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Shock, Horror!!! TomTom seems to have done quite well!!

Hi Guys,
As you may have read from previous posts, TomTom & I have had a very stormy relationship! Add to that huge memory leak problems on my XDA IIi & I was sure that Nav5 was going to get the usual thumbs down, but after removing the O2 Active UI by following the instuctions here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18963
(didn't even need a hard re-set!!! :lol: my memory is fine now.
Loaded Nav 5 onto my unit from update CD
Then loaded all the maps from the 6 CDs (Hmm, that bit is still very naff but better than with Nav3), they won't quite fit onto 2 1gb SDs, & activated the free trial of TT Plus.
Then I drove from Sudbury, Suffolk to Dover via London, using the GB map, then on to Belfort, France (near Swiss & German borders) I always go via Luxembourg to avoid the french tolls. put in Belfort and Main Roads of EU kicked in from main app. it immediately asked if I wanted to avoid the toll roads, clicked yes & lo & behold it found my tried & tested route! Impressed! What's more it din't crash once :wink:
But when you get an incoming call it cuts of your GPS connection but then (most of the time) it re-establishes it (tho sometimes you have to re-configure, but that's now a lot easier if you use a TT receiver)
Last night used it all the way to Roskilde, Denmark, tonight we're off to Kristiansand, Norway. So far so, very, good!!!!
See! When something's right I big it up! I don't only whinge about the negative bits!!!
So far it's a big well done to TomTom for this version (XDA IIi-wise anyway)

Same here matey. Recently installed TT5 with GB maps only onto my XDA 2. No problems at all, connects within 20secs, never crashed yet and even works when receiving calls on my bt headset. GPS doesn't disconnect and when I hang up, it shows me at the correct location.
GENIUS

ive got an XDA2i and my TT5 seems to crash more often than not. especially when searching for POIs (ie take me to nearest petrol station... CRASH)
i admit i am using a hooky version, but if it's this bad i wont be buying it! (which i intended to)
im running an XDA2i with corporate install (no O2 Active UI) and an aftermarket bluetooth GPS.
its also annoying that TT5 disables bluetooth when you quit, and its v. awkward to re-enable it whilst driving (its a little button afterall...)

I'm using a hooky version too. TT5 £10 from ebay!!! Works like a dream. I've got an XDA II, removed 02 Active UI.
Bluetooth doesn't disconnect when TT5 is ended. I must be so lucky!!

jim galbally said:
ive got an XDA2i and my TT5 seems to crash more often than not. especially when searching for POIs (ie take me to nearest petrol station... CRASH)
i admit i am using a hooky version, but if it's this bad i wont be buying it! (which i intended to)
im running an XDA2i with corporate install (no O2 Active UI) and an aftermarket bluetooth GPS.
its also annoying that TT5 disables bluetooth when you quit, and its v. awkward to re-enable it whilst driving (its a little button afterall...)
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I'be got a ~5mb patch which will fix this problem, EVERY time I turned on certain POI's it would crash
Not any more and it seems MUCH more stable.
If you've got anywhere I can up it, let me know.

jim galbally said:
ive got an XDA2i and my TT5 seems to crash more often than not. especially when searching for POIs (ie take me to nearest petrol station... CRASH)
i admit i am using a hooky version, but if it's this bad i wont be buying it! (which i intended to)
im running an XDA2i with corporate install (no O2 Active UI) and an aftermarket bluetooth GPS.
its also annoying that TT5 disables bluetooth when you quit, and its v. awkward to re-enable it whilst driving (its a little button afterall...)
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Jim, there is no way of knowing what bugs can arise when using patched/cracked software. I never use bluetooth gps either since I got an xda because I see so many problems, also if its for car use only I think a wired gps is more practical/reliable.

@ PC_Arcade:
You could always post the patch here, but if not then you could always PM me with the patch, it would be HIGHLY Appreciated!!!!!
Cheers!!!!!!!

OK, I've PM'd you the patch
Please could you upload it to the ftp for me (I'm @ work and I can't use FTP) so it can be linked here?

cruisin-thru said:
Jim, there is no way of knowing what bugs can arise when using patched/cracked software. I never use bluetooth gps either since I got an xda because I see so many problems, also if its for car use only I think a wired gps is more practical/reliable.
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...TomTom5 is known to have a lot of bugs, even for legit users. I've had every version of TomTom and every major release sucks till they patch it..

