When I first bought my Xperia, I HATED it! I was forced to give up my iPhone due to some of the “Call acknowledgement” programs that our hospitals use would not recognize the iPhone email format.
***skip to bold for what latest software progression is***
So I bought the Xperia and:
It wouldn’t play Youtube video AT ALL!
It was slow as hell.
It froze up constantly…AND WHAT THE HELL IS THIS 5 TO 15 SECONDS BEFORE THE SCREEN REACTS TO A BUTTON PRESS CRAP?!?!?!?
Video playback was terrible and it was a pain to convert movie in the first place.
Camera performance was slow slow slow and poor
Windows itself is clunky and unrefined.
Call signal was weak and volume low
Media panel volume was low and noisy.
Why in the wide wide world off sports would Sony use a resistive screen instead of capacitive glass covered in this day and age? With a stylus no less.
FIRST time round:
-So I found XDA and:
Installed Youtube.cab and Panel. – First problem down!
Found the Video with Hardware acceleration thread – there are my pretty decent results (not perfect but decent) video convertor.
Found the Turbo your X1 thread and my video was greatly improved.
Loaded Xperiatweak and changed a Bunch of annoying Xperia behaviors and setting
Loaded SDTuneup.cab and was nicely surprised by the improvement.
Found the benchmark posts and played with setting constantly improving the performance more.
Found all the different tips and tricks threads between Xperia and HTC forums….nice!
SECOND incarnation:
-Then loaded the leaked X1i_GENERIC_UK_CDF1215-1832_R2AA008 rom and loaded from the SD card.
Hey! Everything and I mean everything works faster!
Video looks better!
Installed all of my old programs and tweaks plus the simple battery colors cab. SHAZAM! This is nice!
It is locking up WWAAYY less.
Youtube videos look 90% as good as they do on the iPhone.
I am getting happy with the phone,
I am no longer switching sim to my iPhone on the weekends. I may carry it to have a movie on hand but that is it.
I get the Sony panel set up to my PERFECTION with 3 RSS feeds, Calendar, com managers, and launch icons.
By now I’ve found the stylus is much easier to use when surfing full web pages as the icons and links are tiny but usable.
I am finding myself constantly pulling our my Xperia to play with it now.
AND FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
-I loaded (via SEUS) X1i_GENERIC_UK_CDF1215-1832_R2AA010 rom
** HOLY CRAP! After 4 hours of use the Xperia is working as quickly was the 008 upgrade was after a week with tweaks installed**
-Installed sdkcerts followed instantly by SEX1cons "Q series v1.1”. WOW! This looks slick as hell! I mean really ‘effing good!
-Installed Youtube Panel and cab. I can’t watch and download “HD videos” at the same time without lag. But after loading, “HD” trailers and such look 95% as good as they did on my iPhone. (almost there guys)
-Installed Xperiatweak
-REMOVED Xperiatweak – found that the Memory tweaks actually reduced my overall speed and if even attempted the default Panel mode would lock up my Xperia Constantly until a hard reset was performed. The "memory tweaks" made by Xperia tweak would also be reset to original by the phone. (advanced configs would not) I don't think everyone has had these issue with it but I found Xperia tweak more of a problem than a help at this time.
-Installed advancedConfig.cab and did almost EVERYTHING (sms notice, security notice disable, ) than I could from Xperiatweak (default IE cache, pic/video location, pressure threshold, etc)
- Put my memory settings (except for glyph cache-32kb) back to Original rom (File system-enabled, system cache-auto, filter cache-disabled) and found my Xperia is fastest here (don’t know why yet)
-Installed tomtom7.9 –downloaded the free map and a voice. With the help of quickGPS info TomTom locks on in about 10-15 seconds.
-Overall media volume seems improved too. I am not hearing any of the noise between tracks or when searching for tracks.
-Installed Facebook panel and have not seen anylock ups at all from it. And it is nice and speedy now.
BOTTOM LINE:
When out to eat, I find myself throwing my phone up on the table with all of the other tards who throw their iPhones and Storms on the table to show off. I know I won't be embarrased by lock ups when they pick it up and start flipping through panels and programs. I am smilling by the "ooo's and ahh's" of having weather, calender, communications, launchers, and RSS feeds all on ONE screen. And TOMTOM (with Ozzy voice) seems to just blow everyone away. MY phone was crowned the new king of the hill and I am loving it!
Best of all, I seem to be installing programs for customizing looks and preferences instead of installing programs just to try and improve performance.
