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HaRET don't bootup linux :(

Hello ,
I'm a newbie and have used the introductions on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaLinuxBooting to boot linux on my himalaya. Unfortunatily the pops up dialog "Launch a script file. Default ..." when i tap on HaRET-0.3.2d.exe . I can't connect to port 9999, too.
Please Help me
Thanks

Hi snowdrop,
the dialog means that your prepared scriptfile hasn´t been found and executed. This could be because you misspelled the name. Keep in mind that all filenames have a 3-letter extension which is not visible in windows. I.e. if your FileExplorer says "startup.txt" the filename is "startup.txt.txt".
Or maybe you installed the startup script in a different directory than HaRET. IMHO it´s easiest to install all 4 files (haret, startup, kernel, initrd) in a separate dir unter \Storage where you don´t have to reinstall it after a reboot.
Don´t hesitate to ask further if this doesn´t anwer your question.
Matthias

Hallo noone,
thanks for your reply. I copied all neccessary file under "\Storage Card\". The filename is "setup.txt" (the filexplorer says startup without extention but i'm sure it is named startup.txt through my activesync under Windows). All files are under "\Storage Card\", (also the HaRET-0.3.2d.exe and startup.txt files). :roll:
Greets

Hi snowdrop,
I'm not really sure about that. It works for me all the time.
Maybe you can track down the problem with a network connection. You have to disable ActiveSync on your host PC and to start a connection with SynCE. This requires usbserial and ipaq as well as ppp loaded into the kernel. When you cradle the himalaya you should get a message from usbserial about the attached device (usually /dev/ttyUSB0).
After synce-serial-configure (root), dccm (user) and synce-serial-start (root) the Himalaya should display the connection sign in the bottom bar. Be careful: ActiveSync on the Himalaya may or may not try to start a GPRS session. This can become expensive sometimes
After establishing the PPP connection from PC to Himalaya you connect to port 9999 (refer to SynCE's documentation about the IP addresses). Then you can enter the commands of the startup.txt script line by line.
HTH
Matthias

Hello Matthias,
what is SynCE? I'm using Windows as host PC.
Are synce-serial-configure (root), dccm (user) and synce-serial-start Linux Tools??? :?:
Thanks

Ok,
i after some hard work (and hardware reset), i'm now able to see the penguin(with red eyes and red thermometer) . But then nothing will be done
Actually I thought, that there is also a graphical user interface for linux. Now my question:
Do you ONLY remote login into your linux and have JUST a console application? Or have you also GUI applications and a desktop under linux for himalaya at the time.
Thanks for your answers

it will of cause never run any linux applications not compiled for it
like windows CE will not run pc windows applications
if you can find a kernel compiled for it
you can use it otherwise you'll have to compile your own
the same goes for a version of x11 and any other applications you may wish to run
though in the world of linux sourcecode is much easier to come but and compile yourself then they are under windows

Hi,
can you give some usefull links about linux application on PDA?
I want too much to run linux under my himalaya .

havent really messed with it
here is another distro for xda not sure if he ever got finished with it
http://www.pigeond.net/photos/xda-linux/
havent kept up on it really
what you have to look for is pretty much
applications for the arm cpu
and you can also look for linux of ipaq and other pda's which use the arm cpu they would also run on the xda
but i havent really kept up todate about the whole project
so i dont know how long any of the project have gotten
and i dont know how many applications can be portet because of graphical limits in the desktop manager like glib
but i'm sure there must be others in this forum who mess around with these things

Maybe the guys at handhelds.org could give you some more info, got lots of help getting linux running on my ipaq 5550 (never quite got it working to my liking though)

Sinchronizing Magigian on Linux with Synce

I followed both steps (usb and bluetooth) with no success...
are there any brave persons that are able to sync this device on Linux?
http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/howto.php (USB)
If yes, could you please tell me which kernel did u use and yours secret tips? :wink:

What's exactly the problem you encounter? I use Raki and synce on one debian machine, but just to connect, show the magicians screen on the pc's screen and copy files between them, not to sync any data (appointments, etc.).
Greetings,
BGK

