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Slow Call Pickup Solution

I have been reading here that almost all of us are having to deal with a rather annoying lag when receiving an incoming voice call. As per a previous post and suggestion by "dherrero"...
<<I had the same problem and now is solved.
In phone/options/band select WCDMA (not automatic)>>
...I have changed the band setting to WCDMA, which is the 3G cellular network instead of the allied 2G GSM standard and I can report that my phone now rings instantly and the pickup button also works right away! Of course not all areas have UMTS (3G) coverage, but when you see the little "U" next to the signal strength, then normally you are in a WCDMA zone and this should then work. I am using the latest QTek ROM, should any of you be curious about this.
If anybody can report having success with the above as well, we would be able to more easily confirm this as a fix and not me and dherrero having a "one-off" success at solving this problem.

Ok, I'll give it a go, but what happens when you're not in 3G coverage?
EDIT: checked, no difference :evil:

Might just be me, but I found assigning a ringtone to a contact sped up the phone ringing.
I only have ~250 contacts though

fslunatic said:
I have been reading here that almost all of us are having to deal with a rather annoying lag when receiving an incoming voice call. As per a previous post and suggestion by "dherrero"...
<<I had the same problem and now is solved.
In phone/options/band select WCDMA (not automatic)>>
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shot boet - I havent come across the problem but I will keep that in mind. I always take auto-cell selection off too, not sure if it helps but I dont want my phone hunting around for other networks.

This has been tested by members on Modaco, and after it seemed it worked intially, it seems, that it is NOT a fix.

HSPDA Confusion!

Hi everyone,
It's my first post here - most likely not to be my last. Oh, and i know i spelt HSDPA wrong in the title!
I very very recently (yesterday in fact) managed to get hold of my T-Mobile Hermes (one of the .37 batch) and am having no problems whatsoever with the phone, the only problem i am having is getting any web download speeds faster than around 40kbps?
I phoned T-Mobile yesterday and after being on hold twice and explaining myself many times i think i got HSDPA enabled as the lady (who was very nice) said she promises it has been enabled for me. I tried half hour later and sure enough, i used www.dslreports.com/mspeed and could now download at around 800kbps - perfect! Unfortunately i tried again this morning and it says 40kbps again
Is there any way to tell whether HSDPA has been enabled on my phone before i call T-Mobile again? Does HSDPA just run over 3G? I haven't got a brilliant signal where i am - usually 1 or 2 bars, could this be what is affecting my download speed? I need some help!

Just realised i have spelt HSDPA wrong in the thread title - never mind! Can anyone help?

Have you read this dude?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276154&page=5
Theres a couple of files you can check you have i believe, also the Fit4cat program is worth downloading.

40kbps is GPRS data speed. Even without HSDPA you should get 300kbps on UMTS.
Your phone will show a U or a G depending on which network you are on.

It shows a "G" all the time in a little white block next to the signal bar, and sometimes the signal bar shows an antenna and sometimes a "G" also - does that mean when im on the "G" ill be on HSDPA and when im on the antenna (if i cant get 3G) ill be on GPRS 40kbps?
If so that makes a lot of sense as the signal is not brilliant round here, i went shopping in a much bigger town this afternoon and tested again -> full signal and downloading at around 1200kbps! Obviously it is enabled, think its just down to my signal....
Does that sound about right?

RTFM, the G is for GSM ie data will be GPRS.
You will either have a 3G or U depending on what ROM you're running for 3G/UMTS/HSDPA .

I'll be honest i only got half way through the quick start guide before i started playing with it. So, if my phone is always on "G" i'll assume i need to try and unlock it using the fit4cat thing? As T-Mobile have said they have enabled HSDPA on my account?
How did i get 1200kbps on GPRS by the way? It definately said "G" when i was connected and did the speed test...?!

I just ran the fit4cat Hermes tweaker and still no luck, it only connects to "G" rather than "3G", 3G is apparently available in this area so why does it only connect to G? Im confused and would really appreciate some advice...

Well if you probably didn't notice the U (or whatever) when you got 1mbps once it. This means that HSDPA is enabled on your phone and SIM.
The fit4cat tweaker only (dis)enables HSDPA but that isn't an issue because even without HSDPA you would be getting UMTS speeds.
One thing you could try is. Go to Start->Settings->Phone->Band set GSM/UTMS to GSM900+1800 + UMTS2100
You could also try a manual search for networks from Start->Settings->Phone->Networks->Find Network
Finally you can also disable GSM totaly using network type in the band selection and see if you get a steady 3G signal.

