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4.01.00 ups and downs or "it's out and free"

Ok people ...
since this one is spreading let's pull up a list of what you can or you cannot get with this one.
Version 4.20.0 (Build 13252)
RSU 6.24.01
The SIM software has a "Built Oct 14 2003" ...
AND YES !!! The Messenger is updated and it's working.
That's the first impresion.

So first step in the kitchen :
remember the params for the 4.00.21 ?
old stuff
wincever=4
start1=81740000
size1=00040000
start2=81c00000
size2=00300000
startbmp=81ec0000
startop=81c00000
that was over 3.4M of free space
NOW @ 4.01.00:
wincever=4
start1=81740000
size1=00040000
start2=81c00000
size2=00300000
startbmp=81ec0000
startop=81c00000
that is IDENTICAL
so ... again some space to fit our little "must have" apps.

Ya, but where do you get it

access info
thanks to ddevilx2 you can go to:
130.39.48.102 port 21
login tmobile password rom

Are there any kitchen's online where we can cook this up?
thanks in advance

obviously not "YET" ... since the only available is Yorch's ... and he's getting married ... you should probably start unsing your linux box or cygwin and set up your own.
it's fun :wink:

BALL & CHAIN :roll:

I've tried to set one up a couple of times to no avail. If someone wants to help me set one up I will host it at my expense. Let me know. I have all the 4.00.x ROMS and would like to make them all available.
BTW, I extracted the nk.nbf file from the exe so you don't have to change radio stacks.

Re: access info
decebal said:
thanks to ddevilx2 you can go to:
130.39.48.102 port 21
login tmobile password rom
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very sweet! thanks decebal & ddevilx2

I tried that ftp site and it likes tmobil okay but not the password rom....any suggestions?

Worked for me 20 min ago

it is exactly as the post says: tmobil/rom
as opposed to t-mobile or T-Mobil/ROM or some such?

got it...its Tmobile/rom for those of you who have yet to try.

UGH. I think I just blew up my T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone. I downloaded the 4.01.00 per this thread and tried installing. During the radio stack upgrade it said "upgrade failed". The windows app came up with a message that said that I could recover from it by removing the usb cable and resetting the device. The upgrade should then recover. It never recovers though - I get as far as "Welcome to T-Mobile Test Only Not For Sale", with the version information showing as:
G
R
4.00.21
Never makes it past that. I tried the hard reset button as well with no luck.
I realize that this is the risk I take, but can anybody help???
Thanks!

Not sure what you can do.
BE WARNED PEOPLE that an .exe install is the RISKIEST way to update your device. Do an SD card method instead.

Can anyone tell me if this ROM (4.01.00) is for 900/1800 MHZ or 900/1900 MHZ devices?
TIA,
Max

All I saw on the FTP server is the exe file, is there a nbf file?

Just open the .exe with winrar or winzip, then you just extract the .nb file or more if you wish. Anyone have a listing of the differences with this ROM?

groggrog said:
- I get as far as "Welcome to T-Mobile Test Only Not For Sale", with the version information showing as:
G
R
4.00.21
Never makes it past that.
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OK, IVE BEEN HERE
RESET DEVICE, PUT ON CHARGER [NOT CONECTED TO PC, JUST CHARGING], AND JUST LEAVE IT THERE... DONT DO ANYTHING, IT WILL LOAD, AFTER LIKE 30 MINZ OR SO :mrgreen:
WHEN OS LOADS, DELETE THE 4 RS UPGRADE FILES FROM WINDOWS DIR.
THEN IF U WANNA GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY, DECOMPRESS THE 4 FILES FROM THE *.EXE FILE AND MANUALLY PLACE EM BACK TO WINDOWS DIR. ... AND IF NO LUCK, GO WITH ATT STACK, LOW FAILURE RATE (as i am told) 8)

Ok I feel stupid, man that was easy.

