problem with my MDA from T-mobile. It only happens sometimes. It always connect to google and m.gmail when using wi-fi, but is very hit or miss when connected over GPRS.
Thats the least of my problems however, as I am constantly getting dropped from the GPRS data network even with full coverage, and I'm in the NYC area. I have alerted T-mobile to both problems and am considering turning in my device since i still have a week to do so not because of the device but because of the connection issues with the network.
This has been a bit of a nightmare when it comes to email, because I came from using a blackberry where all my accounts were instantly pushed, to this now when sometime i get email, sometimes not, my Gmail doesnt work properly, and it can take a half an hour for the email to finally reach me.
No problems here
I have no problems connecting to Google.com from my Blue Angel, or from my friend's Wizard. I'm still waiting for my Universal.
I don't have Total Internet Plan, though. I just have the T-Zones hack: In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
I've noticed in the past two days, however, that Google seems to have changed what it considers a "mobile device", based on the client's User-Agent string. It goes to www.google.com/xhtml if it detects a mobile device. Previously it went to www.google.com/pda , but for a smaller number of devices. Google's "mobile" page has fewer links on it, and is not as useful as the main page.
I use NetFront 3.2, which allows me to change the User-Agent string to make it look like a desktop browser. Today I changed it to:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
I also changed the language/platform to en/x86.
This seems to make Google go back to the normal page.
But no connectivity problems are happening with GPRS. I can search Google, browse results, search newsgroups, search News, etc.
There was an T-mobile outage reported in California last week (search HowardForums). Perhaps this is related (routing issues?).
PS: It seems to depend on the User-Agent, whether www.google.com/pda or www.google.com/xhtml is used. If I run Pocket Internet Explorer, it still goes to /pda (searches work fine). If I run NetFront with factory settings, it goes to /xhtml. If I run Opera, or change Netfront as above, then it goes to the Google main page. In no cases does it have problems connecting. Response is a little faster on the main page, though, which would seem to indicate that Google Mobile does something which is slower.
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Google saying that they "don't support T-Mobile devices with Google Mobile" is like saying "best viewed with xxx browser". The phone provider should have no effect on the usability. Nor should Google have to go out of their way to provide a different experience for Mobile users, or to second-guess their needs based on a User-Agent string -- anyone with any browser should be able to use Google, and nothing special should be done for mobile.
I say disable Google Mobile, by changing the User-Agent.
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I have a T-Mobile MDA with the Total Internet plan and Google works fine for me.
Thanks for feedback folks. This isn't a new issue, I've had this problem for 6 months. I currently have my user agent set to IE 5.5/NT so that I can access my bank web page, I've tried several combinations of user-agent settings with no luck, can you explain the exact changes I'd need to make to try your current setting?
Also, I'm hoping that when Netfront releases a WM5 compatible version I can run through a proxy server (which I've also heard solves the problem).
This is with Blue Angel (SX66), WM2003, T-Mobile T-Zones proxy, NetFront 3.2, so your mileage may vary. I will be getting an O2 Exec any day now.
Tools/Browser Setting/Misc/User Agent/Edit
Title: (anything you want to call it)
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
appName: (blank)
appVersion: (blank)
appCodeName: (blank)
language/platform: en / x86
Tools/Browser Setting/Network/Proxy (T-Zones only, not Total Internet)
Use Proxy: (checked)
Proxy (hostort) 216.155.165.50:8080
Note that NetFront 3.3 is coming out soon. I'm sure it will support WM5.0, but right now Access says "(* Its verification is not completed.)"
Have you tried Opera? It works with T-Zones proxy, at least in WM2003, if you set the proxy in the GPRS Connection Settings.
It might be worth trying the T-Zones hack. Go to My T-Mobile, log in, and then go to this T-Zones page (if that does not work, go to "Plan&Services, Learn About Services, Communication, T-Zones"). Add T-Zones (aka T-MobileWeb) to your plan. Then you should be able to use the proxy as described above. You can remove it later if you don't want to pay the $6/month extra. Some people have even reported being able to add it and remove it immediately, but keep the services.
I tested to connect to the internet via T-Mobile GPRS with my universal as a USB modem hooked up to my laptop.
And it gives a totally different behaviour compared when used directly from the Universal (with pocket IE and Mail application).