Thanks for your suggestions, here are my findings:
kevino said:
Well if you probably didn't notice the U (or whatever) when you got 1mbps once it. This means that HSDPA is enabled on your phone and SIM.
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Good point, i have a long drive home tonight so will check when going through built up areas to see if it connects to 3G or U then.
kevino said:
One thing you could try is. Go to Start->Settings->Phone->Band set GSM/UTMS to GSM900+1800 + UMTS2100
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Tried this, and phone disconnected then reconnected but still said "G" when connecting to Internet. Set back to "Auto".
kevino said:
You could also try a manual search for networks from Start->Settings->Phone->Networks->Find Network
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Did this also, it pops up with the message "Registering on the network" and disappears and thats it, nothing happens.
kevino said:
Finally you can also disable GSM totaly using network type in the band selection and see if you get a steady 3G signal.
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I cannot find an option to disable GSM in the Band tab, i have the following:
Select your network type.
__Auto
__GSM
Select your GSM/UMTS band.
__GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
__GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
and thats about it. Cannot find anything that would let me not use GSM whatsoever? I appreciate your help so far

It may be the case that your reception for 3G just isnt adequate enough to work where you live, O2 states there is reception in the area where i live but i only tend to get UMTS upstairs....just one of those things....here at uni i get FULL UMTS reception anywhere.

richieboy said:
I cannot find an option to disable GSM in the Band tab, i have the following:
Select your network type.
__Auto
__GSM
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In the dopod ROM it has a WCDMA option too. No big deal !
Seting the band was just so that the phone doesn't bother looking for bands that are not available in this country. To try and encourage it to check the correct UMTS band more quickly.
My suggestion to use find network (you need to select manual search) in Networks wasn't too helpful anyway as it doesn't list the band. So no use unless you can disable GSM.
Of course you may have got a spurious speed test result. How old is your SIM? It needs to be a USIM

Yes firstly is your SIM card a USIM....or is it a SIM card from an old handset?? I think youve already said you have had the 'U' appear on your TyTN at some point.....so again im going with the assumption you just dont have adequate UMTS reception for it to work....hence why you are only seeing 'G'.

So, funny story...
It seems where i was over the weekend (girlfriends) is borderline, so as mentioned aboved i can get 3G upstairs but not downstairs - i decided to drive around and got 3G all over the place...the best news is i get 2/3 bars of 3G at home too!
Problem solved, im an idiot - but hey, it doesn't hurt to ask right?
680kbps! Woo

richieboy said:
So, funny story...
It seems where i was over the weekend (girlfriends) is borderline, so as mentioned aboved i can get 3G upstairs but not downstairs - i decided to drive around and got 3G all over the place...the best news is i get 2/3 bars of 3G at home too!
Problem solved, im an idiot - but hey, it doesn't hurt to ask right?
680kbps! Woo
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girlfrends! Woo

Disable UMTS

Does someone know how to disable UMTS for the Trinity?
I've searched on the forum but I couldn't find any good solutions

Settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Band -> Select your network type -> GSM.

Try this...
http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html

bonisalive said:
Try this...
http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html
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I use this Bandwith app also. However, if you really want to turn off HSDPA and leave on 3G permanently you can use the app on this page called HTweakC http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
I turn off HSDPA because it blocks incoming calls (my carrier's problem). I can receive calls normally with 3G.

Thank you for that Band Tool. I'm a little confused by something, though. Does it save battery life to disable UMTS? I don't need any 3G functionality at all currently, so does it make battery sense to disable UMTS?
Thanks very much.

WilliamG said:
Thank you for that Band Tool. I'm a little confused by something, though. Does it save battery life to disable UMTS? I don't need any 3G functionality at all currently, so does it make battery sense to disable UMTS?
Thanks very much.
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I beleive that it will. UTMS drains the battery quicker as the phone searches for cells more frequently than it does on GSM

korben said:
I beleive that it will. UTMS drains the battery quicker as the phone searches for cells more frequently than it does on GSM
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Thank you. Is there a way to make the Band Tool work every time you turn the phone on? If I turn my phone off and on, the tool resets and I'm back to 3G mode.
Thanks again.

Check out Trinityhacks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300783&highlight=trinityhacks

korben said:
Check out Trinityhacks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300783&highlight=trinityhacks
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Thanks again for the reply. I installed TrinityHacks, but it's a little confusing with the whole band selection. I see auto, or GSM+UMTS selections. I don't see a GSM without UMTS. Did I miss something?