If you just want to be able to pickup your phone, load and ap or a song on and go, the iPhone is for you. If you want to be able to mold your phone to the way YOU want it.....the Xperia is it baby!
I,m Going the opposite way im afraid.. I am experiencing multiple crashes. my 2 week old xperia has a crack at volume button, its not very thumb friendly unless you install tf3d which i did. I really wish my operator O2 uk would stock htc phones becuse it appears this is a pig in a poke this model so its getting taken back to o2 and swapped for a ..iphone 3g i always insisted i would not get one, but now i am im going to jail break it etc hopefully by the time upgrade comes again o2 stock htc and i will know exactly where to come for all the help in the world bye people thanyou for all your help and advice during the short time i had an htc phone
respect kdspiv
i will send your text to friends who don't like the xperia hahhaa
The cracking thing scares me. I am planning on living with the crack when mine start to develope. But so far, even after two drops (I have to carry my phone and email 24x7 so my Xperia is CONSTANTLY being handled, slid into labcoat pocket, jeans pocket etc.) I haven't had issues yet.
The iPhone is kick butt. But there those of us (in a hospital setting for example) who live and die by enterprise business email AND have to rely on the phone to wake us up from a dead sleep. The lack of end-user settings (email format, hell..even email notification VOLUME) make the iPhone unusable.
The Xperia has it faults. And for those who like the "pick up and play" aspect of the iphone with movies and apps (like I did) the Xperia has a tough battle.
If sony would make a plug and play accelerometer (maybe internal to a class 8, 16 gig sd card maybe *i can dream right*) I would be a happy camper.
iPhone is a closed, locked room: WYSiWYG
Win is a crappy old room, but open, with potential, and inivting to paint & decorate
I had NEVER thought of tweaking a DLL or a system file in my whole life until this beauty came to my hands and stared at me saying: "make me yours, I will mod to your desires"
I'm happy
I LOVE xda-devs and I LOVE my SE-X1/HTC Kovsky
gtrab said:
iPhone is a closed, locked room: WYSiWYG
Win is a crappy old room, but open, with potential, and inivting to paint & decorate
I had NEVER thought of tweaking a DLL or a system file in my whole life until this beauty came to my hands and stared at me saying: "make me yours, I will mod to your desires"
I'm happy
I LOVE xda-devs and I LOVE my SE-X1/HTC Kovsky
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I can happily say, without any exageration, your SE-X1 was a nice portion of me finally coming to love my Xperia.
And something people who pickup my phone for the first time immediately notice. (especially the blutooth/headphone icon for some reason)
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I,m Going the opposite way im afraid.. I am experiencing multiple crashes. my 2 week old xperia has a crack at volume button, its not very thumb friendly unless you install tf3d which i did. I really wish my operator O2 uk would stock htc phones becuse it appears this is a pig in a poke this model so its getting taken back to o2 and swapped for a ..iphone 3g i always insisted i would not get one, but now i am im going to jail break it etc hopefully by the time upgrade comes again o2 stock htc and i will know exactly where to come for all the help in the world bye people thanyou for all your help and advice during the short time i had an htc phone
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O2 do stock HTC phones, they just call them O2 phones instead - check them out on their site, they're almost identical to the normal HTCs, but with a little branding.
For me its all about the journey.
The process of improvement and customisation is very satisfying. Its like the difference between givin a house which needs doing up to your tastes and your needs, which is Xperia, and someone giving you a brand new rented house,the same as everybody elses, but you cant change anything in it, apart from buying new stuff.
No 2 Xperias are the same, check out this thread to see the vast array of looks and UI avaliable for X1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459241
DIY-ing is very satisfying !
Good thread this !
So R2AA010 works good huh? I'm waiting for a chef to cook up a new Rom base on this build, it's tempting for me to load it up with SESU but I dont want all the crap with it. Glad to see your X1 running good.
man I could convince plenty of my friends by sending them this thread.
but I wanna stay the only one with a SEX1 (cool name by the way) in town
but just as mentioned in the first post, I really was dissapointed for the first 2 weeks.
this is my first winmo device, I had no clue what possibilities there are.
today I'm totally satisfied with it, and not longer jealous on iPhone users.
greez
romeo0119 said:
So R2AA010 works good huh? I'm waiting for a chef to cook up a new Rom base on this build, it's tempting for me to load it up with SESU but I dont want all the crap with it. Glad to see your X1 running good.
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It is working pretty well for me. The couple of issues I have seen are these.
XperiaTweak - did not work so hot for me with RA10.
