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I bought my qtek last week and trying ever since to get it connected with my carkit..
Sometimes this works and I can hear and talk through my carkit. Other times it only rings through my carkit and when i pick it up it disconnectw with the carkit and goes back to the qtek. Or it doesn't connect at all.
I've tried several things..
-first I wanted to try the new bluetooth patches.. this works a little better for example without switching on the qtek and turning the key, they automatically connect. Not all times but ik works a little better.
-trying to put a new ROM version on my qtek, got a country id error.. Got rid of it using the xda3nfbtool.. then got a radio image file checksum error.. Don't know how to bypass this because it has to do with the passwords in the xda3nfbtool.exe..
So now I'm here, hoping that some wizzkids know how to get a permanently good bt connection...
Who dares??? Or has suggestions??
Thanks in advance,
Sorry my english isn't my main language
BMW BT with Blue Angel
Same problem here. Have tried all available patches. the 3500 BT version works with the least amount of trouble. But even with this one I never know how long it will take to get it working and wether I will hit a tree in the meantime.
A Friend of mine uses the Motorola Carkit with no problem. I think the BMW System is too complicated with i5s address-book synch to work. By the way, how many adresses do you havein your qtek?
Hi,
I do have at least a very similar problerm with my Audi BT. I can connect, it works just fine when I make a call, BUT it looses connection after picking up an incoming call...
I tried all stacks I could get my hands on from 1900 thru 2400 till 3500 and even 6600...
Anyone with an idea!?
TIA
PEACE AND B WILD!
Re: BMW BT with Blue Angel
jofeuerstein said:
Same problem here. Have tried all available patches. the 3500 BT version works with the least amount of trouble. But even with this one I never know how long it will take to get it working and wether I will hit a tree in the meantime.
A Friend of mine uses the Motorola Carkit with no problem. I think the BMW System is too complicated with i5s address-book synch to work. By the way, how many adresses do you havein your qtek?
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Don't know how many adresses, about 150... But at this time I have none in the PDA, just to test if the BT connection will work... But it has to do with the connection and not the adress book... I just found out that different models of BMW could have different model of BT carkits. And BMW uses a siemens carkit according to a mechanic from BMW.
I hope someone has the brains to pull this of.. Because how is it possible to get a only sometimes connection. This means that it could work, or is that just my postive attitude.
bmw car kits
by wot i understand bmw are about 100000 years behind with there software on the car kits 6600 t610 v600 etc all work but your new one dropn in and out all the time
Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
Re: Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
jofeuerstein said:
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
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Can you tell which type of BMW you drive?? And if it's not to much trouble then mention the ROM, Radio version etc you have on your PDA... That is what I (and maybe others) would like to know.
Thanks in advance..
You say that sometimes it takes up to 15 min to get a connection! Maybe this could be due to the phonebook.. I don't no for certain, but if you're BMW tries to take over the adress book of your PDA that could take a while with 4000 entries.. What you could try is, if you're synchronising with your computer leave out the adresses in active sync. So that there are no adresses in your PDA. Then try to pair with the BMW and see what it does... Maybe then it works faster... I'm curious if you get a good connection between the PDA and the Beemer.... Please let me know.
Greetz
Have just installed:
ROM version 1.22.00. WWE
Radio version 1.06.02
ExtROM version 1.22.557 WWE
Tried it AGAIN in my BMW...
First time connection --> connection failed, BT BMW says erfolgreich (succeeded)
Switch contact on/off --> everything works I can phone, and incoming calls also work.. That's how it's suppose to be
Switch contact on/off --> There is a pairing, but as soon as I get an incoming call the phone goes off in the car, but when I answer afther a few seconds the connection is gone.
Switch bluetooth on/off on PDA --> It works again??!!?!
So a early conclusion is that the bluetooth has to be totally switched off when the PDA is off.. If phone rings PDA switches on and connects to carkit.. Does anbody know if this is possible, then I will try it out???
Thanks
I think I have found a solution. I'm not sure but so far this works..