@ PC_Arcade:
If the patch is too large for PM, you could always email me!
Thanks again in advance!
Cheers!!!

it's just over 5mb, too big for hotmail too IIRC

dangel said:
cruisin-thru said:
Jim, there is no way of knowing what bugs can arise when using patched/cracked software. I never use bluetooth gps either since I got an xda because I see so many problems, also if its for car use only I think a wired gps is more practical/reliable.
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...TomTom5 is known to have a lot of bugs, even for legit users. I've had every version of TomTom and every major release sucks till they patch it..
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Just for the record I am a legit user and I like TomTom 5 just for one reason and that is the street signing, its like somebody is holding the sign out for you to read as you go along, neat.

OK, the patch is here
I have been totally unable to upload it onto the ftp here
Could someone please move it to there so I can change the link?

Thanks VERY much for the patch Arcade, have yet to test it, but I'm sure it will help. Installed it into the "2577" folder, is that correct? Its the only one with "ttn.cab" in it.
On a seperate note I want to install TomTom on the main memory of my XDA, with the maps still on SD card. I've heard this helps. Anyone know exactly which folders I need to copy to memory? Is it all, except maps? How will TTN know to look on the SD card for the maps though ?
Chop - thanks for success story, I brought the XDA and TTN5 expecially for a road trip around europe in a months time. Although I'm taking paper maps for backup, I was hoping I would be able to rely on TTN5. Don't think thats gonna happen now.

foaf said:
Thanks VERY much for the patch Arcade, have yet to test it, but I'm sure it will help. Installed it into the "2577" folder, is that correct? Its the only one with "ttn.cab" in it.
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Not quite, you need to copy all the files in the rar over then run the .cab file. which will re-install TTN5
For safety's sake it might be work backing up your data.chk file as well.
On a seperate note I want to install TomTom on the main memory of my XDA, with the maps still on SD card. I've heard this helps. Anyone know exactly which folders I need to copy to memory? Is it all, except maps? How will TTN know to look on the SD card for the maps though ?
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The easiest way is to reinstall tomtom using the patch I posted and just install it to main memory, it will automatically use the maps on the card
All I have on the storage card is the GB map directory and an empty tomtom directory, hope that helps
Chop - thanks for success story, I brought the XDA and TTN5 expecially for a road trip around europe in a months time. Although I'm taking paper maps for backup, I was hoping I would be able to rely on TTN5. Don't think thats gonna happen now.
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TTN5 is fantastic, I can't remember how I lived without it :lol:
It's incredibly stable now too, although I did have to create a blank directory called tomtom on the SD card to get 7 digit postcodes to work

to make the postcodes work you need to put the file in a folder called zip in the root of the sd card.

Hi all
Could you tell me which file i have to put in the ZIP folder on the SD card?

@ pc_arcade : Is it the poi.dat file that is patched or the ttn.cab ?
Will it only work for GB map or for all maps ?

pleun said:
@ pc_arcade : Is it the poi.dat file that is patched or the ttn.cab ?
Will it only work for GB map or for all maps ?
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It's the content of the cab file that contains the patched files
AFAIK it works for all maps, can anyone confirm?

Can you tell me how to get full (7 didget) postcode working please ?????

XD Mini not seen by WMP 10?

Hi all
I have tried searching the forums but found nothing on this subject.
Does anybody else have a problem with MS WMP 10 not seeing a connected XDA Mini S as a portable device? Come to think about it, this also happened with WMP9. And with both O2 ROM 1.5.x and 2.21.
In detail - WMP10 permits me to try to set up music synchronisations, but then doesn't list the XDA even when it is connected. It even offers me some helpful advice: to connect to a portable device with at least 32MB, but since this device isn't listed that's not much good!
Any ideas out there?
Julian

Hi,
I am facing the same issue. It was working just fine till today, now when I try syncing WMP10 it just doesnt see the device.
Soft reset/reinstalling WMP10 dint help either....now I am wondering what next to do...

Try re-installing ACTIVESYNC, had this problem last week and re-install of AS solved it.