-First, if I tried ever uning the "default" panel setting it would lock to the windows panel no matter which panel was selected in the program. And eventually would just lock up the machine all together.
-Second, when I tried the memory tweak the Xperia would actually slow down. And eventually it would revert itself back to stock memory settings.
second-Memory settings in general - Everything seems to work better at the stock settings. Maybe after the flash "breaks in" tweaking the memory via schaps advanced config will work better. Changing the glyph cache to anything besides 8 made no difference in the speed of movies or panels.
Also, for some reason setting the IE cache locations to the SD card causes IE to stop functioning. Opera still will at this time. I am not familiar enough to know if Windows doesn't clear out the history and cache when it is on the SD or not. So now I use the SD as default storage for pics and Xperia video only.
It takes twice as long to boot up as it did at RA8
Whether right or wrong, these are my observations so far.
Oops....forgot to say good things.
1. When opening up keyboard, landscape mode is instant. I mea it is complete by the time the keyboard open or closed.
2.Panel button still takes a good 5 seconds to deploy the panel navigation screen. BUT the screen are super fluid and the time it takes to completely implement a panel is 4 seconds flat from selection to fully functional with all my RSS feeds, weather, etc.
3. Menus are instant. All screens move much more fluid and programs start very quickly after selection now. EXCEPT for ANY program that changes settings such as Scheps Advanced Config or Xperia tweak. These types of programs seem to take almost twice as long to start up on my device as they did in RA8.
4. Phone Signal strength is very much better for me. I would lose signal in most areas of the hospital especialy Radiology (lead shielding) and anywhere in the Garden Cafeteria level (basement). But I have noticed today that I have had full strength everywhere and even half bars in Radiology with T-mo.
5. Over all system volume is better. Wired headphones is slightly louder, AD2P bluetooth is unchanged. But low volume movies are definitely louder and the Mp3 ringers are noticably louder too.
6. My wifi clicks on and off more often and doesn't seem to have a strong a lock as it did before. How ever internet speeds are a bit better when fully connected and my battery usage seems a bit better.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS JUST WHAT I AM EXPERIENCING!!!! It seems each Xperia varies depending on how clean the rom loads or softwares loads were. Someone may break down the software and find out there are no changes and this is all in my head. But these are my results so far.
I'm glad for you
However, you should check the youtube again, My X1i kicks iPhone's behind in viewing any video, just the 800x480 vs 320x480 killed all my iPhone friends.
Well, in resoloution yes. Especially if you watch something like the NVIDIA HD demonstration video. BUT, I still have a bit of either lag or frame drop. I am not sure which is correct but they both equate to the Iphone still having smoother video both on youtube and on regular video.
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Well, in resoloution yes. Especially if you watch something like the NVIDIA HD demonstration video. BUT, I still have a bit of either lag or frame drop. I am not sure which is correct but they both equate to the Iphone still having smoother video both on youtube and on regular video.
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Remember: when in 800x480, the device has to move FIVE TIMES MORE INFO (pixels per frame) than running the same video over a 320x240 device
800x480 = 384,000 pixels displayed per frame
320x240 = 76,800 pixels displayed per frame
To be fair, better compare a QVGA video on both devices, sans resizing
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Remember: when in 800x480, the device has to move FIVE TIMES MORE INFO (pixels per frame) than running the same video over a 320x240 device
800x480 = 384,000 pixels displayed per frame
320x240 = 76,800 pixels displayed per frame
To be fair, better compare a QVGA video on both devices, sans resizing
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You are exactly right. BUT!!!! 95% of the people who are going to compare them have a friggin CLUE about what you just said. They are simply going to look at it and say "Its not as good as my iphone" because they see the jerkyness before they seen the better resoloution.....
Maybe I am wrong about this on the larger picture. But in the people who have compared my Xperia to the iphone, this has deffinitely been the case.
I think both of you are right, but at the same time thats not point of the youtube issue, for me at least. Mine isnt working smooth anymore. It used to, when I was using the stock rom. So something definitely changed in the firmware that is causing problems. The X1 is definetly capable of pushing those HD youtube vides at the full 800x480 res-I know becuase mine used to. Not anymore
Welcome
A hearty welcome to the windows mobile community my friend.
kdspiv said:
It is working pretty well for me. The couple of issues I have seen are these.
XperiaTweak - did not work so hot for me with RA10.
-First, if I tried ever uning the "default" panel setting it would lock to the windows panel no matter which panel was selected in the program. And eventually would just lock up the machine all together.
