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Call not always disconnecting??

Hi All
I've got a t-mobile MDACompact unlocked with a vodafone sim, running the latest t-mobile official unaltered roms (1.13.00WWE rom, 1.12.00 radio and 1.13.128WWE extrom).
I run blackberry very sucessfully, and its great - one of the main reasons I have the device. I also use bluetooth with my Parot CK3100 car kit.
Now, I have a problem in so much as ocasionally when I either make or recieve a call, I press the disconnect button on the unit and it doesn't disconnect.
I can still browse round the screen, start menu etc but it just WILL NOT disconnect, using any method. The only way to get it to release is either with the other end hanging up, or via a soft reset.
Any ideas anyone? Is there a known problem with my phone/blackberry/bluetooth combo?
Incidentally, the problem isn't related to the CK3100 car kit, as sometimes I can't get it to disconnect when I'm using it in the office without any bluetooth stuff connected.
Ta
Will

looks like I might have sorted this
I did a hard reset, then stopped the extrom being installed, so I have a vanilla CE install.
I then installed blackberry - all worked fine, no problems.
I then installed intelldialer (as its actually quite useful) and.... yep, it started playing up!
So there is the answer I think.
Will.

Bluetooth bug with Car Kits. Turns off and on and off and .

I searched and didn't find any previous postings regarding an issue with Parrot and Audi Hands Free (Bluetooth) car kits and the TyTn.
This issue is only with the TyTn and the Wizard devices work fine.
It seems to pair fine with the car kits but 5 minutes into usage...the TyTn turns the bluetooth off on the device.
Then about 1 min later, turns Bluetooth on again. The cycle then begins Off and then On ....
Here's a link on the Parrot forum.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667

I've got the same problem with my Seat Leon (new model) bluetooth carkit !!!
I think it's the same module as in the Audi (all VAG related cars).
It's very irritating !
I hope they will fix it soon....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58789&highlight=
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Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.

Pyranwolf said:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
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I'm going to try this !
I hope that it works.
Thanks anyway.
What kind of Leon do you have ?

I've got an A6 with BT kit and am having this problem. I cannot make/receive a call whilst running my BT GPS device & TomTom, although from reading this the issue may be the Audi kit anyhow.
Are there any fixes available - be it HTC or Audi? Or are there any work-arounds, such as add-on software for the TyTN??
Please help - it is driving me mad. Spoiling what is otherwise a great piece of kit.

I have been having this exact problem with my Audi A4 with Audi Bluetooth.
I did wonder if it was in some way connected with the phone going into sleepy mode as it is being powered by the phone battery.
Also, the bluetooth stops responding after 5-10 minutes, but if I am continously using the phone, it seems to be ok.
Therefore, I think I need to buy an in car charger, and see what happens...
Has anybody else tried this that can confirm it works?
Markee

Just a quick note to Paul_o
My Audi A4 / SPV M3100 / Tom Tom / Bluetooth GPS work fine together.
If I am in Tom Tom, and get an incoming call, the little call window pops up over Tom Tom, Tom Tom carries on and the phone audio is routed through the speakers - the only irritating thing is that the Tom Tom lady keeps interrupting... :wink:
Mark

Hi,
I'm using Vario 2 with Audi Bluetooth and also having the BT ON - BT OFF issues.
These are my findings.
- Without JETWARE software:
- BT goes ON and OFF in the car regardless of the VARIO 2 being on or stand-by, or the phone being battery powered or connected to the car.
- Once a conversation is started the BT connection seems to be remain ON.
- With JETWARE software
- If I leave the screen always on the BT connection stays always ON. Only backlight automatic switch-off is selected
- I have tried several screen toggle programs (which claim that they only power down the screen) but the BT goes OFF in the car after a few minutes.
I'm happy to test any other proposal.
Cheers,
C

