QUESTION: how to stop the text/IE icons from wearing off?? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

ok so i have a wizard and this is my 2nd one.. and my text message envelope and my IE icon have worn off yet again! now t-mobile is sending me a new wizard because i called and cried about this so it will be here on tuesday. how do i prevent these icons from "rubbing" off? im a picky person so when they start to wear off i have a heartattack! any help would be great! thx

Do not touch them.

I've heard from many people to apply a lite coat of clear nail polish. But I never got to trying it.

Interesting - my MDA Vario doesn't have this symptoms (I use those buttons a lot in one-handed Messagign / IEM mode). They must be using some kind of better paint?

Weird never had that problem.

Mine have all just about come off as have a friend of mine's MDA.

That is, is there difference between devices rebranded by different rebranders / carriers? I mean I use these two buttons on my MDA Vario a LOT (one-hand operation rules!) and the icons are like new.

I don't have that problem eather!

I hope this doesn't sound facetious, but if the fact the logos are half-destroyed and looking scruffy is what bothers you, then I recommend you simply scrape them off completely.
You don't particularly need them. I have my 'browser' button assigned to Opera anyway, so I don't want an IE logo there. And the T-mobile logo bothered me, so I scraped that off too. Lots of people have done this (see other threads) - just use the edge of a coin to 'push' the paint away with vertical strokes.

The reason its rubbing off on some devices, and not rubbing off on others because some have these icons painted, and others have it engraved. For example my I-Mate K-Jam has them engraved, so no matter how many times i use them, they won't wear off. Now on the T-Mobile MDA (US) they're painted on, so they will rub off.
My suggestion would be to get the front soft keys from a K-Jam(or other device that has them engraved) and swap it out with yours. That would void your warranty ofcourse.

Izzard-UK said:
I hope this doesn't sound facetious, but if the fact the logos are half-destroyed and looking scruffy is what bothers you, then I recommend you simply scrape them off completely.
You don't particularly need them. I have my 'browser' button assigned to Opera anyway, so I don't want an IE logo there. And the T-mobile logo bothered me, so I scraped that off too. Lots of people have done this (see other threads) - just use the edge of a coin to 'push' the paint away with vertical strokes.
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ok the problem with scraping them off is they are painted on which will cause the blue tooth led and the signal led to shine through and it looks horrible so i will try the clear nail polish idea and on the MDA USA there is no t-zones icon its simply the mail icon and the IE icon which i like both.. im picky

Are the icons on a Cingular 8125 painted or engraved?

The Sale of Goods Act entitles you to a product free from any deficiencies on the finish. The paint falls off these things like no-mans-business. Technically, all UK customers (I dunno about American law) could demand to have the products recalled and to be refunded shortly before the Tytn comes out so that we have some cash to throw at it.
That is not to mention the stylus issue.

MethodMan said:
Are the icons on a Cingular 8125 painted or engraved?
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painted.
I haven't had ANY problems with mine coming off at all.
I would just suggest you don't go rubbing dirty/greasy fingers on your buttons and they'll be fine.

what happens in my case is the constant in and out of my pocket action causes the paint to slowly wear

I have my US MDA since March 2006 and the paint on mentioned buttons is half-worn. BUT, it looks like the symbols are engraved AND painted on top. Same thing happened to the small dash signs on the soft-keys - now they look even better than before! The paint was obstacle, and now since I have engraving only, they are semi-transparent and backlit with green and red button LEDs (since they are SEMI-transparent, there is no difference in color between left and right one).

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Poor build quality.

I see other people have posted the problem with the stylus coming loose over time.
I also noticed today that the paint inside the ie button and to a certain extent the messaging button (the buttons above the screen) has been removed, it seems due to taking the device out of the holder all the time.
Anyone else think this is realy poor
Paul
yes i too think its a little lack-lustre.
the internet and messaging buttons logo's have both lost 90% of their paintwork.
i think it wont be too long until my keyboard becomes a little too easy to open. after all its only two little plastic notches which cause it to "snap in and out" once they have worn down a little then its gunna get ugly
thefunkygibbon said:
yes i too think its a little lack-lustre.
the internet and messaging buttons logo's have both lost 90% of their paintwork.
i think it wont be too long until my keyboard becomes a little too easy to open. after all its only two little plastic notches which cause it to "snap in and out" once they have worn down a little then its gunna get ugly
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Is that true ? I am going to buy one, you talkng about Qtek9100 or K-Jam or both???
i have kjam, but both are the same in terms of build
heres a cross section of the slider in action... when you pull it out the little notch "snaps" into the recess.. and the same when you close.
seeings as its just plastic i have a feeling that that will eventually wear down with use. i already think its become looser than it used to be from only having it a month
I have the qtek 9100 and do not have any oif the problems described above .... yet!!
Stu

How is your Universal holding up?

