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Slow, slow, sloooow

Hello,
I believe many of you are (or have been) having similar problems - I wonder if there's a solution for this?
The problem I have is that when the device comes back from sleep (that is, when I open it after not using it for a while) the screen lights up immediately, but the device is extremely unresponsive. Trying to click the Start menu (or anything else on the screen for that matter) will appear to do nothing at first - then when the device finally comes to its senses (10-30 seconds later) my clicks are "played back" at lightning speed. From then on the device is usable, but this delay is infuriating.
I have ROM 1.13.53 WWE (from Sep-23) with radio 1.03.01. My notifications database is small (15 entries) and I'm not running a lot of apps (I have PocketPlus installed).
Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a solution?
TIA

Are you using any Themes? Try switching back to the standard wm5 theme. My m5000 gets very glacier-like as soon as I try any other theme.

Try this.

Thanks for the replies!
I'm using the default theme. As for this Uni-Turbo thing, what does it do? Just so I know before I install it?

it will speed u your processor, after istall u will find the changing botton on Start/Settings/System/Power/Processor it works but using more power.

Im using this, it works Great ... i think its free, but

It essentially places a control panel file in \Windows which 'replaces' the power control panel item. The replacement is from another device, which has a Turbo Mode. So this gives you the ability to activate the turbo mode on your Universal. I've tried it - its safe to use and removing it returns things back to normal.
Try it and see if anything improves. I can guarantee though, that you'll see far more improvement by hard resetting (use Sprite Backup's free beta to backup emails, contacts, messages, etc).

martona said:
The problem I have is that when the device comes back from sleep (that is, when I open it after not using it for a while) the screen lights up immediately, but the device is extremely unresponsive. Trying to click the Start menu (or anything else on the screen for that matter) will appear to do nothing at first - then when the device finally comes to its senses (10-30 seconds later) my clicks are "played back" at lightning speed. From then on the device is usable, but this delay is infuriating.
I have ROM 1.13.53 WWE (from Sep-23) with radio 1.03.01. My notifications database is small (15 entries) and I'm not running a lot of apps (I have PocketPlus installed).
Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a solution?
TIA
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If you have some Today plugins installed on your device it might slow down the response after turning it on.
For example:
I've got the Resco Explorer installed with it's Today plugin, and my device comes back with the plugin displayed in 15 seconds after opening it.
But when I turn off displaying Resco Today plugin it comes back immediately, after opening... (0,5 secs)
HoPe

My Uni works very well, but then I use it for next to nothing, but I keep memory clean with VJOkButt and stay away from memory resident stuff.
Although not exactly for this question, installing the extended rom dialler had a dramatic impact on speed on mine. If you don't need the pretty buttons, I highly recommend the stock MS Dialler.
V

Start button slowdown on first use
On the issue where the start button doesn't seem to do anything for a while after a suspend or soft reset:
The reason is that an application is listed in the Start Menu which resides on the SD card. What happens is that the Start menu tries to load the icon of the application from the SD card, which first has to wake up, causing the slowdown.
Same thing happens when you're browsing through the Programs folders (Start -> Programs), and there is a pause while loading the application shortcuts.
It's quite annoying, and I think it may be related to one or other registry hack.

Use SmallMenu!
V

vijay555 said:
Although not exactly for this question, installing the extended rom dialler had a dramatic impact on speed on mine. If you don't need the pretty buttons, I highly recommend the stock MS Dialler.
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is there any way to uninstall the extended rom dialer? it's neither listed in the list of installed programs (in SKTools) nor in \Windows\AppMgr :/
thanks, fuf.

Start button slowdown on first use
On the issue where the start button doesn't seem to do anything for a while after a suspend or soft reset:
The reason is that an application is listed in the Start Menu which resides on the SD card. What happens is that the Start menu tries to load the icon of the application from the SD card, which first has to wake up, causing the slowdown.
Same thing happens when you're browsing through the Programs folders (Start -> Programs), and there is a pause while loading the application shortcuts.
It's quite annoying, and I think it may be related to one or other registry hack.

