greeting from Czech republic, can u help me fix this problem pls?
When i use my Universal at home, there is pretty low level of UMTS/WCDMA signal and full level of standard GSM signal. By default Universal changes between those two sources automaticaly. But in my case, the quality of WCDMA signal is often varying just around critical level. So the result is that Universal changes band to GSM and back. And then again. And again. And... Due this, there is sometimes not possible to make data connection, because Uni is so much occupied by changing bands back and forth...
I would like to find a better solution, than select only GSM manually in phone settings. Especially because i have to unselect it manually every time when leaving home :-(
Is there any way to set treshold value (i expect increase it) for automatic switching between WCDMA and GSM?
Thnx a lot,
BTW: i am using I-Mate 1.90.94WWE with 1.11.00 radio version.
Tomas
nothing?
any ideas or hints?
mikrotom said:
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Greetings,
Go to Settings, click on Phone in the personal settings, then select Band.
In the Select your network type, click the dropdown and select GSM.
Should do the trick
Mav
As i write, I would like to find a better solution, than select only GSM manually in phone settings. Especially because i have to unselect it manually every time when leaving home :-(
Not that I know of.
But you or maybe someone can write an Apps to do so. But maybe difficult.
Yeah I often had the same problem. Switched WCDMA off completely to get rid of it, but indeed it would be nice to be able to use it automatically if it was available at a usable strength.
But then in my case, the UMTS speed and GPRS speed does not differ much anyway. UMTS is capped at 64kbs in my subscription.
For me, UMTS is much faster than GPRS.
But only switch manually to UMTS when needed. Most time, to save battery, I am on GSM/GPRS mode.
UMTS is capped at 64kbs in my subscription.
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man that sucks :-(
r3bel said:
man that sucks :-(
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It's enough for me. I've got a flat fee internet connection for 10 euro a month with T-Mobile. If I want more speed I'd have to pay 20 euro (192 Kbs), 40 euro (384Kbs) or even 70 euro (1.8Mbs). I was amazed I could get unlimited traffic for that amount. Before that I paid 5 euro a month for 1MB with Vodaphone. Not even enough to check my mail!
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Hi everyone,
It's my first post here - most likely not to be my last. Oh, and i know i spelt HSDPA wrong in the title!
I very very recently (yesterday in fact) managed to get hold of my T-Mobile Hermes (one of the .37 batch) and am having no problems whatsoever with the phone, the only problem i am having is getting any web download speeds faster than around 40kbps?
I phoned T-Mobile yesterday and after being on hold twice and explaining myself many times i think i got HSDPA enabled as the lady (who was very nice) said she promises it has been enabled for me. I tried half hour later and sure enough, i used www.dslreports.com/mspeed and could now download at around 800kbps - perfect! Unfortunately i tried again this morning and it says 40kbps again
Is there any way to tell whether HSDPA has been enabled on my phone before i call T-Mobile again? Does HSDPA just run over 3G? I haven't got a brilliant signal where i am - usually 1 or 2 bars, could this be what is affecting my download speed? I need some help!
Just realised i have spelt HSDPA wrong in the thread title - never mind! Can anyone help?
Have you read this dude?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276154&page=5
Theres a couple of files you can check you have i believe, also the Fit4cat program is worth downloading.
40kbps is GPRS data speed. Even without HSDPA you should get 300kbps on UMTS.
Your phone will show a U or a G depending on which network you are on.
It shows a "G" all the time in a little white block next to the signal bar, and sometimes the signal bar shows an antenna and sometimes a "G" also - does that mean when im on the "G" ill be on HSDPA and when im on the antenna (if i cant get 3G) ill be on GPRS 40kbps?
If so that makes a lot of sense as the signal is not brilliant round here, i went shopping in a much bigger town this afternoon and tested again -> full signal and downloading at around 1200kbps! Obviously it is enabled, think its just down to my signal....
Does that sound about right?
RTFM, the G is for GSM ie data will be GPRS.
You will either have a 3G or U depending on what ROM you're running for 3G/UMTS/HSDPA .
