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hi
can anyone play this file with real player ppc?
http://www.radio.rai.it/live/radio1.ram
on pc, it plays
on ppc (xda/mdaII) no
why? thanks!!
official link:
http://www.realnetworks.com/industries/mobile/operators/products/player/ppc/
Its a stream from the net so it should work.. but listening to the radio via the net on your PPC would probably run up some hefty GPRS bills.
Its in .ram format, so it should work fine as long as your GPRS is connected.
thanks for your reply
the rai link provided it's only a 33kbit audio file
the following file is only 20kbit:
http://www.radio.rai.it/live/radio1.ram
when opening a ram or rm file it always tell me:
"Response or data from server timed out"
i've search a solution on this page, but without success:
http://service.real.com/help/player/realone/pocketpc/realone.html#troubleshootingyourro
thanks for any help! ;-P
I've tried many times and many links to listend and see streamed media via Real One,also with newer version.
Only 2 of 25 i've tried worked.
In fact,I don't know why they do not work.
Saluti
thank you ;-P
is your error alway the same?
thanks!
i think it depens from the pocket pc version
on real site they always write "ppc 2002)...
any other suggest?
can anyone help me please?
this page works on pc:
http://www.realnetworks.com/mobile/pocketpc/usa/entertainment_movies.html
but on my xda/mdaII not
the error is always the same:
"Response or data from server timed out"
on the official real player web site they invite customers to try their page!
http://service.real.com/test
but NO demo play with windows mobile 2003...
how it's possibile that REAL didn't try it's most famous software on the last windows mobile?
uhm...
I contacted Real about this a while ago, and they seem pretty clueless.
As you mentioned, none of their test files work, yet their response seemed to deny any problem on their end, to the effect of saying "some streams may not be compatible, contact the source of the stream".
Just plain useless if you ask me.
Now if only Radio4's listen again site did windows media (which works, er, 40% of the time)...
Incidentally, did you know Auntie Beeb is planning on a video service for their TV programmes? High quality 320x240 optimised encodings of their past week's programmes (ideal for PocketPC, in fact they've given a lot of PPC devices to their staff to test). Could be fantastic.
thanks for your reply
any other suggest?
how it's possible that no one have my problem?
real player really doesn't work on windows mobile 2003?
it' a big BUG!!!
It could be 2 things afaik
1 realplayer doesn't like nat. It needs to open aa connection back to the mobile device to send the data. The device opens a control channel, and the streaming server opens a streaming data connection. Why does it work on the pc? either the pc has a non natted public ip address, or the player falls back to streaming via the control channel, this isn't happening on the ppc player.
2 ppc realplayer doesn't like http streams and only supports rtsp streams
thank you for yout technical reply
i can only reply on point 2:
the links provided (rai) directyl redirect to rtsp streams files
if you watch the clip info during the first loading, real player ppc show the correct rstp location
i'll try with ppc2002
last year it worked with wifi connection
always seems ok (configuration & requirements):
http://www.expressresponse.com/cgi-...st_name=&last_name=&email_address=&telephone=
http://www.expressresponse.com/cgi-...cument&search_input=JSS_0019.html&session_id=[[session_id]]
but it doesn't work
damn real! :twisted:
i've compliled a support form on real web site, let's wait for their reply..
Its got to be a problem with REAL, as every stream ive tried in windows media player always seems to work.
I didnt manage to get any of those test streams to work.
yes!
with microsoft media player almost all files play in streaming!
Just found buried in O2's website:
Question 5:
Can I use Realplayer with Xda?
Answer:
Yes - all content stored on Xda will be usable. You are not able to stream Real content using O2 MobileWeb at this time.
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So I guess they block the necessary ports. No idea why they would want to, but it's their network after all.
guys,
i've got a really straight question which probably gets complicated by specific scenarios but i'm hoping to collect in this thread all your feedback and experience so that i can make my final decision whether to buy or not...
...can you STREAM videos from your computer / router ( mine is 802.11b but i can buy a 802.11g if needed ) to the K-JAM without experiencing saccades ?
