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I am one of those users that is having trouble connecting to GPRS more than once and getting the "unknown reason" problem. Only a soft reset or turn on/off flight mode will fix it. Well I found out what is causing this, at least for my device. I am running Wisbar Advance on mine and is what causing the problem. Once I closed the app, I can connect/disconnect GPRS as I please. I made calls in between also and it still works...
The developer for Wisbar is working on this issue so hopefully he will get this fixed. In the meantime, I have turned off Wisbar..
Hope this is what causing u guys' devices also.
Great info! Just a heads up. I had this problem since I upgraded to the 1.06 ROM however I have never installed Wizbar Advance. The only thing that I could get to fix it was upgrading to the Norwegian 1.11 ROM version or using the 1.10 US Radio stack. Even the Finish 1.11 did not fix the problem.
-Mashie
I have the problem and I'm not using Wisbar. I guess magician_os1.11wwe_bigstorage_6.zip is based on the Finnish ROM?
You can add another application to the list of problem apps (at least this worked for me)
Sygic .mobile contacts seems to mess up GPRS as well.
I've been using the 1.06 WWE rom, and i tried anasky's 1.11 bigstorage rom, and both times, with .mobile contacts installed, i received the "cannot connect for an unknown reason" error, after uninstalling it, GPRS reconnects fine everytime.
Hope this helps some of you.
i changed my sim card to a new one and now i don't get that error. plus i believe that part of that error is the service provider.
hope that helps
I have Qtek 1.11 and same problem too
It is a real pain, I do not have Wisbar, and I can only connect once then need a reset. Any ideas out there?
One cheap solution is to put the phone in flight mode and then go back to reset the GPRS. Not very smooth, but at least better than having to soft reset.
Loboman said:
One cheap solution is to put the phone in flight mode and then go back to reset the GPRS. Not very smooth, but at least better than having to soft reset.
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I have tried to turn flight modem on/off but i still get the error
"dialed:isplnk1.swip.net. The answering modem has disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings"
Does ne1 know what I can do? so I can use my gprs again. it worked fine just a day ago, and I havent done anythin at all that could cause this problem
I don' t have a magician but a blue angel.
I've got the same problem.
It's the last built of IA Caller ID.
I've make a hard reset with no IA Caller and no problem again.
just double check the settings to make sure that the access point name shows up in the number section of the connection settings, when its not there that can cause the answering modem problems
rgds
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I have 2 SIM Cards with the same number, one for the QTek 2020, and one for a Motorola mpx200.
If they are both switched on, then my GPRS is disconnected after about 15 minutes, and I can only reconnect by going in and out of flight mode.
If I switch the Motorola off, then I stay connected, and can disconnect
and reconnect properly.
Eddan said:
Loboman said:
One cheap solution is to put the phone in flight mode and then go back to reset the GPRS. Not very smooth, but at least better than having to soft reset.
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I have tried to turn flight modem on/off but i still get the error
"dialed:isplnk1.swip.net. The answering modem has disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings"
Does ne1 know what I can do? so I can use my gprs again. it worked fine just a day ago, and I havent done anythin at all that could cause this problem
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Never had that error message. Only the one hamsup1o was talking about. Is the Norwegian 1.11 Ananskyfied yet? I want to test if the problem is fixed in that one.
For me, I don't think it's any one piece of software. Since I upgraded my Jam last weekend to 1.11, it continually disconnects from GPRS. Soft resets may or may not correct the problem on the first try so a second reset is in order. Trying to turn Flight Mode On/Off is a chore in itself. I may need to tap "Turn Flight Mode On" several times before it finally does it. Even when GPRS is connected it will only last 5 minutes. Then while still connected, going to a different webpage, says that webpage cannot be found. Very freakin' frustrating!! :evil:
So, today at work I backed everything to SD and did a Hard Reset. I then cancelled out of the Operator settings, but allowed the other apps to install and soft reset. I manually added my data settings and connected. Within two minutes I lost my connection. Reset the device and couldn't connect. Reset again and it's fine. It's hit or miss. Restored from backup. Gave a MS Voice Command error so deleted that. Several resets later on the train ride home and it's been fine ever since, for now!
The question is, could this be a T-Mobile problem? I called them yesterday and all they could tell me is that data outages in the Boston area may occur in the evenings due to upgrades. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that I did the ROM upgrade and TMo is acting up. I'm pulling hairs here!!
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For me, I don't think it's any one piece of software. Since I upgraded my Jam last weekend to 1.11, it continually disconnects from GPRS. Soft resets may or may not correct the problem on the first try so a second reset is in order. Trying to turn Flight Mode On/Off is a chore in itself. I may need to tap "Turn Flight Mode On" several times before it finally does it. Even when GPRS is connected it will only last 5 minutes. Then while still connected, going to a different webpage, says that webpage cannot be found. Very freakin' frustrating!! :evil:
So, today at work I backed everything to SD and did a Hard Reset. I then cancelled out of the Operator settings, but allowed the other apps to install and soft reset. I manually added my data settings and connected. Within two minutes I lost my connection. Reset the device and couldn't connect. Reset again and it's fine. It's hit or miss. Restored from backup. Gave a MS Voice Command error so deleted that. Several resets later on the train ride home and it's been fine ever since, for now!