Besides a decent speed, I could browse to google, perform search etc, everything seems to work perfectly (from my laptop, Universal as a USB modem). When I browse the same thing again from the Universal, same problem occured again, never get any search result back from google, and GMail will stuck in the step "Sending and Receiving..." which will go forever until it times out.
I also tested with my Wallaby the same thing to make sure its not the device problem, and it turned out the same problem exists also.
I really could not pin point where the problem is. Please help to think, folks. Its not the device problem? Is it T-Mobile GPRS network problem? Or what?
Are there packet sniffers for PPC? Something like tcpdump, traceroute, ping? That would be my next step. See where it's hung up.
There are some PPC tools for that stuff, I played with an app called TCPTune (I think) but couldn't accomplish anything, I'm totally ignorant of the network stuff.
Re: No problems here
leek said:
In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
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Holly crap I made this change (still with full Tmob internet plan) and a few registry edits based on your Netfront settings (probably butchered my registry) and manually forced a connection via my WAP settings and THEN LOADED GOOGLE OVER GPRS!! FULL HTML GOOGLE, NEWS GMAIL, IMAGES, ON MY JASJAR VIA GPRS OMG!! I'm really feeling very strong emotional feelings of like towards you right now Leek! :lol:
I'm having some trouble with google local not returning results (starts to load a page with a text box and then stops), not sure why but I suspect it's a problem with my hacked up user agent registry settings.
So, here's my question - I really don't mind paying the full $20 for regular GPRS (and wouldn't want to worry about full access via the $4.99 tzones going away), how do I either make this work using my regular GPRS settings (so I don't have to use an alternate connection) or how do I get the WAP settings to work as my primary settings for all programs? I was able to update my feeds and load images over this WAP settings just fine, but when I tried to check my email or load Agile messenger it tried to load my regular GPRS settings.
In order to figure out exactly which change made this work I went back and reset my PPC to a backup from last night. The only registry edits I have now are my old ones that made PIE show the version as "MSIE 5.5" & the platform as "Windows NT 5.0". Other than the changes below, I'm using the T-mobile CAB settings from i-mate.
I went into settings > connections > and below My Work Network I went to Manage existing settings and then clicked on the Proxy Settings Tab. The two check boxes were already checked but the proxy server was blank so I entered the 216.155.165.50 and then click on advanced. and it then showed that server under Type HTTP but the port was 80 not 8080, I then clicked on the HTTP server and edited the port to 8080 and then hit ok. I left all the other servers that were listed as is.
From the main Connections > Settings screen I then clicked on manage existing connections, it brought up the T-mobile WAP connection and then I click-held on that and selected connect. I then loaded PIE, navigated to Google and grinned as it loaded everything.
Under this connection type most other web pages I've been trying work fine, although some (like howard forums and search.yahoo.com) don't work. *edit hofo might be down right now*
The problem I was having initally with Google local (via web, haven't tried the local java app) is resolved and it now loads fine, as I suspected it must have been my hacked up user agent registry settings. I'm now also able to check and send POP email with this WAP connection, Agile Messenger connects to the servers.
Big thanks to leek for posting this fix here, now how can I make this my default connection and should I try to downsize my account to just the $5 tzones account?
found how to make it the default connection method (connections > settings > advanced > select networks > and then set the top drop down to "my work network".
Leek, buddy, I owe you a case of beer... This had been driving me nuts for 6 months, you solved it!!!
hi galt and leek,
I'm so excited to read that you guys succesfully solved this.
i could not try it out anymore, I changed my T-Mobile plan yesterday, I removed my total internet plan as I don't want to pay $30 per month without even able to access my primary email account: Gmail and google around.
SO, can you give summary again how to make this works?
I assume no extra application to install beside all standard application built in WM5.
Pls clarify:
1. Get T-MobileWeb /t-zones plan ($5.99)
2. set the proxy setting for HTTP with the port 8080 and left others empty (including the SOCKS, WAP)
3. Use the APN: wap.voicestream.com
Do I miss anything? Any reqistry setting I have to make?
That's it? And you can have full access to the internet? Can you clarify if Gmail is working via POP3?
I tried the proxy setting when I still had my total Internet plan but it did not work out. :`(
When I am using WiFi at home, the browser and email are both lightning fast, except I cannot use MediaNet. The MediaNet web site I can only get to when I use the internet connection supplied by AT&T instead of WiFi.
Can this be fixed? Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks for your help...