What version of JetWare are you running, they have a beta which has settings for the Audi kit, this may help, there is also a registry setting that is meant to change the power settings when bt is connected. An extract from an email conversation with Jetware...
We have also addressed the power issue, but this fix requires a registry change. Please create a DWORD registry value in HKLM\Software\JETware\AGExt named InSessionPower with a value of 0 (valid values are 0-4, with lower values indicating greater power availability). This will tell the OS that the Bluetooth device should stay at full power while it is in a Hands-free session.
Not sure if this will help, my Hermes is ariving on Monday, I'm was hoping that all the problems i've had with my magicain and the audi kit would go away with the Hermes, but maybe not.
Give the key a go and let me know

Hi dh,
thanks for your reply.
I haven't installed the Beta version yet. However I have changed the registry setting and will test first thing tomorrow. If this doesn't fix the problem I will try the Beta version with the Audi setting.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
Carles

Hi dh,
I have tested the two proposals (Change in the registry and the Beta version + Audi settings) without much luck. The BT connection with the car keeps going ON and OFF when the phone is running on battery.
Have you got your Hermes? any luck?
Thanks,
Carles

Got my Hermes (Orange M3100) a couple of days ago. I've installed the JetWare extention, and without the InSessionPower set the connection is dropped. So far with the setting applied it has stayed connected. I have had other problems like not being able to make calls etc, which is a bit of a issue. I need to do some more testing, as i've been messing with the phone a bit.
I'll update here in a couple of days
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?

Hi dh,
You will see from my previous postings I have had the same problems too.
It should be noted, though, that the Vario (wizard) worked flawlessly with the Audi A4 Bluetooth without Jetware software.
Has anybody been able to prove there is no problems if the phone (SPVM3100) is powered whilst in the car?
Cheers
Mark

I have a factory fitted hands free system in my Vauxhall. Every other phone you can think of works with it...EXCEPT my XDA mini. It seems to pair up, but there is no signal showing from the carkit. It might work for a minute and then it drops out. Is it the XDA or Vauxhall that's at fault? It seems that nobody knows the answer and I paid serious money for this bit of car kit. I like the phone, it really is annoying. I have tried another XDA mini as well and that doesn't work either. Does anybody else have a Vauxhall with the same built-in system and not connecting?

Markee
I've had the phone plugged in without the registry entry and it seemed to be ok. If I can get to a stage of a working solution i'll test again without the registry entry and with external power.

dh said:
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
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I'm guessing that since they went from BT1.1 to BT2.0 they had to make a new stack.
My Wizard worked PERFECTLY on my Parrot, my TyTN is almost useless on it.

you make a very good point ScottC, that'll be what it is.
Just driven home and could not make a single call with Jetware installed. Removed it and i could at least make a call, but i didn't get any status info or phone book. I didn't get a chance to leave it connected without Jetware for longer enough to see if it disconnected without external power, i imagine it will. I will test some more later/tomorrow. I'll also send an email to Jetware to see what there thoughts are regarding bt v2.0 and their product

Hello,
I have an Audi A3 with the factory fitted Phone kit but without the Audi Craddle so I'm using the Bluetooth connection.
I have tried the Vario (Wizard/QTEK 9100) and Vario 2 (Hermes/TyTN) and had similar problems with the two of them. Once the connection is stablished I can make and receive calls without problems. The issue is that the BT connection goes ON and OFF without an apparent reason.
The only thing I have seen is that when the Vario is kept on (only the backlight is off) the BT connection normally stays ON, regardless of the phone being powered or not.
I have tried Jetware, the Beta version, the registry entry, programs to switch off the screen...but haven't seen any real difference.
I have bought a bluetooth USB stick and will do some test at home to see if the problem is with the car or the phone.
I called T-mobile and they said it was a faulty phone, but I don't think so.
Keep the postings, we might end up finding a solution
Cheers
C

Try upgrade the BT software. I had the same problem after that i upgraded de Parrot software. Now i have the version 4.16

8525 Bluetooth disconnects with headset mid-call

Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA

please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal

I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.

I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.

my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.

Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.

8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!

My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.

Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance

Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.

Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal

Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.

Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.

Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either

this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10

drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....

Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying

How do you stop BT turning off ?????