The question is, could this be a T-Mobile problem? I called them yesterday and all they could tell me is that data outages in the Boston area may occur in the evenings due to upgrades. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that I did the ROM upgrade and TMo is acting up. I'm pulling hairs here!!
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I have the exact same problem with my Jam on T-Mobile (in Colorado) however it seems to have gotten better with the 1.11 ROM. The strange thing is that it does not ever happen with my 6315 on T-Mobile. I have spoken with their customer services serveral times and we have tried a few different things. The last thing we tried was a brand new SIM card to remove that as a posible problem. Since doing that, I can stay connected to GPRS, take calls and it re-connects with out me doing anything and it seems to have helped.
I have not tried to see if there is any change between wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com. Which are you using?
I have the same problem with GPRS and the Cannot connect for an unknown reason. It initially connects fine, but if I disconnect it manually, I cannot reconnect without the soft reset. I started getting this error when I upgraded to 1.11WWE last night. I went back to Version 1.06WWE and the problem was gone so it is defiantely a ROM problem. Imate's Customer "Dis"-Service continues to timeout everytime I go online with them. I am in the process of trying the UK 1.11JAM Rom to see if that makes any difference. I am with T-Mobile USA.
On the Club I-mate forum there are people with this problem as well and one of them is on Cingular!!! So it's not carrier specific.
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I tried the UK 1.11 ROM and it worked a bit better. There was even a new tab in the GPRS bubble that you could click to disconnect the GPRS rather than holding down the red phone button. But alas, I still got the Cannot Connect for an unknown reason mesage. I'm going back to 1.06 (Thankfully I backed it up) It worked fine. Is anyone having this problem with the Anansky hacked ROM?
Also, why does the UK version come with Skype and the WWE version doesn't?
Could it be due to Activesync?
I too have the GPRS problem, usually it occurs after synchronizing with the PC. The flight mode trick fixes it. I can repeat this behavior and can always fix it, so it remains a nuisance...
Since you can access the internet through Activesync, maybe the OS stays locked in that mode and does not allow for GPRS to be a valid network connection...
Anybody else have similar symptoms?
Mashie, I use internet3.voicestream.com. As you said nothing seems to help.
chinadan, Yes! I had the exact same thing happen to me last night. I've been tinkering with my Jam for the last week trying to get it to work. Last night it was working fine, but then I connected it to my desktop to load PHM Registry and when I disconnected, GPRS started flaking out! Performing a soft reset didn't help.
I've been going back and forth with i-Mate CS, and it's obvious they know there's an issue. They seem to be getting a little testie since I'm basically telling them I'm not an idiot so please get the crap fixed! They had the nerve to send me instructions on how to setup a GPRS Connection on the Jam! :twisted: What nerve!
Anyway, think I'll try loading the worldwide 1.11WWE and see what happens. Anyone have a backup of 1.06 US 850 ROM?
Thanks and cheers!
Well, I went almost 24 hours without a GPRS problem on my JAM yesterday. I didn't get the usual "Cannot connect for an unknown reason" error message. This time I got a message saying that there was a problem with the modem???? I don't know where that one came from... changed my gprs setting to internet2.voicestream.com and it works now....until the next error message.
Screw it. I'm going back to 1.06. The JAM is VERY sluggish now and I can't even get it into flight mode to correct the problem. I guess I'll wait for the patch. (It seemslike we spend most of our time waiting for a patch or an update of some kind. ARGGGHH!)
ALso, I don't know if this was the case with the 1.06 ROM, but I used to have to hold down the red phone button for a few seconds to get the GPRS to disconnect. But with the 1.11UK rom all it takes is for you to click the red phone button and the connection is dropped. Example: If I'm on the Today Screen with GPRS connected, click the red phone button and voila, gprs is disconnected. Is this normal? I don't remember it disconnecting so easily with 1.06.
Also, saw this over on the HoFo: ___________________
New HTC Galaxy and Wizard to replace the Magician.
Got a hirizontal slide out keyboard. Same size as Magician. Black in colour. with 128mb ram, Wifi built in. Same size as Jam. With a 2.1mb camera (undecided maybe 1.2). Just saw the pictures, but it looks awesome. (I think it also had edge).
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Also, saw this over on the HoFo: ___________________
New HTC Galaxy and Wizard to replace the Magician.
Got a hirizontal slide out keyboard. Same size as Magician. Black in colour. with 128mb ram, Wifi built in. Same size as Jam. With a 2.1mb camera (undecided maybe 1.2). Just saw the pictures, but it looks awesome. (I think it also had edge).
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Any chance you give us a link to those pics? Pleaseeeeeeee :twisted:
Ok, been tinkering around this evening concerning the GPRS connection issues and this is what I have thus far. First, Club IMate has new Operator Settings on their website. One of their techs was kind enough to e-mail it to me this afternoon and checking their website this evening shows T-Mobile ver1.6. Applied those settings and it seemed to do a better job at installing my VPN settings for internet3.voicestream.com. However, when I checked the Connections screen it listed My Isp with my VPN connection and My Work Network was setup for wap.voicestream.com. Ok, nice but I don't use the wap settings. Connecting through IE to wap.yahoo.com resulted in the TMo Wap connection to launch, but not my VPN connection. So I went back into Connection settings and set both Work and Internet to "My ISP". Upon doing this and selecting any website from IE, it wouldn't connect and give me the error "Make sure you have your modem installed blah, blah, blah". If I then press and held on the "G" and tapped connect, it connected just fine.
