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How to disconnect the "Always On' GPRS in WM2003

Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
1. Does it consume extra battery life if the GPRS is alawys on?
2. When I'm connected but not actively doing anything (upload/download), does the device keep communicating with the service provider? i.e. sending control information back and forth even when i am actively not using it?
3. If the GPRS connection is active, are there any chances my phone reception or the phone's ability to get a phone call/SMS/MMS is adversely affected? I dont want people not to be able to contact me or send sms/mms because my phone is always connected on GPRS.
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.

1 yes like your phone use more power when you speak in your phone it use lot more power then not using it
2 a bit not too much
3 it should not
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features

humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff

humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff

Mind you, I use an MDA I.
as far as I know, the only way to get off and stay off GPRS is to go to settings->system->memmory->running programs and close anything that might use it (mailbox, IE, etc...)
If the signal indicator says it's connected to GPRS, then yes, you are actively connected to the tower/cell network. Sending info constantly, I don't know?????
GPRS effecting other network connectiveity???? I've heard yay and nay and have no professional opinion. Personally, I have no problems recieving a call, sms, etc... while connected to GPRS.
As far as power consumption, I would assume yes, it sucks up power. I have noticed about a 15% increase in power consumption using the web for an hour or so per day as well as automaticly checking email once every 45 minutes.
I also recently discovered a beautiful little prog that I cooked into my MDA I OS. PocketNav. It allows you to switch programs, close certain ones with only two "clicks", or all the progs at once, etc.... Check it out!!! It will be worth your time (I don't know where to get it other than stephan's kitchen).
Good luck!

gsm and sms should disable grps while it's using the band
but not cause problems
there is also the program PHM task manager
which is pretty much a copy of the task manager in windows 2k and xp so if people know and like that then it's a good program

Dustoff said:
humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff
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He Dustoff,
Great stuff! Worked fine for me. Thanks.
Ronald

Dustoff,
Where is the Red dsiconnect button I am supposed to press and hold?
I am using WM2003 and after Iam connected, i havent been able to find any place where there is any disconnect option. in the connection bubble all i can see is that i am "connected" but there is nowhere for me to disconnect.
Can you please let me know where you find this disconnect option.
thanks

Red disconnect button
It is simply the red button of the telephone.
On another hand, if someone calls you exactly in the same moment when yours GPRS is fully active downloading something (a big picture, a long message, ...), you may appear as "unavailable"

Rudegar said:
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features
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Hi.
I have not tried the above software yet, but here is the problem I have...
I use Wi-Fi a lot at home and quite often keep the Wi-Fi on and use WiFiFoFum away from home. I have managed to set up my pay as you go GPRS connection. But whenever I'm away from a Wi-Fi network the GPRS connects and my applications then access the internet.
There needs to be an option of "not connecting gprs automatically when there is no Wi-Fi connection."
What I have had to do is change one of the setting for the gprs so it cant connect, and I have to change it back when I need it.
Switching from Wi-Fi to gprs can cost a lot if things connect without me knowing. It costs £3 for a months use of 1Mb.
Regards,
Ian Watson

creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.

I think holding down the HANGUP/STOP button for 2-3 seconds is the fastest and easiest way.

interestingfellow said:
creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.
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I have found where I can stop it from connecting the GPRS if it cant get a wi-fi conncetion. Connections icon on the connections tab, then the advanced tab, then the select networks button - "programs that automaticall connect to the internet..........". I have changed this from gprs to my isp.
Ian

Disabling 3G/Gprs

Hi all,
I have a limited data plan on my tytn for GPRS so I tried to use my neighbours wifi connection but. I can connect ( since it is not secured) but when I click on my internet explorer then it connects via my gprs how do I prevent it and make it wok only from my wifi? Help!!!
Thanks

Delete the connection in Connections.

grassroot04 said:
Delete the connection in Connections.
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WTF ?!
Just keep the Red button (hang off) ~3 seconds. It will cancel the DATA connection. Then you'll be able to surf over wifi.
Same procedure with messenger in case of you want it working through Wi-fi instead of DATA/GSM/3G connection

Kayser said:
WTF ?!
Just keep the Red button (hang off) ~3 seconds. It will cancel the DATA connection. Then you'll be able to surf over wifi.
Same procedure with messenger in case of you want it working through Wi-fi instead of DATA/GSM/3G connection
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I've tryed this method but messenger always trys to reconect using the data connection even when wifi is connected....am I missing something ???
Edit: just me being thick.......closed Messenger ....hung up data connection <red buton> .... powered up wifi.....reconnected messenger......hey presto messenger without 3G data connection....
unit powered of when it came back on bloody 3G connection kicked in again lol

jb2001 said:
I've tryed this method but messenger always trys to reconect using the data connection even when wifi is connected....am I missing something ???
Edit: just me being thick.......closed Messenger ....hung up data connection <red buton> .... powered up wifi.....reconnected messenger......hey presto messenger without 3G data connection....
unit powered of when it came back on bloody 3G connection kicked in again lol
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Well:
- start your wifi and connect it
- then you'll start messenger and connect
- it will try to start a data connection
- press red button quickly to stop it
- then messenger will use the Wi-Fi active connection.
This is how i proceed.
Regards