JAM extended rom apps / patches

I have the following in the extended rom on my JAM and am trying to save space so which out of the following need to be installed thanks :
Default_Backkeysound_RC10
Default_Caller_ID_WWE_RC10
Default_Delete_vdisk
Default_imateV1.00.10
Default_JMM101257_wwe_1004
Default_KSE_Fax_v2.09_unremovable
Default_MMS_V2.0.0.16_WWE_1115
Default_Patch_103_3
Default_Phonepad_WWE_RC10
Default_Smartdialing_WWE_RC11
Default_Version_WWE_103143.sa
Also what is each 1 for,Thanks

I'm trying to find out the same thing. Hope someone can help.

Default_Backkeysound_RC10
Installs a MIDI file for Back Key
Default_Caller_ID_WWE_RC10
This is the Caller ID application (consumes memory, but necessary if you want pictures pop up when ppl call you)
Default_Delete_vdisk
Not sure about this one!
Default_imateV1.00.10
Installs the imate splash screen, plus some other imate visual customisations.
Default_JMM101257_wwe_1004
JAVA patch - Recomended to install
Default_KSE_Fax_v2.09_unremovable
TrueFax software, allowing you to send/recieve faxes - Consumes lots of memory.
Default_MMS_V2.0.0.16_WWE_1115
MMS patch. Without it MMS will not work properly!
Default_Patch_103_3
Not sure about this one. Name suggests it includes patches for the 1.03 ROM version. I would install it.
Default_Phonepad_WWE_RC10
IntelliPad software that allows you to search for names in the Phone app. I like this one.
Default_Smartdialing_WWE_RC11
Not sure about this one!
Default_Version_WWE_103143.sa
Not sure about this one either.

Help please!
How can I make visible the Extended ROM?
THX

Simple run \windows\loadvdisk.exe
Darek

Thanks

kta said:
Default_Backkeysound_RC10
Installs a MIDI file for Back Key
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What exactly is "back key"?

Just to complete:
Default_Delete_vdisk
Just makes the extended_rom invisible again.
Default_Patch_103_3
I've heard it updates the battery, radio and some other internals. Unless you have a problem I don't see the need - you can't shift this stuff from \windows so it will eat memory. Personally I'm just going to wait for the latest ROM update, then the above wll be out of date.
Default_Version_WWE_103143.sa
Updates some registry info, no practical effect that I know of.

Can't run LoadVDisk.exe
I can't run LoadVDisk.exe with my Mini, I can see the file but it won't run.
Is it locked ?
Or should I make changes with registry first ?

Thanks
Great thanks alot guys

Re: Can't run LoadVDisk.exe
Dihon said:
I can't run LoadVDisk.exe with my Mini, I can see the file but it won't run.
Is it locked ?
Or should I make changes with registry first ?
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You simply click on it! It doesn't display any message. Then you can access the extended_ROM...!!

Thanks guys great help. I personally did not install anything and my phone works still. Even without the patches. I will probably wait for rom update as well.

Aplication to patch any Magician ROM to bigStorage ones!!

If you want to patch any ROM like the one of Alex Anansky...
...download my aplicatión and do it now!!
It's so easy... read the instructions in the file "HowTo.txt".
Bye ;-)

Something tells me that something's fishy here.
Some guy from nowhere with only 4 posts comes up with a "breakthrough" utility and doesn't give any explanation but "download my aplicatión[sic]... Bye!"
The attachment's removed now (not by me).

OK... you lose it...
If somebody want's it... Follow this...
http://www.todophonedition.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=4808#4808
It's a spanish site about PhoneEdition PDA's... I moderate the programing forum.
Bye

MKS,
could you explain more on how it works!

I apologize if I sounded harsh, but this site has gone through a lot of problems from individuals repeatedly deleting things off the FTP, spamming or advertising for porn in the threads, and more.
This site needs to be moderated or protected a little better if it's going to thrive. It needs good people with good understanding, patience, and the willingness to share so we can get things that our manufacturers are not providing properly.
So, thank you for the attachment and link as I will test it out shortly.

Now come on, tell us something about you and how you did it. Or did you only find it yourself? If so: where?

So with this i can add and remove any Ext rom i want?
If that so, then its great!! now i can add IIWPO and Ext rom?
Can i?

the strange thing is if i rename any file to rom.nb1 and run the program, it will create a file with the size of 63MB rom file... is that normal MKS?

