Hi guys. I've been trying my bluetooth today on my Hermes (a Dopod 838pro, a HERM100 model). Interestingly I cannot send or receive any files, or contacts, even though to/from another PPC. Anyone experiencing this problem? But BT headset no problem.
Hi, I had same problem until I realised that I hadn't ticked the 'Receive all incoming beams' box in the >'settings'>'connections'>'beam' section.
Did you check this? (sometimes it is easy to overlook the obvious)
Isn't that only for IrDA beams though? Or does it also affect BT "beams?" (I've always wondered why Microsoft decided to call something that is in the heart a radio signal a "beam")
I used to think it only related to IR as well but Beam as far as WM 5.0 is concerned, relates to bluetooth and IR.
Yeah, that confused me too... Similarly, if you tap 'n hold on any file and click Beam File... You can send via Bluetooth from that menu too.
I wish they'd renamed it to something other than Beam File, it gets confusing if you've ever owned more than one WM device
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Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
This will help and is free!
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
alvin5785 said:
Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
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Alvin... Try this.
Firstly, turn bluetooth ON, on your phone, in the normal way.
Then, in File Explorer, tap AND HOLD, on an image file, til the context menu pops up (you are probably already doing this anyway, if you say you can send by IR).
Then select the option to "BEAM FILE" to send the image.
Now this is the informative bit... In the screen that then appears, you will see a magnifying glass icon or two - one for Infra Red beaming, the other one meaning it is still searching for devices.
What you SHOULD also have IF another BT device is in range, is a kind of standard radio transmit indicator, of a circle or dot, with radial rings coming out from it (or at least something similar, as I am going of the top of my head here). THIS is the indicator for a BLUETOOTH device. You will have a few of these in the list, if there is more than one device in range
Its a slow discovery process, but after a while, this indicator, will have an identification code alongside it - this is the hexadecimal notation for the device you wish to send it to.
Leave it searching for a while, and this will then change to the proper name of the other device.
At that point, you can then tap SEND where it indicates, to beam the file by BT.
Note - for it to send, the receiving phone needs to be set up to receive files, be discoverable etc etc.
And as a note, for the XDA2 to be able to receive files, the option to Recieve incoming beams, needs to be ON too - this is often forgotten.
See the screen shots I have knowcked up for more info...
hey thxs for tht ppl, i will try what you said 2moro Shadamehr thx. i went to tht link but unfortuneatly it aint really helped, its more to do with power saving n stuff, not sendin files.
erm i do have another question tho, i have a fellin the answers gonna be no. Can i use my bluetooth headset as normal earpiece/mic for system sounds etc not just phone calls?
thx for ur help
Not with the current bluetooth software.
fair dos, ill just av to wait!
but back to the bluetooth manager, why dont i have one? do all xda2's not have one??
and i still havent managed to send owt yet, but i aint tried to hard yet, ill keep at it!
The Microsoft Bluetooth implentation is very different from the ones you'll find on Ipaq machines, which use the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. It seems like a lot of functionality is missing on the Microsoft one, but in fact a lot is there; it's just not logically organised. Downloading and installing the Bluetooth tools linked above will provide some of the features you probably think you're missing. Try it!
Hope this helps.
is there some problem vith ms bluetooth stack, or just with my phone settings, but I cannot receive files from other phones via bluetooth? receiving over ic work superb.
I do not have a wizard but the Jasjar. Althought it may be obvious for you but I thought I should still post this because this is something which often confuses.
In order to receive files via bluetooth you must navigate to "start/settings/connections/beam and set a check mark in the box "receive all incoming beams".
I am not sure if this is exactly how it is in the wizard but maybe it helps.
Please do forgive me if this was something already known to you.
Regards
I dont know the exact cause of my problem, or yours. But i have had no sucess with sending and receiving files between a friends Magician & my wizard. All i have been able to pin this on is the M$ BT stack is poor and hopefully will be fixed in future ROMS. Hopefully your error is just a setting tho..
Is anyone else finding that their bluetooth is really slow at sending and receiving items. Also that there is no way to send items direct to a contact that is in your partnership list, you have to search for them every time you want to send something. If someone has found ways around these problems, please let me know.
an adaption of the Blue angel's bluetooth interface would be lovely. It had loads of options, and let you explore remote devices. This is just like the XDA2.