-Second, when I tried the memory tweak the Xperia would actually slow down. And eventually it would revert itself back to stock memory settings.
Just a thought re the memory tweak slowing your x1 down... when I was fiddling after flashing to 010 from 008 I noticed that the glyph cache was at 128 instead of the lower 32 that I was using previously... so I made sure to keep the higher setting... perhaps the stock setting was higher?
second-Memory settings in general - Everything seems to work better at the stock settings. Maybe after the flash "breaks in" tweaking the memory via schaps advanced config will work better. Changing the glyph cache to anything besides 8 made no difference in the speed of movies or panels.
I see you already did the glyph cache thing, disregard the above then? I also set the file system cache to 8mb and noticed that it was already enabled (but on 2mb) unlike the previous ROM and finally I also set the file system filter cache to 16384 sectors... this worked nicely on the last ROM so giving it a try now..
Also, for some reason setting the IE cache locations to the SD card causes IE to stop functioning. Opera still will at this time. I am not familiar enough to know if Windows doesn't clear out the history and cache when it is on the SD or not. So now I use the SD as default storage for pics and Xperia video only.
It takes twice as long to boot up as it did at RA8
I am not sure if mine is twice as long but its certainly a bit longer, although the more times I reboot it the faster it seems to get... could be just me getting used to it though...
Whether right or wrong, these are my observations so far.
Oops....forgot to say good things.
1. When opening up keyboard, landscape mode is instant. I mea it is complete by the time the keyboard open or closed.
I found this too... was working very well before but now seems to anticipate the change and does it instantaneously...
2.Panel button still takes a good 5 seconds to deploy the panel navigation screen. BUT the screen are super fluid and the time it takes to completely implement a panel is 4 seconds flat from selection to fully functional with all my RSS feeds, weather, etc.
Same with my device... I count to about 2 or 3 before the panel is up and ready for action, much much faster there...
3. Menus are instant. All screens move much more fluid and programs start very quickly after selection now. EXCEPT for ANY program that changes settings such as Scheps Advanced Config or Xperia tweak. These types of programs seem to take almost twice as long to start up on my device as they did in RA8.
Blazingly instant... it seems much more responsive and the windows folder comes up in about half the time... progs start awesomely fast and even Advanced Config is quick, I dont use xperia tweak so cant comment there...
4. Phone Signal strength is very much better for me. I would lose signal in most areas of the hospital especialy Radiology (lead shielding) and anywhere in the Garden Cafeteria level (basement). But I have noticed today that I have had full strength everywhere and even half bars in Radiology with T-mo.
I agree with this also... now where I used to get the G icon I get the E icon plus better sig strength... (o2)
5. Over all system volume is better. Wired headphones is slightly louder, AD2P bluetooth is unchanged. But low volume movies are definitely louder and the Mp3 ringers are noticably louder too.
Havent tried the headphones or movies yet... but its on my list as I have to study for a presentation this thursday so transferred my mp3 files for that and will be using it later...
6. My wifi clicks on and off more often and doesn't seem to have a strong a lock as it did before. How ever internet speeds are a bit better when fully connected and my battery usage seems a bit better.
Have not tried the wifi yet, but edge etc works very well... I agree with the comment on battery power, perhaps they are using a new power management system? I was installing/playing/tweaking my phone for 3 hours last night and it dropped to 90, no big deal I thought but another 3 hours (how time flies when you are having fun) later it was on 80, went to bed and this morning still 80 even with texts and weather update through the night... great stuff...
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS JUST WHAT I AM EXPERIENCING!!!! It seems each Xperia varies depending on how clean the rom loads or softwares loads were. Someone may break down the software and find out there are no changes and this is all in my head. But these are my results so far.
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I am very pleased you gave me the nudge to switch to the 10 ROM over the 08... it might be a list of little things but over all the experience is now much faster and smoother... well worth the change...
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WHOAAAA! I think you are right! I hard reset to revert back to stock RA10 rom. Even though glyph cache came up in advanced config as 8, when I used another program to to views "device settings and stats" .... glyph cache is set to 128. What?! Dangit, which one is correct? I am not sure how to look through the registry and find out the actual setting but that is next on my what-to-learn list.
Maybe a conflict of some sort was the factor slowing my configuration type programs down?
So now I am finding a good portion the xperia-video-stutter may be mostly to video conversion and finding the proper convertor. (I know some of it is a driver issue) Yes, I have used the video converter listed on here. And it IS easy to use, but dang it is finicky, for me at least, as to how well it converts from movie to movie.