So that got me thinking about the Registry again and why in the Connection screen for both Internet and Private network, why there was no option for "The Internet", or "My Secure WAP" so forth and so on. When I had my XDA IIs, those where options. So I loaded PHM Registry to the device and went exploring. The first thing I found and deleted was in: \HKLM\Software\HTC\WModem. I deleted the Preset GPRS key. The next thing I found where all the Interent settings I just mentioned in:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Destinations\. There is listed "The Interent" (which I tried to create myself in Connections but it said it already existed) and My Secure Wap plus others that I had made. So for starters I deleted "The Internet" key and reset the device.
Went back into Connections and created a new network called The Internet and added my connection to internet3. I then switched it to only look at The Internet network. Launching IE again and trying to go to wap.yahoo.com. Again, I get the "Unable to Connect: Ensure that your modems are presentand inserted correctly, and no network card present".
So obvioulsy, my edits to the Registry made little difference. So again that got me thinking. Why would their be a WAP connection when I selected T-Mobile VPN during the new cab installation? Because it needs it!
I then went back into the Network Management screen under connections and left it set to The Internet for programs that auto connect to the internet and set it to My Work Network for the private network option. Since doing this I've had no issues when any connection while browsing. If I go to a WAP site it automatically connects to T-Mobile WAP connection. If I then decide to go to a full blown HTTP website, it automatically stops the WAP connection and launches the VPN one. There is no delay when it does this, well, maybe a second! :lol:
My thinking is (and, I'm no programmer or Registry master!) that the problem lies in the Registry settings for IE. Perhaps it runs deeper than that but if one of you Guru's could take a look perhaps we can get this ironed out once and for all. Thanks for listening!
Hi guys,
ive had my exec for about 2 weeks now. In the last week it has started to randomly loose network signal. It keeps searching till you either soft reset it or turn flight mode on and off. It will find a signal in about 10 seconds after that.
Is this there a 'dont keep loosing signal' setting that im missing?!
Mine does the same thing - annoying as hell! Not worked it out yet.
Are you talking about telephone or GPRS signal ( U or G )
Phone signal
everything! it looses all signal.
I called o2 and they want me to go into an 02 shop for them to have a look at it before they give me a replacement
The are all 'handset trained' apparently.
I also called o2 a week ago stating the same problem, They gave me a refferance number and said they will look into it, But of corse 1 week later they have not called me, So this afternoon i will find the referance number and give them a call.
I will post ther Bollox answer on here tonight
John
Same problem here with a MDA Pro. I ahve noticed that this happens when I am roaming in Germany as well. Very anoying. That and the thing freezing in a call and needing a re-set. This is my second one as the first one the screen portion became loose, happened on the one before as well.
I have the same problem althoughmine will refind the signal after about a minute. It seems to disappear whenever I ask thephoneto do something new (open a program etc).
I finally persauded T-Mobile to exchange mine so I'm getting a new one delivered tomorrow.
I'll let you know if that fixes it!
Andy
My XDA2 used to lose its ability to communicate if I was out of a signal area for more than 15 minutes, but I haven't had it happen yet with the Exec. A soft reset or Flight Mode on/off cycle would fix it.
It is frustrating but didn't happen often.
Well i phoned o2 and they said there was still no answer and that no one else had complainded about this, So i told them of this forum......
As per the last post i have also had this on a 2 and 2i, and i gree if its out of servie for a few mins its seems to give up looking for service until you reset.
mine has done it overnight befor, i looked befor going to bed and it had just the 3 dots flashing where the aerial should be. the next morning it was still the same, quick soft rest and into full service, thats when i first rang o2
John
I've had this on all my XDAs in the past, and seems to continue with the Exec.
Very annoying, but not sure what can be done about it.
Ant
guys,
wait for a rom upgrade from o2, ( with new radio rom)
that should solve the problem.
happens with xda, xda2, skipped xda2-i and xda2-s,
and now it's back.. :roll:
Hi Guys, I have been having this problem for weeks with my MDA Pro. I convinced myself it wasn't the phone and that it was T-Mobiles Network. In desperation last night I spoke to T-Mobile about the problem. They told me it was a faulty phone and that I would have to contact the supplier of the phone and ask them to replace it. I tried to explain others had the problem and that I wasn't happy to have to send my phone off and wait for a replacement. But no avail. So I sat down at home and looked at the settings. I think I might of cured it! Maybe it is a fluke but by clicking the signal meter and going to settings, then changing network selection to manual it has stopped hunting when it loses signal and quickly re-picks it up. HNope this helps others.
Giles.
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changing network selection to manual it has stopped hunting when it loses signal and quickly re-picks it up. HNope this helps others.
Giles.
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Defenitely...that did it.