My guess is that AT&T needs to authenticate your identity by using your sim card information along with their Medianet setting. By using WIFI, you are getting online through different route and your information can't be verified. If you paid attention closely, you can see medianet's url is something like http(s?)//home, which is not a valid internet url AFAIK. I think medianet setting is coded to forward that request to actual URL medianet home page.
You can not use MediaNet Hompage or CV when on Wifi.
this is because the address of MEdiaNet is...
http://device.home/
its an intranet address - so you need to be connected to their towers, with the proxy set, so when the proxy sees that address, it points you to within Cingular, not out to the web, back into Cingular.
Try going to:
http://www.infospace.com/cinglr.pda/welcome.htm?ver+30480&
or
http://kevxml2a.infospace.com/_1_300313__cinglr.wap/x/app/mls/index.xhtml
Then tap MEdia Net Home
Sign in, see if either of these gets you where you want...
scharnet said:
Try going to:
http://www.infospace.com/cinglr.pda/welcome.htm?ver+30480&
or
http://kevxml2a.infospace.com/_1_300313__cinglr.wap/x/app/mls/index.xhtml
Then tap MEdia Net Home
Sign in, see if either of these gets you where you want...
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what are you going to use to signin with...whats the password.
I have the PDA Unlimited plan through AT&T, and by default, MediaNet was in my favorites list in IE. However, it never loads, and gives me a "this page cannot be displayed error". Is this because I'm not on a MediaNet package?
EDIT: As Neverwork said, I needed to re-enable the proxy, and now the MediaNet page loads... however, why cant I have the best of both words... having it enabled, being able to reach the MediaNet website, AND browse over wifi?
wpbear said:
what are you going to use to signin with...whats the password.
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When you set up your MEdiaNet account online, through Cingular/Att, you set a user name and password.
Here is the spot where you can register, if you haven't done so:
https://www.wireless.att.com/sson/welcome
cirial said:
I have the PDA Unlimited plan through AT&T, and by default, MediaNet was in my favorites list in IE. However, it never loads, and gives me a "this page cannot be displayed error". Is this because I'm not on a MediaNet package?
EDIT: As Neverwork said, I needed to re-enable the proxy, and now the MediaNet page loads... however, why cant I have the best of both words... having it enabled, being able to reach the MediaNet website, AND browse over wifi?
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Install VP3G's WM6 - its based off the ATT WM6 so its got PTT or you can Remap it - and its got Cabs under Programs - Proxy Manager that are Enable and Disable Proxy Cabs
Definitely something wonderful to have, as you dont have to go to connections and all that crap, you just go disable - and then browse over WiFi and Enable only when you want MEdiaNet
AND you can change while you connected - no need to disconnect to make the changes
Neverwork said:
Install VP3G's WM6 - its based off the ATT WM6 so its got PTT or you can Remap it - and its got Cabs under Programs - Proxy Manager that are Enable and Disable Proxy Cabs
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Ok ok, I edited this post because at&t doesn't provide the exact details and there is no thread on here that has all the settings for it.
To get to the connection settings:
Start Menu/Settings/Connections/advanced/select networks/click "new" if media net isn't there or click edit if media net is there/ fill in these settings:
MEdia Net:
General: MEdia Net
Modem:Edit(MEdia Net)/New(Create Media Net):
Name: MEdia Net
Modem:Cellular Line (GPRS , 3G)
Hit next
Access Point name: wap.cingular
Hit next
Leave first three fields empty(if you know what to put put in but it doesn't really matter)
Hit advanced
Select Use server assigned IP address
Select Use IP Header compression
Servers:
Select Use server assigned address
HIT OK
Hit finished
Proxy Settings:
Select This network connects to the Internet
Select This network uses a proxy server. . . .
Proxy Server: wireless.cingular.com
Hit advanced
Hit HTTP
Port:80
Hit ok
Hit Socks
Server: localhost
Port: 1080
Hit ok
AT&T ISP:
General:AT&T ISP
Modem:Edit(Edit My ISP*Change name to AT&T ISP GPRS*/New(Create AT&T ISP GPRS):
Name: AT&T GPRS
Modem:Cellular Line (GPRS , 3G)
Hit next
Hit next
Access Point name: isp.cingular
Hit next
Leave first three fields empty(if you know what to put put in but it doesn't really matter)
Hit Finish
Hit ok
Your done with the internet settings
Select MEdia Net then its totally done and to test it out go to
http://device.home/(It wouldn't normally work with out the proxy settings)
Well, I found them.