BeyondTheTech has an interesting article somewhere on Skype with this issue.
I just use SmallMenu, the normal StartMenu is useless to me.
Uninstalling the extended rom - i don't think so. You can probably manually delete the files it installs, but it'd be incredibly tedious and perhaps inaccurate/unstable. Best is to hard reset and setup again, but that's also tedious.
V

Re: Start button slowdown on first use
snorbaard said:
On the issue where the start button doesn't seem to do anything for a while after a suspend or soft reset:
The reason is that an application is listed in the Start Menu which resides on the SD card. What happens is that the Start menu tries to load the icon of the application from the SD card, which first has to wake up, causing the slowdown.
Same thing happens when you're browsing through the Programs folders (Start -> Programs), and there is a pause while loading the application shortcuts.
It's quite annoying, and I think it may be related to one or other registry hack.
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So how come then I have the same thing when browsing anything for the first time after the soft reset even when I have NOTHING installed on the SD card? :wink:

martona said:
Hello,
I believe many of you are (or have been) having similar problems - I wonder if there's a solution for this?
The problem I have is that when the device comes back from sleep (that is, when I open it after not using it for a while) the screen lights up immediately, but the device is extremely unresponsive. Trying to click the Start menu (or anything else on the screen for that matter) will appear to do nothing at first - then when the device finally comes to its senses (10-30 seconds later) my clicks are "played back" at lightning speed. From then on the device is usable, but this delay is infuriating.
I have ROM 1.13.53 WWE (from Sep-23) with radio 1.03.01. My notifications database is small (15 entries) and I'm not running a lot of apps (I have PocketPlus installed).
Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a solution?
TIA
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If you are using SPB Pocket Plus or any other similar software and allowing the SD card indicator on your today screen just remove it and you will realize the difference.
Also avoid to use any battery indicator on today screen as it will slow the device as well.
My last advice to you if you are using SPB Pocket plus is to un-install it and use any other similar program like Resco today plugins.... this will also speed up your device becuase the available version of SPB pocket plus is not completely compatible with WM5.
Regards,

I am using SPB PP (beta release) and its fast, but I didnt have a real problem with the earlier releases. I also use SPB diary and SPB Weather, and still no real problem, slightly sluggish but not intolerable.
My device wakes up perfectly immediately every time, and rings at the beginning of the second ring.
1. Remove SD card and battery monitors
2. Disable some of the additional SPB plug ins that you dont need like safe mode boot, PIE plug ins, battery monitor etc
3. Remove the antivirus software
4. Disable error reporting
5. Disable auto receive beams
6. Try disabling SPB altogether and see if it is still sluggish and unresponsive
7. Dont have anything on SPB or other that is immediately directed to the SD card as the SD card takes longer to recognise on wake up
8. Consider not switching the device off. I never turn it off, at all, wind down screen brightness, disable auto off, but auto off the screen only, close the clam shell switches off the screen but doesnt switch off the machine. the screen sucks the battery, not the processor.
Let me know if you have had any luck with this.
Perhaps you could also:
1. Ensure you have the latest rom from the website
2. Dont allow the extended rom to install (hard reset, and press reset when it says customising device), then use total commander to go to the extended rom and selectively install the items you need, this forum is full of information for this.

vijay555 said:
I just use SmallMenu, the normal StartMenu is useless to me.
V
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I just tried it and I have to admit I already like smallmenu. One question please: How do I customize smallmenu?
It seems to me it is locked at the following list:
Today
Programs
Favorites
Commonly Used Programs
Settings
Suspend
SmallMenu

I reset my device before any of the crap from Ext.Rom could install. I now have a speeeeeedy device. Oh, i am using an i-mate Jasjar btw.

simon_darley said:
close the clam shell switches off the screen but doesnt switch off the machine. the screen sucks the battery, not the processor.
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I disagree, try to power off the device every time you close the clam and power it on when you open it and you will see how much the battery life will improve. It really makes the difference, I just can't be bothered and am too lazy to do it :lol: I charge it every night anyway.