I had the same in Holland with KPN: while switched to manual no more problems.
In Romania however, where I also have UMTS, I had to switch it back (or it switched itselve back, after changing SIM card, I don't remember) to AUTO.
There it switches from GPRS to UMTS if UMTS signal is OK.
Huib
Ok, i have the same problem. Have GPRS Always on set in registry and 10 minutes ago, my MDA Pro lost GPRS connection. It trys to reconnect all the time. But no Connection can be build up. After Flight Mode and back, i get a connection immediately. But on start of MSN Messenger, it loses the connection again and does the same loop like before. Only a softreset brings my connection back to live.
Looks like a ROM issue. Maybe GSM or CE.
I am delighted to say that my replacement MDA Pro seems much more stable in the signal department. Although I still loose signal ocaasionally, I no beleive that is due to poor signal area and not the phone...
If you phone isloosing and reconnecting all the time then like mine it is probably faulty! Hopefully the ROM upgrades will sort out the last few issues I'm having!!
I love this phone!!
Same problem with JASJAR
People still have this problem? i'm using radio 1.03.01. When i used the original firmware, the phone part would lock up (Would get the busy - wait 15 seconds and try again, but it would never clear - had to soft reset)
With the 1.03.01 radio, i still get disconnected, but it'll find the signal again after a few retries - which is very bad! I rely on the phone at work, and people can't get through when it's disconnected. I have full signal strength (4 bars) so it's a software/hardware problem.
It looks like maybe it happens more frequently when charging or activesync'ing, than when it's disconnected from usb.
Can anyone confirm having the same problem, and it getting better or FIXED with the new radio firmware? If not, i'm going to have to return it.
Michael
I am using radio version 1.04.02 on the O2 exec, although i use a Vodafone SIM (supplied by work!). Mine suffers from the same problem, mainly at home, which is a very odd signal area for Vodafone. I can go from no signal to full signal to none again, and yes, sometimes it drops completely and needs a soft reset - bingo! full signal again.
Switching the network type from auto to GSM does seem to make the unit a little happier, but i need to use WCDMA when possible, so i leave mine on auto and live with the dropouts!
Lets hope the next rom fixes the problem.
Cheers
Paul
I have the same problem with my XDA and O2. a soft reset nor a full reset have been able to fix the problem. :roll: is the new rom version available as yet?
For some reason - my QTEK 9100 fails to maintain the connection to my GPRS service. Once I connect, it holds the connection until I make/receive a phone call. Thereafter, the device shows the connection in place, but it fails to pass any more data through the connection. To keep using the data connection, I must either soft reset or switch flight mode on/off.
(Needless to say, I have been able to use my SIM in other GPRS-enabled phones).
ROM 1.1.7.5
Date 9/22/05
Radio 01.01.10
Protocol 4.0.13.16
ExtRom 1.1.7.105
Anyone have any ideas?
Is there a ROM upgrade or RegEdit that could do the trick?
Same **** with mine 9100 on MTS. We should get together to solve this issue. Let me know if you got the solution. My ICQ 2662731, phone no. 916 137 7540, Leonid.
Absolutely the same problem with my Qtek 9100 on MTS. Some people on the forums say it's operator's problem; others claim it's not. However, switching from MTS is not an option for me anyway (corporate cell phone number, etc.) so I would be very much obliged for any solutions, or at least hints towards what can be causing it.
One possible solution (haven't tested myself yet) is setting GPRS to 'always on' via the registry editor; however
a) Will it drain my battery much more than usual?
b) Won't GPRS get disconnected in standby mode?
hi
hi. try to initiate GPRS connection with the default inbox email. press send and receive to check email. let it connect GPRS. when someone call u. it still maitain but the during call, the other person must pick up the phone. if nobody pick up the phone. the GPRS will have problem and need to turon and turnoff radio again. this is the only to maintain gprs, that is, to initiate GPRS connection with the default inbox email.
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One possible solution (haven't tested myself yet) is setting GPRS to 'always on' via the registry editor;
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I tried to set it always on, it didn't help.
malice93 said:
Absolutely the same problem with my Qtek 9100 on MTS. Some people on the forums say it's operator's problem; others claim it's not. However, switching from MTS is not an option for me anyway (corporate cell phone number, etc.) so I would be very much obliged for any solutions, or at least hints towards what can be causing it.
One possible solution (haven't tested myself yet) is setting GPRS to 'always on' via the registry editor; however
a) Will it drain my battery much more than usual?
b) Won't GPRS get disconnected in standby mode?
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ad a) -
One thing I know for sure:
it will not drain your battery any more that when connecting gprs on demand. I used to use the "grps always on" feature and can't tell the difference in battery life.
Regardless of the "gprs always on" setting I do sometimes have problems with the connection. The icons (gprs) say it's on but no data is transferred (no e-mail/www received) but it happens very rarely and I can't tell in what circumstances.
By the way: holding the red off-hook key for 5 secs closes the gprs connection - check if it doesn't make your problem easier to bare ;-)
Maybe you could try another operator's SIM - at leat you'd know if it's the Wizard or the operator.