It's all over Howardforums.com for years if you'd search there.
I searched and nothing. But this is help full for people on here too.
~~Tito~~ said:
I searched and nothing. But this is help full for people on here too.
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Am sure a few lazy so and so's like...erm me (sometimes) will find this useful. Maybe put some other settings up on this post for other operators. Perhaps worth a look around via search first as its likely to be something that someones already done. But can't be sure.
best
Nick
Why not just use a .cab to do it automatically?
This is the one I've been using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67434&d=1201326345
Also, I recently found out I could add MediaNet under My ISP. So now if I have Wifi on, it'll use Wifi. Otherwise it'll use MediaNet.
I had MediaNet seperate so I kept having to change it. Much better this way.
jackburnt said:
Also, I recently found out I could add MediaNet under My ISP. So now if I have Wifi on, it'll use Wifi. Otherwise it'll use MediaNet.
I had MediaNet seperate so I kept having to change it. Much better this way.
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This is something that I've been trying to figure out for a while. How do you add MediaNet under My ISP. I would love to be able to be on the WIFI while at work and then change to ISP when I leave.
thanks,
P
jackburnt said:
Also, I recently found out I could add MediaNet under My ISP. So now if I have Wifi on, it'll use Wifi. Otherwise it'll use MediaNet.
I had MediaNet seperate so I kept having to change it. Much better this way.
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I am also very curious about this.
Settings > Connections > Connections
Advanced tab > Select Networks
With My ISP selected, click "Edit." Then click "New..." at bottom and enter in the MEdiaNet stuff.
Thanks alot for the info. I was having trouble accessing Cingular Video after flashing to Duttys rom.
i was very confused about this and erased all of the connections
why is there Media Net and AT&T ISP GPRS?
I know this is supposed to be for *dummies*
so i guess i am one
But what's the reasoning behind needing two of them?
surgex0 said:
i was very confused about this and erased all of the connections
why is there Media Net and AT&T ISP GPRS?
I know this is supposed to be for *dummies*
so i guess i am one
But what's the reasoning behind needing two of them?
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One is Media Net Access(and the whole internet) and the other one is for tethering.
5 stars!
Thanks, this helped a lot. Now to figure out how to tell my cooked 6.1 ROM that I am on AT&T and not roaming. Seems to be a bug on every 6.1 ROM I have flashed.
WORKS GREAT Thank You!!!
over2land said:
Why not just use a .cab to do it automatically?
This is the one I've been using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67434&d=1201326345
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Great fix!!! This site is the best for Tilt help!!! Thanks to all!!!!!!
is there a way to do this if the phone is unlocked with t-mobile?
T-mobile settings
danwill42 said:
is there a way to do this if the phone is unlocked with t-mobile?
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Have you tried searching for the settings in this forum?
It is the only way to learn.
Are there any new settings for at&t? I want to update this.
I was hoping someone would figure out how to manually select a tower in AT&T.
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Are there any new settings for at&t? I want to update this.
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I am not sure if there is anything new but this didn't work for me. I tried this on my Tilt 2 flashed with Sergio76's The Cell ROM v9.5 AT&T (just has the AT&T dialer and nothing else AT&T). I had used a cab that fixed all of the settings to what's in the post except the AT&T ISP which I took care of no problem. However, when I go to Media Mall and search for an app, I'm told there are no results for my handset. I looked at the device ident in the settings and the IMEI is there but the s/n is wiped and I can't edit it. Maybe with a regedit...I dunno. I haven't had the time to try that. It was an idea. There's something that was wiped off the phone that identified my device to AT&T...maybe some sort of hidden proxy or certificate or simply the s/n. I haven't found any Tilt 2 users so far that are able to or even use the Media Mall so I dunno. If anyone else knows something or has figured this out please clue me in. I wouldn't mind being able to get back to the media mall.
Thanks for any help...
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Dialed:
Cannot connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacturer's documentation and try again.
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Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
Modem selected: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access point name: mobile.o2.co.uk
User name: O2web
Password: some 16 digit long network automatic password
Domain: no value entered
Advanced settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP address
Servers: Use server-assigned addresses
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I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
iamelegy said:
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
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Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
chaosdefinesorder said:
Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
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Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
iamelegy said:
Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
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It's a general thing with PAYG really, telcos want you to have contracts - make more money from you that way! all PAYG SIMs go through proxies for mobile web connections, and almost all the PAYG proxies are limited to 8080 only.