Now I need someone to help with the following...
The bluetooth on the PDA must be switched of when you turn the ignition.
Then when you have your car running you switch on the bleutooth on the PDA... They pair and connect... I've tried it several times and it works...
Now when you switch of your car and turn it back on again the pairing will work but there is no connection. So in my case the phone rings in the car but when i pick it up it switches back to the PDA..
Conclusion; Only when the PDA is switched on the Bleutooth is allowed to switch on... So when you're being phoned, first the PDA goes on and a few seconds later the carkit is active and you're able to pick up through the steering wheel..
SO THIS IS IMPORTANT..
Is someone capable to make a prog. or to delete something in the original bluetooth prog. in PDA that the bleutooth function isn't always ON, only when you put on your PDA...
I really hope someone can help??!?!?!?!
Thanks
Re: Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
jofeuerstein said:
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
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What is the "this small fix on the download section)" Can't find what you mean?
@tbd: forget the fix. It was an older version that I mistakenly downloaded ->my mistake
@dennis123
In the meantime I use:
Ext. Rom 1.22.01 GER
ROM-Datum 10/26/04
Radio-Version 1.06.02
Protokoll Version 1337.38
ExtROM 1.22.182
Bluetooth 1.0.0.3500
Yesterday morning I went to my car with BT OFF, turned the car on, turned BT on and it worked flawlessly.
Yesterday evening I went to the car with BT ON, turned the car on, and the BT paired, but during the first call it dropped the connection.
Same today. => I have at least one reproducable way to get the darn thing working. I can't say that satisfies me, but i will stop wasting time with this ;-)
Has anyone tried this with BT 3900 ?
PS: Somebody asked what kind of BMW: The car is an X5 build in 9/04, with the Bluetooth interface and without navigation.
Guys
Since the upgrade, everything has been working great, with the one exception that the bluetooth pairing with my BT car kit (Parrot CK3300) keeps dissapearing from the XDA.
It works for a few days (using TomTom 5) then it suddenly dissapears, and I have to set it all up again.
Any ideas?
Ta
they is quite a few of us in the same boat, i have tried a few things but am stump now just waiting for parrot to release a new firmware for the ck3300
Thanks
Paul
Try to upgrade Radio to 1.11 , it's responsible for BT too.
Has anyone any experience of this while using Radio 1.11?
This all worked fine until after the ROM upgrade, so is it likely that the Parrot will need an upgrade?
It works ok for a few days then the XDA suddenly bleeps when it tries to connect with the car kit, then there is a dialog box on the XDA screen asking for the passcode to pair up..., I've put the password in (1234), but it always fails... then thats it ... pairing lost
Any clues anyone... this is really starting to frustrate me :x
Ta
1.11 fixes it, but...
When I upgraded from the stock O2 ROM to the T-Mobile one, I found that when ever I switched off my GPS unit, I needed to re-pair it for it to work again. Upgrading to the 1.11 Radio Rom did fix this. Never had a problem with headsets.
But I've also been having some weird power problems - battery going down by 10%+ an hour. Mostly it turned out to be on days when I used wifi in the morning - I'm pretty sure using the new radio dialogue didn't actually switch off the wifi radio when you disconnected. 1.11 does fix that. But also sometimes switching off the phone didn't actually switch off that radio, and power would dissipate way too fast with nothing supposedly on. Doing a soft reset always allowed me to leave it over night and only see 1-2% power gone.
So I've just backed down to the original radio ROM from the original O2 installer. I'm hoping this will solve all my problems, at the cost of the less resilient changeovers from UMTS to GSM.