Add ons and fixes for Mogul

I know there are a few threads similar to this, but most of them quickly get off topic and are not all that useful. I was thinking about having everyone post what fixes and add ons for people have, and their overall experiences with each. Then we can have a single source to see which dialers work best, if any of the so called fixes actually work... all without searching 10 forums on 15 different sites.
Heres mine
Sprint Mogul
Pocket CM 0.15
jpl4 touch dialer
xda-developers power bar
the 8 button comm manager
spb mobile shell today add on
sms text sent notification disabled
I have noticed that my mogul is slower... especially when changing to landscape to use the keyboard, but i feel like this is pocket cm... please make additions... i think i am not the only one sick of looking through at least 5 different forums

I did away with PocketCM as it has some lag when opening. I switched over to iContacts and love it. Loads fast, does what I need which is to find contacts one handedly and when i hit OK or the top right X it closes it out completely. PocketCM stays open and running which can slow device down.

i meant to mention, right now i can't get redial to work properly with my dial pad... i have to go to call history and hit the hard dial button. Other dialers have worked, but i like the setup of this dial pad best... not sure if i'll change back to the mogul big button or not.

x button 2.0
todayAgenda (MT software)
tomtom navigator 6
total commander
lordsmiff battery level
all works

sms text sent notification disabled
How did you do this... I have been searching around and havent had much success
"sms text sent notification disabled"

every1isevil said:
How did you do this... I have been searching around and havent had much success "sms text sent notification disabled"
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should be done with this regkey:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSDeliveryNotify"=dword:00000001

petervbeck said:
should be done with this regkey:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSDeliveryNotify"=dword:00000001
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if you do that you will also disable your vibrate function. There is a cab file that will stop the notice.
Here's one:
http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=54

so i changed back over to the "mogul big button dialer" which i don't like the looks of as much, but it works perfectly.
Also 2 days ago I installed the task manager 2.0 I found over at the hermes forum... suddenly my battery doesn't need to be recharged!! More like I unplugged it yesterday morning and a full 25 hours later it said 80% charged this am... maybe just a fluke. Anyone else get better battery with this addon? (Task_Manager_2_0_30487_2.cab)

nursemm05 said:
if you do that you will also disable your vibrate function. There is a cab file that will stop the notice.
Here's one:
http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=54
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Oops, sorry! I was referring to the wrong thing! If you disable the light, you disable your vibrate function! Sorry for th confusion!

I like the concept
I've been looking for a thread like this for a while. If I could make a suggestion, could you please list or attach the freeware files along with your posts. I'm having to do just as much searching to find out what a certain program does and download location as before.

I got rid of PocketCM... way too slow for me.
I'm running:
PIEPlus
10 button CommManager
WkTask
SPB Mobile Shell, Phone Suite, and Backup
Arcsoft MMS
dcd's touch dialer
Disabled SMS Sent Notification
Plus a bunch of other irrelevant stuff.
I notice lag sometimes when I go to send a text message and pop out the keyboard. Seems to have some lag going to landscape, and lag opening up the new text message window. Other than that it's fine for the most part.

I've used the following registry tweaks and gotten dramatically better battery life:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127164&highlight=registry
A couple of us have tested this and found a nice increase in battery life. On my Treo 700 it seemed to do nothing but on the Q it greatly helped (I ran for 12 hours yesterday push email in a low signal environment and stayed at 4 bars battery--normally would have been at 2 or 3)
Quote:
"...simple registry trick and hack that will enable power management on several communications protocols to save and conserve the battery life, and thus extend and prolong the battery of the Windows Mobile devices."
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
(Again, use at your own risk -- I disclaim any liability -- except to say I've tried the above and it works well for me with no apparent downside).
On memory use, I found that people have tried removing the HTC_CM_Guardian and dddaemon from the \Windows\StartUp folder. I personally moved them to a "save" folder so I can restore them if I run into problems. One of them loads the voice dialer function and the other prevents certain changes to the system --- both appear to be memory hogs. I don't use voice dialer (I think even without this program the voice dialer will loan on demand anyway). Removing these two has improved my memory usage.
I use tMan as a task manager --- very handy and fast to close and manage running processes. Also very lightweight and easy to use.
Another REALLY useful tweak, the FlashVideoBundle along with the TCPMP player --- enables full screen YouTube videos launched from PIE. Is not compatible with the Flash plug in however, you can only have one or the other installed. See here for details:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1319431&postcount=1

