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My XDA II keeps turning itself on, as if a program is waking it up.
I have checked that no programs are running using the option under Start/Settings/System/Memory.
Is there a way to see what processes are running in the background?
It does this even when stationary on my desk so it's not an accidental button press.
Has anyone else experienced this?
I'd appreciate any suggestions on tracking this down as it has a huge impact on battery life.
Thanks.
yup... mine was caused by Activesync. Make sure you have all the settings set to "Manual".
You can also download "Notification Check" by Scarybearsoftware. It will go through your PDA and look for extra events that don't belong there.
For some time I was getting a calander event for some birthday that didn't even exist!
yep, here too
I notice that it turn on after upgrading from 1.66 to 1.72
I'm not sure that could be for this...
I'll try "Notification Check"...from scarybear software
I had this and it was doing my head in! But using the check notifications did not help. I thought that possibly some of the games I installed to my SD card may have caused the problem.
So I copied everything off the card, and formatted it in the pocketpc (resco explorer), not from a card reader! Then I copied everything back and since then not a single un-intentional turn on.
Cheerio
Howard
Well, it didn't fix it for me either. I'm now testing with the Storage Card removed.
I'll post back if I find anyhting.
Another problem is when your GPRS connection activates itself!! soo annoying.
Taking the storage card out made no difference.
So far, however, with Flight Mode turned on it seems to be fine.
If this is the case then that would be really annoying.
What would be going on with Flight Mode Off to cause the XDA II to wake up?
With the radio off, GPRS is also off (as is BlueTooth and IR).
Is GPRS turning the device on?
Immediately after the device powers itself on, tap the signal meter and see if GPRS is connected.
Do you have a POP3 or IMAP4 Email account set to retreive messages at a regular interval?
Thanks, I'd already checked those.
The radio off was a red herring. It woke me up at 02:06 for no reason that I coulod find, with radio off.
I'd really like to find this before doing a hard reset so that I can fix it again if necessary and posting here will help others.
There's nothing worse than curing a problem and you don't know how.
My feeling is that it is being caused by some program you have loaded . . . or worst case, by a combination of programs. Unfortunately, if that's the case, the most likely way to track down the culprit will be to -
1. Hard-reset your device.
2. Run it for a time with no additional programs installed to make sure the problem is gone.
3. One at a time, install a single additional program and run it that way for a while to see if the problem occurs.
4. Only after proving that the problem does not occur with that configuration do you install another program.
5. If the problem occurs after installing a program - Hard-reset the device again and install only that program - then you know if the program itself is causing the problem or if it is a combination of programs.
This does not necessarily sound like FUN . . . but I can't see a better way to positively identify which program is causing your problem.
HTH
Thanks for that. That is my thinking too.
I'll do that when I've got a few hours to spare and I'll post the results, identifying the offending program.
ON and OFF
I have the same exact problem.
And I did found out that this is some of the program I install.
Example : SPB Pocket Plus (also other Today's plugin)
I did a hard reset, and try with out any program, then ad one program, then two etc..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
unfortunatly I love some of the plugin, but I have to get rid of it, if I don't want my battery to fall off in one day.
Bruxelles5 wrote:
..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
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This is curious, as I have SPB Pocket Plus 2.0 installed, and I have never experienced an unintended/spontaneous turn-on (of my imate anyway ).
try turing battery monitor off in sprite backup
and also turn off the battery bar thing in spb2
that sorted my probs out
Turning on
I use Pocketplus and don't have a turning on problem, except when cradled, in which case it continuously tries to sync, even with everything set to manual.
Don't think Pocketplus is the cukprit.
SMW1
I've got my new Tytn for about a week now.
Today I had a problem:
My device was in sleeping mode, and would not wake-up either when receiving a call or by pressing the 'on' key.
I had to soft reset the device to go back to normal.
I think I remember a similar issue with Universal at first.
Does anyone has an idea on how to fix that problem?
Thanks!
Please search before posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59007
Thanks Pof!
I made a search but I guess I wasn't as half as efficient as you!
Your link answered my question. Thank again!
Actually, I don't think there's a definitive answer yet. Your problem (won't wake up after overnight charging) has been confirmed though and some suspect SPB software as the underlying cause.
I personally suspect a bug in the TyTN's WM5 build that will be fixed with a subsequent ROM update. Powersave mode in the TyTN is a different beast. I've noticed quite a few ideosyncracies with my TyTN when it was in powersave mode.