...i'm talking about .avi ( divx,xvid, mostly, some .mpg too ) files NOT CONVERTED to low rez or specific PDA bitrates usually around 700MB long ( yeah, movie rips ) I DO NOT want to recode for PDA viewing.
is there a difference in playback performance with videos of "weird" resolution ( 99% of my videos are NOT 640x480 precisely or 320 x 240 either ) ?
...if it's hard to playback for the WIZARD, do you think it's possible ( better ? ) to run TERMINAL SERVICES and have the PC perform the playback while the WIZARD only receives the image stream ?
THANKS A LOT for your feedback on this matter; this is really the one "to buy or not to buy" feature i'm looking for in the WIZARD.
=)
PS - on a side note, how would you judge viewing a movie on your WIZARD screen ?
is it too small for you ?
THANKS !
croquette said:
...if it's hard to playback for the WIZARD, do you think it's possible ( better ? ) to run TERMINAL SERVICES and have the PC perform the playback while the WIZARD only receives the image stream ?
PS - on a side note, how would you judge viewing a movie on your WIZARD screen ?
is it too small for you ?
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Not sure about the other questions but I can answer these.
You can't use Terminal Services to view video. It is far too slow, and only 16 colours so it would not work.
I am upgrading from the XDA Mini to the K-JAM, both of which have 2.8" QVGA screens, and viewing video on the 2.8" screen is fine. It looks better than my previous 3.5" QVGA screen because of the higher density of the pixels. You can't really see the black between the pixels. Its great!!
If you haven't purchased by Wednesday next week, I may be able to try it for you. I should get my K-JAM then
Without trying it, I would have to say that it's probably not possible to run full-size divx/avi/wmv from your wizard over wifi. It has a hard time just playing PDA-size videos off local storage.
It would be interesting for someone to confirm it with empirical evidence though.
I have only read good reports of video playback on the K-JAM.
Ive streamed many video files to my xd2i and now my exec...........occasionally it can slow up or re-buffer, but thats part of the the fun lol
You might need a different player to WM10 though, something like the Core player (TCPMP) does the job
Did anyone try to Stream Beyond TV to the Wizard ?????
can you see shared folders on your network? or do you just put in the URL/address manually to stream those videos?
i use www.orb.com
but i'd love to work out how the hell i can browse network shares via wireless on my wizard
you can see network folders if you have Resco File Explorer and then click on the file to play it. I don't think this works on WM file explorer and its a pain to enter a network address into the file field (to long). I haven't tried it with DIVX or MPG yet. but when I tried streaming with WMV I get an error. something about parameters. any ideas?
use pocketlan.
(or resco)
I can stream full size divx (movies from bittorrent) ok on my jam with wifi card but it does buffer quite a bit
the g might make a difference on the k-jam...
I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...
adebilloez said:
I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...
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sounds like you get further than me then.. i just get a nasty error when i try to even open a share thats got full access to anyone
I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...
Well guys let me tell you that you can stream videos or music from your pc to your pocket pc via wifi anyway you have to install Windows media encoder to do this process and you will be watching the videos or listening to music from the Media player on your pocket pc ;D
Hello,
Already tried with WMEncoder 9 always get this "error" I guess that it's something with DRM but it's not...
When I use other device (WM2003 with wifi) Pocket WM works well...with my brodcasting PC
I think it's something with WM5 (not able to do wifi with my 3th device 2020 with Buzz1.6c czuz I don't have Wifi SD...) or 9100 ROM..
If anybody can test "built in" (ROM) app using shared resource
it will be great ...
guys,
have anyone among you lucky owners of a K-JAM finally managed to stream an .avi movie ( 700Mb and not 640x480 or 320x240 ) from the PC to your smartphone through an 802.11b or 802.11g wifi connection without saccades yet ?
i still fail to find confirmation of this online, and i'm hurting everytime i talk on my dying cell unable to upgrade just yet because i couldn't find the answer to this question to make up my mind...
=P
...i'm hoping you have some good news.
