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Do you have this Problem after Busy Tone?

When you dial a number, assume your own number, and it gives you a busy tone.. i normally click on "END" hardware or on Screen. But does this happen:
The sounds on your Jasjar Disapear?, for example, click on START u will not hear the Tone. and even there is a notification u wont hear it! unless you:
- Restart Jasjar
- Dial a Normal Call ( Not busy one)
Do you have this problem? Any solution Around?
Thanks in Advance

Redirect a incomming call to the mailbox?

Hi,
Can someone tell me how a can redirect a incomming call to the mailbox when I don't want to answer that call?
I only can decline the call and then the caller gets a busy tone and know that a pushed the call away....

Settings>Phone>Call Forwarding>Get Settings...
Make sure "No Answer" is ticked and diverts to your mailbox number.

elyl said:
Settings>Phone>Call Forwarding>Get Settings...
Make sure "No Answer" is ticked and diverts to your mailbox number.
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Thanx for your help, but that one I know... :lol:
What I want is to stop the phone ringing and push it to the voicemailbox!
Now I have to wait 30 sec before the call is redirect to the mailbox...

In conjunction to "elyl's" suggestion, if you don't want to hear the phone ring, then turn the volume off. Otherwise you need a 3rd party software like Phone Alarm.

zerimar said:
In conjunction to "elyl's" suggestion, if you don't want to hear the phone ring, then turn the volume off. Otherwise you need a 3rd party software like Phone Alarm.
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but sometimes you just don't wanna talk to a person that is calling you... and I don't mean because I'm busy or something just push it away to the voicemail.
I use Phonealarm but it didn't give me the option when the phone rings (with a certain person I don't wana talk to) push it to voicemail!
So now I leave it ringing and then it goes to the mailbox at last.

I've just tried it on my Magician. If you press the red/end button right after it ring then the call is redirected to the voice mail.

hmmm, when I push the red button it gives a busy tone to the caller...
Thanx for trying

do you have the other call divert (when busy, when out of range, etc.) functions active?

Must be an operator-dependent thing then, cos when I reject a call it gets sent to the mailbox. Dial into your mailbox and see if you can change the settings.

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do you have the other call divert (when busy, when out of range, etc.) functions active?
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Yes when I don't pick up or when the phone is off it go's to the mailbox.

this is for you......good luck trying to get it to work....i didn't have much time (spend about 1hr trying to get it to work)
http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/csb/csb.aspx

Finaly it is working!!
I just re enterd the voicemailbox number and send it again to the telecom provider.... :?
Thanx again for your help and testing...

great to know that you have it finally working

One day I learned (by accident), that if you use the hardware volume button while the phone rings, it will mute the ring tone. That way, you can let it "ring" in silence for the duration of the 30 seconds before it forwards to your voice mail.
I use the vol down in these situations, but I think it also mutes on vol up.

Wizard when calling Answering Machines...

I have a Cingular 8125... and there would be times I'd be calling say my service provider...
Usually an answering machine would be picking up the call and tells you to
press 1 for...
press 2 for...
... and so on...
How the heck do we do this? This seemed to be my only problem with our beloved Wizard... pressing the touchscreen doesn't do anything, and pressing the keyboard won't work either...
Anybody have their own solution???

Go to Settings Phone Keypad drop down menu and select Short or Long tones, I use Short tones.

I don't think that the situation has got nothing to do with long/short tones... and anyways... I didn't find any tones list under settings/phone keypad option...
any other clues???

I think you misunderstand, the options are, Long tones, Short tones, and Off.
The reason for telling you to enable the tones was so we would know if your phone is producing the sounds.
This is just step one in the process of elimination, so just enable the tones, then report back and let us know if it’s still not working.