problem with UltimateLauncher with more than 2 todayplugins

I'm testing this nice app but I've got several problems after the first setup.
If i insert in the varius tab more than 2 today plugins like Pockerweaver and Pocket Digital Clock in one tab and Todayagenda in other one, every time i enter into the program setup for adding or modifing something and i confirm the modification, my device hang. I need to softreset.
Does someone else have the same problem?
I've got I tyTn (I've tested with both WM 6.0 and 6.1)

lightman3dd said:
I'm testing this nice app but I've got several problems after the first setup.
If i insert in the varius tab more than 2 today plugins like Pockerweaver and Pocket Digital Clock in one tab and Todayagenda in other one, every time i enter into the program setup for adding or modifing something and i confirm the modification, my device hang. I need to softreset.
Does someone else have the same problem?
I've got I tyTn (I've tested with both WM 6.0 and 6.1)
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I've experienced that sometimes during set up...It happened somewhat randomly, but not so much to prevent me from doing what I needed to set up. Also, it doesn't do it now that everythig is set. You might try:
1. make sure all your plugins are not enabled in the normal Today set up before you try to add them into a tab or sub tab.
2. properly set the "Activate plugin on startup" and "Save memory" checkboxes. I generally have the first only checked on the "main" tab items and unchecked on all other tabs. Also, I generally have the "Save mem" unchecked for the main, and checked for the others.
I can't say this will stop it from happening, but i did expereicnce different results when I played with them some...

jomo25 said:
I've experienced that sometimes during set up...It happened somewhat randomly, but not so much to prevent me from doing what I needed to set up. Also, it doesn't do it now that everythig is set. You might try:
1. make sure all your plugins are not enabled in the normal Today set up before you try to add them into a tab or sub tab.
2. properly set the "Activate plugin on startup" and "Save memory" checkboxes. I generally have the first only checked on the "main" tab items and unchecked on all other tabs. Also, I generally have the "Save mem" unchecked for the main, and checked for the others.
I can't say this will stop it from happening, but i did expereicnce different results when I played with them some...
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Thanks a lot for the answer...I've followed you tricks...but in my case the problem appears in a systematic way :-((((

I love UL but its still a tiny bit buggy. It just doesn't seem to like certain today plugins. I don't have a rhyme or reason for it, but sometimes it doesn't play nice.

PocketWeaver?
Could it be PocketWeaver? I've used UL for several months now with MANY today plugins. Currently I am using it with both PocketDigitalClock and TodayAgenda. Since PocketWeaver is the only one I haven't tried could that be what UL is not behaving well with?
At one time I had 5 plugins running in 3 tabs and UL setup has never hung for me.

lightman3dd said:
I'm testing this nice app but I've got several problems after the first setup.
If i insert in the varius tab more than 2 today plugins like Pockerweaver and Pocket Digital Clock in one tab and Todayagenda in other one, every time i enter into the program setup for adding or modifing something and i confirm the modification, my device hang. I need to softreset.
Does someone else have the same problem?
I've got I tyTn (I've tested with both WM 6.0 and 6.1)
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How long did you wait before a soft reset. On my device I have to wait quite a bit for the screen to refresh after any configuration changes. I have 4 tabs with 7 plugins going right now and it does not hang.

I noticed I couldn't get the Audio Manager plugin to work properly in UL, wouldn't expand on selection.