I'll be honest i only got half way through the quick start guide before i started playing with it. So, if my phone is always on "G" i'll assume i need to try and unlock it using the fit4cat thing? As T-Mobile have said they have enabled HSDPA on my account?
How did i get 1200kbps on GPRS by the way? It definately said "G" when i was connected and did the speed test...?!
I just ran the fit4cat Hermes tweaker and still no luck, it only connects to "G" rather than "3G", 3G is apparently available in this area so why does it only connect to G? Im confused and would really appreciate some advice...
Well if you probably didn't notice the U (or whatever) when you got 1mbps once it. This means that HSDPA is enabled on your phone and SIM.
The fit4cat tweaker only (dis)enables HSDPA but that isn't an issue because even without HSDPA you would be getting UMTS speeds.
One thing you could try is. Go to Start->Settings->Phone->Band set GSM/UTMS to GSM900+1800 + UMTS2100
You could also try a manual search for networks from Start->Settings->Phone->Networks->Find Network
Finally you can also disable GSM totaly using network type in the band selection and see if you get a steady 3G signal.
Thanks for your suggestions, here are my findings:
kevino said:
Well if you probably didn't notice the U (or whatever) when you got 1mbps once it. This means that HSDPA is enabled on your phone and SIM.
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Good point, i have a long drive home tonight so will check when going through built up areas to see if it connects to 3G or U then.
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One thing you could try is. Go to Start->Settings->Phone->Band set GSM/UTMS to GSM900+1800 + UMTS2100
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Tried this, and phone disconnected then reconnected but still said "G" when connecting to Internet. Set back to "Auto".
kevino said:
You could also try a manual search for networks from Start->Settings->Phone->Networks->Find Network
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Did this also, it pops up with the message "Registering on the network" and disappears and thats it, nothing happens.
kevino said:
Finally you can also disable GSM totaly using network type in the band selection and see if you get a steady 3G signal.
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I cannot find an option to disable GSM in the Band tab, i have the following:
Select your network type.
__Auto
__GSM
Select your GSM/UMTS band.
__GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
__GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
and thats about it. Cannot find anything that would let me not use GSM whatsoever? I appreciate your help so far
It may be the case that your reception for 3G just isnt adequate enough to work where you live, O2 states there is reception in the area where i live but i only tend to get UMTS upstairs....just one of those things....here at uni i get FULL UMTS reception anywhere.
richieboy said:
I cannot find an option to disable GSM in the Band tab, i have the following:
Select your network type.
__Auto
__GSM
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In the dopod ROM it has a WCDMA option too. No big deal !
Seting the band was just so that the phone doesn't bother looking for bands that are not available in this country. To try and encourage it to check the correct UMTS band more quickly.
My suggestion to use find network (you need to select manual search) in Networks wasn't too helpful anyway as it doesn't list the band. So no use unless you can disable GSM.
Of course you may have got a spurious speed test result. How old is your SIM? It needs to be a USIM
Yes firstly is your SIM card a USIM....or is it a SIM card from an old handset?? I think youve already said you have had the 'U' appear on your TyTN at some point.....so again im going with the assumption you just dont have adequate UMTS reception for it to work....hence why you are only seeing 'G'.
So, funny story...
It seems where i was over the weekend (girlfriends) is borderline, so as mentioned aboved i can get 3G upstairs but not downstairs - i decided to drive around and got 3G all over the place...the best news is i get 2/3 bars of 3G at home too!
Problem solved, im an idiot - but hey, it doesn't hurt to ask right?
680kbps! Woo
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So, funny story...
It seems where i was over the weekend (girlfriends) is borderline, so as mentioned aboved i can get 3G upstairs but not downstairs - i decided to drive around and got 3G all over the place...the best news is i get 2/3 bars of 3G at home too!
Problem solved, im an idiot - but hey, it doesn't hurt to ask right?
680kbps! Woo
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girlfrends! Woo
Does someone know how to disable UMTS for the Trinity?
I've searched on the forum but I couldn't find any good solutions
Settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Band -> Select your network type -> GSM.
