Smartdialer slow response? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi,
The Smart dialer on my Dopod 838 pro seems to not perform up to speed. When pressing keypad for numbers or search contacts (smart dialing) the application gives slow response... is anyone experiencing the same problem? or is there a fix for this? .. i have around 400 contacts on my unit (FYI) could this be the problem?
Thanks in advance
Any help is really appreciated
Cheers
NR

Yep, mine is sluggish too. I hate how the keypad tones stay on while the app sorts itself out, I do have LOADs of contacts though and I imagine the software having to sift through all of them as it does its realtime filtering must use up all the CPU cycles for the start of each search. My response time picks back up once I've typed in three letters / numbers, but it's still annoying enough for me to mute the volume or turn the key tones off while I dial.
My Alpine was just like it.

christopherwoods said:
Yep, mine is sluggish too. I hate how the keypad tones stay on while the app sorts itself out, I do have LOADs of contacts though and I imagine the software having to sift through all of them as it does its realtime filtering must use up all the CPU cycles for the start of each search. My response time picks back up once I've typed in three letters / numbers, but it's still annoying enough for me to mute the volume or turn the key tones off while I dial.
My Alpine was just like it.
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Thanks for the response mate but... arggg.. its annoying :evil:

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A better skin/program for phone and contacts?

My problem with my MDA Vario is mainly searching contacts. It's very fiddly normally and a copplete nightmare when driving. I really dont want to have to take the pen out just to make a call.
What are my options? Any better software/skinds around? Or is there an option i am missing that could make it easier?
Thanks
PS, i dont want to use vioce dialing because its completely crap on this model with its poor audio capabilities.
I'm pretty happy with voice dialing. I agree it is unsafe to find contacts while driving, but I find that if I enunciate distinctly both when recording and when finding, I get pretty close to 100% success with voice dialing.
i am also interested in an input method or a contact skin to make contacts easily browsable while driving ---
this would be one of the main reasons for keeping also a nokia 6630 besides the wizard.
The main fact is that they are to small to press with a finger, any way of making them larger?
Try this one
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Try this one
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Do you have a screenshot how this looks/works ?!
nm
Probably already mentionedbut I found this by accident.
If you press the 'Contacts' button, the contacts are listed alphabetically.
Assuming you want someone beginning with 'P', instead of trying to press the tiny 'p' button, simply scroll down by holding the down button, but keep it pushed like fast scrolling.
Keep it pressed and after a few seconds, a large pop up appears with the Letters in it, A,B,C etc.
Hold it until 'P' appears, let go, and you are at 'P'
Seect your contact and dial.
Sorry if this is old news.
voice dialling is the best answer cause i am driving about 10.000 km /month because of my business, holding down the down arrow is also hard to select a single contact, instead u can use smartskey to use the volume controller button act like page down.. 8)
DREAMBOXER said:
xplode said:
Try this one
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Do you have a screenshot how this looks/works ?!
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http://mytreo.net/archives/2006/04/new_speeddial_app_reviewed_on_a_treo_650.php

Laggy F#$#&^$#king dialer

Often when i dial numbers the dialer cant keep up and lags, And the numbers get swapped around
I press 0 8 2 and it shows 028 on the screen.
Goddamn its annoying. Anyone have a fix?
wamatt said:
Often when i dial numbers the dialer cant keep up and lags, And the numbers get swapped around
I press 0 8 2 and it shows 028 on the screen.
Goddamn its annoying. Anyone have a fix?
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I'd second that! Its [email protected]$^[email protected]$ing annoying :evil:
You have to type the number reaaallllyyyy slow to not screw it up :x
-S
Maybe there are 3rd party dialers that can be used as full replacements?
are you guys reffering to the smart dialler or just the regular windows dialpad? I didn't install the smart dialler and I get acceptable response time when dialing [I seldom use it though I actually search for the contact using the contacts app and dial from there].
Fixed! Thank you.
Your post gave me an idea, looks like "Smart dialing" checkbox is the culprit, you can turn it off in the dialer menu.
Sweeet.
Ya know, I though it was me all along.
Thanks for pointing out the Smart Dialer think.