I have phone weaver running without issue. Phone Alarm was giving me problems and very infrequently batterystatus

rifraf1 said:
How long did you wait before a soft reset. On my device I have to wait quite a bit for the screen to refresh after any configuration changes. I have 4 tabs with 7 plugins going right now and it does not hang.
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I wait several minutes...and it hangs also doing a simple INI refresh...

lightman3dd said:
I wait several minutes...and it hangs also doing a simple INI refresh...
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UPDATE: i think to have found the reson why...I've set all the ico dimension to a "correct" dimension, like for an ICO with maximum of 48px i've set 48px and not 52 or something more and for an ico of 68 i've set 68 not more or less...and all is working weel now. I can do ini refresh and modify the settings without any phone hang.

I figured I try out UltimateLaunch and I made a new tab and added BatteryStatus today plugin. It locked up, after soft reset it locks up within a few seconds. Any ideas how I can fix this without a hard reset? Thanks
Chris
EDIT: I was able to get to the Today screen and disable UltimateLaunch after about 20 tries and some caffeine! I disabled battery status in the today screen this time and turned of the minimize in Ultimate Launch. This fixed my issues. Thanks anyway.
Chris

Sorry a newbie question. How do I actually put in more than 1 today plugin into the home tab of UL? Does the software allow that? I would like the whole today screen to rotate n not only part of it.
Thanks in advance for the reply.

[email protected] said:
Sorry a newbie question. How do I actually put in more than 1 today plugin into the home tab of UL? Does the software allow that? I would like the whole today screen to rotate n not only part of it.
Thanks in advance for the reply.
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Adjust the height and add a 2nd plugin, just like you did with the 1st.

[email protected] said:
Sorry a newbie question. How do I actually put in more than 1 today plugin into the home tab of UL? Does the software allow that? I would like the whole today screen to rotate n not only part of it.
Thanks in advance for the reply.
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If you want to have more than one today plugin on the same tab (i.e., HTC Home with another plugin underneath it) be sure to "combine" the tab.
FYI, the perfect fixed height for UL, with the system tray still visible, is 245 pixels.

Thanks very much for all your help. I got it.

Maybe you Gurus can help me....
I wish to have MyFaves as a UL plug-in but it will not show up unless I have it checked in the Today screen items, then it shows up twice (once in UL & once on my Today screen). Can anyone help me? BTW I have a cooked ROM & am using DuPrade's MyFaves cab file.

dzelaya18 said:
FYI, the perfect fixed height for UL, with the system tray still visible, is 245 pixels.
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...267 if you don't have the system tray.
I too experienced some lockup issues using Battery Status. I have since unloaded it and no lockups since. I'm thinking it's anything actively monitoring the system that UL doesn't like. Although i have RLToday installed and using it for my msgs notifications, but that is a registry read.

Scheduled Programs Problem (Notiweather, random reset, random wall)

Whats up guys
I have a problem with my phone with certain software, and I'm trying to figure out why. I cannot run a scheduled program and have it keep working. For example, I can run notiweather and it will work and change the wallpaper for s2u2, but it won't do it again, even though its scheduled every hour. A soft reset scheduler will also not work, along with a random boot screen changer.
I reinstalled mortscript but still am getting nowhere. What else could be the problem?
I am running UL with batterystatus, s2u2 and a few more today plugins.

Synned said:
Whats up guys
I have a problem with my phone with certain software, and I'm trying to figure out why. I cannot run a scheduled program and have it keep working. For example, I can run notiweather and it will work and change the wallpaper for s2u2, but it won't do it again, even though its scheduled every hour. A soft reset scheduler will also not work, along with a random boot screen changer.
I reinstalled mortscript but still am getting nowhere. What else could be the problem?
I am running UL with batterystatus, s2u2 and a few more today plugins.
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Start by checking your power settings under you system settings. I have known devices that when the power setting is set to Power off instead of suspend then routine programs won't run. If that doesn't work check your batterstatus settings. It sometimes can be the cause. I would recommend if these 2 do not work remove everything like it from startup and see if your scheduled updates work. If it does, manually start 1 program at a time and see if it continues to function. when it finally doesn't you probably have located your conflict and need to check it out more thoroughly.
cg

Backlight Adjustment sliders(manual) are GONE?