Try this...
http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html
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Try this...
http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html
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I use this Bandwith app also. However, if you really want to turn off HSDPA and leave on 3G permanently you can use the app on this page called HTweakC http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
I turn off HSDPA because it blocks incoming calls (my carrier's problem). I can receive calls normally with 3G.
Thank you for that Band Tool. I'm a little confused by something, though. Does it save battery life to disable UMTS? I don't need any 3G functionality at all currently, so does it make battery sense to disable UMTS?
Thanks very much.
WilliamG said:
Thank you for that Band Tool. I'm a little confused by something, though. Does it save battery life to disable UMTS? I don't need any 3G functionality at all currently, so does it make battery sense to disable UMTS?
Thanks very much.
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I beleive that it will. UTMS drains the battery quicker as the phone searches for cells more frequently than it does on GSM
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I beleive that it will. UTMS drains the battery quicker as the phone searches for cells more frequently than it does on GSM
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Thank you. Is there a way to make the Band Tool work every time you turn the phone on? If I turn my phone off and on, the tool resets and I'm back to 3G mode.
Thanks again.
Check out Trinityhacks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300783&highlight=trinityhacks
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Check out Trinityhacks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300783&highlight=trinityhacks
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Thanks again for the reply. I installed TrinityHacks, but it's a little confusing with the whole band selection. I see auto, or GSM+UMTS selections. I don't see a GSM without UMTS. Did I miss something?
Bandswitch settings should persist through a soft reset- mine certainly do. Make sure you leave anough time for the registry changes to save before exiting the program, or doing a soft reset.
UMTS typically uses 3x the current that GSM uses as 3G is a much weaker signal. so the gain needs to be much higher. And in marginal reception areas, the constant hunting between bands further hits the battery
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Bandswitch settings should persist through a soft reset- mine certainly do. Make sure you leave anough time for the registry changes to save before exiting the program, or doing a soft reset.
UMTS typically uses 3x the current that GSM uses as 3G is a much weaker signal. so the gain needs to be much higher. And in marginal reception areas, the constant hunting between bands further hits the battery
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Well I find it all bit a confusing! Gah! I uninstalled that Band Utility, and installed the Trinity Hacks. Not sure what setting to use to make sure it's 2G. Am I correct in assuming that G at the top of the screen means 2G, and 3G = 3G?
Yes
G=GSM; 3G or U = UMTS; H= HSDPA, (but only shows during data exchange)
Ah ok thanks for that! I think something got messed up, because before it would say 3G at the top of the screen, and my network was identified as UMTS Vodafone. Then I installed that Band Utility and switched to GSM only. Then I uninstalled that Band utility while I was on GSM only. So now I'm stuck on GSM, even when switching UMTS on in the Trinity Hack program. I'm so confused now.
Have you tried Phone/Menu/Options/Band and setting the top box to Auto?
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Have you tried Phone/Menu/Options/Band and setting the top box to Auto?
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Yes, it's on Auto right now. I don't even see the *specific* GSM-only setting. Maybe Trinity Hacks doesn't have this feature?
*AH I got it*. I reinstalled Band Switch, put it back to Auto (so 3G worked again), and then uninstalled it. Trinity Hacks now works!
Thanks for the help!
I'm looking for an application that switches my phone to 2G when it's locked and back to 3G when in use. This, because I don't need high speed data during this time and I hope to save battery time with this option.
I've searched this forum and googled, but I haven't found any application yet with this functionality. Is there an app or script that can do this?
I know the battery of the HD is good, but I would still like to have it.
Actually I was thinkin excatly the same earlier today. My device is set to receive push to mail all day long, and its sleeping more than half of the time. However when I use it I would like to have full 3.5G connection. So it would be nice if in sleep mode it just reverts to 2G connection, which is fine for push.
+1
I think you should post in the Q&A section with a [REQ] header
I thought the battery-life of the HD is better with 3G than with 2G.
I know this sounds wired, but I think I read this on some pages.