I've been using my Exec for little over a month now, no scratch on the casing nor screen, but I just noticed the tampo print on the side camera and backlight buttons are rubbing off.. No biggie but I'm a bit anal about these stuffs. How is your Universal holding up so far?
As far as the front camera (the one for video calls) is concerned it is okay because my screen protector came with two small round pieces to cover this camera as well as the lense of the main camera.
Yes the print on the backlight button is almost gone after about 1 months of usage. I also find that some marks (about 10 at the moment) developing on the screen side of the cover. This I believe are being formed as the top of the keys rub against the screen side of the cover when it is closed. Rest of the finish I find is pretty good till now with no abnormal wear of the pait work or anything else.
Kind Regards
why the backlight button? what does it do? i have had 3 of these things now and none of them have ever done anything when i press the backlight button.
just curious
joe
I think all it does is turn the monitor light back on if it's off.. same thing as if you just tab on the screen
joebongo said:
why the backlight button? what does it do? i have had 3 of these things now and none of them have ever done anything when i press the backlight button.
just curious
joe
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You have 3 Universals! WOW!
If I am not mistaken, he probably remapped the backlight button to lauch an application. Here is how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34377
yeah, one jasjar with vodafone - rip off data charges and they just wouldn't let me sign up for decently priced data chunks, and it had a dodgy screen, and 2 mda pro's - the first kept crashing so got sent a proper new replacement which is good so far.
keyboard marks on jasjar
hi everybody. i want to use my jas jar with the screen side outwards.. what happens is that i notice the keys of the keyboard tubbing against the metal portion of the cover (the outside) when i turn the screen outwards. will they cause marks on the surface.?
Keys are made of rubber like material so it is very unlikely that it will cause scratch marks. I have a Piel Frama case which has a film like material covering the keys. Thats the best solution if scratching the device is your main fear
hi
using mine in laptop mode ever since i got it in mid oct, no scartches on screen and none of the buttons lost markings and except for two marks on side of screen because of the two elevated rubber protectors, no other scatch or mark any where else on the body.
I dont use any screen portector or any case but always make sure that i dont have anything else in my pocket except Exec like keys etc
hi .. sadly there are no o2 exec or imate jasjar cases availabe here in india. if anybody knows please let me know .. thanks
You can purchase them online from Piel Frama or Brando or PDAir or Proporta....
The pivot worked loose, but there a thread on how to fix it.
Going to try later this week.
bougt it in october, not really been using it but every thing is still ok. It needs resetting very 2 days coz it crashes. it cashes mainly in contacts list and other time during the change over from landscape to portrait.
never had a pda before.
does this happen much to others?

phone casing not flush, can somone compare with theres

Hi all, just recived my replacment handset ive ive just noticed at the bottom the suronding around the mini usb sticks out one side so its not flush with the rest of the phone, im sure on my other handset this wasnt there but not sure for deffenate.
Can anyone confirm this or is it just my phone
Thanks
Mine is the same - I think this is by design.
ok cheers mate, just cant remember it on the last handset
antlion said:
Mine is the same - I think this is by design.
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Yep, this is standard. The Use connector housing is square and does not follow the curve of the casing.
Mike
Something I have noticed is that on my brand new replacement handset (serial number beginning HT643, my original handset was an HT634) the silver bezel which runs along the right hand side of the screen is recessed slightly - nothing major, but when my original handset's metal strip was flush with the plastic casing, you really do notice it (particularly if you're holding the phone in your left hand). Oh well, only a minor issue really!
christopherwoods said:
Something I have noticed is that on my brand new replacement handset (serial number beginning HT643, my original handset was an HT634) the silver bezel which runs along the right hand side of the screen is recessed slightly - nothing major, but when my original handset's metal strip was flush with the plastic casing, you really do notice it (particularly if you're holding the phone in your left hand). Oh well, only a minor issue really!
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BUT maybe this is how they are solving the Screen alignment problem - DONT bend it. Only joking but you never know do you.
Mike
Not planning on it I did notice that JUST as I replaced my handset my screen alignment drifted out, which I corrected with a realignment (I had it replaced for another reason - people not being able to hear me after I'd gone through any call which involved entering numbers to an automated menu system, and then being on hold for a long time! for example... To the T-MOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICES PEOPLE! haha).
Very odd, hope it doesn't happen with this device. I won't go hacking the case to fix it though, I'm too lazy for that.
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(I had it replaced for another reason - people not being able to hear me after I'd gone through any call which involved entering numbers to an automated menu system, and then being on hold for a long time! for example... To the T-MOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICES PEOPLE! haha).
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Thats one of the exact problems with my previous handset but mainly when on speaker phone