Use MoDaCo's NoData when you dont want any grps data, turn it off when you do

thanks
Thanks guys yes all of your advice kind of worked. Even though the MSN messenger is a big pain in the butt, it is always trying to connect itself. And to free my ram if I try to stop it running, the program restarts itself.

you coud try also placing device in flight mode - this will allow connections via wifi

GPRS connecting question

I have noticed that when I am turning off my WIFI connection and I forgot to turn off Opera the phone starts connecting via GPRS. Since I don't have a limitless data plan I would like to get a question before connecting to GPRS. Is there a way to do this?
/nikolai

Ditto.
I've tried creating a 'dummy' connection and it'll happily say the default network is 'dummy'... And then connect via Orange WAP. I'm tearing my hair out... :/

namdlaw said:
I have noticed that when I am turning off my WIFI connection and I forgot to turn off Opera the phone starts connecting via GPRS. Since I don't have a limitless data plan I would like to get a question before connecting to GPRS. Is there a way to do this?
/nikolai
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I am suffering on the same problem too... Just got my HD today, need help please....

I used the HD tweak software and it can disable the GPRS!!
http://montecristoff.webs.com/index.htm

Block 3G and GPRS when Wifi is on

Is it possible to never activate 3G or GPRS when I have WIFI on, (when I´m surfing for eample) regardless if I´m connected to a network or not?
It´s cost me a lot of money when I surf on the 3G.. So it´s not necessary when I´m close to a WIFI-network..
Regards!

My HD (a stock one) always automatically use Wifi when it's available, and 3G/GPRS otherwise. I got this behavior from day one, without any specific tweak.

Mine still uses GPRS or HSDPA sometimes when I am connected to wifi. Doesn't bother me though as I have unlimited web on my contract... I think its a bug

why not turn of the data when your at home or what not? Its in the communications settings... that might help? temp fix but better than nothing.

Cheeze[iT] said:
why not turn of the data when your at home or what not? Its in the communications settings... that might help? temp fix but better than nothing.
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If I do that, it just turns it back on! I think it is because it is continuously checking for email...

Coude said:
My HD (a stock one) always automatically use Wifi when it's available, and 3G/GPRS otherwise. I got this behavior from day one, without any specific tweak.
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Same here.

Coude said:
My HD (a stock one) always automatically use Wifi when it's available, and 3G/GPRS otherwise. I got this behavior from day one, without any specific tweak.
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have you actually checked this with an app like spb gprs monitor?

When using Opera, I have to disconnect GPRS/EDGE in order for it to use WiFi. Internet Explorer seems to use the WiFi automatically when it is connected.

How to make wifi the default option to connect instead of gprs?

How do I disable the phone from auto connecting to gprs? I tried testing it by launching opera without switching on wifi. The phone still connects through gprs although I turn data connection off. It will turn data connection on by itself. Even when I switch wifi on and want it to connect through wifi instead, it is still connecting through gprs. How do i solve this?

When wifi is "connected" (not only "on"), it uses wifi, no dataconnection.
If you really don't want a dataconnection, use something like NoData...

i tried NoData but it's not working. i'm using official htc wm6.5 rom.

Sorry I cannot be more precise because I don't use it anymore, but I remember there was an option to block data connection in HDTweak. Is that you want? Block dataconnection permanently? If so, you could alternatively delete your mobile operator connection in Settings/Connections. If anyone knows the registry changes involved in this,please post them so that I can make a .cab, I need it when roaming.

try MWLongLife! It's magic
this program is developed for saving battrey life by controlling 3G/2G network and data usage
you can set each program which need data access by 3G, WiFi, USB, etc.
Also, force to use Wifi rather than gprs if it's available.

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I tried installing nodata again and it worked this time.

for those interested there's also a cab to disable push internet completely (think that was the origin of your problem).
Search the forum on NoPushInternet

336663 said:
try MWLongLife! It's magic
this program is developed for saving battrey life by controlling 3G/2G network and data usage
you can set each program which need data access by 3G, WiFi, USB, etc.
Also, force to use Wifi rather than gprs if it's available.
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Any link to this? didn't find anything around

sualc said:
Any link to this? didn't find anything around
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Yes please... I was about to post the same issue. I think the precedence in WM6.5 of using mobile wireless over WiFi is the wrong way around if the WiFi signal is strong. In my house, my WiFi is strong everywhere but 3G comes and goes. It's darn annoying to get the message about "No connectivity" when I know for sure there is a very good WiFi signal.
Cheers, Rob.
PS. Just had it whilst writing this email - "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device..."

It's "WM" not "MW".
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-wmlonglife.html

That's much better!! thanks fighter7139, gonna try right now!