Just remember that the NB1 file will have to be 64MB since your Magician/JAM's ROM size is 64MB and it will SD-flash everything, from the CE portion to the Radio to the Extended ROM and Storage area.

Oh! it is necessary to obtain a Microsoft Certificate to upLoad some aplicatións here? :lol:
OK... I do not send many mensages in this forum... but I have been reading it for a long time... watch my date of registry. :wink:
Well, first... The size of the file is correct. Magician ROM does not occupy exactly 64Mb.
When you download the ROM to one 64Mb SD card, a few bytes at the end are single to fill the SD size. But these bytes are not necessary.
The ROM really finishes in the string "HTCE" before arriving at the 64 Mb.
I have trimmed the resulting file to do it easier to handle.
OK...This is everything at the moment. This weekend I have much work... In the next week I tell more to you.
It is possible that I even sends the source code to you too :wink:
Bye.

thanx alot for the HOWTO-method on "bigStorage" 8)

you have compared between original nb1 and the hacked one then you figured out the Anansky's code

NightmarE said:
you have compared between original nb1 and the hacked one then you figured out the Anansky's code
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Yes, something similar to that... But it's not so simple. I need some info from the xdaDevelopers WIKI's too. And a lot of tests over my Magician with diferent ROM versions & languages.
Probably in the next week I will upload the source code.
Bye :wink: .

Great job dude :wink:
I'm downloading the file now... and I can't wait to create my own BIG-Storage ROM
cheers

MKS said:
Yes, something similar to that... But it's not so simple.
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i have some tips to get the code in 5 seconds :wink:, but the hard part is to get the idea... 8)

Hi MKS,
I tried yr program on my Imate w/ Traditional Chinese "Dopod818_1110_153_11100_Ship" Rom and it doesn't work.
Steps that I did
1. Back up the Dopod TC rom to my 256mb SD using romupdate.exe w/ d2s command
2. use ntrw to write the rom on my hd
3. using yr program to modify the rom
4. write the modified rom back to the SD
5. The Jam report Section = 1 error and doesn't start the flash
6. Therefore, I copy the first 416 byte from the original Dodpod TC to the modified rom
7. The Jam start flashing. But after it reach 100%, it report download error and checksum error.
Now, I need to roll back to my original rom.......
Rgds,
Jack

Has anyone successfully used this to make a bigstorage ROM?

im having trouble backing up my original rom. after the the check sum ok part i took the sd card out of the phone and into a card reader. i run the ntrw read backup.nb1 f: and it gave me an error. it says "cyclic redundancy check" i see that on drive see it has created a file called backup.nb1 but it is 0 bytes. does anyone know what im doing wrong?

dacmo said:
Has anyone successfully used this to make a bigstorage ROM?
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Just to let you know that I have successfully used this to make a bigstorage for the new O2 ROM I downloaded from seeo2.com last night. Nice splash screen MKS Many thanks.

test123456 said:
dacmo said:
Has anyone successfully used this to make a bigstorage ROM?
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Just to let you know that I have successfully used this to make a bigstorage for the new O2 ROM I downloaded from seeo2.com last night. Nice splash screen MKS Many thanks.
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Also just to let you know that I forgot to patch 416 bytes from O2 ROM into MKS ROM but it worked OK (cuz this is the first time I flashed ROM for my O2 mini ). Now I will do it again after patching 416 bytes from O2 ROM. Will let you know how I go...

Extended ROM Unlock tutorial

Hi,
Can someone point me to a simple Extended ROM Unlock tutorial because I just can't manage to find my way through the Forum.
I'de like to place my favorite apps in ROM...
Thanx
The General

GeneralPatton said:
Hi,
Can someone point me to a simple Extended ROM Unlock tutorial because I just can't manage to find my way through the Forum.
I'de like to place my favorite apps in ROM...
Thanx
The General
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well general, depends on the OS you are using..
if you have rom version 1.6.x.x it won't work easy yet.
the pre 1.6.x.x roms are quite simple, download totalcommander for ppc, install it, run it, in the adress-bar type "\extended_rom\" without the " " 's, and voila, there they are..
good luck..
ps.
the search button on top of this page would give the oppertunity to search for words as extended rom in de wizard forums.. :wink:

Ok
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General

Re: Ok
GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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There's a config file in there too (can't remember it's name off hand, but it's fairly obvious). This has a list of the cab files to install after a hard reset. I guess you'd need to add your cab files to that list as well as copying them to extended ROM.
Dox

Re: Ok
GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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depends, some have a config.txt file, if you open this one and edit it to your
needs, the files you put into it will be installed after hard reset, if you
set the right parameters from the txt file.
other roms have the autorun.exe wich installs all the files in the extrom.
i'm not sure anymore if this is right, but i believe that if you rename your
cab's like this:
applicationX.cab -> Default_applicationX.cab
it will install without any problems.
if you have problems with unsigned cabs, you can use the signed.patch
wich can be found on the ftp.

On my Cingular 8125 the extended ROM is write protected, does anyone know how do I remove the write-protection?

jsnipper said:
On my Cingular 8125 the extended ROM is write protected, does anyone know how do I remove the write-protection?
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Only way around is to flash an older rom into your handset..

Re: Ok
nmx77 said:
GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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depends, some have a config.txt file, if you open this one and edit it to your
needs, the files you put into it will be installed after hard reset, if you
set the right parameters from the txt file.
other roms have the autorun.exe wich installs all the files in the extrom.
i'm not sure anymore if this is right, but i believe that if you rename your
cab's like this:
applicationX.cab -> Default_applicationX.cab
it will install without any problems.
if you have problems with unsigned cabs, you can use the signed.patch
wich can be found on the ftp.
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Hi
Could tell us where on the ftp we can found signed.patch?
Bye
Herc. 8)

Here it is
i couldn't find it on the ftp anymore as well..
i'll put it there again, but here it is for you

if it's that easy to get into extended rom, then why do people release the unlockers for extrom? i don't get it.

Ray_jai said:
if it's that easy to get into extended rom, then why do people release the unlockers for extrom? i don't get it.
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you can access the files on the extended rom, but you can't edit any of the information there. you have to flash a new extended rom image for any changes to take effect. I think those that are looking at the extended rom unlockers is for a different purpose. I think I read somewhere that it let some people use the extended rom space as extra storage (~10 megs), but it messed up applications on the phone, especially the camera.
in general, it doesn't seem to be a good idea to unlock the extended rom. most rom builders look like they are trying to learn how to edit this properly to add it o their rom kitchens.

can one's extended rom go curropt?
after i heard about this, i went into extended rom just to see if it works.
and it did. i exited total commander and started to gather my anti theif program to get installed.
now I go back into extended rom, and everything became gibberish!
and when i click on something it says "error 3 Changing to dir!"
WTF is going on!
can someone help me out?

HIDE / SHOW ExtROM on HTC TyTN (Registry Tweak)

Hide/Show Hidden ROM (at least works on my TyTN - German ROM)
SHOWN:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
HIDDEN:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000001

For me this was the default:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
So, I only had to change this from 1 to 0:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Now I can see the extended rom, my device is an HTC TyTN WWE, I will post the ExtROM to FTP in a while.
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!

pof said:
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!
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GREAT !
Now we still need 2 very important Registry Hacks (or missing links to get them work):
1. A hack for presenting a differentiation between GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA
2. A hack for invoking the EngineeringTest Mode
I've been unable so far to get that working on the Hermes platform. Keep trying.

pof said:
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!
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GREAT !
Now we still need 2 very important Registry Hacks (or missing links to get them work):
1. A hack for presenting a differentiation between GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA
2. A hack for invoking the EngineeringTest Mode
I've been unable so far to get that working on the Hermes platform. Keep trying.

pof said:
Now I can see the extended rom, my device is an HTC TyTN WWE, I will post the ExtROM to FTP in a while.
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Thank you.