Then again, it sounds like you didn't use the proxy settings so we'll see what happens w.r.t non html usage!
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
Tmob do one as well that I think £20 for more mins, Unlimited txts and free web (special offer at the moment). It is a better deal than the o2 for only £2.50 more, but I have better o2 reception where I am, and also they use the Edge network.
chaosdefinesorder said:
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
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OK, I've played about with these a bit, and they seem to be working fine. Weather works perfectly, as does my Gmail account on IMAP.
The youtube application is extremely slow, but I'm assuming that is more general, than a specific PAYG problem.
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
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I've got their 'Your Country' SIM pack, which is purely top-up, but they deduct the 7.50 form my credit each month. It's great for me, since you get free minutes for calls to overseas whenever you top-up - damn useful for an Irishman.
Can't afford 20 pound every single month unfortunately. Student life (ignoring the fact that I managed to get a HD).
Thanks again chaps.
Who needs 3G when your EDGE can perform even better? If you configure your MEdia Net setting with the AT&T proxy setting (HTTP: wireless.cingular.com:80, Socks: localhost:1080), then you can get EDGE up to +500kbps easily. The only problem that I encountered (thus far) is that you can't update weather, stocks, or even play youtube (it'll load the search but just wouldn't play)....and I'm sure some people are aware of that. Now if you want everything to work, all you have to do is uncheck the proxy server box, but in doing so, your EDGE speed comes crawling at 100-150kbps.
So my question is, is there a way to modify the registry to get the weather, stock and possibly youtube to work over AT&T proxy?
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I'm using Opera 9.7 build35627
On the address bar, type in opera:config
Go 3/4th of the way down on the list and you'll find PROXY.
now on the fifth line you'll see HTTP server and you'll type in wireless.cingular.com:80
Go down a bit and you'll see USE HTTP. check that box.
Save. Exit and restart Opera.
lude219 said:
Who needs 3G when your EDGE can perform even better? If you configure your MEdia Net setting with the AT&T proxy setting (HTTP: wireless.cingular.com:80, Socks: localhost:1080), then you can get EDGE up to +500kbps easily. The only problem that I encountered (thus far) is that you can't update weather, stocks, or even play youtube (it'll load the search but just wouldn't play)....and I'm sure some people are aware of that. Now if you want everything to work, all you have to do is uncheck the proxy server box, but in doing so, your EDGE speed comes crawling at 100-150kbps.
So my question is, is there a way to modify the registry to get the weather, stock and possibly youtube to work over AT&T proxy?
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It's AT&T's proxy server that is blocking the data, so your answer is no.
great work-around!
Now to figure out if I can get this to work on Fido/Rogers
Great news for AT&T users!
I wonder how many other networks around the world offer such speed increases with changing a few settings like this.
Aleemz said:
Great news for AT&T users!
I wonder how many other networks around the world offer such speed increases with changing a few settings like this.
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I wouldn't be shocked if other carriers have the similar proxy implementation. It's weird because the older connectionsetup v103 doesn't pick up the proxy setting for AT&T, only the newer connection setup did.
Well this is nice found.
Just to clear my own mind I have some questions.
Isn't 3G and EDGE are in different radios on your phone? Like having a high speed internet on your phone line?
EDGE doesn't let you to use your internet while you are talking on your cellphone?
I like this config though, I hope we can find some ways to fix this permenant.
Cheers and thanks for letting us know.
Nimche said:
Well this is nice found.
Just to clear my own mind I have some questions.
Isn't 3G and EDGE are in different radios on your phone? Like having a high speed internet on your phone line?
EDGE doesn't let you to use your internet while you are talking on your cellphone?
I like this config though, I hope we can find some ways to fix this permenant.
Cheers and thanks for letting us know.