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Actually I was thinkin excatly the same earlier today. My device is set to receive push to mail all day long, and its sleeping more than half of the time. However when I use it I would like to have full 3.5G connection. So it would be nice if in sleep mode it just reverts to 2G connection, which is fine for push.
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From what i understand, there is an issue with software add-ons controlling the data band settings - which is basically what you are looking for. Phone alarm allows you to create profiles for different events and supports band switching - i.e when at work you could set it to 2G and when at home 3G. However, due to way the HTC devices, in particular the Touch Pro, Touch Diamond, and HD implement the data band switch, Phone alarm is unable to make these changes. This is a known problem, and to my understanding there is currently no work around. I have not found any application that has made this work on these devices.
Would be interested to know if anyone has found a solution
HTC Touch HD has higher standby time on 3G than it does on 2G!
So having 2G wastes more battery. I think this thread/request has no merit at all.
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HTC Touch HD has higher standby time on 3G than it does on 2G!
So having 2G wastes more battery. I think this thread/request has no merit at all.
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Woud tend to agree with this statement, however 3g reception where i am is a lot lower than 2G reception - so would this not result in more power consumption? I guess it also depends on other network conditions as many have argued that 3g uses more than 2g even though the specs state differently.
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HTC Touch HD has higher standby time on 3G than it does on 2G!
So having 2G wastes more battery. I think this thread/request has no merit at all.
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How do you know? What program can be used to check this?
You need to investigate a bit how 3G and 2G work. Totally different technology...
Due to the way power is regulated to the antenna, 2G is capable of far superior ranges, but that is not free. There is a reason "flight mode" exists.
Trust me, in a good implementation 2G will use much more juice than 3G.
I wouldn't worry about it. Get a higher capacity battery if you need longer standby. This is not a solution.
Thanks. I didn't know that.
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You need to investigate a bit how 3G and 2G work. Totally different technology...
Due to the way power is regulated to the antenna, 2G is capable of far superior ranges, but that is not free. There is a reason "flight mode" exists.
Trust me, in a good implementation 2G will use much more juice than 3G.
I wouldn't worry about it. Get a higher capacity battery if you need longer standby. This is not a solution.
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Jut out of interest, if this is the case, why is talk time far less on 3g suggesting more power? Appreciate that standby and talk times are seperate issues.
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I'm looking for an application that switches my phone to 2G when it's locked and back to 3G when in use. This, because I don't need high speed data during this time and I hope to save battery time with this option.
I've searched this forum and googled, but I haven't found any application yet with this functionality. Is there an app or script that can do this?
I know the battery of the HD is good, but I would still like to have it.
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Try vSetBand
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You need to investigate a bit how 3G and 2G work. Totally different technology...
Due to the way power is regulated to the antenna, 2G is capable of far superior ranges, but that is not free. There is a reason "flight mode" exists.
Trust me, in a good implementation 2G will use much more juice than 3G.
I wouldn't worry about it. Get a higher capacity battery if you need longer standby. This is not a solution.
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Sorry for my english but ...you'r wrong
First of all 3G will ALWAYS use much more juice than 2G,not only because of the output power :
Class 4 (2 W) for GSM900
Class 3 (0.25 W) for UMTS/HSDPA
Class E2 (0.5 W) for EDGE900
Class E2 (0.4 W) for EDGE1800
Class 1 (1 W) for GSM1800​But the output power is not the way to determine the consumption
HSDPA protocol is very complex and implementing IP stack for HSDPA is very difficult .There is only 3/4 contructorswho have the potential to do it...the others just do integration. HSDPA need at least a 400 Mhz processor to use the entire functionnality of this protocole and to manage IP stack and manage the maximum rate....so 2G will not use the processor as huge as 3G.
During data transfert :
Average supply current for an HSDPA modem is about 900 mA.
Average supply current for an GPRS modem is about 180 mA.
And further more, in idle mode (GSM), modem most of GSM modem are about 40 mA.
(I worked for Sagem)
Ive used HD tweak to disable all data connections when i trun my device into standby, thus consuming no additional power anyway,
I get about 4 days out mine with it off and 2.5 with it on so its worth it for me
i've been looking for something similar to resolve the issue of dropped or missed calls while the phone switches from gsm to 3g or hspda. It would be good to be able to switch 3g functionality off when you don't need it. vsetband looks interesting if you speak dutch!