THANKS !=)
no and even 320*240...
ok, a month and a half has gone by since my first post, and i was wondering if you guys have had enough time to play with your new cell to give feedback about this specific topic... :roll:
i'm stuck with an almost useless phone until i upgrade, and i would REALLY join the WIZARD group...
PLEASE HELP ME !!!
adebilloez said:
no and even 320*240...
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Nope video stream is poor via my mda vario approx 50 %
Vario has only b wifi not g
ern
Just tried it with a 640*360 DivX file and its no good, but then having said that its prettymuch the same when i run the same file from the SD card. doesn't seem to like the decoding on the fly
Hi all. Has anyone tried streaming TV using WMP10 (& PocketstreamerPro) and managed to get it in FULLSCREEN? I'm really getting peeved off with a viewable image the size of a stamp!!
Videos are OK in TCPMP, but it doesn't support streaming TV.
Or does anyone know of any plug-ins for TCPMP which allow it to stream? really need some help here..... :?
The latest tcpmp beta (1.71b IIRC) support tv streaming and mms. You should give it a try. For other format, try PVplayer
thaihugo said:
The latest tcpmp beta (1.71b IIRC) support tv streaming and mms. You should give it a try. For other format, try PVplayer
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Thanks for that thaihugo. I'll check that out!
thaihugo said:
The latest tcpmp beta (1.71b IIRC) support tv streaming and mms. You should give it a try. For other format, try PVplayer
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Hi again. I'm struggling to find that version of tcpmp that you quoted. I can only find version 0.71. Is that the same? Probably not! Could you point me in the right direction of a download link please? Cheers.
I'm pertty sure 1.71 was a typo. Get the latest version here:
http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about
Yes, sorry for this. The version 1 is planned soon, and we are still at zero versionning. BTW, PVplayer is only for operator coded TV or movies. TCPMP is suited for a lot of streaming channels, and can also guess the link of the stream if you provide it with the URL of the containing web page in the file open dialog.
You REALLY can stream Internet TV through TCPMP on wifi!!!
thaihugo said:
Yes, sorry for this. The version 1 is planned soon, and we are still at zero versionning. BTW, PVplayer is only for operator coded TV or movies. TCPMP is suited for a lot of streaming channels, and can also guess the link of the stream if you provide it with the URL of the containing web page in the file open dialog.
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Hi again. I actually bought PocketstreamerPro, only to find it way too restrictive and quite useless (as WMP 10 only shows TV in a small window and I can't find a workaround for it).
I fiddled around with TCPMP to no end, and to no avail I might add. But then I checked back to find your response, which implies that you can definately stream through TCPMP using the 'File Open' menu. Well, as there was nothing to link to (I had no format for storing the URL), I couldn't do it.
So I found a website called TV4all.com and copied some of the URLs there and typed them into the URL bar in my browser, which opened up Windows media player on my desktop PC. There I saved it as a '.mru' playlist (also checked in associations in TCPMP in addition to HTTP and MMS) and copied that file onto my storage card. TCPMP could and did find this and presto! I'm now streaming in full screen to my betaplayer (it takes a while to actually start working though). I now have access to potentially hundreds of Internet TV channels! I will explore further, but is this the way you do it? or do you have a much simpler process? feedback is most welcome right about now!!
Thanks for your help thus far though.
mackaby007.. i can view fullscreen streaming using my 02 mini on WMP. no problem at all...
spin_x said:
mackaby007.. i can view fullscreen streaming using my 02 mini on WMP. no problem at all...
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thats because you're using mini while he's using a VGA device, the universal
The file open dialog is to input a mms:// adress, or the http:// of a webpage linking to your content. If you input the webpage, you will get after that the list of all available streams on this page.
Hi, I have a question...
I have this app called "Streaming Video" under Programs. I guess it was there ever since I had this. I havent used it though coz I dont know how. I wanted to try video streaming but I dont know which RTSP url to put.. WOuld you know anything about this? Thanks..
.... additional: i tried opening azn.tv and saigontivi thru the video streaming app and its not working..
Anyone got any good pages that just offer direct links to the feeds ? Nearly every site I find you have to go through multiple pages and some of them wont even show properly.
