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Quick tip for keyboard users

I was thinking it would be nice if there was someway to select text using the keyboard (like on a desktop PC) and lo and behold if you hold the Shift (Caps) key down and use the arrow keys it does select text.
Hurrah!

genius!

There's a great guy, Tom_Hiro255, who made this app http://www.nicque.com/PQz/ that allows you to use shortcuts and all sorts of other functions, check it out.
The post is, I believe, either in Universal or Blue Angel...it works on wm5.

Awsome tip. =)

Perhaps this works for you?
Double tap the SHIFT key on the SIP keyboard
Does not work for every app.
Also found ShiftLock values in two SIP modes.
But I don't think they make a difference.
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}]
"ShiftLock"=dword:1
"KBMode"=dword:5
@="Keyboard"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}]
"ShiftLock"=dword:0
"Desc"="With Letter Recognizer you can input natural character strokes as well as strokes you may have learned using Jot® from CIC."
"Accents"=dword:0
@="Letter Recognizer"
Cheers

Any Cingular 8125 Keyboard Tips/Tweaks?

I love the 8125 with the exception of two features, both involving the keyboard.
1. Is there anyway to increase the time that the keyboard backlight stays on? And also, to turn the keyboard backlight on as soon as you open it?
Whenever I slide the keyboard out it's a little difficult to see what's on all the keys, as the characters are a light color and they are on a light-colored background. After you start typing the backlight comes on, but you need to tap one key to get it to light up in the first place. Is there a tweak to have the keyboard light come on when you slide it out? Without having to tap a key? And once it's on, can I edit a setting or reg key to have it stay on until I slide it back in?
2. If you'll notice, the first letter typed will always capitalize as soon as you tap the spacebar after completing the first typed word. This can be nice at times if you're typing in a Word document or something similar. However, typing passwords has become downright frustrating! You definitely do NOT want any letters capitalized when you're typing in a password. Plus the fact that all passwords show only as asterisks when typing them makes the auto-capitalizion hurt more than help. I always have to switch to the SIP when typing in passwords, as I get way too many "incorrect password" popups due, I'm certain, to the capitalization issue. Then, of course, changing to number mode (double-tap the round red dot key)can also be hairy when all you see are asterisks - It's difficult to know whether or not the mode changed when you try to reverse the numbers mode.
I've searched here and on the HoFo site to no avail.
Any help or advice is appreciated!

In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.

In Altissimus said:
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
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Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset

and auto-capitalization can be changed by going to the Input control panel applet, it's on the Options tab "Capitalize beginning of sentence" or somesuch
As for keyboard backlight - no hacks known of for the Wizard :|

BoycottValvoline said:
Hit arrow key down and then the enter key.
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Thanks for that - obvious when you know how!

Thanks for the keyboard indicators - very helpful.
Zeboxx, I already set that option, but it appears to only apply to the SIP - not the physical keyboard.

BoycottValvoline said:
In Altissimus said:
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
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Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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Great tips, BoycottValvoline! Indicator is working fine. That's a big help.
I don't know of anyone who has managed to come up with a way to extend the keyboard backlight, though.I can't find a registry key that addresses the backlight - doesn't appear to be one.

Keyboard Indicator problem
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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I've done this on my 8125 and I get no indicator when I use the hardware keyboard.
Any help, anyone?
Thanks.

I have an 8125 and it worked fine for me.
Take another look and make sure that you entered everything exactly as shown. You'd be surprised how easy it is to be off.
For example, check Start>Settings>Personal>Input>Word Completion and make sure that "Add a space after suggested word" is NOT selected. (If it is, you may be adding a space after the DWORD value without knowing it).
Plus check your spelling - Case and punctuation must be perfect when creating the registry key.
Finally, perform a soft reset afterwards. Now check the bottom of the screen when the hardware keyboard is slid out. (Make sure first that you have a program open that requires the keyboard.) Try hitting the shift key once, then twice. Same with the Function key. Once, then twice.
Once on, the Shift key shows a "C" and makes shift active for one keystroke. Double tap it and CAPS mode is on and the "C" stays there till you tap it twice again.
Function key works the same, but you'll see a solid dot instead of a "C".