Sleuth255 said:
I personally suspect a bug in the TyTN's WM5 build that will be fixed with a subsequent ROM update.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. I don't have any SPB soft installed, and this happens quite frequently after overnight charging.
I contacted Spb and reported this issue to them. Here is the answer I got:
please add poutlook.exe, tmail.exe, instmsgr.exe and cprog.exe to the list of Exceptions in Close button options and let us know if it helps.
Feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
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I haven't tried yet. but I will and will report the results here.
Nevertheless, I must say that since I uninstalled Spb Pocket Plus, I didn't have any more problem...
My TyTn does this ocassionally also, however my gut tells me it has to do with a program that contacts or syncs with the internet while the device is in standby.
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My TyTn does this ocassionally also, however my gut tells me it has to do with a program that contacts or syncs with the internet while the device is in standby.
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In my case, I don't have any software that automatically connects to the Internet.
Actually, I have almost no program installed. Spb Pocket plus being my favorite app, I always install it first on any device I get.
That's why it was easy for me to pin down the culprit!
I believe there are two seperate issues that affect the TyTN in powersave mode being discussed here. One of them may indeed be related to SPB Pocket Plus but I'm thinking that only people reporting slowness with this app may be affected. I never had any slowdown with SPB pocket plus and the only powersave glitch I ever experienced was after overnight charging.
hmm, I suspect that you may be right about two issues. I have been experiencing that I posted in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59774 this thread
I have often found an Activesync process running when my device becomes unuseably slow[/url]
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I have often found an Activesync process running when my device becomes unuseably slow[/url]
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I noticed that Activesync is almost constantly running in the background. Not only with TyTn, but with all HTC devices I previously or currently owned (almost all! :? ).
Since my 1st post, and the uninstalling of Spb Pocket Plus, my TyTn never froze again.
Next to that I tried the overnight charging for 4 days now and didn't experience any problem.
hmm, I wonder what my issues could be because I don't have anything installed at all.
I have the sa like 100thmonkey. No aditional software. But it hangs too. I noticed that always, when an internetconnection is established or a software (I have Internet Explorer opened) uses Internet while I was loading my hermes, it crashes.
Maybe you can find the same reason, that some internetapplication was active before it crashes.
I followed Spb advices related to the Pocket Plus freezing issues (please check my earlier post on this).
l am happy to say that since I didn't have any problem.
So if your TyTn freezes because of Spb Pocket Plus, you must...
Add poutlook.exe, tmail.exe, instmsgr.exe and cprog.exe located in Windows directory to the list of Exceptions in Close button options.
Hope this will help!
Is there a solution
Any body found an solution for this problem? It happens all the time after nightly over charge... I Do not use Spb +
The solution is simple. It work on my CHT9000 well.
The causes for sleeping may be due to;
1) The programe installed in the micro sd card is shown on TODAY screen. (In my case, the agile messenger installed in card but shown in today screen)
2) Any operation of the phone during charging.
I just simple remove the agile messenger from today screen and soft reset before charging. The phoen will wake up with you on next day morning.(Provided that you set the alarm! )
If I leave my Orange SPV3100 on charge overnight (or for longer than about 4--6 hours) it won't wake up from sleep mode. All I do is plug the power (or USB) cable in (I dont turn of the radio or anything) and it does this.
The green light still flashes, but it wont accept SMS, phone calls or anything else.
So there seems to be a real problem?
I wonder what ROM/carrier is on all of these?
I have a question. I've only had a WM5 device for about 9 months now. I now have Cingular 8525 and for the past 5 days I have left it on overnight only to find it frozen, won't wake up in the morning and the battery drained.
I did the Activesync hack, scanned the notifications queue and did not see any notifications for midnight on the dates the device would not wake up.
Its frustrating.
I was wondering if WM5 did some form of house cleaning nightly. It seems that this house cleaning wakes up the device and somewhere it freezes on and finally the battery gives out. I don't have any backup software going on.. Nothing. I just find the device won't wake up, won't even soft reset. Plug it in for a minute, then it soft resets with a dead battery.
I am going to look at the notifications queue tonight and delete any notifications I see that are for 0:00 and tomorrow and see what happens.
I am hard resetting it Monday and re-installing if I can't figure it out. It has been really annoying these last 5 mornings.
Sometime when I reboot I see a NO GSM message. Then get no radio, then about 10 minutes later I get service. But the password and the userid on the wap data connection has been erased and my bonded blue tooth headset password is forgotten, the device is there but it prompts me to bond with a passkey when I go to intiate the headset...