Ta,
Mark.
i think i have cracked this, my phone has now been connected to my ck3300 for 5 days solid now
here is the post on the parrot forum
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=813&p=4
its at the bottom
Paul
i think i have it pegged have another look at the parrot forum
ok here is yet another update on things.... this is a very strange one. if you enable the device lock start\settings\personal\lock
Prompt if device is unused for 16.7 hours
set simple pin
the phone and the parrot device keep there pairing with no problem at all i have been testing it for the last 48 hours
if you disable the above it loses the paring straght the way.
strange is they anyone else who can try this
Thanks
Paul
I'm using a Parrot R N B, but I have experience the same problem. I have also upgrade to the new radio version, and again the same problem. In fact I can't reproduce the error in a controlled way. It happens from time to time. But more of the time, the Universal connect again to the parrot only assigning again the Parrot as the headset in the Bluetooth manager.
My try now was to install the buzznet.dev cab attached. I'm trying also what buzz said: Do not use the power button to put the Universal off, only close the lid.
I'have 2 days without problems with the parrot. I'll post an update if this also fail.
what parrot do you have? i have a ck3300 running version 1.14d if you can try the above trick and let me know... i could reproduce the error ever time, just connect up 3-4 times and then it would fail..... have not had to worry about the power button trick.
Paul
Mine is RHYTHM N'BLUE, and with this last trick I told you, I add a new day without problems. Today I have started and stopped the Parrot 6 times and always work perfectly.
I searched and didn't find any previous postings regarding an issue with Parrot and Audi Hands Free (Bluetooth) car kits and the TyTn.
This issue is only with the TyTn and the Wizard devices work fine.
It seems to pair fine with the car kits but 5 minutes into usage...the TyTn turns the bluetooth off on the device.
Then about 1 min later, turns Bluetooth on again. The cycle then begins Off and then On ....
Here's a link on the Parrot forum.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667
I've got the same problem with my Seat Leon (new model) bluetooth carkit !!!
I think it's the same module as in the Audi (all VAG related cars).
It's very irritating !
I hope they will fix it soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58789&highlight=
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Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
Pyranwolf said:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
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I'm going to try this !
I hope that it works.
Thanks anyway.
What kind of Leon do you have ?
I've got an A6 with BT kit and am having this problem. I cannot make/receive a call whilst running my BT GPS device & TomTom, although from reading this the issue may be the Audi kit anyhow.
Are there any fixes available - be it HTC or Audi? Or are there any work-arounds, such as add-on software for the TyTN??
Please help - it is driving me mad. Spoiling what is otherwise a great piece of kit.
I have been having this exact problem with my Audi A4 with Audi Bluetooth.
I did wonder if it was in some way connected with the phone going into sleepy mode as it is being powered by the phone battery.
Also, the bluetooth stops responding after 5-10 minutes, but if I am continously using the phone, it seems to be ok.
Therefore, I think I need to buy an in car charger, and see what happens...
Has anybody else tried this that can confirm it works?
Markee
Just a quick note to Paul_o
My Audi A4 / SPV M3100 / Tom Tom / Bluetooth GPS work fine together.
If I am in Tom Tom, and get an incoming call, the little call window pops up over Tom Tom, Tom Tom carries on and the phone audio is routed through the speakers - the only irritating thing is that the Tom Tom lady keeps interrupting... :wink:
Mark
Hi,
I'm using Vario 2 with Audi Bluetooth and also having the BT ON - BT OFF issues.
These are my findings.
- Without JETWARE software:
- BT goes ON and OFF in the car regardless of the VARIO 2 being on or stand-by, or the phone being battery powered or connected to the car.
- Once a conversation is started the BT connection seems to be remain ON.
- With JETWARE software
- If I leave the screen always on the BT connection stays always ON. Only backlight automatic switch-off is selected
- I have tried several screen toggle programs (which claim that they only power down the screen) but the BT goes OFF in the car after a few minutes.
I'm happy to test any other proposal.
Cheers,
C
What version of JetWare are you running, they have a beta which has settings for the Audi kit, this may help, there is also a registry setting that is meant to change the power settings when bt is connected. An extract from an email conversation with Jetware...
We have also addressed the power issue, but this fix requires a registry change. Please create a DWORD registry value in HKLM\Software\JETware\AGExt named InSessionPower with a value of 0 (valid values are 0-4, with lower values indicating greater power availability). This will tell the OS that the Bluetooth device should stay at full power while it is in a Hands-free session.