I have downloaded the examples on the thread. But they have a tiny bit of drop too. If I view them on the laptop the video has the same fluidity as it does on my Xperia. Again, resolution looks GREAT and motion is almost there.....but I want it all!
Another Xperia owner and myself have been traded a couple of movies. His movies look a tad better. His suggestion is that I get a better video ripper. His is on Mac so he cannot share his with me.
Sidenote:
I also tried movies converted for my PSP through video vault for the sheer helluvit. They look pretty decent but the sound is ALWAYS off.
Wow, I am really glad for you. With XDA-devs around you never have to fear any software problems/bugs/insufficiency.
With dedicated developers who don't ask for much other than thanks and occasional donations, you will be really fine and happy on the software front
God forbid the following, but wait until the paint on your device start peeling off, wait until your keys decolorizing, wait until scratches appear on your keyboard, wait until pieces of your keyboard fall off, wait until your d-pad start cracking, wait until your device crack without any agitation on your part AND wait until your keys GET UNRESPONSIVE(you get tactile response but no character appearing).
I am being a wet-blanket but fret not, the telecom/service centre will show you love by giving you free-repair/exchanges.
I have spent literally hours culling the different threads looking for what others have set their X1’s to. These threads are to improve performance in specific areas and people change them over and over using different benchmarks…..ARGGHHH!!!! It makes for tedious research!
So for me and other noobs can you you fellows please post the performance settings and contributing hardware in your X1 that you currently use and are happy with? If NOTHING else just fill out at least the cache settings you are using? I am not interested in benchmarks here PLEASE!!! My X1i scores lower on benchmarks now than it did with the old roms with loads of tweaks…but real world performance is spectacularly better now!
So if you want to really help out and post all your info, Please use a format kind of along the lines I will use.
(optional but appreciated)--Used mostly for--Business first and foremost (enterprise mail and data connection are enabled no matter what applications are other wise running). Then it is used for movies and music as it replaced my iPhone.
(optional but appreciated)--Ultimate Goal for Tweaks used—VIDEO PLAYBACK - I wanted movies and youtube to run perfectly smooth without dropping frames. AND do this while data connection and enterprise were in use.
---Device info:--
X1i w/ R2AA010 (GENERIC_UK)
8gig SD card (class 8)
--Programs in use to improve performance—
SDtuneup
Schaps advanced config
--Cache Settings—File system cache: Enabled
File system cache size: 8MB
File system filter cache: Disabled
Glyph cache: 32KB
(optional but appreciated)--Other Settings that MIGHT be helping--I have installed or moved all possible programs to the SD card
Also on the SD card is the default storage location for:
Image files
Audio files
Video files
Downloads
IE cache
IE cokies
IE history
Illumination is NOT enabled.
--Performance and Pros for these settings—Overall performance is snappy as hell. Landscape to portrait change is instant as are menu pop ups. Panels are deployed 2seconds after the panel button is pressed and panels are fully functional 4seconds after selection.
--Possible problems or cons noticed for these settings—Maximum battery time is about 10 hours now with 6-7 hrs of actual use on a charge being normal.
(optional but appreciated)--What two tweaks gave the most improvement?—
Upgraded Fimware was number one as this improved everything my phone does. And even though I have read that is doesn’t matter….easily the single best tweak I made to my X1 was the Class 8 speed, 8gig, SD card. This made the most difference to my video playback (of properly converted movies). The intial run of IE or anything sucks while the X1 rights the folder for it on the SD card but after that performance is golden. All of my programs run perfectly from it where with my class 4 sand and class 6 Kingston cards caused lags and lock ups.
(optional but appreciated)--Any BAD setting or software Tweak for YOUR X1?--Enabling "filter system cache" ALWAYS made my X1 slower over time and eventually reduced stability. I HATED the random, little, 'effing freezes that I constantly got. I unloaded, relaoded, deleated and hard reset over and over until I found leaving this cache and just using my X1 resulted in the fastest and stable real world X1...at least in my case.
(optional but appreciated)--Other useful info to achieve performance goal—
DVD Catalyst 3 has finally given me the video play back results I wanted. Nice and smoooooth!
Catalyst Settings.
Ipod Touch (HQ) high quality
Video 500kps normal and 700kps for show off movies
25fps
128kps on sound
720 x 526 resoloution
(optional but appreciated)--Any stupid or ghetto mods, software, etc. you did to improve your X1—
I removed the plastic battery label and put a small amount of heat sink compound between the metal of the battery and the metal X1 battery cover. The result is that at first my X1 would hit 110F degrees when watching YouTube “HD” videos while receiving emails. But now the temp NEVER EVER gets above 95F degrees…..So it is ghetto but it works. BUT the phone feels warmer in your hand of course. HA!