why ringtones only ringing for 17 secconds

no matter what ringtones i use they only ring for 17 seconds is there a setting or way to alter this.
and how can i silence an incoming call. id like the option to answer the call or press a silence button so the other caller still
thinks the call is ringing and that the call has not just been rejected.
thanks

lancsuk said:
no matter what ringtones i use they only ring for 17 seconds is there a setting or way to alter this.
and how can i silence an incoming call. id like the option to answer the call or press a silence button so the other caller still
thinks the call is ringing and that the call has not just been rejected.
thanks
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Sounds like your calls get diverted to voicemail after 20 seconds (takes approx 3 seconds for the phone to ring on an incomming call). Setting your divert can be network dependant, but if you go into phone settings, there is an option called "divert" which yoy can change. Be warned - if on vodafone or other similar networks, the network handles the call diversion. However if you change this, you may be charged for the phone diverting calls to voice mail.
To mute the phone on incomming call, simply turn the phone face down on the desk. This should mute the ringer. If this does not work, you need to install HD Tweek or similar to set this option.

yes mate your right my phone does get divertd to voicemail but i was getting 29 seconds i think it was on my nokia n95 when that was set to divert. on orange you cant set divert on or of by the phone you have to ring the network but cancel divert.
as for the silence calls on flip if i have the phone in my pocket and someone calls the flip does not work as i have no surface to lay it flt on i just tried it .
so if anyone else has no solution the only thing i can think of is
1 cancel call divert with my network and hope there is a third party software that can manage my voice mail . any recommendations ?
2 any recommendations of any software to silence calls by press of a button ?
thanks

ok i managed to get the ringtone to ring longer before it goes to voicemail .
the settings for that are acually in the phone ardsar says but how can i get the
phone to silince callls without turning the phone over .
im looking for a press of a button method.
thanks

Press one of the volume buttons when your phone is ringing

blimey so easy eh when you know how .
cheers mate appreciated

or you can dial this number
**61*insert your voicemail number here*11*30#
if you then hit the call button and enter this your phone will ring for 30 seconds before going to voice mail.
cheers

Weird HTC's "Missed Call" concept

The HTC's "Missed Call" concept is amazing and very _annoying_ to me.
Tell me if I'm the only one or there are others who feel like me.
Here's the problem:
Generally speaking, when someone calls you, you have three options (irrespective of the phone you use):
1. Accept (answer the call)
2. Reject (cancel immediately the incoming call)
3. Ignore (let the phone ring until the caller or the carrier quits the incoming call)
Now, when I get called on my TD2, I have 2 options: "Answer" and "Ignore".
In fact HTC's "Ignore" is functioning as what normally is called "Reject".
But, Ignoring and Rejecting are two different things.
If I Reject, it means I don't want to take the call and the caller understands that right away.
If I Ignore, for the caller it means either I don't want to take the call or I cannot answer for various reasons.
But HTC has messed up these concepts.
The problem is that if I intentionally reject a call (Ignore according to HTC) that call is still reported as a Missed Call (plus the green flash).
Now, I've never seen on a mobile phone a rejected call to be registered as a missed call.
I don't pretend I've used all mobile phones in the world, but I have never encountered this concept.
... and it's annoying.
I want to be informed about the calls I "MISSED" not the calls I've deliberately rejected.
Am I the only one annoyed by this?

are you reffering to the slide options (left / right) or to the button below the slider?

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are you reffering to the slide options (left / right) or to the button below the slider?
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Yes. When you get a call you either slide to "Answer" or "Ignore".
However, "Ignore" is really rejecting a call.
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@Bothkill
I am bothered by this too. I always thought when I was ignoring a call the ringtone was going to silent but the caller was still ringing a bit like on Nokia's.

Exactly, this "concept" of ignore/reject it's also annoys me! Not mention the missed call when you reject the call ! This is weird also for me !

Correct me if I'm wrong since I do not have the phone, but can't you silence a ring by turning the phone over (face down) in essence, ignoring the call?
Another neat trick is something that the accelerometer makes the phone NOT do; the simple act of flipping the Diamond over on its face puts it immediately into silent mode. No more embarrassing rings during meetings.
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from here: http://www.laptopmag.com/review/cell-phones/htc-touch-diamond.aspx
I realize this is a link to the original touch diamond but I thought the feature was still in tact on on both the Pro2 and Diamond2

Correct me if I'm wrong since I do not have the phone, but can't you silence a ring by turning the phone over (face down) in essence, ignoring the call?
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Yes, you can, it works.
the simple act of flipping the Diamond over on its face puts it immediately into silent mode
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It works too

Also here, very annoying.
Not speaking for muting the sound, but rejecting call and it's going as missed call.
It's stupid.