I finished uploading my ExtROM, I also created a wiki page with the contents of all the available Extended ROMs on FTP so far:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
If anyone has a different version not listed, please do the following:
1) Unhide it
2) Zip it
3) Upload it
4) Update the wiki page
Thanks!

pof said:
I finished uploading my ExtROM, I also created a wiki page with the contents of all the available Extended ROMs on FTP so far:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
If anyone has a different version not listed, please do the following:
1) Unhide it
2) Zip it
3) Upload it
4) Update the wiki page
Thanks!
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Heh, youre busy one.
I added a registry tweak to change the titlebar clock to an annalog one, if someone is interested.
Hopefully we can keep the wiki growing and useful.

My default setup was also:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000001
So I just changed to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
and did a soft reset. The extended rom then appeared but it was still write protected. How do I get rid of the write protection?
LJ

Use the cab file in the wiki, it unlocks and unhides ExtROM.

After using the cab fille and/or making the tweaks myself, and the are the same as described as above, the result is that I can see the ext. rom, but it is still write protected. I can't delete any file or write a file to the ext. rom. I've got a Tytn WWE. What is the problem, or better: what is the solution???

Should be wrtitable using this cab:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HERMES_MountExtROM.CAB
If it's not, then try to hard reset and then use the cab without messing with registry keys before.

Problem with Extended ROM
I have tried all the methods in the wiki and also all the reg. edit trick but I still can't see my extended ROM. When I run the cab to Mount Extended ROM it crashes my TyTN. Locks it up befor making it to the windows screen. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this or tell me where to look? I was going to mess around with bootloader but I am not that computer savy.

hard reset and install the unhider&unlcoker cab file. it should work after hard reset.

Have tried to Hard Reset my Taiwanese CHT9000 and only apply the HERMES_MountExtROM.CAB tweak, now can see the Extend ROM, but still cannot "unprotect" the ROM. Cannot make it writable. Any other methods? Like modifying the registry? Thanks a lot in advance!!

ghl10000 said:
pof said:
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!
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GREAT !
Now we still need 2 very important Registry Hacks (or missing links to get them work):
1. A hack for presenting a differentiation between GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA
2. A hack for invoking the EngineeringTest Mode
I've been unable so far to get that working on the Hermes platform. Keep trying.
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On my Vario 2, when I'm using 3G (and therefore, HSDPA) the [3G] icon is shown in the top bar (and when it connects a small connecting icon with the moving arrows and 3G in it is diplayed, next to the square 3G indicator) - when it drops back to GPRS, it just changes to [G].
Does yours not do this?

rcyh said:
Have tried to Hard Reset my Taiwanese CHT9000 and only apply the HERMES_MountExtROM.CAB tweak, now can see the Extend ROM, but still cannot "unprotect" the ROM. Cannot make it writable. Any other methods? Like modifying the registry? Thanks a lot in advance!!
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http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=453&PN=1
Unsure whether it works myself, as I've not tried it yet, but I'd put (a small amount of) money on it that it works

Hi Chris, Thanks for your reply!!
Unfortunately, my device is still un-protectable after following the whole process. And the registry settings I have checked are exactly the same as the described. The Extended_ROM directory is still write-protected. Couldn't add or delete files in it.
Maybe I am the unlucky one that couldn't change the extended ROM at all...

Since the digital signature security autentification for CABs in ExtROM is on by default, putting in any CAB file that is either not digitally signed, or loses its authenticity because it was modified will not be installed during the Customization phase after a hard reset.
Any ideas how to solve this problen on TyTN?
There was the soluton for the Universal devices wiht the Default_Signed_DisabledSecurity.CAB. This CAB has the right signature for Universal, but it dosn’t work on TyTN.

From this MSDN discussion about Windows Mobile 5 code signing,
"Looks like you won't have to sign the cab if wceload.exe isn't used to install it. Although if it is used to install the cab file you will need to sign it."
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http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/12/17/security_model_faq.aspx#506035
A possible gap? If someone could come up with a third party CAB installer that could be used during customisation, maybe it could bypass the official CAB installation procedure (and therefore the signed certificate verification) entirely? Just a thought.

For Universal this problem i think was decided here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150) with the help of Default_Signed_DisableSecurity.CAB. But this CAB not work on my TyTN. I think it because of wrong digital sign.