Hi,
Can't find anything in any other threads so here goes..
My M3100 (TYTN) turns bluetooth off when I turn off my Sony HBH 300 BT earpiece.
It doesn't happen everytime, maybe 50% of the time. It wouldn't be a problem but during the working day I connect and disconnect maybe 10 to 20 times and when I get back on the road and fire up the earpiece I suddenly find no BT.
I'm normally not in a place where I can safely stop to go through the connections screen to re activate it....
Not had this problem with any other phone, Nokia, SE etc...
I think it also happend once or twice after turning off my TomTom One whilst running the traffic BT connection to my phone...
It is getting to be a pain, so much so I'm considering using a OLD Nokia instead of the M3100. Only advantage is the M3100 allows more than one BT connection at the same time although you do have to connect the BT earpiece before connecting to the TT One unit...
Any ideas how I can stop it turning off without ME actually turning it off, never happens anyway, I just leave it on...
HELP !!
Phil-w

I have a similar problem and would love to find an answer before my 30 day return period is up! I haven't been able to find out WHY my BT radio always shuts off, but about half of the time I get in my car the BT is off. This - and the MS Voice Command hack not working with my particular HF - is going to make me return this thing.
BTW, I have Cingular 8500 with stock WM5.

Worked for me
Hey guys. I had a similar problem a while back.
I had installed a comm manager, and my BT was randomly shutting off. After getting some responses, I uninstalled the updated comm manager, everything has been working fine ever since.
I would recommend following the same course of action. If you don't have the original installed, maybe try installing a new one.
I recommend keeping the phone. It's great. There is SOOOO much you can do with it. If you are unlucky and got a lemon, that's a different story.
But I do not think this problem is common... good luck.

Last week I updated my ROM to the latest official AT&T release, and my BT problems *appear* to be solved.

Bluetooth still doesn't work properly!

My X1 has a very annoying problem with it's Bluetooth. During a call using Bluetooth handsfree the phone will drop the Bluetooth connection, leaving the call connected so annoyingly the caller can hear me cursing the unreliability of my phone. I then have to finish the conversation holding the phone to my ear without the headset.
I called Sony Ericsson, who told me to update the firmware. I did - to R2AA007 - makes no difference. They then said it was a defective phone, so I got a new one sent to me...
...this one has worked great for a month, but yesterday the battery ran almost flat and whilst on a call using handsfree it started playing up again. Now it does it all the time again, even though the phone has been fully recharged and rebooted.
I have been very careful not to change any settings with this second phone, no installs of anything. This is a Vodafone UK phone if it makes any difference. Any idea how I can get this working again? Even without the handsfree connected I can see the display flash 'Bluetooth on' at random intervals indicating that it keeps dropping. Sony Ericsson say that this is not a firmware issue that needs fixing now - what do you guys think?

there are many posts regarding your problem. one thing is for sure,you are not the only one. look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480698 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471181 here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448703 i have my mbw-150 and my hbh-pv712 connected at all times to my x1 the watch is always connected but my headset disconnects randomly as you mentioned even during a call. there is no problem with your phone it's a software issue.

Thanks for the links. What annoys me is that Sony tell me there is no problem and they won't report the bug to their firmware team because "it's been fixed in R2A". This isn't the case, and it doesn't give me much hope for firmware R3A.

Same problem here
I experienced the same problem. Got my X1 in december 2008. Problems started in mid Januari, about a month of good Bluetooth operations, it started to give problems. During a call the Bluetooth connnection is lost, but the call stays open. Can reconnect Bluetooth again during the call, but after some time (sometimes seconds, sometimes tens of seconds) the connection get lost again.
Was glad when the new firmware arrived in Feb 2009. Download it, and the problem was gone fore about one month. Mid march the problem started again. Downloaded (the same) firmeware version again and the problem was gone again for some time. Last week it reappeared again
My conclusion: the Bluetooth bug wasn't corrected in the latest firmware version. Just reinstallation of a new firmeware version resets the phone and the the problem is gone then for some time.....
Seems that there some kind of an internal timer/counter that corrupts good bluetooth operations. I don't want to reinstall "firmware" every time again because I have to reconfigure my phone then every time, which takes a lot of time.
I hope that Sony finally will correct this most irritation bug!!!!
In the mean time I use a Bluetooth restart programme that "turns on" bluetooth every second. This helps moth of the time.

