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Using slide-out keyboard for smartdialing

As I am using my Wizard open in horizontal position in my brodit car-holder I would like to know if it is possible to use the hardware keyboard (instead of the on-screen soft keypad) in the dialer screen using the smartdial options.
Also is there a hack that keeps the hardware keyboard light on when the device in on charge?

I don't see why not - just use the number row of keys (QWERTYUIOP - no need for the dot key) to type any numbers, and use the arrow keys (bottom-right) to select from the smart dialing list, and the enter/return key to select.
As for the backlight - SOL until somebody figures out where that's controlled, I'm afraid.

maybe I was not clear enough, I would like to use the whole slide-out keyboard.
ie. when i want to dial John i would just type j o h n (whereas on the on-screen keypad i would type 5 6 4 6)
When driving using the slide-out keyboard gives me more confidence when dialing (on my Himalaya the on-screen dialpad was bigger which made i better useable without a stylus)

I know what you mean. The phone apps doesnt support hard keyboard. Try clicking contacts and type on the hard keyboard the name in contacts. then dial from there. hope this helps.

well, you could still type 5646 - and it'll still go to 'John'
But I understand what you mean now - does seem silly. The contacts suggestion sounds good, but ideally maybe get one of those phone front-end replacements.
As for the buttons - they're fairly large here.. large enough for touching with fingertips anyway. Does your Wizard have some customization cab making the keys small, maybe? or am I underestimating the size of your fingers?

underestimating the size of your fingers!

Use Microsoft Voice Command instead
I tried the trial version of MS Voice Command v1.5 on my Cingular 8125 (aka Wizard) and it is just fabulous. No voice training needed. I tried the registry hack to use the BT headset to to take the voice command just couple of hours back. Need to check how well the 8KHz sampling of the BT works with the 16KHz sampling based algo in VC. You can really be hands-free with this s/w. Amazing!

Remapping D-Pad while on Phone screens

I've been searching for a while for a re-mapper/utility that will remap the d-pad to move around the numbers while on the Phone screen. Currently the D-pad does nothing while you're in the Phone dialing or call screen. It would make the Wiz into a great one-handed device if I can get the D-pad to move around the on-screen numbers pad. The center button can emulate pressing of the on-screen numbers. This way I can use one hand to enter the phone number and not having to use use my hands or the stylus while on-the-go.
I know I can slide out the keyboard but are you able to slide the KB out with 1 hand and use the number keys? I tried and it's VERY awkward and you'll have to remember to press the dot twice to enable the numbers. I'd rather not do that in a time of emergency.
Any one has tried to make this happen? Is there an app out there which will do this? This plus smartkeys/smallmenu will make the Wiz the ultimate one-handed device.

Anyone? am I the only one with a Wiz wishing for this function? I guess people like touching the screen with their hands more than I thought...

I would really be interested in something that could achieve this. I have my K-JAM in a PDAir case and being able to simply dial numbers with the keypad would be great. Rather than scroll through the contact list or opening the cover to access the keypad.

On Himalaya the D-pad had function in the dialer to get to call history and speed dial. That would help too.

edsub said:
On Himalaya the D-pad had function in the dialer to get to call history and speed dial. That would help too.
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That's the functionality I'd love to see too!

Would be nice!

remap of D-pad
can somone helps? It would be excelent - like D-pad of MDAC

Zathras said:
edsub said:
On Himalaya the D-pad had function in the dialer to get to call history and speed dial. That would help too.
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That's the functionality I'd love to see too!
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I want that too!! Like was in my Magician...

hi all,
A cool Japanese Freeware called FakeCursor does this. It doesn't tab between fields, but emulates a Dpad controlled 'mouse'.
There is a program called AEKmap that allows you to remap the keyboard.
I have attached several layouts I made for the Phone and Calculator for use with AEKmap. (2 of the layouts work in AEKmap free mode, the other 6 require $20 activation to avoid NAG screen.)
Joeman
btw on my qtek9100 the keyboard is automatically in number mode while in the phone application. I don't need to push the blue dot twice.