(BTW: I did cut out the battery info portion of the label and put it back on the battery)
Your settings look fine. You don't need to use SDtuneup, as it won't work on the R2AA.
I know MY settings are fine! At least for video playback.
For a lack of a better way to put it, I want to start a database of settings.
For example, if I wanted to set up my X1 to run Excel better or optimize 3D gaming I could see what others have used to achieve this already.
And Sd tuneup made a difference according to sk benchmark......but I am sure those results might be suspect.
I'm looking for a true indication of FPS for my device. Standalone benchmark apps are nice, but only report marks gained from within their own processes, which in most cases there is little overhead and are written to be as streamlined as possible.
Does anyone know of a benchmark or any other type of app, that continuously displays a frames per second value in the top notification bar while you're running everyday apps?
I'm in a discussion with an iPhone user who mentions that regardless of the running app, the screen runs at a constant 60fps, but I find this to be a bit of a stretch.
I'd be curious to know what the average running FPS is while just normally using this Android device.
A FPS monitor isn't going to tell you much when most applications really don't update the screen more than once or twice in a second. Sure, it'd tell you if the phone's refreshing properly when you're scrolling, switching screens, etc, but the metric is pretty much useless outside of games or the standalone benchmarks you mention.
You can certainly get a 'constant 60fps' if the display update layer and the application layer are disconnected from eachother - basically if an app can only draw 10 frames per second, you'll still only see 10 changes per second, all the while the phone can happily tell you that it's updating the screen at 60fps. This is more akin to refresh rate than frame rate.
A better metric would be a process that takes low-priority and updates a counter at some set interval. If it falls behind, you know things are running slowly (ie. it can't get a CPU slot to update).
So yeah, the FPS indicator you're looking for wouldn't do much but tell you your refresh rate, which really doesn't change.
Ahh, good points. I hadn't thought it through that way.
running aosp cm right now and everytime I press the button to take a picture theres like a 3-5 second lag after pressing it. is this normal? Does not happen with video.
another problem I had was that I had a problem with my car making a wierd noise, so I decided to take a video with my hero so I could upload it on youtube for my friend hear the noise. The video plays great on the phone...when I upload it directly to youtube it gets fuzzy and distortioned and the sound is whack. I transferred the video to my pc and it plays fine problem is when I upload it to youtube
had a similar issue the other day when I recorded something and when I started playing it on the phone it looked fuzzy like I stated above.
could this p0roblem be caused by an SD booster app I have installed? its set to 2048kb I believe.
and the gallery app is really laggy for me so I downloaded quickpic from the market...when I look at some pictures they look low quality compared to the gallery app.
I'd appreciate some input on this if anyone has had a similar problem
other than that my phone has been rock solid! Thanks guys
Edit this is the video I shot...clearly not the noise my car is making....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGpE85MF28s
sorry don't know how to put an embed code on here for the video :/
the 'stock' camera app is less than desirable. From what I've heard, this is the truth with just about all android phones, for various reasons. I also experience the lag you speak of, but not with the MIUI camera app that's listed in the 'heroc apps and themes' forum (i posted it for you in the other thread)
as far as videos/youtube, you might want to run the video file through a codec converter to clean it up. if i remember correctly youtube likes certain file types better than others.
Keep in mind this phone is running an ARM6 processor. custom ROMs improve usage, but only when configured properly, and even then it's still like running windows 7 on a single core processor with 512RAM. You might want to try tinkering with overclocking at this point... just do a nandroid backup in clockwork beforehand, and you'll be able to revert changes back to a working config if you get bootlooped.
got the nandroid setup, what settings do you recomend for cpu usage?
Set the ' set on boot' setting to off, set on demand for governor.
Start with 392 low 691 high, and putz around the phone opening a bunch of apps, just generally trying to max out cpu usage. If that doesn't crash the phone (though you will eventually see performance degradation) then that setting is safe. push the low cpu setting down / high setting up
A single notch, repeat. Keep doing this until 176\729. If that setting works, set it to set at boot.
you can try pushing for the higher ones, but probably best not to use 19 for the low just stick to 176.
Sent from my derp.
Well turns out the aac compressor on my car is bad :/
Back on topic, ill be sure to check it out later when i get home.