Salute/k
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By the way: holding the red off-hook key for 5 secs closes the gprs connection - check if it doesn't make your problem easier to bare ;-)
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Yes, I know about this one; however, since GPRS won't reconnect anyway, this doesn't solve anything for me.
Oh well, I'll keep experimenting and hopefully Qtek will release some ROM updates in the future to deal with the problem.
Update: After playing with the settings a bit, the problem indeed seems to be with phone calls; i.e. I can disconnect/reconnect GPRS manually without any problems, but once a phone call is made or received, GPRS stops reconnecting. I have a suspicion it's actually an operator issue but haven't had time to try some other SIM yet.
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Yes, I know about this one; however, since GPRS won't reconnect anyway, this doesn't solve anything for me.
Oh well, I'll keep experimenting and hopefully Qtek will release some ROM updates in the future to deal with the problem.
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I called service today about this problem, they heard nothing about it, they said. Also they invited to flash rom, that was released month ago, they said. I asked them about version but call operator didn't know.
I'm afraid to do that because they could flash older verison than I have, and there are some roms that have troubles with incoming calls, I read in russian Qtek forum.
My version:
OS: 1.3.9.4 RUS
Date: 9/29/05
Radio: 01.01.10
Protocol: 4.0.13.16
ExtROM: 1.1.7.105
I read there are some utilities to save rom but I cannot find how to save rom to hard disk to restore it in future surely.
My version is:
ROM 1.1.7.9
Date 9/16/05
Radio 01.04.10
Protocol 4.0.13.17
ExtRom 1.1.7.111
(Russian OS)
Just read on some Russian forums that there were the same problems with s100 until the new radio version was released, so I guess we just have to wait.
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I tried to set it always on, it didn't help.
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Just tried it myself, didn't work for me either.
So far, the problem can be diagnosed as: regardless of GPRS status, a phone call (outbound or received) will screw up the existing GPRS connection and any future attempts to reconnect unless a soft reset/flight mode switch is made.
I hope to god a ROM update will be available in the near future; meanwhile, any and all suggestions are welcome.
Today I visited service, they flashed me the same rom I already had. Then they tried to solve problem at least 2 hours but with no success.
I advised them to be ready for crowd of users of 9100 who connect to MTS.
Technician said I have to wait new rom update, but he cannot say nothing about release date.
I want to beleave...
Some guy at Russian forums put forth an idea that our problem might in fact be an issue with lousy MTS implementation of EDGE.
So in theory it could be solved by turning EDGE off entirely (if it is indeed possible).
Same problem on my Qtek 9100 ... is there any updates available for the ROM?
I have this same problem on both my Kjam and Qtek 9100. I am in the United States and use Cingular. I suspect this is not a carrier problem.
I'm in the US on Cingular with a Qtek 9100. I think the issue is that the carrier drops the GPRS connection after time, or the signal is lost and WM5 doesn't react. Either way, seems like leaving GPRS in constant ON mode plays into the problem rather than help it. After installing GB-SOFT Tweak http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4714.html and setting it to release GPRS if unused for more than 10 or 15 minutes, I don't get the GPRS problem nearly as often. Furthermore, when a GPRS lockup does occur, turning flight mode on and then off again restores function without the long cycle time of a soft reset
Christian
I had the same problem on my IMate and it was fixed by turning off (2sec) and then turning on your device once the GPRS connection was established. Haven't tested on my jam yet
I have the same problem since upgrading to AKU2 ROM - before I never had that issue...
Dear technically gifted people,
I have recently purchased the Wizard (i-mate k-jam) and have the following three problems:
1. Sometimes the phone does not receive calls and they go directly to voicemail, even though I am in an area where all mobiles work and the phone shows full reception.
2. If reset the device or turn on/off flight mode, the device has no problem connecting to GPRS/EDGE (provider MTS/Russia), but after some time it drops the connection and cannot reconnect until next reset.
3. Flight mode switch does not always work. Have to turn it on 2-3 times before phone responds and turns the phone back on.
If someone would be kind enough to help me resolve them I would greatly appreciate it. I recently upgraded to the new ROM (the one posted on the clubimate site in March) but it did not seem to help the issue.
Regards,
egrib
i have the same problem! Have to turn it off and then back on again, very annoying!
Do you think turning the voicemail off will sort it out? I dont really have any need for it anyway
could be SIM related.
My wizard showed the same instability. I needed to reboot every night otherwise i would get dropped calls (straight to voice mail) no GRPS access, and the charging wouldn't work. I changed roms etc. What finally did the trick for me is I got my service provider (FIDO in canada) to change my SIM from the 2001 card i had to a current one.
It seems to have done the trick.
From my own experience and from seeing all the posts on this forum it seems like this device is full of bugs and is just not worth the time and money.
As there a similar device out there that actually works and people have no problem using?
Thanks.
egrib said:
1. Sometimes the phone does not receive calls and they go directly to voicemail, even though I am in an area where all mobiles work and the phone shows full reception.
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did you have the same problem with previous handsets in the same area? such problem are quite often caused by network issues not mobile and you should try reporting it to your operator's customer care. however, if such problem persist only on wizard and in various areas, then it's probably problem with mobile...
egrib said:
2. If reset the device or turn on/off flight mode, the device has no problem connecting to GPRS/EDGE (provider MTS/Russia), but after some time it drops the connection and cannot reconnect until next reset.