Fixed!
bny castro - you are right! Reinstall Activesync and all is fixed1
Cheers,
julian

glad it all worked out for you

TomTom 5.21 hangs with 2GB SD Card

Hello all
I've done lots of searching on here and elsewhere and I've found lots of useful info but no definitive answer to this...
Until recently I was using TT5.21 with the original GB-only map on an unbranded 512MB SD card on my 3-year-old Himalaya (02 XDAII) with no problems. I then upgraded to the TT5 v6.60 Western Europe map and needed a new, larger SD card. Realising that my Himalaya is of advancing age, I avoided the latest high-speed cards and settled for a basic Kingston 2GB card.
Since then my TT has periodically frozen - often in one particular spot that I pass regularly, always whilst travelling in the same direction (edit: I pass the spot most days travelling both east and west but TT only freezes when going west). I have put this down to the well-documented issue of the Himalaya having insufficient oomph to power both the card reader when it is reading the TT map and the phone handshaking with a new cell.
I have uninstalled some little-used apps from storage memory and used the slider to allocate as much memory as possible to programs (original 02 WM2003 1.72 ROM). This has improved matters somewhat (I presume that the Himalaya does not have to read the map so often, thus reducing the chance of this activity coinciding with a cell change - am I right?) but I still get occasional freezes and only a soft reset and restarting TT sorts it out.
So far this has only happened on the open road and hasn't caused me too much trouble yet. However if I was in the city on an unfamiliar route it could get me into big trouble!
My question is - would a ROM upgrade sort this out? what about an updated driver for the card reader (is there such a thing or is it built into the ROM?)? am I using the wrong spec of SD card? or is it a hardware problem with the Himalaya that can never be fixed?
I have also read that an MMC card may solve the problem as it doesn't use as much power - any comments?
Thanks in advance
The Doctor

Sounds familiar..the only solution for me, was to obtain 2gb mmc card, and that solved my problems. I also had kingston 2gb, which was said to be compatible, but really wasn't.

Fixed!
Hi all
In the end I took Jarno's advice and switched to a 2GB MMC card. It's now been in use for several weeks with not a single freeze - thanks for the tip, Jarno666!
Of course, now that I've posted this the damned thing will of course freeze on the way home...
...the upside being that if it doesn't, I will know that it is really, really fixed.
Cheers
The Doctor :

Of course, now that I've posted this the damned thing will of course freeze on the way home...
...the upside being that if it doesn't, I will know that it is really, really fixed.
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It didn't, so I guess it is.
The Doctor

TomTom sound off when starting

Hi there,
Is there someone using TomTom Navigator 6.03 and experiencing the same strange thing I do?
Everytime I start TomTom the sound is off; the sound off icon is on screen. I have to tap Turn on sound in the preferences menu twice in order to have the sound turned on and to have the icon disappeared.
When I exit TomTom and start it again, the sound is turned off again.
Annoying and no idea how to fix that. Deleting the navigator.cfg didn't help.

MapSettings.cfg in the current Active map folder - is it set to read only per chance? - Mike

JayRayMee.NL said:
Everytime I start TomTom the sound is off; the sound off icon is on screen. I have to tap Turn on sound in the preferences menu twice in order to have the sound turned on and to have the icon disappeared.
When I exit TomTom and start it again, the sound is turned off again.
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Hi. I am having exactly the same issue here with TT. I've checked my mapsettings.cfg file and it's not read only...The only thing I can think of is it is because my map is installed on the microdrive, not an SD card
Any help appreciated too!
Merlin

Mapsettings.cfg is not read only and my maps (everything on TomTom) is installed on the Storage Card.
I have exactly the same installation running on my Touch as well, and no problems at all. Seems to be something on my X7500 then.... but what!!???

I am having exactly the same problems, it's been driving me potty! TT is installed on storage card, no idea whats causding it!

Same problem here...
However it started when I updated it from 6.01 back on my old Wizard. That worked properly. I did discover that you don't have to go to Prefs... you can get the sound back on by tapping the joystick to the right. Also, it doesn't happen when it's on AC power, but only on battery.

jsp91470 said:
However it started when I updated it from 6.01 back on my old Wizard. That worked properly. I did discover that you don't have to go to Prefs... you can get the sound back on by tapping the joystick to the right. Also, it doesn't happen when it's on AC power, but only on battery.
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Not a bad workaround, just wish we could find what was causing this.