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There are a bunch of third party camera apps in the market that should fix the lag problem ... had to use it for one of the sensible salsa builds, fixed the issue for me.
slimshade4545 said:
There are a bunch of third party camera apps in the market that should fix the lag problem ... had to use it for one of the sensible salsa builds, fixed the issue for me.
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OK, since I have been digging and fighting issues with my 2nd hand Note 8.0 for testing with KK, I stumbled upon a quick and dirty way to fix AllShareCast once and for all.
Search on the main search bar for S5 libs... there are S5 4.4.2 build Apps you can download as a zip package.
Once you open it you will see all the Allshare.apk and odex files.
Just rename your originals before copying over the 14 in total, S5 versions. Set the permissions and clear the Allshare files in cache, before rebooting.
You can also copy over the two wfd files for a nicer look for allshare connection.
I decided to revert to stock SystemUI to take advantage of the 6 button setup. Low and behold I get S finder and Quick Connect as well when you change the build.prop to use S5 model and name, instead of the ones used for Note 8.0 properties.
Enjoy stutter free wireless video casting with the S5 files.
gooberdude said:
OK, since I have been digging and fighting issues with my 2nd hand Note 8.0 for testing with KK, I stumbled upon a quick and dirty way to fix AllShareCast once and for all.
Search on the main search bar for S5 libs... there are S5 4.4.2 build Apps you can download as a zip package.
Once you open it you will see all the Allshare.apk and odex files.
Just rename your originals before copying over the 14 in total, S5 versions. Set the permissions and clear the Allshare files in cache, before rebooting.
You can also copy over the two wfd files for a nicer look for allshare connection.
I decided to revert to stock SystemUI to take advantage of the 6 button setup. Low and behold I get S finder and Quick Connect as well when you change the build.prop to use S5 model and name, instead of the ones used for Note 8.0 properties.
Enjoy stutter free wireless video casting with the S5 files.
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you should packages all apps, libs into zip file and share it with rest of users....
Here is a zip of the allshare files he was talking about. I only found 13 though. I also included the wfd files he talked about.
Dirty fix without replacing files.
Thanks for both of your replies... Jazzespresso, I am not a developer and because of it, I think the peeps who frequent here find my posts interesting for thought for the most part. I have two issues to why I am not active in posting my personal fixes as packages. One, too many find issues to why something may break and will expect expertise. The later is I have yet to make a proper package, as every backup I make on the 4.4.2 device soft bricks the device once flashed. So, if any thing being snake bit by my own hand makes me even more shy about giving out anything that I touch upon in making changes.
Now for a great addition to tweaks for the best image quality and playback with allsharecast.
I perposfully made this wordy, so if anyone should attempt, will be informed of what this tweak does and have an understanding of what it affects and how to assess what they are doing. Remember, I did not tell you to do anything, just gave you enough to look into what can be done.
Because I have no ability to push beyond 72mbs on my wireless router with my tablet, I have a limit to how smooth my allshare up and video down streams can work together. I am bottle necked at 40000000 bps with allsharecast. So I would assume 30000000 bps is at the edge of my video downstream with 90 % of the apps I use.
Until recently I checked out Directv sports streaming via allsharecast, and noticed how choppy and blurry it was. Obviously when pushed at the limits of my wireless router connection, audio only would play back or no connection what so ever. Directv live streaming seems mostly effecting sports not programmes or ads in the sports channels.
I figure the live material is true 720p @ 60fps, which taxes the abilities to allsharecast. The device is native 30fps on both HDMI and Allshare, so it has to do twice the work to make an image. Now for the kicker. Directv throttles stream directly, so no caching of data for you. Since the CPU/GPU has to throttle along with the data stream there is a sync delay being made during the process, in which allsharecast cannot work around. The only work around is to push very close to 2x the data as it is factory set for.
Why so much data... Well because you want allsharecast to take what is given by the app to decode into live packets without having to readjust the image to compensate for higher than expected data rates. Each resolution has a specific data rate to transmit or cast out to the WIDI display device. You will see that in the WFDConfig.xml file... that depending on the device that is connected via allsharecast will allow a particular data stream, governed by an option bit. The option bit or bits will select the maximum and any other data stream that it can handshake. The funny thing is, since android does not request the exact min / max values from its connection, it gives a best guess depending on the option bits it reads from the device, as it expects the device to be compliant. Are all devices compliant??? Coming from China and what not... No.