I'd just as soon se a remapper that brought back the WM 2003SE phone functionality (right - Call Histtoey, left - Speed dial, etc.)
It's a shame M$ took that out in WM5

*One WM5 developer*
"I got an idea. Let's make our new phones LESS functional. That'll give us a leg up on the competition."
*Everyone else there*
"BRILLIANT!!!"
:roll:

Did anyone create an aek file for mapping the alfa keys of the hardware k/b to the phonepad values.
ie: pressing a, b or c generates the code that is recognized by smartdialer (and interpreted as a, b or c respectively)
This way we can use the h/w keyboard letter-keys in the smartdialer!
This is especially handy when youre using the Wizard in your car in the landscape brodit holder (on-screen 'keys' are simply too small to be used safely)

it would be very cool.
wonder if Water can extend SmartyKeys for that - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060

Did anyone create an aek file for mapping the alfa keys of the hardware k/b to the phonepad values.
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Try This...

OffBeatMammal said:
it would be very cool.
wonder if Water can extend SmartyKeys for that - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060
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download version 0.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=250911

that man is a genius!

Texting on the P3600

Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks

Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing

TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.

I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...

Hi
i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?

Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?

Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455

SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
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Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?

tjw2007 said:
Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.

ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.

Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.

Keyboards

I have had a good look around and search and tried and tried, but I can't find the keyboard I used to use. It's just like the standard HTC keyboard, except with numbers along the top row. If anyone could point it one out, I think it was in Hellonasty Mary rom?, I loved it, didn't keep having to hit the pesky "123" button when I needed numbers.
(like the one in the attachment, but the one I had and want was not coloured blue, it was just clear)
Cheers in advance
Pugzi

It's the resco pro keyboard.

does anybody have the keyboard plug-in that lets you type like a regular number pad? the keyboard is really hard to type if you have fat fingers

you can use this
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2180706&postcount=1

Pugzi said:
I have had a good look around and search and tried and tried, but I can't find the keyboard I used to use. It's just like the standard HTC keyboard, except with numbers along the top row. If anyone could point it one out, I think it was in Hellonasty Mary rom?, I loved it, didn't keep having to hit the pesky "123" button when I needed numbers.
(like the one in the attachment, but the one I had and want was not coloured blue, it was just clear)
Cheers in advance
Pugzi
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with the keyboard you have now try this .. press the arrow to select SIP go to option and choose smal keys insted of large keys

Typing in names to bring up phone contacts

My last winmobile device (treo 750) allowed me to just start typing on the qwerty keyboard to get to contact I might want to phone.
On the htc hd2 if I press the phone button I can start typing in the name on a numeric keypad. So if I want to call Aaron I need to press 2,2,7,6,6.
Is there no way I can choose to type on a querty keyboard so i can just type Aaron.
There is a slightly clumsy way of doing this by going into contacts, choosing keyboard and then typing but it is a much slower process. Are there any other ways of doing this?

richardvadon said:
My last winmobile device (treo 750) allowed me to just start typing on the qwerty keyboard to get to contact I might want to phone.
On the htc hd2 if I press the phone button I can start typing in the name on a numeric keypad. So if I want to call Aaron I need to press 2,2,7,6,6.
Is there no way I can choose to type on a querty keyboard so i can just type Aaron.
There is a slightly clumsy way of doing this by going into contacts, choosing keyboard and then typing but it is a much slower process. Are there any other ways of doing this?
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Nope - you can't change it (unless you find a 3rd party dialer that does what you want). How would you dial a number if you had a qwerty keyboard?

I must say I hardly ever had to and if I did I would either create a contact or use the on-screen keyboard.
It is just wrong having to type a word on a numeric keypad.
Are there 3rd party dialers? Would it still act this way if you removed sense?

richardvadon said:
I must say I hardly ever had to and if I did I would either create a contact or use the on-screen keyboard.
It is just wrong having to type a word on a numeric keypad.
Are there 3rd party dialers? Would it still act this way if you removed sense?
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Yes, there are 3rd party dialers (you'll have to search to find them), but I've never heard of one like you're asking for. And yes, turning off Sense would have no effect.

This is annoying.
Are software developers geeks that don't have an idea of usability?
With my last WM phone I've dialed 3 times faster.
But someone think I need to do more finger exercise.
Ridiculous.

cinciberlandia said:
This is annoying.
Are software developers geeks that don't have an idea of usability?
With my last WM phone I've dialed 3 times faster.
But someone think I need to do more finger exercise.
Ridiculous.
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Eh? Dialers should be numbers. Simple.

Just to inform that it's working again with the last rom.