Not sure if this will help, my Hermes is ariving on Monday, I'm was hoping that all the problems i've had with my magicain and the audi kit would go away with the Hermes, but maybe not.
Give the key a go and let me know
Hi dh,
thanks for your reply.
I haven't installed the Beta version yet. However I have changed the registry setting and will test first thing tomorrow. If this doesn't fix the problem I will try the Beta version with the Audi setting.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
Carles
Hi dh,
I have tested the two proposals (Change in the registry and the Beta version + Audi settings) without much luck. The BT connection with the car keeps going ON and OFF when the phone is running on battery.
Have you got your Hermes? any luck?
Thanks,
Carles
Got my Hermes (Orange M3100) a couple of days ago. I've installed the JetWare extention, and without the InSessionPower set the connection is dropped. So far with the setting applied it has stayed connected. I have had other problems like not being able to make calls etc, which is a bit of a issue. I need to do some more testing, as i've been messing with the phone a bit.
I'll update here in a couple of days
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
Hi dh,
You will see from my previous postings I have had the same problems too.
It should be noted, though, that the Vario (wizard) worked flawlessly with the Audi A4 Bluetooth without Jetware software.
Has anybody been able to prove there is no problems if the phone (SPVM3100) is powered whilst in the car?
Cheers
Mark
I have a factory fitted hands free system in my Vauxhall. Every other phone you can think of works with it...EXCEPT my XDA mini. It seems to pair up, but there is no signal showing from the carkit. It might work for a minute and then it drops out. Is it the XDA or Vauxhall that's at fault? It seems that nobody knows the answer and I paid serious money for this bit of car kit. I like the phone, it really is annoying. I have tried another XDA mini as well and that doesn't work either. Does anybody else have a Vauxhall with the same built-in system and not connecting?
Markee
I've had the phone plugged in without the registry entry and it seemed to be ok. If I can get to a stage of a working solution i'll test again without the registry entry and with external power.
dh said:
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
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I'm guessing that since they went from BT1.1 to BT2.0 they had to make a new stack.
My Wizard worked PERFECTLY on my Parrot, my TyTN is almost useless on it.
you make a very good point ScottC, that'll be what it is.
Just driven home and could not make a single call with Jetware installed. Removed it and i could at least make a call, but i didn't get any status info or phone book. I didn't get a chance to leave it connected without Jetware for longer enough to see if it disconnected without external power, i imagine it will. I will test some more later/tomorrow. I'll also send an email to Jetware to see what there thoughts are regarding bt v2.0 and their product
Hello,
I have an Audi A3 with the factory fitted Phone kit but without the Audi Craddle so I'm using the Bluetooth connection.
I have tried the Vario (Wizard/QTEK 9100) and Vario 2 (Hermes/TyTN) and had similar problems with the two of them. Once the connection is stablished I can make and receive calls without problems. The issue is that the BT connection goes ON and OFF without an apparent reason.
The only thing I have seen is that when the Vario is kept on (only the backlight is off) the BT connection normally stays ON, regardless of the phone being powered or not.
I have tried Jetware, the Beta version, the registry entry, programs to switch off the screen...but haven't seen any real difference.
I have bought a bluetooth USB stick and will do some test at home to see if the problem is with the car or the phone.
I called T-mobile and they said it was a faulty phone, but I don't think so.
Keep the postings, we might end up finding a solution
Cheers
C
Try upgrade the BT software. I had the same problem after that i upgraded de Parrot software. Now i have the version 4.16
hi.. i hve a skoda, octavia 2, it has factory installed bluetooth car kit, i can easily connect my Herms , but it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting every few minutes, I tried to upgared to WM6 and its same, I cange my bluetooth control unit at Skoda , and its same. the car kit works fine on any other phones like Nokia or SE. the problem is only with HTC devices. any idea ?
not a single reply !!!