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you mean [G] icon on top of screen? well, this is a feature of this model, that after some time it detaches from GPRS, so [G] icon disappears. however if you'll try to connect to internet through GPRS, it will attach again and connect, so i wouldn't be so much concerned about it.
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3. Flight mode switch does not always work. Have to turn it on 2-3 times before phone responds and turns the phone back on.
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i've had the same problem, but i noticed that it just needs a bit of time for phone to switch on again. so when you're trying to switch off flight mode, tap it once and wait a bit. it should turn on after a while. at least it works this way with me..
eva_d,
I think you are entirely correct on point 3 - flight mode switch takes some time.
As for the other points, I don't think they are as easily resolved. When the phone does not receive phone calls (and calls go straight to voicemail) it does not seem to be a carrier problem since 1. i never had this problem with the same card in a different mobile and 2. once it stops receiving calls it continues to do so until a reset, regardless of where I am located.
The GPRS issue - i know what you are referring to with regards to the [G] icon (I have it all the time) but once i receive or make a phone call, I cannot reconnect to the internet until i reset the device. Also not a carrier problem. This seems to be an issue with all MTS users in Russia. So far unresolved.
Anyone other ideas anyone? Thanks
It's well known issue (GPRS on MTS Moscow; is your mts is in Moscow?). It was fixed in new ROM, that just was released week ago. Russian version is available.
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egrib said:
1. Sometimes the phone does not receive calls and they go directly to voicemail, even though I am in an area where all mobiles work and the phone shows full reception.
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did you have the same problem with previous handsets in the same area? such problem are quite often caused by network issues not mobile and you should try reporting it to your operator's customer care. however, if such problem persist only on wizard and in various areas, then it's probably problem with mobile....
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I have a kindoff similar problem. Just got my Qtek yesterday and I tried latching to cingular. What happens is when I switch on the phone, it takes forever to latch to the network. I see the
Y.
Y..
Y... going on for ever. In my old phone, just switch it on and there it connects to cingular. I tried doing the manual/automatic network selection and everything but it just takes too much of time to latch on. It finally latches (thank god !) but still its annoying. But once connected, itnever drops off or goes to voice mail. Looks like it has a starting problem
Also, reception wise, it shows less bars then my old phone when I am sitting on the same chair :?
Did anybody face the same problem, or am I the blessed one. Any tweaks or something that can be done ?
I also have problems sometimes connecting to edge/gprs, I think it might have something to do with handshaking accross towers.
I noticed that this happens when I enable TOMTOMTRAFFIC, it will get the traffic the first time I start tomtom, then 15 minutes into driving when it trys to get a traffic update it will not connect to gprs, it will keep dialing and eventually disconnect. Then after a rest, it will connect again but again after about 15 minutes of driving it has the same problem. Pretty annoying.
Vishny,
I am indeed on Moscow MTS. You mention a new ROM that fixes this - are you referring to the ROM that came out early this year (2.16.9.1) ? If so, I did the upgrade (english version) and it did not seem to help. If there is something more recent that fixes the MTS problem, please let me know where I can download it.
Also, are you having and problems with receiving calls? Thanks.
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Vishny,
I am indeed on Moscow MTS. You mention a new ROM that fixes this - are you referring to the ROM that came out early this year (2.16.9.1) ? If so, I did the upgrade (english version) and it did not seem to help. If there is something more recent that fixes the MTS problem, please let me know where I can download it.
Also, are you having and problems with receiving calls? Thanks.
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It's 2.18 ROM with new 2.20.11 radio rom. I'm having no problems with calls or GPRS. Now my device is perfect, I love it. Just try it, you can find it here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/HTC Wizard/ROMS/
Thanks vishny - if that will indeed solve the problem.
Few questions, are there any other places to get the files (i am having problems logging into the one you provided).
Also, is this only for a Russian OS or do they have the same for english? Thanks
Guys, could you please advise me how can I download from FTP? It asks for username & password, but my profile's username and passwords wont work.
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Guys, could you please advise me how can I download from FTP? It asks for username & password, but my profile's username and passwords wont work.
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user/pass: xda/xda
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Guys, could you please advise me how can I download from FTP? It asks for username & password, but my profile's username and passwords wont work.
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user/pass: xda/xda
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Great! Thanx a lot.
And another question. Would QTEK ROM work for K-Jam, or should I wait for official K-Jam ROM update?
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And another question. Would QTEK ROM work for K-Jam, or should I wait for official K-Jam ROM update?
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it will work, but you need to unlock your device first with Lokiwiz or aWizard. search forums, there are lots of posts regarding this.
Thanks for all the help.
One question to Vishny and others - i see the new 2.18 rom update in Russian - does anyone have any idea where I can get it in english?
I assume the GPRS/calls problem lies in the Radio ROM - so another question may be how can i keep my english ROM but update my Radio ROM to one that would work with MTS in Russia?
Many thanks
egrib said:
Thanks for all the help.
One question to Vishny and others - i see the new 2.18 rom update in Russian - does anyone have any idea where I can get it in english?