Thanks for your thoughts
This has, I believe, alot to do with your microSD card - see the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284636
Thanks I'll check it out. I do have a sd card in the device. It may be the cause.
Thanks.
I use SPB Backup, to initiate automated reboots. What it does is back up to ur microsd and then initiate a reboot. i do this every second night. which is cool, keeps the fone fast.
Nightly lockups were a pain in the neck for me - I have had 2 Orange M3100 and both suffered the same nightly lockup issues.
I found that 4 things have fixed the issues and i found that all 4 have to be done
1. Fake server trick
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
But i found that not deleting the new server works fine
2. Untick Enable Advanced Network Functionality
Under Settings\Connections\USB to PC
3. Stopping Activesync running when not needed
In the notification queue there are 3 entries to start replog.exe (activesync)
you can safely delete the instruction to start after time change - This will stop Activesync from running.
NB the other 2 need to be there, do not delete any other notification of replog.exe
4. Never leave activesync running so always do a soft reset after syncing or at least before you charge the phone.
Not saying that these will work for everyone but they have worked for me on both phones.
try XBar. It incorporates cron, so you can schedule whatever program to run whenever you want it. Grap a copy of quickreset and run it. It will reset the Tytn at whatever time you set it for. I have mine resetting at 5 in the morning.
You may disable the standby mode when the unit on the external power supply. I have done, and I think it's not a big deal and it does not worth to struggle with locks on wakeups with external power!
I having a sort of similar 'morning trouble' with my TyTN, but limited to GSM connectivity. When I wake up, I am most of the cases disconnected from network with 'No service' message in the baloon. Searching for network is unsuccessful, nothing works until I soft reset the device.
Just a thought: You do have the "poweroff after x minutes" setting checked right?
I had what I thought was the same issue this morning, but it was caused by me unchecking the above setting (I do this during meetings when I'm using my BT keyboard) the previous day. This morning, while it was still dark out, I pressed the power button and nothing (the backlight was off and this actually put it into powersave mode). I pressed it again and still nothing (device came out of powersave mode with backlight still off). Because it was dark when I did this, I initially thought that I had the "won't return from powersave" problem.
machmandp said:
Nightly lockups were a pain in the neck for me - I have had 2 Orange M3100 and both suffered the same nightly lockup issues.
I found that 4 things have fixed the issues and i found that all 4 have to be done
1. Fake server trick
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
But i found that not deleting the new server works fine
2. Untick Enable Advanced Network Functionality
Under Settings\Connections\USB to PC
3. Stopping Activesync running when not needed
In the notification queue there are 3 entries to start replog.exe (activesync)
you can safely delete the instruction to start after time change - This will stop Activesync from running.
NB the other 2 need to be there, do not delete any other notification of replog.exe
4. Never leave activesync running so always do a soft reset after syncing or at least before you charge the phone.
Not saying that these will work for everyone but they have worked for me on both phones.
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I have a similar problem. Every monring when the device is still plugged on the wall charger, it hangs before I wake up. I would therefore miss a lot of calls or other notifications. I have done the defragmentation of the card, but it still doing the same thing every morning.
I have also tried all your steps above, ecept step 3, which I need your assistance as to how to delete the particular file you were referring to.
Many thanks in advance.
marsb007 said:
try XBar. It incorporates cron, so you can schedule whatever program to run whenever you want it. Grap a copy of quickreset and run it. It will reset the Tytn at whatever time you set it for. I have mine resetting at 5 in the morning.
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holy crap, i thought i was the only one that used xbar.. i have been using this program for 2 or 3 years, this is my one and only must have program!! FYI 3.2 beta was released
anyway.. on to this problem, i used to have this on my wizard, what i found was that plugging it and leaving it on would cause the lock up. Now when i plug it in i hit the power button and havent experienced it since on my wizard or on my 8525 yet. and i still get all of my push mails etc.. however i will say that if i get a call or text while im sleeping the device does wake up and the screen stays on..
another program you might want to try is SKSchema... they have several scripts that you can run, including a soft reset at a certain time. I also use the script which allows me to toggle between 3G/UMTS to save battery when I don't need 3G.
"Fake Server" did not work for me
Tried what is outlined - fake server, soft-re-boot, stopping activesync. Not sure how to delete the specific files in the notification queue.
Worked for one night! Next night back to the sleeping Tytn.
I am going to try spbTime to trigger an alarm at 12:01am and see if that helps.