This is a common problem with the TyTn, there are plenty of other threads here with exactly the same problem. I have a Parrot C3000 Evolution car kit and am using a LVSW WM6 ROM (see sig) which works most of the time (better than other ROMs in my experience) - although I experience the following all the time;
Bluetooth turns itself off (on the TyTn)
Bluetooth is on, but the phone won't connect to the car kit
Connection to the car kit gets lost after making a call
Connection to the car kit gets lost when dialling a number
In most cases going to connection manager and turning bluetooth off then on usually works, sometimes (rarely) I have to soft reset the phone and once in a while I have to soft reset the phone and the car(!). When it does all connect it works very well, I also use MS Voice Command and with the various fixes applied I get announcements, voice dialing etc. all working perfectly.
My problems with bluetooth are limited to the car kit though, I also have a TomTom bluetooth GPS dongle which works perfect all the time.
thanks forza
thanks a lot, at least I don't feel lonley with my problem.
i found this, which works great with my car kit.
www.jetwaremobile.com it costs, but there is a 30 day trial to see if it will work with your car kit.
m15chief said:
i found this, which works great with my car kit.
www.jetwaremobile.com it costs, but there is a 30 day trial to see if it will work with your car kit.
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can you please advise how to setup the jetware ??
forza said:
This is a common problem with the TyTn, there are plenty of other threads here with exactly the same problem. I have a Parrot C3000 Evolution car kit and am using a LVSW WM6 ROM (see sig) which works most of the time (better than other ROMs in my experience) - although I experience the following all the time;
Bluetooth turns itself off (on the TyTn)
Bluetooth is on, but the phone won't connect to the car kit
Connection to the car kit gets lost after making a call
Connection to the car kit gets lost when dialling a number
In most cases going to connection manager and turning bluetooth off then on usually works, sometimes (rarely) I have to soft reset the phone and once in a while I have to soft reset the phone and the car(!). When it does all connect it works very well, I also use MS Voice Command and with the various fixes applied I get announcements, voice dialing etc. all working perfectly.
My problems with bluetooth are limited to the car kit though, I also have a TomTom bluetooth GPS dongle which works perfect all the time.
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I have found that my 3200LS Color works great as long as I have unlocked my phone BEFORE turning ignition on. Have you updated your Parot firmware to latest version?
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I have found that my 3200LS Color works great as long as I have unlocked my phone BEFORE turning ignition on. Have you updated your Parot firmware to latest version?
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Firmware is the latest version for my device, but will try unlocking as you suggest and see how that goes, thanks for the tip.
parrot ck3100 and spv m3100 with wm6 dutty v2... it works perfect... i had black 3.0.1... it all went well untill a call in or out was made... but with dutty v2 it is al perfect... i am amezed myself when i see all the problems others have...
Firstly, I love this phone, it almost does exactly what I want, Ok Windows Mobile 6.x would be good but I can without that, what I can't live with is the Bluetooth problem I have.
My device will not connect to the integrated bluetooth within my Skoda Octavia - it pairs up OK, but won't transfer the phonebook, and then after 5-10mins the connection is dropped! While it's connect it'll receive calls OK. The BT in the car is identified as SKODA_UHV, which I understand is the same of other VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) cars, albeit with a different name.
It's been back to HP three times, the last time it came back with different BT version software installed, but that hasn't helped.
The car works fine with my old Nokia phone (and the HTC S710), the BT kit installed is the latest Skoda version....
Beer tokens await anyone who can provide a fix.....
do you see "hand free" on this connection? more things iI can think of is that lots of problems are due to lack of memory (device not card) pleas look at other thread on this issue it dose happen with new users ,one more thing is that you can set the connection to be not scure go over the settings
Yes the icon appears - everything is fine and works well for around 10mins, the the connection is broken.
The same happens if the unit is cold booted (thus ensuring maximum memory) and regardless of the security settings.
look for "ms-bt-stock" on xda ,you can also use google like "xda ms-bt..." see if one f the cabs will do the trick but from that day on you will not have your current bt screen (you can uninstall orHR) backup your device before installing so you can hr and restore ,good luck