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Yes, 3G frequency is different from the GSM (EDGE). I'm just helping those who have a Euro HD2 (stuck with EDGE) or any HD2, but would rather conserve battery by sticking to EDGE. GSM is quadband so you'll get more and better signal coverage than say, 3G, so the chances of you getting good reception everywhere you go is very great. I have 3G and HSPA with my T9193 but honestly, I don't spend most of my time on the net, so it's good to have 850mhz UMTS, though it's not needed in my case. EDGE works just fine
Some devices before like my Diamond and my friend's HD, their 3G speed is around 400-500kbps...which is abysmal when EDGE on the HD2 can perform even better It's just a neat thing for you to have if you want both GOOD battery lilfe and FAST internet. Sure, you sacrifice talk-n-surf, but it's not important for me. I can always turn on 3G/HSDA if i wanted.
lude219,
Thank you for the answer. I do own a European version right now and I take the phone out of charge by 7 AM and then by the end of the night (same day) I have %10 left. I don't use too much internet but just recieve emails. Do you think that when I get 3G phone it will consume more than this? I should start carying a Car's battery with me.
Nothing is perfect. I like the idea of the EDGE/
I will update when I have both phone in hand...
I guess since nobody is mentioning this it can't work but I'll be the dumb one and ask anyway. Is there any way to get this to work on T-Mobile USA? I don't have the knowledge of proxies like you guys do. I have a 3G US version but 3G reception is horrible at my house and I would love to have it stick on Edge at certain times with increased speed. My 3G gives me pretty poor bandwidth overall anyway, certainly less than 500kbps on average. Can it be done on Tmo?
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Who needs 3G when your EDGE can perform even better? If you configure your MEdia Net setting with the AT&T proxy setting (HTTP: wireless.cingular.com:80, Socks: localhost:1080), then you can get EDGE up to +500kbps easily. The only problem that I encountered (thus far) is that you can't update weather, stocks, or even play youtube (it'll load the search but just wouldn't play)....and I'm sure some people are aware of that. Now if you want everything to work, all you have to do is uncheck the proxy server box, but in doing so, your EDGE speed comes crawling at 100-150kbps.
So my question is, is there a way to modify the registry to get the weather, stock and possibly youtube to work over AT&T proxy?
EDIT:: So stupid of me for not figuring this out sooner. If anyone's interested, type "about:config" into opera and go down the list until you see proxy server. Under HTTP, type in "wireless.cingular.com:80" and check the HTTP box further down the list. Save. Exit. Restart opera! I just did a test and it rack in 566kbps on EDGE. Stock tab and weather stab still work!
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ive tried this a few times and its just not working, on opera its saying gateway timed out, any help appreciated.
before the biggest HOOORAY!!! i have a few questions..
does this only works for Opera. Do we get the same speed in IE or maybe skyfire (since we are only applying the proxy under Opera)??
If so, how about downloading using Opera?
and last
what speedtest are you using? I went to speedtest mobile and got lower than 28.8k and am using At&t edge here in the east coast.. (please note i have not started doing the above procedure)
my settings: (personally selected to make sure i am not going to be charge because i currently has iphone 2g plan in my att and did not call them to register my phone since i am using Edge as well)
Baseband - Bands
Network type: GSM -> selected
Band Frequesncy: GSM (1900+850) selected
Advanced Network
HSDPA/HSUPA -> Disabled
Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!! 677kbps used mobilespeedtest.com
you are freaking GENiUS!!!!!!!
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Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!! 677kbps used mobilespeedtest.com
you are freaking GENiUS!!!!!!!
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i want this speed, could you please be more detail in what you did sorry im a noob
open your opera
type
about:config (in the address bar without the www.http://)
and go down the list until you see proxy server. Under HTTP,
type
wireless.cingular.com:80 (without spaces)
and check mark the HTTP box further down the list. Save. Exit. Restart opera
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open your opera
type
about:config (in the address bar without the www.http://)
and go down the list until you see proxy server. Under HTTP,
type
wireless.cingular.com:80 (without spaces)
and check mark the HTTP box further down the list. Save. Exit. Restart opera
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ok ive already done that and then when i open opera back up and search it takes a while the a message pops up saying HTTP gateway timed out.
sorry to be so stupid
lukohtchd2 said:
ok ive already done that and then when i open opera back up and search it takes a while the a message pops up saying HTTP gateway timed out.
sorry to be so stupid
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Sounds like you are not on U.S. AT&T.
that is weird..
your using att right?
if still not working.. try flashing to duttys rom v.05 because it has an updated opera
but seriously, i dont think it shoukd matter.. since we are only changing the proxy server
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Sounds like you are not on U.S. AT&T.
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think you may be rite, im in uk using t-mobile?
So is this possible to do with T-Mobile USA? They have both Edge and 3G so shouldn't a similar setting be available for them as well? Thank you.