List of bugs / Problem in Hermes devices

I am running the iMate JasJam 1.31 ROM (which came with the Australian Telstra branded device)
The most common problems so far:
-Sound stops working, will only vibrate. This happen if you switch to silent mode, when you get back to normal sound mode, it stays in silence mode until you reboot. this doesn't always happen. can't reproduce it consistently
-BT turns off by itself once in a while, you have to turn BT on in comm manager
-The most annoying: If you have a data session active (not transfering any data) and a BT connection active (like headset, GPS), then you can't receive a call. The person calling you won't even get to voicemail. it just hangs up on them. if you disconnect the data session or turn off BT then you can receive calls again
-Switching username in MSN will often make messenger crash, you have to kill the process and start it again
-Sometimes will hang for no reason: you need to press the reset button
Then you have the GUI weirdness which make you think: what did they drink the day they designed this software?
Like if you receive a SMS, it will show you an extract of it at the bottom of the screen, you'll get off the following choice:
-Reply on the left soft menu
-More on the right soft menu with the option (delete, call sender, Save as Read, dismiss)
What if I just want to read the full content in the Messaging application? you can't.
If you select Mark as Read immediately it doesn't mark the SMS as read in the messaging application and you still get the notification in the top screen. You have to do "Mark as Read" twice.
Something I miss from my symbian phone, if you have a bluetooth headset paired with a unit (or your car kit) when you answer a call using the BT headset button, the call goes to the BT headset, but if you answer using the device itself, it doesn't go on the BT. This is great if you want to take a personal call in a car for example, and don't want your passenger to hear what's going on.
On WM5, you can't control that. it aways goes to BT if the headset/handsfree is set.
When the keyboard is open, if you tap on a text field, the screen keyboard will show up (and text half of the screen). Why show a software keyboard all the time when you have a full qwerty keyboard available !? Sometimes the keyboard doesn't show up, but I'm yet to understand the logic behind it. it's not consistent
And then of course you have some inconsistencies here and there, like the device will stop working as it did 2 minutes prior. You try it again: bank it works.
I wonder if Microsoft or HTC have any QA !
What other issues have you guys noticed? Or could this be that those problems are unique to thie version of the ROM...
Jean-Yves
I agree, there are quite a lot of interface issues, although I think most of these lie with wm5 as opposed to the unit itself.
here are some of my thoughts:
1) the sms bubble relly annoys me too. why can't I tap the bubble to open the message in full?! often the message is too long to fit in the notification. i'm pretty sure this is a wm5 design fault.
2) the software keyboard bugged me senseless until I realised that if you just keep typing on the 'proper' keyboard it disappears. I used to continually spend the time closing it!
3) the alarms in wm5 are pretty lame. if your phone is on silent they won't sound. you only get a warning if you set an alarm whilst the phone is in vibrate mode. the alarm should simply override the sound settings.
4) contacts - I think searching for contacts is poorly handled which makes one handed operation pretty difficult. it takes too many clicks to select a category to filter by and the display when someone is calling you is a farse! you get a tiny notification with tiny writing! I bought photo contacts pro to help with this and whilt it has its flaws I reckon it is worth it.
having said this, i'm loving my tytn. it is way better than my previous smartphone (nokia 6680). the symbian s60 based phones seem to just be half-assed to me.
cheers
Just to comment on the SMS notification.
I am on MDA Vario II from T-Mobile, and when I get an SMS my left button says read! so If I choose that he whole message is displayed. So I guess it is not the OS but the Operator or manufacturer who screwed up on this one.
I add that in some case the tytn wirless modem function dont work.
So you can use the tytn like modem.
festermania said:
I add that in some case the tytn wirless modem function dont work.
So you can use the tytn like modem.
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Exactly. Some units work as modem and others not (mine not)
Mine works, but since Vista RC2, I couldn't get the OS to install the drivers.
It worked well in Beta2 and RC1
Ken
danielherrero said:
Exactly. Some units work as modem and others not (mine not)
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Churchill said:
Just to comment on the SMS notification.
I am on MDA Vario II from T-Mobile, and when I get an SMS my left button says read! so If I choose that he whole message is displayed. So I guess it is not the OS but the Operator or manufacturer who screwed up on this one.
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well that's quite bugging! i'm also on t-mobile vario ii and mine appears with reply in the bottom left!!
Ha! my OS is in Dutch, so I am not sure it is comparable.