Because most do not know the capabilities of their wireless display adapters or devices, it will be random at best for them to select which area to tweak to allow a higher than maximum value in the xml file. Thus one must perform a shot gun method of hitting as many possible valid settings at once. Leaving the low bit rate values alone as they are a waist to deal with. Though there is a catch... some devices may have odd bits, that do not reflect their capabilities to android, so android may make the wrong guess and push a lower quality bit rate than what the device can deal with. Or in worst case, higher than what the device can operate with, and get no picture or fail to connect display after obtaining IP.
Now that that info has been stated, if by change during the tweak, you find the picture quality less than expected or no connection... that the changes you made must be changed to compensate for going the wrong way.
Now what can be done, as we all think data is compressed all the time, in allshare, WIDI and what other format, the data stream is uncompressed unlike the data stream sent from the servers. It all depends on ones dongle, tellie, or display with miracast capabilities may not have the ability to go beyond 45000000 mbs. Only testing can be done with what ever device you own.
I tested my dongle as it is HDMI 1.4a compliant, and found for a brief moment I was pushing 50000000, until the download stream failed to cache enough for playback. So until I am able to replace my 10 year old DSL wireless router that is being used as a gateway to my DOCSIS modem, I will never be able to test the limits of what my tweaks can do.
I will give only giving out the settings I am using, and not the file as it is modified to the point of being of use for only one of many various Miracast dongles you can find on Ebay. All I can say about the dongle is that it uses the latest firmware (V 5.0.0 - RC2) which I was able to download and flash.
I have realized every app that streams video from the internet uses different streaming techniques and perform stream caching on their own, while others allow Android to perform the task of data caching. As we see more efforts in making faster and larger data packets in streams, we'll see more and more play back issues with KK and LP because newer techniques are expecting real-time decompression during playback. Probably due to copy write protection, as the data is not stored in any way.
In order to fully test my allshare tweaks for KK, you must remove or # any and all build.prop tweaks associated with data and wifi tweaks. Also freeze or remove any app that helps with internet speeds.
Once you are done cleaning up... open the WFDConfig.xml file in the system/etc folder.
If using a device with native 800 x 1280 display make sure the Horizontal res and vertical res is set at 1280 and 720 respectfully. There is no reason why you want Allsharecast to upscale to the default of 1920 x 1080 when all it does is consume battery and cpu / gpu resources to make the best playback possible. This will allow for smooth and reliable wireless display playback under the most demanding material or live streams.
Now for the fun part... meaning you must do the dirty work of finding where to go or just change everything in regaurds to minimum and maximum values ... blah blah blah
I played with drop frame value and others... the only noticeable benefit being limited with my max bandwidth of 72mbs, was to disable MacroBlocks by setting it to 0. This helps a lot with data streams that are not cached.
Now for the values that will boost image quality.
I have successfully tested connectivity and playback with a 30000000 bps MinBitrate and am limited at 40000000 bps at MaxBitrate.
Right now the bigest trouble is with Hulu studdering with movie playback. Once that is corrected with a better app, allshare cast will play back what you see on the tablet screen. I think once someone tests with at least 75000000 bps as MaxBitrate with a 50000000bps MinBitrate, as long as their device can support 80000000 bps and above, Directv will allsharecast without any issues. As seen in my testing, playback via wireless has cleared up substantially, and can watch Hocky and Tennis with synced audio, as before it was not able to. Though there is some skippy and blur, the playback is functional over being unbearable.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. When copying over files from above zip, (thanks cruise350) to system/app folder and replacing allshare files with one in above zip, where do i place the additional odex files?
christucker97 said:
Any help would be greatly appreciated. When copying over files from above zip, (thanks cruise350) to system/app folder and replacing allshare files with one in above zip, where do i place the additional odex files?
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At the time I posted this thread, realized the S5 files helped with allsharecast, but does not truly fix the issue. That is why I bothered to write up a lengthy explanation to fix most of all share cast's picture quality issues.
Until someone see's by doing their own comparison between DLNA and casting, they will not see for themselves how limited the stock bandwidth is, which also effects playback when casting streamed video.
I since reverted back to my original allshareplayer-apk as it seems to be bandwidth unlocked. Now will it be a matter of time when others find using our kk version on their s5 helps them when tweaking their XML file. Who knows, as this tablet is old and will be forgotten for most who have newer devices.
Does files belong with their counter parts. So you must replace both files together.
I do note, that one set of files are the same for both devices.
If you want to keep your WiFi tweaks you may replace the all share player.apk with the s5 version. If you want better, keep the original, and tweak the XML file. Until you properly adjust e XML file, you will never get picture quality as good as DLNA with streamed hd video.