Which guide did you follow to set it up?
The device is recorgnized by dmesg but i can't connect to it with pppd
Have you tried multisync? It should be the bridge between synce and evolution

I have also successfully used RAKI on KDE desktop (Debian Testing) to connect to the Magician. It transfers files back and forth, with the right iptables masquerading entry (done manually) I can use the Internet, but I cannot sync anything either
I forget exactly what I installed, but everything should b plug&play.
Kernel 2.6.10, Hotplug, Synce-KDE...kernel installed manually, the rest from the Debian dselect program. There are certain things you have to set up with the kernel config.
What distro are you using? Any other details?
Re Multisync; I really do want to get synch'ing going like ActiveSync. I installed it, tried various configs, but I do not get anything in the program... Can anyone else help?

uau, could you please post your software version?
did you pass some arguments to modprobe ipaq ?

uau, could you please post your software version?
did you pass some arguments to modprobe ipaq ?
If you made raki work you should install multisync and the evolution plugin..
it's already in http://www.multisync.org/files/multisync-cvs-snapshot.tar.gz

Hi metnik, sorry for the late reply.
My device is an O2 Mini (aka Magician), information at Settings => System => About, is
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14235.2.0.0)
I did not have to pass any arguments to ipaq module. It did everything auto; I guess it is because of the 2.6.10 kernel.
I have installed Multisync from Debian Testing, and it has SynCE and Ximan Evolution 2 plugins. I have created the synchronization pair with these, but NOTHING happens when I press the "Sync" button.
Raki, on the other hand, works nicely with the USB cable; even the KCeMirror works very nicely (window of the device on your desktop).
The only problem with Raki is the synchroniztion setup errors with "No Synchronizer found for (Contact)..."; i.e. I don't know how to get synchronization working with that either... It really would be nice to have a copy of my address book on my Linux partition somewhere. So far it is only on MS Outlook, which I don't use...:-(
Also, I have bluetooth transfers working between the Mini and my laptop, however, I havent figured out how to get bluetooth working with Raki. It would be rather nice.
Any clues?

TYTN and LINUX Challenges

I am fighting with these challenges, i am near to the final positive result,but still have problems...
I hope you can help me.
1) connect to internet via DUN
2) Connect to internet via PAN
3) Connect to internet via USB modem
4) Connect to internet via USB Internet sharing
5) Browsing and synchronizing the device
These are the little result so far :
1) Installed this cab :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1351044&postcount=21 (thanx to the Author) and DUN is again available.
IT works without problems with Winzoz, but i am not succeeding with Linux.
I made the usual steps (like this post explain, i.e. : http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/20 ) linux finds the modem but cannot make it call... (init strings for the modem perhaps?)
What the init string for the TyTN modem?
Any Hints?
( an A1000 works perfect via DUN and the same stick)
2) I followed this guide (thanks to the author) http://www.klamstwo.org/evad/archives/40
And the whole thing works (bnet is connected with IP address 192.168.0.187 and has gateway 192.168.0.1 ) except the fact that i cannot browse internet pages.
Could it be a DNS problem?
I'll try manual configuration and let you know.
3) I tried the connection using the ttyUSB0, modem is ready but does not initialize... HINTS ?
4) SYNCE or something easier?
5) I think Synce is the answer, but at the moment it does not work in my distribution (mandriva). A lot of problems during installation (RPMs and source compiled, non difference). I'll try again. I've followed the How to published around here, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1550906&postcount=4) but i have problems with odccm... it does not install.
other ideas?
I hope this post could become a sort of "mini how to", combining different issues related to the same argument : TYTN and LINUX
Thanx in advance to everyone who will help.