When you get call in TD2 you will have slide for "Answer" and "Ignore" and another button for "Mute Ring".
Any mobile will have 3 types of call in the register: Incomming, Outgoing and Missed.
Incomming Calls: 2 Types:
a) Received
b) Missed
So you can "answer" the call using "Answer" slide: This will register in "Incomming" calls.
"Reject" the call using "Ignore" slide: This will register in "Missed" call.
Why??? You might have rejected the call for many reasons or you may want to know the calls that you have rejected, so Missed calles. This is EQUAL to the actual MISSED Calls, where you did not see your phone when the call came in.
And "Mute the Ringtone" using "Mute Ring" button. This will register the call based on your response with slide button as above. May be Received or Missed
And Finally you have "Outgoing Calls".
So can you specify if the calls that you reject does not get register under "Missed" where it should go?
For me the Call register of HTC TD2 using WM is perfect

prabhat said:
For me the Call register of HTC TD2 using WM is perfect
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Did your previous phone(s) worked like that (i.e. registering Rejected calls as missed)?

Bothkill said:
Did your previous phone(s) worked like that (i.e. registering Rejected calls as missed)?
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Where it should go? or where does it goes in your previous phone(s)?

As far as I know, all the WM phones (standard & professional) act this way. Rejecting a call (or ignore in HTC) as well as pressing the hang up hardware button will rejister the call as a missed call (with the corresponding led notification).
As for regular phones, my older SonyEricsson phones used to behave in the same way. But Nokia phones actually treat rejected calls as recieved calls & not as missed calls.
Each type of behavior has its own benifits & disadvantages. But it would be nice if we could choose which behavior the phone does since WM phones are highly customizable.

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But it would be nice if we could choose which behavior the phone does since WM phones are highly customizable.
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This will be really great some senior registry guy should reply this with the related change

Missed calls are calls missed!
Prabat is correct, it does make sense....
if you rejected a call or ignores it, it means you missed that call coz you did not answere it, make sense right?
whatever your reasons are for not taking the call or by rejecting it, STILL you didnt took the call so simply means you missed it.
unanswered calls either by ignoring or rejecting SHOULD be listed under MISSED calls and thats common sense....

Suppose I have to take the train to get somewhere.
If I tell you I have missed the train what do you make of it?
That I failed to reach it in time or can it also mean that I was there just one meter from the train but I refused to get on it?
MISSED means I was not there, couldn't make it on time etc.
Common sense tells me that a missed call is a call I missed to acknowledge (i.e. missed to take any decision about it: answer or reject).
P.S.
Thinking more about it, I understand that you mistake "call" for "conversation" and HTC does the same.
What you describe is a missed conversation.
But call and conversation are two different things.
When somebody calls you (and I'm not referring only to telephony) if you answer the call, the conversation starts.
But when I don't hear when somebody calls me, then I missed that call, (i.e. I have a missed call).
As a phone user I am interested of being notified about the calls made to me and which I was not aware about.
To better describe the difference between call and conversation:
Somebody calls me.
I answer (I accepted the call).
I immediately cut off the phone connection (no conversation occurs) --> I have a missed conversation since I didn't talk with the other person.
The end result: no missed calls, one missed conversation.
The HTC Diamond 2 doesn't notify me of any missed "things" because I didn't miss any calls (and I agree with it). But I have missed a conversation and my phone doesn't know that.
The phone's job is to notify me about missed calls, and not about missed conversations.
Imagine the following dialogue:
Wife: Hey dear, why didn't you answer my first call?
Husband (drunk): Oh.. no.. dear... I missed it..!
Wife: You liar!
Husband (drunk): Oh.. no.. I can prove it. Look my led is flashing, it means it could be your missed call, let me check..
Wife: Oh no you bastard, you rejected it on purpose, but you're using that weird HTC "Missed Call" concept in order to look innocent. You've drinking with the boys again, haven't you ?!!!

at least thumbs up for the very fanciful story

Even I feel that the "Rejected" calls should go into "received calls" list.
I thought that my phone had a software problem. Now I know.
But, even if the call goes in the "missed calls" list, maybe it can give a notification that the call was deliberately "Rejected"...
Any help would be greatly appreciated since this problem is bugging me.
Thanks.