Mine aslso works as a modem just Fine.
I als want to post a small tip. The Envelope (messaging) hardware button on the MDA VARIO II (maybe the same on Vario as well) If you keep on pressing it it sycleds the Outlook Mail, Text messages, Hotmail, MMS accounts. Really nice since you do onot need to hit the menu button...
Cycling Mail
Churchill said:
Mine aslso works as a modem just Fine.
I als want to post a small tip. The Envelope (messaging) hardware button on the MDA VARIO II (maybe the same on Vario as well) If you keep on pressing it it sycleds the Outlook Mail, Text messages, Hotmail, MMS accounts. Really nice since you do onot need to hit the menu button...
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Churchill
Thanks for the tip, never spotted that before works on HTC TyTn.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Churchill
Thanks for the tip, never spotted that before works on HTC TyTn.
Mike
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Pressing left/Right on the d-pad does this too.
Cheers
yannyb said:
Pressing left/Right on the d-pad does this too.
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Thanks for that one too. Perhaps we need a thread for non-obvious key combinations or single presses. Perhaps what seems to be statin' the bleedin' obvious to some folks are just things that others have never thought of or tried. Often I discover things through pure chance. Another useful one I used to need a lot was the D-Pad and messaging key combo to go straight to screen alignment.
Mike
What about a new wiki page for all key combinations of the Hermes?
yannyb said:
well that's quite bugging! i'm also on t-mobile vario ii and mine appears with reply in the bottom left!!
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Im on T-Mobile too, and for me it depends on the length of the message ive received. If its a message that doesnt entirely fit in the "preview" popup box at the bottom it will give me a "View" option which will open the full message up in Messaging, otherwise it gives a "Reply" option as i have read the whole message anyway...
More to the list
While waiting to get my new phone (used to have PDA2k, and Jamin that I just sold after using for 3 months due to my disatisfactionof performance, sound quality, etc...) I had some chances to play the JasJam (Arabic ROM). First I noted that the call button is very badley placed at the verry bottom of the front as I felt the phone will fall out of my hand (unlike the HTC where the green botton is separatly on the very left side, as I see it in photos).
Second, if pull the out memory card for any reason and push it bacj in, the phone never recognizes the card again unless you soft rest it.
I hope that this issue will be resloved in the next ROM update by imate
Here it is:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Buttons
thanks didn't know about the cycle mail one
darky said:
thanks didn't know about the cycle mail one
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Yes, I too only discover the mail button could make you cycle between accounts. And this is not in the manual...
Another thing bugging me (I will pass on all the bugs and how to lock the device: there're just too many ways)...
There are 3 OK buttons, all doing the exact same thing. And the scroll wheel just just the same thing as the direction keypad.
If you want to read an email this is extremely annoying as you can't easily read it without tapping the screen to jump to the next screen page ; as up/down or the wheel will jump from embedded number to number.
It would be great if you could differentiate the wheel from the up/down, and if the OK buttons could be assigned another function. Right now there are a few buttons you can't assign.
Ok, this should be a rule to post here: list/describe one bug ...
With activesync program running, try changing the name of the PDA. Will make the device unresponsive for a few minutes.
My experience thus far..
Been using my T-mobile Vario 2 (ROM 1.21.110.3) for a couple of weeks now and have had a couple of problems:
1) The buttons don't work all the time. I've noted this when trying to pick up a call or dismiss a notification of something. I had thought I might have left the device locked but this isn't the case. It's a bit annoying that this only happens sometimes though.
2) About 50% of the time when I call comeone they can't hear me although I can hear them fine.
That's all I've discovered so far, but it's handy to note the comments about the pressing of the envelope button.
Given the problems I've experienced so far are generally located in the lower part of the phone, I'm beginning to suspect the phone has some sort of hardware fault so I've called the shop up and am going to swap it for a new one. Has anyone else experienced these issues?
richieboy said:
Im on T-Mobile too, and for me it depends on the length of the message ive received. If its a message that doesnt entirely fit in the "preview" popup box at the bottom it will give me a "View" option which will open the full message up in Messaging, otherwise it gives a "Reply" option as i have read the whole message anyway...
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You are absolutely right there. Noticed it today. long message you get a view and if it fits the popup then you get a reply. This is actually quite clever.