Are these challenges so HARD?
No one here around uses linux and TYTN?
Let's try solving one by one,
let's start with USB.
I tried this one
http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html
with windoz it is immediately recognized as a usb mmodem, but with linux the ppp scripts waits for "OK" till timeout.
I also tried the old wirelessmodem, the one for WM5, posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306041 ,
but it does not show the kind of connection in the box (it is blank).
I tried to start it even if the box is blank, Windows recognizes it as a serial device, linux gets a lot of "OK" (KPPP) and Tytn shows the message "Please end data call first!"
I also tried this:
http://www.myehud.com/xv6600/usbmodem.html
But when i hit start It says "Not registered to the network!".
This is about Linux and USB moden... perhaps someone of you has succedeed?
Please report.
The other issue would be having internet sharing working with linux and usb ...
So linux users, let's try...

i'm a ubuntu user, and i feel you.. i don't want to run virtual box, so i just deal with no direct pda syncing.
i tried synce, and failed twice, months apart. (probably my fault somehow)
i do however have to use windows at work, so i end up doing most of my flashing and such there.
though, if you find a good NATIVE solution, let me know!

I am using Kubuntu, and can browse the My Documents folder of my PDA, so at least everything is talking to each other. However, I have not got round to configuring the synchronisation side of things; hopefully it should be possible.

Neil,
did you install synceor is somethingnative in your distribution?
Ahd what about the point 1 to 4?
Whether as internet sharing or modem, usb o BT, are you using the Tytn to connect thelinux box to the net?
I am really coing mad, i feel i am so near but i still cannot...
I don't understant why the Pand does not work for example, bnet has the right IP, has it's gatewaqy but still i cannot browse the net...

devilman - no, it was not native; I think it was SynCE, although, I can't be sure. It took some tinkering to get it going, but, now the device is immediately recognised when it is plugged in (USB) and ActiveSync is run.
To get the next stage working, I need to override the choice of library, as it continually tries to use an old version (libsync, I think), even though a new one is installed.
I have not tried 1-4, and, would not be sure how to do them, other than just trying to mount the device as a modem, and then using *99# as the number. In terms of init strings, these vary slightly by service- for example, for Vodafone UK, it is:
Code:
z+cgdcont=1,”IP”,”internet”
(The "z" at front is the AT command for modem reset; it might or might be necessary, but, sometimes helps the connection to work.)

well, I tried, as said in the first post,to use tytn asmodem.
To have it working with BT you have to install the hack in order to have DUn again.
To have it recognizedas a modem you have to put in in in the "modem" status (again, in WM6 wireless modem is not available,so you have to use the old one or the third party product).
In both case the lnux box connects with modem but i son't succeed in having it call the number...
I used the "usual" AT commands, like the "z" and the cgdcount...
Ideas?

I saw you'd got as far as having the device recognised as a modem, but didn't know quite how far you'd got. However, my Linux skills are so poor, I honestly wouldn't know where to go if the standard init. script did not work.
If terms of calling a number, would that not be *99# though?

Please, has noone found out how to have it working?
I am going mad about this.
I need a way to connect my linux box via tytn, usb or bt...
Any hint?

Uhm, for the last one (browsing the pocket pc) I use wm5torage. That turns your pocket pc into a USB disk and Ubuntu easily recognizes that as a removable drive. It is not the perfect solution but it is easy, fast and works.

and...i have another question
can anyone install an embedded-linux on Tytn, i mean use dual-system ?
is it possible?

ss1271 said:
and...i have another question
can anyone install an embedded-linux on Tytn, i mean use dual-system ?
is it possible?
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there is another 3d all for this issue.

devilman said:
Please, has noone found out how to have it working?
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I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 and running the official T-Mobile Austria WM6 upgrade on my Vario 2, Bluetooth PAN works flawlessly:
Code:
sudo pand --connect XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
sudo dhclient bnep0
Back in WM5 days Bluetooth DUN worked as well, using the following chatscript in /etc/chatscripts/provider which I created with pppconfig:
Code:
# This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.3.17.
# Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them.
#
# ispauth chat
# abortstring
ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED
# modeminit
'' ATZ+cgdcont=1,"IP","gprsinternet"
# ispnumber
OK-AT-OK ATDT*99#
# ispconnect
CONNECT ''
# prelogin
# ispname
#ogin: replace_with_name
# isppassword
#ssword: \qreplace_with_password
# postlogin
'' \d\c
# end of pppconfig stuff
and the corresponding /etc/ppp/peers/provider:
Code:
hide-password
noauth
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider"
debug
/dev/rfcomm0
115200
defaultroute
noipdefault
remotename provider
ipparam provider
usepeerdns
of course, for this solution to work you would have to set up the rfcomm port for your tytn in /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
Code:
rfcomm0 {
bind yes;
device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX;
channel 4;
comment "T-Mobile Vario II Bluetooth Dial-Up";
}
you should now be able to connect using the "pon" command.
I hope this post is of some help to you... good luck!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344396
ya, too bad ;(
i still can`t use calendar or contact sync functions.
greets, Nik