Has anyone resolved the problem with making the backlight time stay on longer?

driven01 said:
Has anyone resolved the problem with making the backlight time stay on longer?
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I haven't tried it, but I found this registry key on another site:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
It should be the number of seconds to stay on. Try 30.

Nah, that's on a few sites - but it doesn't work on the Wizard.
It's a hardware issue; no registry fix can do it on the Wizard.

total commander onto 8125?
cna the total cpmmander be downloaded onto 8125? says it is not a pocket pc program when I tried
BoycottValvoline said:
Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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denbobp said:
cna the total cpmmander be downloaded onto 8125? says it is not a pocket pc program when I tried
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If it's an .exe file, you have to install from your desktop through Active Sync. If it's a .cab file, just drag and drop it to your phone the Active Sync's "Explore" option.
Then, navigate to the file on your phone and tap it to begin the installation.

Backlight duration
Sorry to teel you guys , but the keypad backlight duration on the wizard is hardware controlled ! ! ! So no software / registry hack will lengthen / shorten the duration !

is it possible to write a message without

is it possible to write a message on the qtek 9100 (wizard) without using the stylus. When i open the new message menu and input the number i can't move to writing with both cursors on keyboard or 5way joystick...when i press down on both it just moves the scrollbar but not the writing cursor...please help or tell me if it is the same with your wizards...thanks in advance!

if you're using the keyboard you can do it.
type in the number you want to send it to then push the "tab" key and it will move down into the message body.
- Tatusmi

no, this is not the way i tried it...does it happen with your wizard?

The tab key to change fields works perfectly on my wizard...

do you mean fields in the write new mesage menu does the tab change between recipient and text menus?

I'm not sure I understand what your asking...
Tab would take me from the to field to, say, the body field.
Is that what your asking? Are you trying to get tab to do something else? Like cycle through the contacts when you hit "Menu" -> "Add Reciepient"? That I do with the D-Pad...

when i write a new message i input the number and want to start writing the text. but when i hit the tab button it scrolls the scrollbar the same way the navi button does...it just moves the screen "down" but the cursor stays in the phone number field...

Try pressing Shift and then the down arrow on the keyboard.
I noticed this issue when I first got my Mini S however I also noticed that in later revisions of the ROM they have changed this behaviour so that tab, shift and the down arrow both move the cursor from the To field to the body field.

when i press "shift" and then "down" it happens the same as if i press just down or tab...it scrolls the scroll bar at the right...the tab changes the field i every other menu i repeat EVERY except the menu when you write sms...my rom is the latest on te qtek site 2.17.0001 os 2.17.7.2 is there any newer OFFICIAL rom?please tell me that also(;...please verify this thing in the write sms menu not in any menu with fields because the tab doesn't work only there...weird huh?

nasodotcom said:
is it possible to write a message on the qtek 9100 (wizard) without using the stylus. When i open the new message menu and input the number i can't move to writing with both cursors on keyboard or 5way joystick...when i press down on both it just moves the scrollbar but not the writing cursor...please help or tell me if it is the same with your wizards...thanks in advance!
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I hope I have the reason for not being able to jump from one field to the other without using stylus: it happens when you are using smooth scrolling in internet explorer by the help of a third party program i.e. like tweaks 2k2, spb pocket plus etc.
Try to look if you have somehow enabled smooth scrolling, disable it and make a soft reset. After that messaging without stylus should work again.
Hope it helps!
Kind regards
M.

I had the same problem, and this is the solution for me!
You should change the settings in the following key:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\
open key "4-Way Nav" and set value=1

THANKS MAN! I appreciate that you wrote those words for me i hope it returns to you someday...cheers

Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.

Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.

Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.

Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?

Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?

ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications

Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?

short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.

kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?

I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.

muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.

Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?

any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this

I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it

it also shows up at times when you are entering a password

Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

[Q] Cant get rid of compact keyboard

Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI

tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !

If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!

Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.

Mister B said:
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
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Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
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Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
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That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice

Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z

Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655