TyTn does not "die" anymore!
The fake server is definitely part of the answer. As is stopping ActiveSynch. This needs to be combined with one other suggestion made on the forum of leaving the unit on when plugged in. This however has the potential drawback of "burning" the screen with the same image as when left powered on.
In addition to Activesynch, the problem is with the Notification queue (again as someone suggested on this forum). In the Suspend/Sleep mode under power, the unit cannot notify and goes into a perpetual loop.
Here is what I did that has now worked for 11 days. I installed spb PocketPlus and placed the "Screen Toggle" icon on the main screen. (According to spb, "Toggle" simply blanks the screen but does not put it to sleep/Suspend). So when I plug the unit in to charge it, I simply "toggle" the screen. The screen is blank (just like "Sleep"/"Suspend") but the unit is powered up. This has the added benefit of allowing you to listen to music with the screen blank.
I have now gotten to "toggling" even under battery power. Miraculously, my intermittent BT and Wi Fi issues have also disappeared. There may be cheaper solutions than buying Pocket Plus, but spb's Pocket Plus is convenient and has some other nice features.
Mortsaver might be a cheaper option?
Active Sync
I don't know if any of you have tried Active Sync "beta" 4.5". Its seems to have fixed many of my problems with connection and some of the issues described here.
flane
coolshot said:
This however has the potential drawback of "burning" the screen with the same image as when left powered on.
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This problem affects CRT and plasma displays (phosphor based), but not TFT.
Everyone,
I have a strange problem with my prophet, I have tried about 3 diff wm6 roms so far from this site.
And once flashed my phone randomly seems to wake up.
The screen will flash and turn on for now apparent reason.
Any thoughts?
My mate who has a wizard has the same problem.
cheers,
Mike.
Could it simply be the active sync error (it keeps automatically starting up)?
If so, just do this:
Open Activesync on your device and tap on Menu>Add Server Source. Add any info to create a fake server sync. After that is complete go to Menu>Schedule and change the two dropdowns to "Manual" and tap "ok" at the top right. You can now go to Menu>Options and delete the Exchange Server setting you just added.
I have the same problem since I installed WM6 Underground yesterday.
I've tried your solution but it doesnt work (it still occurs after a soft reset).
Anyone else has a solution? This is so annoying
Try locking the device
I have noticed the same thing but it's going away if I'm locking the phone (only the power button remaining enabled).
yes this is happening for me using the ASERG 3.12 WM5 ROM.
It's really irritating as it seriously drains the battery. Went down about 30% last night.
Also waking up means running all sorts when the phone is in my pocket.
Short battery life causes me big problems as I travel a lot......
I'm thinking of going back to one of the less troublesome WM5 ROMS. I gave up with WM6 due to the loss of BT, GPRS and Wifi settings after a soft reset.
I'm sure one of the geniuses will fix all these issues soon.
cheers!
this has been fixed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069
Your waking up problem could be an faulty radio side-effect, it thinks it is receiving a call or sms and wakes up.
The most reliable radio rom right now is 2.61.21. You can upgrade to that without losing any data, and it fixes all call and sms, BT and Wifi issues. I applied that to a Jester's WM5 and solved all my problems plus got a better battery life.
Hello,
I have three Polaris (O2 XDA Orbit 2) here that crash randomly.
a) Sometimes they just refuse to wake up pressing power. Screen stays black, right green network LED blinks normally (as if phone is registered correctly) but the phone is NOT reachable, the mailbox answers the call
b) the device resets and reboots without any obvious reason...
the mentioned problems occur once in 1 or 2 days, not really reproducible...
Does anybody have the same behaviour? Is it a problem of installed Software?
Additional Software installed:
AvantGo
GoogleMaps
TrendMicro Office Scan
PocketCM Contacts 0.19b
Memmaid
Sprite Backup
Resco Explorer 2007, FTP, Registry
WakeUp Tweak
Calendar+
Advanced Config 2.1
TomTom 6
Battery Status Plugin + Clock
What kind of configuration you did with the Advanced Config 2.1?? the others applications are on my phone too, except Battery Status Plugin + Clock and WakeUp Tweak
is there any option to export the config? Its hard to type everything...
WakeUp Tweak is necessary for Alarm Bug prevention (IMHO) and does only set 2 reg keys AFAIK
nobody who has the same issue?
Can DirectPush can be the reason? I am connected with an SBS 2003 Exchange almost all the time...