Middle Keys Wearing

Hey everyone,
Have any of you experienced the wearing of the middle keys? I've had 3 Tytn's and only the T,G,V keys start to wear, it appears as a small black dot but then becomes bigger and the backlight shines through it.
I have my TytN in for repairs and the agent tells me it's not covered under warranty since it's usual wear and tear, but I'm telling them that it's a factory fault as none of the other keys are wearing so something must be scrapping on them.
i just looked at all of my keys, and i do have a small wear spot on the T key, but not any of the others
Yes, I have seen this reported quite a few times. I would pursue the matter if you can show that the keys that are wearing are touching/rubbing against the lower side of the screen housing. In other words the central section of the keyboard is raised - this would be a design fault in my view. Whether you succeed or not is another matter.
Mike
Which Hermes version is this? As far as I am aware, the diferences are only cosmetic, but I wonde rif they extend as far as the underside of the sliding case and if I should keep an eye out for this on mine :s
Cavey.co.uk said:
Which Hermes version is this? As far as I am aware, the diferences are only cosmetic, but I wonde rif they extend as far as the underside of the sliding case and if I should keep an eye out for this on mine :s
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On a number of versions the middle area of the keyboard appears slightly raised and rubs the underside of the screen housing. We are talking fractions of a millimetre. Mine is an older version Tytn and I have no problems but I am not a heavy keyboard user.
Mike

SOS - Hermes works fine just that there is NO screen!

Really need help here,
My hermes suddenly decided that visuals are no longer needed.
That means the screens stays off all the time (yes even in bootloader mode).
It works, receive calls and flashes roms but in no situation can I see anything on the screen (pitch black screen).
I've got no warranty so I took it apart and checked each cable and connector - no issues were seen. I tried changing SPL-s, RUU, Roms all worked but left my tytn with that black screen.
Did anyone see this happen or has any advice?
This sucks big time :-(
No one? Oh man, I guess it's dead then :-(
Last bump before giving up and throwing it away - please?
send it to me if your gonna throw it away : - 0
I've given up on mine as well. It has white screen though. Where do I dump this thing?
If it is out of warrenty, I would take it apart as is sounds like the hardware, check the connections to the LCD. Does the backlight still work, or if you put it in strong sunlight, can you see the LCD working?
My Hermes had a white screen also. I found that if I squeeze the bottom right hand corner whilst resetting it would sometimes work. It seems there is a chip on the switch board that needs the right ammount of pressure on it. I think it was a design flaw as the herm200 and 300 are different. If applying pressure works and you are confident enough take the hermes apart and put a couple of small pieces of plastic or paper between the front buttons and the small square chip on the switch board. This worked for me.
The service guide is available if you google. Let me know if you need more info.
As for the black screen that sounds more serious sorry not seen that one.
what are you guys willing to sell your pdas for? Mine fell in a puddle and i need one for parts. The white screen might be fixable the first couple of times but then it dies off for good, the black screen i've never heard of.
So if you want to sell for a reasonably cheap price let me know, i can buy a new keypad online for $50. So around there would be nice!
i.a.wright said:
My Hermes had a white screen also. I found that if I squeeze the bottom right hand corner whilst resetting it would sometimes work. It seems there is a chip on the switch board that needs the right ammount of pressure on it. I think it was a design flaw as the herm200 and 300 are different. If applying pressure works and you are confident enough take the hermes apart and put a couple of small pieces of plastic or paper between the front buttons and the small square chip on the switch board. This worked for me.
The service guide is available if you google. Let me know if you need more info.
As for the black screen that sounds more serious sorry not seen that one.
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I just tested this on mine and actually got some results.
mines the opposite though, it will NOT work with any pressure. I left all the screws loose for that board under the buttons, and left the LCD assemble screws out on that end and it works, But if I press the keys it whites out again and won't come back until I repeat the dis-assemble/re-assemble
I had a similar problem but this was after someone dropped mine on the floor. The screen would just be white screen, while everything worked. If I pressed the bottom right of the phone it would sometimes come on and stay on for a little while but would eventually always go to white screen.
I did manage to use the phone but had use a program called Net Control which allowed me to control the phone over WIFI with the phone screen shown on the PC. Got the phone replaced in the end by the people who dropped it.
i got the flex cable and my phone still has the white screen problem....wtf///

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