[FIXED]that annoying noise when someone hangs up on you

anyone know how to disable that? its like 3 loud beeps just so you know the other person hung up.
Oh wow, I thought it was due to network settings from TMO only, but I guess this goes for all X1s. I'd like to know as well!
Disable annoying beeps when hanging up or call drops
Sometimes when a call ends or when you press the hangup button you get an annoying series of beeps. Like the in-call sounds, this is handled by a key in the registry:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\CallDropWithin that key the default 'Script' value is 'p' for 'play', change the 'Script' value to blank (erase the 'p') or change the 'Sound' key value to '*none'.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^ Thanks!
i like it. ppl dont usually hang up on me but its nice to know the call is over
jezusrvd dont you notice when the call is over otherwise?
It's annoying when I go to hang up a call but my screen is off and I hear that.
noob question...how do i use this?
Thanks guys, i thought this was something on the service provider. U guys are legends. Thanks much
awesome, it also closes a lot faster now! Thanks a bunch!
hey thanks a lot, ive change the thread to fixed. problem solved.
and i must say it is faster no lag ftw
How do I access the registry to change this value?

Low & Delayed Ringing

Thanks for starting the segment. Just bought OMNIA II 8GB in India and the problem is when a call comes it is initially very low and the goes up and this cannot be changed through the usual routes. Also the ring itself starts after 3 rings at the callers end. Any help is appreciated.
BTW, Its WM 6.1. Wm 6.5 is not yet available.
bimboybimboy said:
Thanks for starting the segment. Just bought OMNIA II 8GB in India and the problem is when a call comes it is initially very low and the goes up and this cannot be changed through the usual routes. Also the ring itself starts after 3 rings at the callers end. Any help is appreciated.
BTW, Its WM 6.1. Wm 6.5 is not yet available.
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This is a Samusung WM specialty (or they call it feature). The first 3 secs are always "subdued". It happens with all Samsung WM. Nothing can be done to change it. You just have to learn to get used to it. Look on the bright side, when you're in an office setting, you can usually pickup the call before it gets bursting.
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This is a Samusung WM specialty (or they call it feature). The first 3 secs are always "subdued". It happens with all Samsung WM. Nothing can be done to change it. You just have to learn to get used to it. Look on the bright side, when you're in an office setting, you can usually pickup the call before it gets bursting.
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Should have left the choice to the user. Guess, they must have recvd complaints but have successfully resisted all efforts at correcting themselves. Nice surprise in addition to the half assed UI called touchwiz or whatever. Tks anyway
bimboybimboy said:
Should have left the choice to the user. Guess, they must have recvd complaints but have successfully resisted all efforts at correcting themselves. Nice surprise in addition to the half assed UI called touchwiz or whatever. Tks anyway
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Yes, agreed with you that they should leave that as an option for user. About the Touchwiz, well , most Omnia 2 users just dont use that. it's memory hogging and doesnt allow creating shortcuts for many programs.
I would say MAJORITY of Omnia 2 users opt for the Spb Mobile Shell instead.
You should really testdrive it yourself, and you will be delightfully surprised how well it integrates and how much smoother the whole i8000 experience is.
i agree that the ring should have been optional. but personally i like it. it saves me from suddenly jerking in surprise when my phone is on top of a table.
being easily irrated, i like the "soft" warning before it gets loud.
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Yes, agreed with you that they should leave that as an option for user. About the Touchwiz, well , most Omnia 2 users just dont use that. it's memory hogging and doesnt allow creating shortcuts for many programs.
I would say MAJORITY of Omnia 2 users opt for the Spb Mobile Shell instead.
You should really testdrive it yourself, and you will be delightfully surprised how well it integrates and how much smoother the whole i8000 experience is.