On your wizard, go to this address: http://m.youtube.com
The videos load perfectly and work 100% using Internet Explorer (the videos automatically open in the streaming video player thing). I think YouTube just set up this site today(to test for the upcoming iPhone), but it works perfect on our wizards as well! Try it!
Nice, got there but when I try to play a video I get an unspecified error on Windows Media. Does this work with WM5 or I must install something?
I'm not sure about WM5, never tested it (i'm using WM6 XDA-MOBILE 6). When I click on a video, it opens in the streaming video player that was bundled with XM6.
Anyone else have luck? I got mine to work ^_^
Only works from certain cell providers!
Seems as though YouTube's only sharing the love with certain cell providers... I was able to successfully test the site using Cingular. The site didn't work using my 8125, Wifi & my local cable ISP!!!
Site loads Video does not on T-Mobile USA.
I just tried it on Faria's WM5 with wifi!! Works great!!
I can't get it to work. I've tried opening m.youtube.com and clicking on video opens media player 10. These are 3gp files (?). It just says "Unspecified error".
WM5 / MDA vario.
Even i got the same error with WM5.. anything else need to be downloaded..
Maybe we WM2005 users should install a codec or something? What does Faria's WM2005 ROM have? I'm on a spanish WM2005.
Post your provider and connection method.
Because Youtube and fodavone officially announced their service in NL so it might have to to with ip ranges or provider networks for it to work.
I checked it over T-Mobile NL and it worked BTW.
It indeed opened up in the streaming player that i found useless at first.
Running Faria Crossbow Real Thing ROM.
Faria's WM5 3.3 has streaming video installed. All I do is navigate to m.youtube with PIE and select a video, it automatically pops up streaming video and it plays.
I'm on Cingular/ATT and it works with WIFi and GPRS.
It has absolutely nothing to do with your provider. I tested on my cingular 8125 running XM6, on both T-mobile and on cingular and it works fine (although I recommend using it through wi-fi, as the videos can take a while to load if you're stuck with a slow gprs connect).
Need HTC Streaming Media Cab For A WM5 PPC
I have the HTC streaming media cab for wm6 smartphones and it works perfect with mobile youtube. You can get the smartphone download cab here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309433&page=3 ! Go to post number {25} for the download and details Now I need the wm5 ppc HTC streaming media cab file for ppc. Can anybody help me or direct to where I can find the ppc version HTC wm5 streaming media cab! Thanks in advance!............!
i use official tmobile AKU3.8 which has streaming media preinstalled. however when i tried to play clips from youtubemobile, i got 'failed to find network' error. i used wifi. anyones having the same problem?
fikrinasir said:
i use official tmobile AKU3.8 which has streaming media preinstalled. however when i tried to play clips from youtubemobile, i got 'failed to find network' error. i used wifi. anyones having the same problem?
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I have the same issue in XM6. GPRS or WiFi....weird how some are working
it works for me if i open the streaming media player and input the link myself. If i just click "watch video"on the web page, it opens in real player and gives me an error. How can i make it default to the streaming player?
Intergalactic said:
I have the HTC streaming media cab for wm6 smartphones and it works perfect with mobile youtube. You can get the smartphone download cab here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309433&page=3 ! Go to post number {25} for the download and details Now I need the wm5 ppc HTC streaming media cab file for ppc. Can anybody help me or direct to where I can find the ppc version HTC wm5 streaming media cab! Thanks in advance!............!
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I have the player installed, but only get audio distorted) no video. Is there a URL I can put into the RTSP box to get both audio and video?
8125
So, unless someone can tell us what fario's WM5 has in it... I'm personally stuck using this method that I just stumbled upon this morning. I guess the only ugly part is that I have to copy the ID part out of the URL, and past it into the little 'youtubedownload' program. Then, explore over to the downloaded file to play it in TCPMP.
I wish, I wish, It would pop up from my browser after clicking it from there, like fario's code does. (what programs does it use?)