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... There is a reason "flight mode" exists...
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Oh i forgot, "flight mode" exists because when roaming, IP connexion goes from one BTS to another BTS (and with the speed at take off) its goes to several BTS which take enormous ressources and some problems for the mobile operator. So this is why mobile operators lobby on airline to forbid use of phone during take off, there is no technical issues for that "flight mode" it is only because it overloads operator servers.
Type *#*#4636#*#*
Select Phone Information
Choose WCDMA only
this worked thanks!
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Type *#*#4636#*#*
Select Phone Information
Choose WCDMA only
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What happens if no 3g is available? Does this apply to the uk as well?
at&t
two questions:
1. Will this enable 3g use on at&t's network?
2. Is it possible to revert?
1. No
2. Yes, just tap in the same code and switch it back.
You can switch back by using the same code.
If you do not have 3G while this is set to 3G only you will not have any data service, unless you switch it back.
It will not make 3G work on ATT (different frequency)
for those who weren't paying attention when they did this, the default setting is "WCDMA Preferred".
i dont understand why you wouldn't leave it as that????
neilosb said:
i dont understand why you wouldn't leave it as that????
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Well, because if you are out of 3G coverage area, you don't have and data coverage any more, no web, no email, no syncs, no map. nothing.
Wow, Thank you for the trick, after I did the trick, I tested my 3G speed 4 times to make sure it, My 3G speed is increased greatly. Before this trick I only got about 480 kbit/s, now I tested 4 time I get average 780 kbit/s. That is cool!
Thank again.
I was wondering if there is a way to lock onto ONLY umts and not hsdpa? It can sometimes take forever to load web pages because it is constantly searching for hsdpa. I am also wondering if you might be able to get better battery life this way as well?
I don't think battery life is going to be different since it's still technically a 3G connection. But if it is really searching for HSDPA a lot then it -may- make a difference.
Are you on T-Mobile? It seems that I'm on HSDPA at all the times, pretty much.
switching between 3g and HSDPA is not the same as switching between EDGE and 3G
As the poster above says 3G and HSDPA are basically the same technology using the same frequencies so would not make much difference to battery life.
Dont forget that on the stock rom it always displays 3g anyway so you cant see if you are using HSDPA or not.
Also this phenomenon seems to vary as to what network you are on, mine mostly stays on H anyway.
From memory the early 3g handsets that did not support HSDPA topped out at about 300kbps, not sure if that translates to the 3g symbol not the n1 though. not sure if thats what you would want, as its not much faster than EDGE anyway? so you might as well force EDGE only and save battery life
changing bands 3g only
yes this is possible. Go to your phone dialer and enter the following: *#*#4636#*# .you will go to another screen, select phone, scroll down and there is a drop down box that shoud say wcdma preferred. Select wcdma only and that should give you 3g connectivity only. You can change back or select other settings from this screen. You can choose what works best for you in your area. It should slightly improve battery life, since it is no longer looking for other connections. If you have poor 3g service in your area, then you probably do not want to select wcdma only. I hope this helps. I have done this on my rooted n1 and a non rooted n1. As long as you only change this one one setting it shoud not harm your phone.
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yes this is possible. Go to your phone dialer and enter the following: *#*#4636#*# .you will go to another screen, select phone, scroll down and there is a drop down box that shoud say wcdma preferred. Select wcdma only and that should give you 3g connectivity only. You can change back or select other settings from this screen. You can choose what works best for you in your area. It should slightly improve battery life, since it is no longer looking for other connections. If you have poor 3g service in your area, then you probably do not want to select wcdma only. I hope this helps. I have done this on my rooted n1 and a non rooted n1. As long as you only change this one one setting it shoud not harm your phone.
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Good answer, but totally NOT what the OP was asking. He wants to know if there's a way to lock the phone to UMTS and not HSDPA... the answer to that is NO... because both are 3G, as someone else already alluded to.