I assume the GPRS/calls problem lies in the Radio ROM - so another question may be how can i keep my english ROM but update my Radio ROM to one that would work with MTS in Russia?
Many thanks
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There is no english 2.18 rom, because 2.18 solves specific problem with one of operators in Moscow. Some guys make hack, they flash 2.16 i-mate or 2.17 qtek english roms, then flash 2.20.11 "russian" radio rom and then install additional RadioDriver_GPRSStall_Wizard_Mar24.CAB they extract from extrom of 2.18 russian rom.
Look at this:
http://www.qtek-mobile.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2131&start=30
vishny,
i installed the new radio rom onto the latest english i-mate rom and thw wizard finally worked with MTS in Russia without any problems. For that I thank you.
Unfortunately now for some reason once in a while the screen goes dark (as if the device is sleeping, the light is still blinking) and the only thing I can do is reset the device. Any ideas?
Thanks
p.s. why does this thing always have problems and as soon as i solve one, another arises :?
Quite often these days I am getting the issue mentioned above. Even soft resets do not seem to help. Until I reset a few more times.
What might be the cause of this? Thanks.
Hope someone might be able to assist on this. Thanks.
I'm also getting this message nearly every time I try to make a call. The phone then looks like it resets the connection with the cell tower and it successfully completes the call on the second try. Then the next time I try to call someone else it fails again. I came to this forum to see if anyone else has experienced the same problem.
Hey joej, I found out what might be causing the problem: make sure that your ActiveSync is closed before you try making a call. That fixed the problem for me.
Also, here's a quote from an email from one of my coworkers:
"Your Tytn was probably trying to dial a data connection at the same time that you were trying to dial voice and so it has to cancel the data request before you can dial out. There is a registry tweak you can do to the Tytn to keep the data connection always active when the phone is not in use and this may make it less frequent that you would have a problem
Activesync is supposed to stop when your data connection is unavailable. If you are making or receiving a call on the TyTN (or any GSM phone) your data connection will not be available and therefore not run. Do you have a lot of 3rd party apps running at startup as well? I have rarely had a problem with my Tytn and never during a call unless my battery dies on my BT headset mid call and then the device may get confused."
Hope this helps!
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Hey joej, I found out what might be causing the problem: make sure that your ActiveSync is closed before you try making a call. That fixed the problem for me.
Also, here's a quote from an email from one of my coworkers:
"Your Tytn was probably trying to dial a data connection at the same time that you were trying to dial voice and so it has to cancel the data request before you can dial out. There is a registry tweak you can do to the Tytn to keep the data connection always active when the phone is not in use and this may make it less frequent that you would have a problem
Activesync is supposed to stop when your data connection is unavailable. If you are making or receiving a call on the TyTN (or any GSM phone) your data connection will not be available and therefore not run. Do you have a lot of 3rd party apps running at startup as well? I have rarely had a problem with my Tytn and never during a call unless my battery dies on my BT headset mid call and then the device may get confused."
Hope this helps!
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thanks for the update, i however am experiencing this issue once in a while and it is not with the activesync running nor a data connection going on. ugh..... guess mine is odd
Me too
Thank so much for the post count me in there too. I am southern central PA and just last week this started happening to me too. I have an 8525.
I have no acrive data connection nor any apps running that force a data connection. Every morning I have been resetting the phone 5-6 times before the freezing stops and it works. So annoying.
I am suspecting it is a network issue with cingular and them upgrading to 3g in my area. I suspect it as I had to travel north this week and discovered 3g coverage in Harrisburg so I am betting that is it.
I feel your pain and I have no fool proof thing to do on the phone to fix it. But man the phone on the 3g is fantastic.
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Thank so much for the post count me in there too. I am southern central PA and just last week this started happening to me too. I have an 8525.
I have no acrive data connection nor any apps running that force a data connection. Every morning I have been resetting the phone 5-6 times before the freezing stops and it works. So annoying.
I am suspecting it is a network issue with cingular and them upgrading to 3g in my area. I suspect it as I had to travel north this week and discovered 3g coverage in Harrisburg so I am betting that is it.
I feel your pain and I have no fool proof thing to do on the phone to fix it. But man the phone on the 3g is fantastic.
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yup, everything rocks in it except the phone functionality really needs to be improved to be more usable.
do you know how i can use the phonepad to do t9 for replying SMS ? right now i am finding it hard to do so as i need to use the normal input methods which is not as easy as a normal cellphone
omg I'm from Singapore using Starhub think I'm having the same problem too. Dopod 838 pro.
A soft reset works for me, but very frustrating coz you dunno whether you are missing calls - the screen shows mobile is up with signal and all but people can't call in.
Just started happening to me past few days but then again I just took over the phone from a friend who bought it 3 months ago (latest batch)
So frustrating. ... seems related to the activesync.. but then again still happens when activesync's not involved.
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Thank so much for the post count me in there too. I am southern central PA and just last week this started happening to me too. I have an 8525.
I have no acrive data connection nor any apps running that force a data connection. Every morning I have been resetting the phone 5-6 times before the freezing stops and it works. So annoying.