Would it be possible to port the BA software onto the wizard? I think it uses a different BT stack.
they were able to port the wizards rom to run on a blue angel. I guess they should be able to use the blue angels bluetooth on a wizard.
Please help - is so annoying
Ok, after a little research i found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532 .It has an app which i installed and has helped a little. I can now send images direct to people i have paired with without having to search local bluetooth first. The thing is it only sends images to paired people. I want it to also send sound and video files. When in file explorer, holding down on an image brings up the extra option of "Send image via bluetooth" which then allows to send by the already paired devices. When doing the same on videos and sound, it doesnt give this option. Maybe this can be done in the registry, but i dont know alot about that so maybe someone could help?
i tried this on my kjam and i had a problem with it, so i uninstalled it.
the problem i had is that the bt keep switching off by itself with no reason, even if i was already syncing over bt, the connection is lost suddenly and i found out that the bt is off (even though the bt icon on the system tray shows its still on).
i don't know about you guys, but i had this prob twice, i reinstalled it again and gave me the same prob.
i can live without it.
Ok, maybe that stack is not all that great. After soft reset lost all sound, and BT does not work properly. Uninstalled and back to normal. So again is there any way to send to people in your paired list without having to search for them every time. Is becoming a pain coz some new phones turn off discoverable after 60 seconds. So they have to keep turning theirs back on. Its a simple option, dont know why they didnt put this in. Any help?
I haven't seen more than 50-60KBps. Has anyone else seen higher transfer rates?
Wizard's BT is useless. Buggy, slow and poor.
And it is not v2.0, it is v1.2
It does not have EDR.
It doesn't even have PAN ffs... :x
tsiros said:
I haven't seen more than 50-60KBps. Has anyone else seen higher transfer rates?
Wizard's BT is useless. Buggy, slow and poor.
And it is not v2.0, it is v1.2
It does not have EDR.
It doesn't even have PAN ffs... :x
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Info about BT in wizard. Directly from BT CIG's site. The problem is not with the Wizard, it is in usin MS BT stack.
thanks for that emmeborn, if the problem is the stack, do you know of a stack upgrade which works good? I tried the stack form the blue angel, but stuffed up my phone, so uninstalled it.
actually, i just looked at those pdf files, and at the bottom where it has the revisions, seems they have launched a version around 1 month ago. Would this be a software or hardware update. If its software then i reckon this could solve alot of problems im having.
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actually, i just looked at those pdf files, and at the bottom where it has the revisions, seems they have launched a version around 1 month ago. Would this be a software or hardware update. If its software then i reckon this could solve alot of problems im having.
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It is the long awaited rom update. A test version of that rom has already leaked. You can find more info in the Wizard upgrade forum topic about that version.
I am awaiting the localized swedish version of that rom and the latest about that version is that it should be released mid March.
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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Hi,
You'll probably need to start bluetooth via the comm manager.
It will find other hardware with open bluetooth ports.
- Go to the file you wish to beam to someone else.
- Tap the file (keep the stylus on it untill you get the menu)
- Choose " send file" (this might be called differently, my version is dutch)
- Select bluetooth.
Good luck!
Greetz,
Flar
it doesnt seem to work
when I beam a file, it never detects a bluetooth. all it shows is the Infared and searching... it searches for a long time but never detects a bluetooth. any other suggestions?
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when I beam a file, it never detects a bluetooth. all it shows is the Infared and searching... it searches for a long time but never detects a bluetooth. any other suggestions?
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Hi,
The procedure I gave seems to work properly with my MDA.
You could check if the person you're beaming to has bluetooth (turned on) but I guess you've checked that already.
Otherwise try to minimize the distance between the two pieces of hardware.
If that doesn't solve your problem, I can't help you any further, maybe bring it by the shop where you bought it to have it checked?
Good luck & greetz,
Flar
yeah same here never managed to get bluetooth to work
i found that i needed to enable beam recieve in order to recieve on bluetooth, the incoming and outgoing port stuff i left alone.
so i can now receive files but haven't got a clue how to send them, i make a bluetooth partnership ok (my mate can then send me a file) but i can not find the option to send one back. the file explorer menu doesn't have bluetooth listed on it?