Just to clear things out, but who has this problem with official and legal versions of TTN 6.03? - E.g. has it something to do with cracked/patched versions?

Mine's legal...
Although I'm starting to regret messing with TomTom. Their customer service is awful. Unless your device is one the approximately 5 devices they officially support, they'll wash their hands of you if you call for help saying your device is "not compatible." I called for support on my Wizard, which to be exact was a Cingular 8125. That phone is not on their list of compatible devices, but its twin, the T-Mobile MDA, is on the list. I called and said I had an 8125 and they refused to help me. I hung up, called back, and said I had an MDA. They tried to help me, but when they didn't have an instant answer for me they just said, "Sorry, we don't have that problem on ours" and started spewing out useless canned knowledge base articles. For heaven's sake, the MDA and 8125 are the SAME PHONE! Also, don't tell them you have WM6, because WM6 is "not compatible." Basically, if you have to call TomTom support, lie through your teeth. I'm waiting for OnCourse Navigator, due out in October or November, and then I may abandon TomTom.

Just to compile information...
OK Let's see:
1) I got my TT6.03 legal with legal maps and I got the problem.
2) Running my old legal TT6.01 I didn't had the problem.
3) If I do it using Prefs I need to activate twice the sound in order to get the mute removed
4) I got the problem running on baterry, using the oficial car charger and using the wall charger. I got the problem all the time no matter what power source I'm using.
5) The "Move Joysting to Right" workaround works great. Thank you very much. That don't solve the problem but makes my live much easier.
So... that's the point. I'm running TT6.03 (legal) over WM5 ROM in spanish.
Best Regards,
mahjong

So.... resuming: it's TomTom Navigator 6.03 with the combination of the HTC X7500/Athena.
The problem isn't there while running 6.03 on a HP iPAQ hx4700, Qtek 9000 and HTC Touch.

I have 6.030 on WM6 English on my Athena and I don't have this problem...

I don't have this problem either. I'm using version 6.0

LOL !!!!
Ok man !!! Is your connection GPRS/EDGE/UTMS/HSDPA is online ?
Because if there's an active connexion Tomtom start allways with the sound off.
Try to disconnect before launching Tomtom

Gsyltc said:
LOL !!!!
Ok man !!! Is your connection GPRS/EDGE/UTMS/HSDPA is online ?
Because if there's an active connexion Tomtom start allways with the sound off.
Try to disconnect before launching Tomtom
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Then that goes for version 6.03 only. With 6.00 it didn't matter wether the data connection was active or not.
Anyway, I need to stick with 6.03 and live with the mute problem, since 6.03 can work with my voices stored on storage card (instead of MD) and performs a fix in only seconds (instead of 1 - 1,5 minute).

No sound after starting TT6.03
I have the legal version of TT6.03 and I have the problem too. I only have this problem when my phone is connected to the internet using gprs, umts or hsdpa. If their is no connection I do not have this problem. It also happens on other devices for instance the HP iPAQ 6340 and it is a know bug. TomTom know's about it. It will be solved in te next version.
QAN

Gsyltc said:
LOL !!!!
Ok man !!! Is your connection GPRS/EDGE/UTMS/HSDPA is online ?
Because if there's an active connexion Tomtom start allways with the sound off.
Try to disconnect before launching Tomtom
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BINGO!!! We got a winner here ladies and gentlemans.
Mine has the connection online all the time due to my push-mail solution (Blackberry Connect). I did some test shutting down Blackbery Connect before starting TT and "the problem" just gone.
Thank you. Anyway since I must have connection online all the time the "Joystick move to right" trick is great for me.

TomTom6 Sound
Guys great thread, I am glad to see someone else is struggling with this strange issue. Its really no big deal, its just annoying. Any updates on this issue yet?