devilman said:
4) Connect to internet via USB Internet sharing
4) SYNCE or something easier?
I hope this post could become a sort of "mini how to", combining different issues related to the same argument : TYTN and LINUX
Thanx in advance to everyone who will help.
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Depending on your kernel version (I think this applies to 2.6.21 and greater, but check other docs to be sure), there is a kernel module known as usb-rnds-lite. Get it (links from synce wikis), make it, use it, love it.
I have used it to ICS several devices, 8525, 8925, BlackJack I and II... only quirk is that is works best to start ICS _then_ connect the USB cable.

I suggest you to read this article:
http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=598890
You can also search by Google: "bnep0 pand pda linux"

Using haret with local loopback

Hi everyone,
i'm not sure if this should be posted here or someone did it before.
So please delete this thread if this is a known fact or does not belong here
During experiments with haret on various platforms, i thought about a simple method to get access to the haret console without the need of a host computer.
There's a little trick to make this work:
Every device with some networking features has a loopback IP-address.
The IP of this "network device" is 127.0.0.1 and can be used to access haret console locally, right on your mobile device.
1. Start a version of haret suitable for your mobile device.
2. Tap on the button "Listen for network connection".
3. Start a telnet client on your device (e.g pocketputty).
4. Connect to 127.0.0.1:9999.
That's it!
Works perfect with my hermes and universal, when i'm on the road and need to verify of some internal settings or some register settings
I hope this maybe helpful for anyone.
Cheers,
scholbert

scholbert said:
3. Start a telnet client on your device (e.g pocketputty).
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you may provide a link to the putty .cab file here

It would be nice to at least tell the ignorant ones wtf is haret...

Hi,
thanks for the remarks!
So here's the pocketputty cab.
Have a look for updates here:
http://www.pocketputty.net/
aiiro said:
It would be nice to at least tell the ignorant ones wtf is haret...
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O.K. nice entry
HaRET stands for Handheld Reverse Enginering Tool.
Have a look here to get deeply involved:
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
It may be used to debug and do other investigation on settings in the processor's registers, as well as start some binaries other than wince or winmob applications on windows based devices.
One of it's common purpose is to start a linux kernel on your mobile device for the first time (and much more often afterwards ).
At least it's mainly used by linux developers to check out what has to be done and set to make a linux kernel boot on your device!
Best regards,
scholbert

Linux and PDA

Hi,
after long time without a PDA i bought me a Vodafone Compact IV. It's a great Pocket PC, since it store the timezone and date i entered when shutting down . But i really don't want to use WM anymore. It runs WM 6.1 original.
How do i get into the Flashing things? Where on the WIki are some instructions for it? When i had my wizard i had to know if it is G3 or G4, i had to read some stuff like ISPL or something. But where is a beginnerfriendly tutorial? Then the next is, how do i get Linux working on the device? I know about a tool to dualboot WM/Android. And i also found threads which explain how to run Android from SD card. At first i have to know how to start. That's why i need to know about the flashing.
Is there a bootable Linux image? It's okay for me, to delete the WM Partition, but is this possible? Is there anyone working on?
Might it be a problem that i am on Linux with my Desktop PC? :-/. I could use OSX too, but i don't want to get back to windows.
I hope there are some out, who know my situation. Please excuse my imperfect english
edit: it actually doesn't need to be Android. I would be happy about a working Linux system with package manager. There doesn't need to be X11 and the stuff. But, of course, a Desktop environment would be great
edit2: okay i got a HardSPL'ed device know i am flahsing with SD-card. Thats very nice. Is there a Linux Image out there, which i cann install via SD-card and that runs instead of WM????