This works for me
In the Bluetooth-Device-Manager tap and hold the stylus on the headset you want to use until a popup is shown, then select use as headset. This worked for me when i have had some problems with one of my headsets supporting more than the "Handsfree-Profile" .
=> better connection under R1, best connection under R2(using R2 since official release)
Good luck WOODY

Hey Guys,
I think i have the solution for the bluetooth problem. i had my Xperia since 11/2008.
i never had a problem with connection when i used my headset. the problem was with the I-Drive disconnection randomly.
I flashed multiple roms from Itje and Jack with the same problem always.
now for the past 2 weeks i have been using Itje V5.5 with no problems what so ever.
the key is to turn bluetooth off in the comm manager everytime you wanna install new programs. i truly believe that installing software with the bluetooth on disrupt something ???
Hope that helps.

mdshahed said:
the key is to turn bluetooth off in the comm manager everytime you wanna install new programs. i truly believe that installing software with the bluetooth on disrupt something ???
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Honestly, it make no sense to me....

try it!! it will work ...

@mdshaded
I hope youre kidding, I've had BT problem (BT turns off) since I got this phone last year.
With Itje's WM6.5 RC1 I still have the same problem.

I am not Kidding, I tried all cooked and original roms. I had a pocket PC phone for the past 3 years: Trinity, Kaiser and now the Xperia.
Again my dropped BT Connection were with my Car BT system, never with my Stereo BT headset.
try to hard reset and then install Itje V5.5 and keep your BT off until you are done installing all your programs then turn it on and report back.
Cheers

mdshahed said:
I am not Kidding, I tried all cooked and original roms. I had a pocket PC phone for the past 3 years: Trinity, Kaiser and now the Xperia.
Again my dropped BT Connection were with my Car BT system, never with my Stereo BT headset.
try to hard reset and then install Itje V5.5 and keep your BT off until you are done installing all your programs then turn it on and report back.
Cheers
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I had tried more phones (Eten M600, Asus P525, Kaiser, X1), and did a lot researchs and only HTC's one (Kaiser, X1, Diamond, TP, HD ...etc) gives such issue. Not on my Asus P525 and M600. And I had tried many A2DP devices (Sony: DS-205, DS225, DS970, DS980, Clip-D Radio, Jarba (forget what model), JVC-BT1 (car system)) and only HTC devices give me issue.
And your suggestion of turn off bluetooth while software installation make no sense as installation only perform files coping + registry registration which I don't see any relationship from BT issue.

Dear Jack,
I know it does'nt make any sense. but i had this problem on other devices and was always corrected with a cooked rom except with the Xperia..
there is nothing to lose.. just try it..
my phone had no single dropped connection for 2 weeks now.
All the Best.

what bluetooth issue, ive been using hbh ds-200 since ive got the xperia (used on buses, around the house and alot of places) works great and has a further distance than p1i but only has an issue of button compatability. i think it could be the the bluetooth device ur using or the lack of software. may be wrong completley but hear me out ive had it rnning for ages with music on or durig a phone call cause i cant be bothered to pull out of its case to avoid scratching the phone (i know its stupid) but like i said it is working, for me atleast

same problem ...
I'm experiencing the same problem:
my X1 periodically drops the connection to my BMW iDrive while I'm speaking. But, when I'm not in the car I'm using a plantronics voyager 855 and never had a problem ! So there seems to be a problem with specific bluetooth devices.
Before the X1 I had a touch diamond and it worked without any problems with the same iDrive.
Thomas

Dear Thomas,
i am glad that you mentioned your problem with the I-Drive. I did not have a single drop in BT Connection for 2 weeks now. I truly believe that installing some software impairs the BT connection with my I-Drive.
Again never had any problems with Headsets.
My I-Drive Version I believe was newer than V.25.
Cheers.