And here was me thinking it was my *cough* test *cough* version. Loving the 'fix' taa v much. I might have to write a mortscript that recycles the data connection, rotates the screen and starts TT.

tomtom 6.02-7910 works fine
I also was having problems with tomt 6.032 but the problems does not seem to exist in tomtom 6.02-7910

Sound lag when listening to music

When playing music I often get small breaks during MP3 playback. Half a second of silence or something like that at random times about 5 minutes apart.
It does not matter what player software I use. This problem is also very common among the HTC Diamond users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412065 .
Do you have the same problem? I bet you do .

strange, ive been using my phone everyday as an mp3 player and i havent heard it skip even once.
Does it lag with every song, or are there specific songs where it lags. Are there any that absolutely never lag? Also what kind of headset do you use for listening?
edit> Also, what ROM are you using?

It is not really a skip, it is just a very short pause. You would not notice it in noisy environment. I tried 320bps, 192 bps, 128bps. Everything the same, lower bps are little bit better. It also helped if I set playback priority to higher (in MortPlayer or CorePlayer), but it did not solve it.
It seems like some higher priority process tries to do something and at that point sound lags.
It does not matter if I use headset or play on speaker.
I have this ROM:
ROM version: 1.40.401.2 (21259)
Radio: 0.27.30.09
Protocol version: 12.27.30.09W

strange very strange, i use my jade about 2h a day as mp3 player and i never have that kind of problem..
i generally use the default player... try with that a tell us it works...
ciao

I have the same problem.. But only when i'm using my bluetooth A2DP headset. Seems to get worse when i "move" my phone quickly, like when i'm running or riding a bike and the phone is in my pocket. I also experience random speedsups after the music skips, like the media player is trying to catch up or something..

I use a bluetooth headset too, and no problems, even when ive got several things running at the same time. Maybe its a ROM problem. I can imagine it being real annoying but its not something all of us have so i would just try to get it fixed or get a new one.
btw my ROM is version 1.40.401.2(21259)

Same problem here!

Please write to HTC about this problem. If they tell you they do not know about this problem, they would LIE, because I did tell them .
I found a way around this: Use Windows Media Player only for playing MP3 files. WMP is a pain, but it works.

From HTC Support center !!!
Dear valued HTC customer, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns. You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with your Touch 3G. To clarify your issue, you stated that you are experiencing pauses when listening to music on the device. I recommend you synchronise the music on your device by using Windows Media Player 11 on your computer. Also, I recommend you test mp3-files on the device. If this has no effect, I recommend you perform a hard reset as this might be a software issue. A hard reset will delete all data on the device and reinstall Windows Mobile. We recommend you do backup of the data on the device before attempting a hard reset. If you have an encrypted memory card in your device, we advise you turn off encryption before doing a hard reset. To do a hard reset, go to Start - Settings - System tab - Clear storage. Here you will be asked to type 1234 in the box and press Yes. This will start the reinstallation process. If the above steps do not resolve your issue, we invite you to visit the support area on our Web site. Please go to: http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx Or you can go to: http://www.htc.com/select_country.htm, select your country and then click on the Support tab. You can also call our call center if you have further questions. Thank you once again for your continued patronage. Best regards, Europe customer support team HTC Corp. Global Service Division

Hi
Is music stored on Micro SD card? If yes try storing on internal memory, if OK playing from onboard memory then suggest reformating card. I had performance issues with card when using apps that continually transfering data from card, would get "lag", but browsing card etc. was fine. Formatted as FAT32 in windows using USB card reader and then all OK.

Hey fenikso!
I'm sorry, but I never discovered a problem as per description. Not tested A2DP yet. I always store my music files on sd card, I think like the most of us. Runs perfectly.
I`ve formatted my sd card as the FAT ( not FAT32 ) system. Maybe your solution of the problem?
Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Bump-ti-bump.
Still experiencing this problem. Haven't upgraded to the lastest official rom for the Jade, will try that and see how it goes. With a wired headset, the problem doesn't present itself, so i guess that rules out the micro-sd card inside the phone.

do have exactly the same problem, but reversed. while i was using bluetooth headset, never experienced audio lag. Then BT headset died, bought PortaPro, and here we are... contacted HTC support, told them about, they want me to do hard reset and stuff... when i pointed them to this forum, as this problem seems to be related to many new HTC models, and they did not contacted me since then.
So i listen to music with gaps...