R_J_Webb said:
yeah same here never managed to get bluetooth to work
i found that i needed to enable beam recieve in order to recieve on bluetooth, the incoming and outgoing port stuff i left alone.
so i can now receive files but haven't got a clue how to send them, i make a bluetooth partnership ok (my mate can then send me a file) but i can not find the option to send one back. the file explorer menu doesn't have bluetooth listed on it?
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I am having this same issue. Anyone know the solution? All I want to do is send some files to my wife's v3 but I cant setup a new outgoing port. I am running the latest official rom from cingular.
You need to ensure you already have bluetooth turned on before starting this procedure (many miss this simple point, as they assume it will automatically turned on)
Tap and hold on the file you want to send, and select "Beam"
Wait a few seconds for it to scan for devices.
All IRDA recipients (If any) will be listed, and below them, all available Bluetooth recipients will be shown.
Hope this helps you m8
I'm using TMobile MDA, newest ROM, and having the same problem, I'm able to recieve bluetooth but there is no option for beaming a file via bluetooth, only IR... and yes, bluetooth is enabled properly and I am properly partnered with a V3...
RE: can't beam files using bluetooth port.
lsnizzle said:
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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Make sure both phones are enabled to be "seen" . My friend and I were trying to figure this out the other day, and she has her device set to something like 'make this device invisible' so even though our phones were next to each other, her device wasn't showing up. Once we changed this, both devices were visible.
***However, neither phone was allowing the sending of files to each other thru the bluetooth, and I'm wondering if this has something to do with her having a Sprint Treo 650 w/ Palm OS, and I have Cingular 8125 w/ WM5.... anyone have any answers for this one??***
Thanks in advance.
Hi all,
I know there are plenty of threads about the TyTN bluetooth issues, but my questions differs in two ways which I have yet to come across:
I do NOT have M$ VoiceCommander installed (and don't want to install it)
My bluetooth issue relates to my car's handsfree feature - my TyTN randomly connects and disconnects. Apparently Audis, VWs, BMWs, and Acura's all suffer from this this problem.
The situation:
When I start my car, the phone will successfully merge with my TyTN. Approximately 30 to 60 seconds later, the connection will be lost. Shortly after that the connection will re-establish itself, then it will disconnect itself a short period later. This pattern repeats endlessly.
I've tried each of the following Tweak programs but none have helped.
jetwaremobile
Tweak2k
HTweakC
I've heard that there is some kind of registry tweak that will prevent the bluetooth stack from disconnecting from my car's handsfree feature, but after looking for about 2 days now, I can't find it. Can anyone help?
thanks.
jm
Yep, got exactly the same on my BMW 630....
Can t find any tweak but....
I am a heavy email user (thru BlackBerry connect) and I noticed that
the higher the number of messages stored, the higher disconnections appears.
At the same time, the TyTn is slower and slower....so my idea that this is related to some timeouts somewhere....
For your complete info, the MS bluetooth stack in my previuos S100 have able to.....immobilize my 630 !!!!!!!!! yes, incredible...
The MS stack messed up with the BMW bt ...and this later would stay ON for ever...even after switching car s power off.
This was sucking the car s battery untill the car would start !...
BMW could not reset the BT module unless disconnecting battery....but...then the active steering had to be re adjusted with the proper BMW computer...
This is a real story.
johnmclean said:
Hi all,
I know there are plenty of threads about the TyTN bluetooth issues, but my questions differs in two ways which I have yet to come across:
I do NOT have M$ VoiceCommander installed (and don't want to install it)
My bluetooth issue relates to my car's handsfree feature - my TyTN randomly connects and disconnects. Apparently Audis, VWs, BMWs, and Acura's all suffer from this this problem.
The situation:
When I start my car, the phone will successfully merge with my TyTN. Approximately 30 to 60 seconds later, the connection will be lost. Shortly after that the connection will re-establish itself, then it will disconnect itself a short period later. This pattern repeats endlessly.
I've tried each of the following Tweak programs but none have helped.
jetwaremobile
Tweak2k
HTweakC
I've heard that there is some kind of registry tweak that will prevent the bluetooth stack from disconnecting from my car's handsfree feature, but after looking for about 2 days now, I can't find it. Can anyone help?
thanks.
jm
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I have the same problem with a CK3100 kit, don't have a solution, but would like one, didn't have this problem with a Jasjar nor Wizard
TyTN bluetooth | random disconnect when using car handsfree - more details
Thanks for the replies so far.