Hi folks.. i'm a longtime reader here but i never needed to post.. everything was provided( Thanks for that BTW). But now, i own a Leo myself and came across a problem i didn't find answered( or even asked) yet.
My backlight adjustmen sliders ( Settings->sound&Display.->Backlight) have dissaperead. You know the ones, one is for On battery power and the other On external power. Well, they are just GONE, and it just says "Bright" in each category. I installed a bunch of tweaks, and probably one of them is the culprint, but have no ideea which one and i'm not up for a hard reset/take'em one by one just yet, after spending 4 days tweaking it to my liking.
So maybe someone knows the answer to this..
My setup:
Rom: 1.48
installed:
all 4 hotfixes, Bsb Tweaks, Duttys task manager, resco explorere and reg edit, LEd notification enabler, grzegorz B4all+20 shortcuts, .net 3.5, touch x longpress sendkey Alttab, touch x powerbutton actionscreen, touch x remove topcurtain, touch x speedup landscape album, smaberg 1% batt, touchx power management on, g-alarm, Ms reader, WMlonglife, Skyfire, JWMD Icon changer, SPB backup, Heartwolf lockscreen fix v4, tccm settings( no ideea what this one is really, it was preinstalled), and also htc IME_EastEurope( also preinstalled, also no ideea what it is).
I didn't notice the sliders gone until yesterday, and by then all this was installed.. So any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: POSSIBLE FIX BY MattOG:
MattOG said:
::EDIT::
For a quick fix, (not sure if it'll last, though it survived a soft-reset, so that's promising)
Goto HKCU -> ControlPanel -> BackLight:
Change ACBrightness to 10
Change Brightness to 10
(Can be anything other than 0)
(These work on power of 10's, so 1=10%, 2=20%, etc)
Now the sliders are back and you can adjust manually. Still not sure what changed them in the first place though.
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so, apparently i am the only one with this problem? still haven't found the cause..

Well I have the hotfixes, bsb tweaks, duttys task manager and .net 3.5 installed and no problem for me, so you can scratch those off the possible problem causer list. You seem to have a few power management apps on there which may be taking this into their own hands - try removing them first and see if it comes back?

I have the same thing,
Off your list, the things we have in common installed:
4 hotfixes, bsbtweaks, resco file explorer, resco reg edit, 20 shortcuts, .net 3.5, smaberg 1% battery, g-alarm.
I've always had mine on auto, until I wanted to look at improving battery life today...
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For a quick fix, (not sure if it'll last, though it survived a soft-reset, so that's promising)
Goto HKCU -> ControlPanel -> BackLight:
Change ACBrightness to 10
Change Brightness to 10
(Can be anything other than 0)
(These work on power of 10's, so 1=10%, 2=20%, etc)
Now the sliders are back and you can adjust manually. Still not sure what changed them in the first place though.
Oh, hello everyone by the way, this is my first post!

i somehow reverseed the condition myself, and came here to post, only to find MattOG allready found a fix.
What i did was, following ftr2k8's suggestion, unistalled touchx powermanagement on, also disabled power management from BsB tweaks, then softreset, then reapply power management from BSB tweaks. I did not check immediatly after that, did a few other things, like add pinch to zoom to IGO with BSB, install flashlight, fingerkeyboard, clear ram, and played around with them.. did a few softresets..
when i checked, the sliders were back. I suspect powermanagement was responsible.
No way to test MattOG's fix, but i think it's a more reliable way to try then mine
Thanks guys, cheers!

I have just had the same problem on mine
(I adjust brightness settings everynight as i watch tv eps in bed)
and the only things I had done were
update to 1.66 firmware
re-install
resco explorer, photo manager, live, opera 10 beta, skyfire, office mobile, opnmarket.
I've had all of these on before the flash so not sure why it happened.
I've done the reg fix and that's brought them back