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I did try the Shell. But what stopped me was the very rudimentary contact program. i have a large database and I absolutely need a t9 search on every field in the contact list which is not there in Shell if I am not mistaken.
Though for some reason Samsung killed the threading of sms, one feature of this touchwiz I find useful though is the search in sms. Guess as a heavy cell user, over the years, I have developed some specific likes & dislikes. Like I absolutely need to see the future appointments on the today screen & launch particular program from today. etc..
mtsingson said:
i agree that the ring should have been optional. but personally i like it. it saves me from suddenly jerking in surprise when my phone is on top of a table.
being easily irrated, i like the "soft" warning before it gets loud.
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Agreed. But its peculiar. It rings softly first. Then it just vibrates (if u hv vibrate on) but no rings (??? crazy or what ???), then the ringing becomes louder. The whole process takes 5-7 seconds. Now, if u miss these (u can if u r busy or a little distance away from the cell), by the time u hear the louder ring and go to pick up the phone, the caller may go away. It is happening with me.
a solution
to prevent the delay in getting the initial ring, I advice to stop the lock screen from setting/ display and light/ lock screen
then make the device wake up with the lock button only
setting/general settings/ button/wake up/ lock button only
regarding the initial low ring tone, still no solution
bimboybimboy said:
Agreed. But its peculiar. It rings softly first. Then it just vibrates (if u hv vibrate on) but no rings (??? crazy or what ???), then the ringing becomes louder. The whole process takes 5-7 seconds. Now, if u miss these (u can if u r busy or a little distance away from the cell), by the time u hear the louder ring and go to pick up the phone, the caller may go away. It is happening with me.
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Go into your sound settings (Settings -> Sound Settings -> Ring) and check the alert type. Sounds like you have "Vibrate then ring" selected. If you select "Vibrate and ring", it'll function a little bit smoother.
2ksilverbullet said:
Go into your sound settings (Settings -> Sound Settings -> Ring) and check the alert type. Sounds like you have "Vibrate then ring" selected. If you select "Vibrate and ring", it'll function a little bit smoother.
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its set at vibrate and ring
msaeed11 said:
to prevent the delay in getting the initial ring, I advice to stop the lock screen from setting/ display and light/ lock screen
then make the device wake up with the lock button only
setting/general settings/ button/wake up/ lock button only
regarding the initial low ring tone, still no solution
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don't think this has anything to do with locks. Any way mine is set as u hv said. Considering yr suggestion & the another here and that my settings are exactly as u both hv suggested, cud it b that samsung has made such a mess that certain issues are machine specific ? Wudn't that b just great!!!
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Go into your sound settings (Settings -> Sound Settings -> Ring) and check the alert type. Sounds like you have "Vibrate then ring" selected. If you select "Vibrate and ring", it'll function a little bit smoother.
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Its already set that way. I think I may have overeacted with initial missing 3 rings. I think I missed it due to some network issue. Thanks anyway.
No fix for 3sec low ring till now..
I just increased the first 3 seconds of my ringtone.. good workaround..
Aafi-rocks said:
No fix for 3sec low ring till now..
I just increased the first 3 seconds of my ringtone.. good workaround..
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Which part have you worked around?
bimboybimboy said:
Which part have you worked around?
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He means you can use "Audio Editor" program on PC to increase the volumn of the first 3 seconds of your ringone.
I actually do have (on Verizon i920) a delay of 3-4 rings (at the callers end) before my phone rings or vibrates. I think I have a bad phone as no one else seems to have this issue.
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He means you can use "Audio Editor" program on PC to increase the volumn of the first 3 seconds of your ringone.
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Correct..! or you may also use Mixx Mobile a software to create ringtones on your WinMo phone..

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