The 3 files in the link below are the 2 plugins, that need to go into the plugin directory of TCPMP, and then the .exe that is the download util. .Yea, Ugly.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6402.html
Your Device!
mikeofaustin said:
So, unless someone can tell us what fario's WM5 has in it... I'm personally stuck using this method that I just stumbled upon this morning. I guess the only ugly part is that I have to copy the ID part out of the URL, and past it into the little 'youtubedownload' program. Then, explore over to the downloaded file to play it in TCPMP.
I wish, I wish, It would pop up from my browser after clicking it from there, like fario's code does. (what programs does it use?)
The 3 files in the link below are the 2 plugins, that need to go into the plugin directory of TCPMP, and then the .exe that is the download util. .Yea, Ugly.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6402.html
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Is your device the MDA or another device? The TCPMPplugin is out dated, the link above is for wm6 smartphones! Tell me just what you are trying to do!
Wm6 Smartphone Download Only
hotdog53 said:
I have the player installed, but only get audio distorted) no video. Is there a URL I can put into the RTSP box to get both audio and video?
8125
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This dowload will not work on PPCphones running wm5/6 os, if you are running wm6 software on your 8125 I can tell how to fix that problems!
Hi!
Im currently searching for this application:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ZflgE4kXs
Its a program that lets you recive Dreambox restreams from a computer, i think its name is Mobile Grab Client but i can't find it anywhere. And iam not searching for TCPMP.
I will give 10$ to the person that first writes me a working link or something where i can find THIS application and its server. Payment will be done with Paypal.
The reason for posting this in this forum is because i have a smal memmory of reading about it here first.
//Mautana
hope this helps : http://translate.google.com/transla...cket+pc&hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=XaU&sa=G
Well i already know how to stream, i need the application that changes channel and also to start streaming in one application.
Hi,
Is this the one : MobileGrab
(Its in french)
Thats a negative! Keep on searching folks!
Mautana said:
Well i already know how to stream, i need the application that changes channel and also to start streaming in one application.
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The Mobile Grab client in the youtube video is launching TCPMP in full screen.
TheMostToys said:
The Mobile Grab client in the youtube video is launching TCPMP in full screen.
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I already know that, as said iam not searching for TCPMP. The app iam searching for is The Mobile Grab client!
so it's an application which selects the correct url and opens it up on TCPMP.
where do we find it ?
anyone interesed ?
i know this post will be deleted & i will most likely be called an idiot but it your trying to broadcast your television from home and tune it on on your mobile device....then you can use www.slingbox.com
nobody will call you idiot, but it is not a good way to do it.
if we have capability of directly connecting and streaming why put another node ?
so nobody has this little piece of software ?
Why buy a slingbox when the Dreambox seems to be capable of doing it itself? Any way, long time has passed and my quesion still is, does any one know how to get this software?
yep. still waiting...
Closest thing i could find...
http://m4rtin.dnsalias.net/re-stream/index.php?page=installation
From what i've seen with this app, it does what you want it to do.
Since it's opensource and written in PHP, i think it can be modified to contain pre-selected settings just for PDA viewing.
Btw, i think you can forget about just a single program without a middleman doing the transcoding, since the Dreambox is incapable of transcoding its stream.
What the Youtube video could be is a website showing links to all the channels, and by clicking on them it launches TCPMP with the stream.
moullas,
you are wrong. why ? because Dreambox uses mpeg2 streaming which is the easisest codec to decode for any client type. That's why a middleman is not required.
And if we had the VLC player for ppc, we could watch directly Dreambox channels.
Here is the VLC player for PPC
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1545
unfortunately it does not run on Hermes (as far as I remember)
that's why I tried to compile it from source a while ago but I couldn't succeed.
if it runs well on anyone's wm6 device , please let us know.
mrmrmrmr said:
moullas,
you are wrong. why ? because Dreambox uses mpeg2 streaming which is the easisest codec to decode for any client type. That's why a middleman is not required.
And if we had the VLC player for ppc, we could watch directly Dreambox channels.
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What do you want VLC to do that TCPMP or CorePlayer cannot?
Well that restreamer seems to be okay, but its not as simple as that application that he uses. Maby i should try it... The problem for me isnt that it need to be compressed true another computer but that i need the simplicity from the application, cklick and play!