I am suspecting it is a network issue with cingular and them upgrading to 3g in my area. I suspect it as I had to travel north this week and discovered 3g coverage in Harrisburg so I am betting that is it.
I feel your pain and I have no fool proof thing to do on the phone to fix it. But man the phone on the 3g is fantastic.
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Same here anytime Cingy plays with towers, have you ever got a message stating the call can not be completed at this time? Been getting that one lately as well.
I think that it could be an issue with the phone heightened by the nature of the cell network.
I am wondering if the phone has issues handing off between cell towers as I have the band tab active and there are freq choices so I wonder if the phone even on gsm has some issues dealing with hand offs.
I locked it on gsm and still had issues with the phone. I locked it on 850 and still had phone issues. Put it in auto for the freq and still had issues.
On the U network on Cingular since its the only one the phone is excellent. Data and voice work great. So it will get better in the US for us on Cingular. But man its going to be really annoying during the roll out.
I'm on T-Mobile and I'm seeing this problem as well. (It didn't go away after closing ActiveSync like I said it did earlier.) The weird thing is that this wasn't a problem until about a week or two ago; now all of the sudden it's happening constantly.
Also, I just installed the newest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2) yesterday and now my phone has started to drop calls. I've never had a problem with dropped calls in the 2.5 years I've lived in this apartment.
Ain't technology grand?
Well things have not improved for me. Today after 8 resets the phone finally settled down and did not freeze and was able to get on the network. It has been terrible for me the last 2 weeks...
I removed the eten dialer skin I was using. I wanted to make sure it was not due to replacing the Cingular phone skin.
We shall see tomorrow if the phone is able to work without multiple resets..
If not it is off to a hard reset and re-load to see if that improves it any...
I have taken the plunge and did a hard reset plus reinstall of everything. I had the same apps installed again and the problem seems to be gone now. *touch wood* hopefully this doesn't come again... a restore takes too long. I have also installed Sprite and did a full backup of the phone including the memory card just to be safe.
This problem started for me this morning. (NYC/NJ Area - USA). I did a hard reset (actually, two) this morning, and it didn't fix it, even when the phone first finished the initial load (in a virgin state). Then, around 11:00am, it began to work again. Now, it's about 6:30pm, and I need the phone to call home to tell them I'm gonna be late, and it's out again. Seems like it's something not to do with the phone, but with the network (I hope). It won't connect in GSM, UMTS, or AUTO modes, FWIW.
Oh well, sure hope it doesn't takle two weeks to "go away".
returned
Well I returned mine. Did the warrenty exchange. So far so good. No freezing and the phone seems to hold onto the network ok now.
I truly believe mine was defective. As the phone would show searching and not connect to the network.
I think that not being able to make a data connection is a network issue as it clears up in a few days.
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This problem started for me this morning. (NYC/NJ Area - USA). I did a hard reset (actually, two) this morning, and it didn't fix it, even when the phone first finished the initial load (in a virgin state). Then, around 11:00am, it began to work again. Now, it's about 6:30pm, and I need the phone to call home to tell them I'm gonna be late, and it's out again. Seems like it's something not to do with the phone, but with the network (I hope). It won't connect in GSM, UMTS, or AUTO modes, FWIW.
Oh well, sure hope it doesn't takle two weeks to "go away".
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also in the same area, experiencing similar problems within certain specific locations. Noteably these are locations that I get SPOTTY UMTS service, so I assume a tower upgrade is in progress or something that is causing this. Where I have full umts service, the problem does not occur.
at times i have signal, but calls don't come through (rings to calling party, but goes to voicemail before my device rings).
This is something related to 3G because when the sim is put in a blackberry 8700c, everything works A-OK.
Glad to know i am not alone in this
I have similar problems. Especially in the university of Hannover. There is UMTS. Since a few days Data Connections via Active Sync don't work.
Before I had problems with calls. For example freezing during call.
And of course in the university and on other places I have often to do calls twice.
I called O2 for that problem. They are upgrading the cell around the university to HSDPA.
Hi to all !
I had the same problems, then i removed the microSD card and the problem was gone. Now i am testing the phone without miroSD card. I forgot to say that i had the problems with boot too(No GSM) and now it boot perfectly.
Best regards
O2 XDA Trion (dopod rom)
I finally had to return the phone under warrenty. It degraded to no gsm all the time fresh from a hard reset with no mem card. The new device has been flawless radio wise for a week now.
Problems with XDA Trion SOLVED !!!
Hi again !
The microSD card was NOT the problem ! I tested the phone without SD card but that was not the problem. Then i go to my provider and change the SIM card with new one (the old one was very old so i buy new one) and wauuu it works. The XDA TRION needs the sim card with UMTS suport then it will work fine. So far NO freezing at all. I will let you know in a few days if something strange will hapen.
Best regards
Hi, to all with the problem “The operation failed” when trying to make a call:
Try to switch off bluetooth (specially if you are in UMTS (CMDA) network) and then try to make a phonecall again.
For me this helped to solve it.
First I also thought that it’s only a Provider network problem (I have 2 different providers, with one it works, with the other I have the “operation failed” problems).
So it is 100% a phone software problem. (Shame to HTC)
Give feedback if it helped you too.