Although the following thread did not help me with my problem, it might help one of you. If you're having problems mostly related to issuing voice commands using M$ VoiceCommander, I think there *might* be a solution in that other thread for you.
Just to reiterate my problem; my TyTN keeps randomly connecting and disconnecting from my car's built-in hands free bluetooth device.
There was a time when if i managed to made a call after first starting the car - before the first random disconnect - the phone would remain connected until the next time I started the car. That no longer appears to be the case.
-jm
I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.
Has anyone tried a ROM with aku 3.3?
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Has anyone tried a ROM with aku 3.3?
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Yes.
And on my CK3100 I now no longer get disconnects. I did have to uninstall jetware as it wasn't reliable. My TyTN now connects perfectly and no longer drops.
One thing I did find is that the TyTN hates it when more than one handsfree device is in its trusted list. Make sure that the ck3100 is the only handsfree device paired.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&highlight=bluetooth+keeps+disconnecting
ajax007 said:
I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.
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I've tried changing the automatic switch off setting and it made no difference on my SPV M3100 (with Parrot CK3100) - I reckon that the external power is what fixed your problem (this has worked for others too).
Sadly it's not a convenient fix as I like to leave my phone in my pocket when I'm in and out of the car. Orange say there is no 'issue' so there's no sign of a ROM update but HTC know of the problem but I have to wait for Orange to release their ROM update. I can't use the HTC update. If only us Orange users could tell them enough times they might listen now that some AKU 3.3s are being released. Orange technical department won't speak to end users like me - they have actually refused to discuss it with me and just pass messages back and forth from customer relations. Any other ideas?
A solution - thanks to Parrot
Yippee - thanks to Parrot I have got a solution to the TYTN / CK3100 problem (my phone is the Orange SPV M3100).
As Orange and HTC can't find any solution I kept asking Parrot for ideas. Their excellent customer service department tried various settings which made no difference until I was offered a trial of some beta test software called VCF creator. Once you have the VCF from the PC's Outlook you just need to beam it by BT across to the CK3100 and alter some settings (takes 5 minutes maximum). The small sacrifice is that you don't have auto-synchronisation so if your numbers change a lot you will need to do another VCF upload. The extra bonus benefit is that all your numbers will be grouped together. So, for example, you access someones name and then you can see their mobile/home/work number rather than having a separate line in the main list for each phone number. The problem is a result of how Windows Mobile phones provide the data. With this bonus you can then use voice activation to input a name followed by a keyword mobile, home, work etc. Fantastic!
587dan said:
Yippee - thanks to Parrot I have got a solution to the TYTN / CK3100 problem (my phone is the Orange SPV M3100).
As Orange and HTC can't find any solution I kept asking Parrot for ideas. Their excellent customer service department tried various settings which made no difference until I was offered a trial of some beta test software called VCF creator. Once you have the VCF from the PC's Outlook you just need to beam it by BT across to the CK3100 and alter some settings (takes 5 minutes maximum). The small sacrifice is that you don't have auto-synchronisation so if your numbers change a lot you will need to do another VCF upload. The extra bonus benefit is that all your numbers will be grouped together. So, for example, you access someones name and then you can see their mobile/home/work number rather than having a separate line in the main list for each phone number. The problem is a result of how Windows Mobile phones provide the data. With this bonus you can then use voice activation to input a name followed by a keyword mobile, home, work etc. Fantastic!
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If you use the Jetware BT software you can do the same thing e.g. beam the whole contact list in one go and then set the Parrot to not sync by choosing the Ericsson No Sync profile. This is how I have mine set up, also with the Jetware software it sends over the Service Provider, Battery and Signal strength settings to the Parrot, something which the native stack doesnt do.
Solution for this
Hey all, i have purchased a parrot 3100, the software in it was 1.6, i had the same problems but it's greatly and successfully solved using the new jetware 1.3 . i don't know if i can post some linx here, but here you go, if this is illegal for this site please remove them
http://rapidshare.com/files/30296941/JetWare_1.3.rar
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PL5UX5KC