Bandswitch settings should persist through a soft reset- mine certainly do. Make sure you leave anough time for the registry changes to save before exiting the program, or doing a soft reset.
UMTS typically uses 3x the current that GSM uses as 3G is a much weaker signal. so the gain needs to be much higher. And in marginal reception areas, the constant hunting between bands further hits the battery

NeilM said:
Bandswitch settings should persist through a soft reset- mine certainly do. Make sure you leave anough time for the registry changes to save before exiting the program, or doing a soft reset.
UMTS typically uses 3x the current that GSM uses as 3G is a much weaker signal. so the gain needs to be much higher. And in marginal reception areas, the constant hunting between bands further hits the battery
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Well I find it all bit a confusing! Gah! I uninstalled that Band Utility, and installed the Trinity Hacks. Not sure what setting to use to make sure it's 2G. Am I correct in assuming that G at the top of the screen means 2G, and 3G = 3G?

Yes
G=GSM; 3G or U = UMTS; H= HSDPA, (but only shows during data exchange)

Ah ok thanks for that! I think something got messed up, because before it would say 3G at the top of the screen, and my network was identified as UMTS Vodafone. Then I installed that Band Utility and switched to GSM only. Then I uninstalled that Band utility while I was on GSM only. So now I'm stuck on GSM, even when switching UMTS on in the Trinity Hack program. I'm so confused now.

Have you tried Phone/Menu/Options/Band and setting the top box to Auto?

NeilM said:
Have you tried Phone/Menu/Options/Band and setting the top box to Auto?
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Yes, it's on Auto right now. I don't even see the *specific* GSM-only setting. Maybe Trinity Hacks doesn't have this feature?
*AH I got it*. I reinstalled Band Switch, put it back to Auto (so 3G worked again), and then uninstalled it. Trinity Hacks now works!
Thanks for the help!

Problem in making calls

The Band on my Polaris is set for Auto in both Network Type ans GSM/UMTS band. Normally I see a "H" along with my signal bar. During this time the phone works perfectly.
Everytime the band changes to "G" or "E" I cannot make any calls. The signal will show 3 or 4 bars, but every call I make it ends immediately.
I have to wait for the band to come back to "H" before I can make a call. I havent had any issues with the phone otherwise. The only software installed extra is PI8.
Anyone face similar problems or is this a known bug that can be / has been resolved.

go start>settings>connectios>hsdpa and disable it.i have the same problem, with my signal...and still have it.

Hi, i have the same Problem, but not from the beginning. has somebody an idea how to solve the problem, or why it occurs?

bikiapo said:
go start>settings>connectios>hsdpa and disable it.i have the same problem, with my signal...and still have it.
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Thanks for the tip. Did that and it seems to work ok even if the logo changes between "G" and "3G".
Still looking to any solution so that HSDPA can be used.

Help!! Turn off 3G or Edge on touch 3g

I got a new HTC touch 3g from Asia and have frustrating problem. On ATT network in US, when the call network switches between 3G and Edge the phone network becomes zero ( no bars) and the calls drop.
This is extremely annoying as the ATT network continuously changes from 3g and edge when driving/walking. Is there anyway to switch off 3g/edge because I don't have a data plan and I don't use the phone for internet.
Or is there a way to force it to be only edge?
Any help would be great!

do a search for nodata.cab, it's originally form the Modaco forum but i've seen it over here too, works great!

Thanks! Downloaded and changed the settings in nodata.
Any ideas how I can test that this works? I still see "E" next to the phone bars.
Thanks a lot.

I think this is no solution: NoData only stops data-connections and does not affect the connection-band that is used for communication with the base-stations of the network (for speaking and data). Your problem are the calls not the data connection that you do not use, IMO.
Try this: "Start/Settings/Telephone/Band" (translated from German). There you can preselect the Band(s) that is (are) used for communication globally.

Thanks. I don't have anything called "Band".
I tried using Bandswitch...has anyone tried it?

countdrakc said:
Thanks. I don't have anything called "Band".
I tried using Bandswitch...has anyone tried it?
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This sounds good, I do not know the exact English nomenclature because I have a German version. What type of network is displayed next to phone bars now?

MvBoe said:
I think this is no solution: NoData only stops data-connections and does not affect the connection-band that is used for communication with the base-stations of the network (for speaking and data). Your problem are the calls not the data connection that you do not use, IMO.
Try this: "Start/Settings/Telephone/Band" (translated from German). There you can preselect the Band(s) that is (are) used for communication globally.
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You're right! i was mislead by the question (how to turn of 3G or Edge).