Thx for an help,
Hmm... I have the same issues and im am using direct push as well. I am going to disable direct push for a few days to see if that will solve the problems...
One more thing. Apart from direct push we are both using resco explorer 2007 but I don´t think that this has something to do with the problems.
I would try to uninstall batterystatus had the issue too had to do hardreset.
The Bleedin' Obvious...
Apologies if this is just too damn obvious to be of any use, but on earlier XDA models I have had problems with poor connections on batteries, so I would check:
1. That your SIM is clean and properly seated - reseat if necessary
2. That your battery terminals are making good contact with no potential obstructions and that it latches properly when closed
3. Try removing, cleaning and reinserting any SD card you may have inserted
That should eliminate any hardware-based causes. The only other thing that I recall having caused problems in the past (on the Artemis) was battery status - especially it's behaviour on boot (and wake??). Might be worth removing it for a bit to see if it makes any difference.
Good luck...there's always return to manufacturer - you might just have a dodgy unit?
Hi, I have the same problem as you (the first one only).
Do you use push mail palmbluetooth? I am trying to test if it has something to do with direct push. I turned it off right after yesterdays post and had no black screen or reboot since. But well... It will take some more days to figure if direct push and these problems are related.
exactly the same problem.
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem of hazardous reboot.
I have a Cruise with the SFR (Vodaphone French) ROM.
I have see it live twice while my phone was on my table without having touch it.
I'll test this like you without 3G a few days and let you know.
hardware is not be the reason, although its worth to check. But it happens also if the unit is laying on the table without touching it at all...
batterystatus is NOT the reason, had reboots without it installed, can someone verify?
Resco Explorer 2007 is NOT the reason, had reboots without it installed, can someone verify?
Direct Push is the open issue to check. Without this enabled, I have a stable unit for 32 days but I'll try many more since this was not so often...
Any comments are appreciated but its definitely NOT a faulty unit since all three of mine have the same issue. Faulty firmware? Faulty OS ;-)
CU
do you have bandswitch installed?
your is a software installed problem mate!
Report here all software installed, bye
Still no reboot or hang since disabling direct push... I did not change something else and had reboots or hangs nearly every day. Would be great to know if it is really direct push/active sync...
same with my device, I think DirectPush is the reason. Can somebody else confirm?
You guys mean to tell me that direct push, which is built into the OS and is a major component of AS on the device for years doesn't work? Come on now. I refuse to believe it. If it truly caused instability like you guys say, that would be an even BIGGER issue than the lack of video drivers!
If anything, there must a software conflict going on that is causing the instability. As a true test, try hard resetting and without installing anything, turn on AS push. Wait a day and let us know what happens.
I'll be getting my TC tomorrow and loading it up to the hilt, including setting it up for my 4smartphone account.
Well... It may sound strange but I really start to belive that this is a direct push issue. I did not have these reboots and hangs right from the start and thought about what I have done before getting the problems. I uninstalled a lot of software and nothing changed. After reading the post of avoigt about direct push I remembered that I did enable this right before the issues started. On the other hand I would not bet all my money that it is really direct push causing the problems but it is the No.1 candidate now.
I am not willing to do a hard reset right now and test just direct push course I need some of the installed components for my working days. I hope someone else is able to test that. I would even offer my exchange server for testing...
Exactly the same problem (Polaris hangs or reboots) several times a day. Removed Direct Push and have not had a problem in three days. I set the schedule in ActiveSync to every five minutes. Also changed the GPRS connection to "Always on".
Same problem!!
My Polaris just cuts completely off a few times a day or screen goes black and can't awaken it. It was working fine for weeks and just started doing this.
I do have bandswitch installed and I do not use direct push.
EDIT: When I push on the battery it turns off. I hope its the battery and not the contacts.
Hi, same problem here.
The original version was the french ROM, and it worked for a week without any problem. (I have the phone for only one week). Last night I flashed it with a english version, and installed only 2 programs, skype and core player.
Facts:
1. if the phone is usb connected with the computer, it doesn't turn off.
2. if the phone is going in power save mode automatically refuses to turn back on by pressing the power button. It's like the display is disabled. If I call my number when is down like this, from the phone that I am calling from I can here the call, but the HTC doesn't ring.
3. it goes off after about 2 minutes if is innactive, and I can turn it back on only by reset. If I am using the phone (playing, browsing, etc.) it doesn't turn off.
I guess it's a soft problem. (but then again, I'm just a beginner user with this phone)
Does anyone has a solution for this?
Thanks