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Questions about radio stack upgrade

I have a Qtek 1010 with ROM version 3.16.13 ENG and Radio version 3.19.01. The phone part of my device is very unstable, so I want to upgrade the radio stack and see if that helps. But I am a little confused about the ROM and radio stack versions and hope someone can answer these questions:
-What is the latest radio stack version?
-Where I can get it?
-Are the radio stacks country specific or provider specific?
-Do I need to upgrade the ROM before I can upgrade to the latest radio stack?
I hope someone can help me with this.

I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions, but I would be very grateful if somone could help me with this. I've seen that there are many different radio stack versions. I would like to know if there is a newer version than 3.19.01 that will work with my Qtek 1010 in Norway.
I called my local dealer who told me that 3.19.01 is the newest upgrade available (but it didn't sound like he knew much about it). Does anyone know if this is correct? And if it is, are there any other radio upgrades that will work with my device? Can I e.g. use O2's upgrade for the XDA?
Once again, I apologize if my questions are foolish or have been answered before.

gu said:
I would like to know if there is a newer version than 3.19.01 that will work with my Qtek 1010 in Norway.
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3.19.01 you said... Hmmmm, we have not studied that particular version yet. Please extract it and FTP it to xda-developers.com user 'xdaftp' password 'xdaftp' if you could.
I called my local dealer who told me that 3.19.01 is the newest upgrade available (but it didn't sound like he knew much about it). Does anyone know if this is correct? And if it is, are there any other radio upgrades that will work with my device? Can I e.g. use O2's upgrade for the XDA?
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You can use anyone's upgrade, really. There a few T-mobile American ROM upgrades which also upgrade the (separate) phone ROM when you install them (which is bad, because the phone software is different between 900/1800 and 900/1900), but otherwise you can play to you heart's content.
Until recently, the coolest thing to run was probably the xda-developer Special Edition ROM v1.2. It was based on the O2 3.17.03 ROM, but had lots of features added. Earlier this week, we released ROMkitchen (click here for more information). Setting up your own kitchen is fairly involved, but people have set up publically accessible kitchens you can use. One example is Jeff's kitchen, but others are bound to pop up all over the place.
In the ROMkitchen, you have a choice of basing your new ROM on the O2 3.17.03 ROM, or on the 4.00.05 Windows Mobile 2003 test ROM that's floating out there, and then you can add the freeware of your choice. Installation is a breeze since the kitchen will produce self-extracting compressed .exe files which you just need to execute to install the new ROM.
Read many other messages here to get a feel for things. There's a number of reasons to still use the 3.17.03 (or 3.19.01...) over the WM2003 thing, but for a lot of others it's already cooler than the 3.xx ROMs.
Once again, I apologize if my questions are foolish or have been answered before.
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Well, to be honest we've been lazy, and we haven't spent enough time on writing really good FAQs that represent the current situation. A case of being too busy building the stuff to actually document it all right. And this forum is so busy that I can well imagine people being overwhelmed by it all. I know I am sometimes...
Good luck... (and please don't forget to extract and FTP the 3.19.01. There's documentation on how to extract and backup your old ROM here..)

Thank you very much for your reply. Are you saying that I can use any radio upgrade with my Qtek, or are you talking about operating system upgrades?
To avoid any possible misunderstanding: My current Radio Version is 3.19.01. I'm having a lot of problems with the phone part of my device, so I'm hoping that there is a newer and more stable radio stack version available.
If you're still interested in my 3.19.01 radio stack, I'll try to ftp it to you, but I'm currently getting a permission denied message from your server. I'll try to access it again later. Or you can download the radio stack from this location.
BTW: The ROMkitchen looks excellent. I'll probably do some cooking there soon.

O2 XDA - Needs help on upgrading current ROM to WM2003 ROM

I'm practicaly a newbie! so pls be patient if some of my questions would sound dumb to many of you techy ppl. I have recently upgraded my stock rom and radio to rom 3.20.06 and radio version 4.21.00 which I got directly from the O2 Xda site. And by accident I've stumbled accross this incredible site " Jeff's Kitchen " which allows XDA users like me to further upgrade our ROM to the latest WM2003. Unfortunately, I am completely blank on how to go about this... Also, I have no idea on what ROM to apply from the ROMs listed on his site. Out of curiousity, I experimented on burning my own ROM and selected 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US and to my surprised the capacity meter indicated "overload" when in fact my XDA RAM size is 64mb, flash size is 32mb and SD card is 256mb. Lastly, when I upgraded my ROM to 3.20.06 everything was as simple as a click of a button.

When you go to the kitchen, you choose which rom you wish to download, I would suggest not using the T Mobile roms unless you are a t mobile customer, once you have chosen the rom you will see next to it the space it will take up in your rom space, the reason for the overload message is you have too many extra items listed, these are shown lower down the screen, just untick all of these, then add the bits you want within the constraints of the memory space available in rom, at the top of the screen it will show you if it will all fit and how much space you have to play with. I always download the rom in .exe format, that allows you to execute the file from desktop and carries out a "normal", upgrade of rom over usb cable/cradle. Always backup existing rom before attempting any upgrades, preferably via the sd method, read about on the forum for this method. This ensures you can always get back to a working system should an error occur. Oh, and moving your mouse over the extra bits in the kitchen will bring up a short note on what that particular program does, also some of the progs are specific to wm2002 or wm2003 which is also shown on screen.

I really appreciate the help but one more thing---somebody told me from another forum that there's no difference if I download ROM 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US due to the fact they are the same XDA unit. So what's your comment about this?

I've downloaded and applied successfully the ROM 4.00.11 ENG to my O2 XDA unit, unfortunately the upgrade did not include the Radio Stack upgrade that's why I'm still using the old radio version 4.21.00. Where can I download the latest version for the Radio Stack upgrade? and what would be the most reliable and stable version applicable for my unit?

We should create a newbie forum!

Regarding the radio stack issues, I really do suggest you hunt around on the forum for info about this, some radio stack upgrades can be problematic if you wish to go back to an earlier build, please make sure you are aware of any pitfalls before carrying out any changes.

Would it be safer for me to just stick to my old radio stack version 4.12.00 since it's been running perfectly well under my old ROM? will it produce conflicts with my newly applied ROM?

Well I am of the school of "if it aint broke leave it alone".

If ever I choose to do a retro-active installation, like going back to my old ROM--should I be doing the same .exe procedures? since I still have my ROM 3.20.00 ENG .exe

Cast yr opinion on d most reliable ROM upgrade for O2 XDA

It has been pretty confusing lately on what ROM and Radio stack upgrades to apply on an O2 XDA unit, especially with the emergence of so many ROM and Radio Stack versions all claiming to have solve the problems of its predecessors. So to your what really is the most suitable, most reliable and most stable ROM and Radio Stack version to use on an O2 XDA unit? and why?
Your opinions are going to be pretty helpful for many O2 XDA users who have been dying to get an upgrade...

I recently intalled and tested ROM 4.00.11 ENG and ROM 4.00.16 T-Mobile as a conclusion -- I noticed that although WM 2003 is impressive and has numerous new features to boast than its predecessor (PPC 2002), it still has to work on several bug issues, specially regarding the issue on stability. Although unsatisfied, I do not regret installing WM 2003 beta on my unit because it gave me a perpective on what to expect of this promising new OS the moment final version upgrade becomes available. Overall, I suggest that it's better for us users to stick to our old ROMs until we get the final release of WM 2003 from our respective manufacturers.
So far, the most stable ROM available that I've tried is ROM 3.20.06 ENG and if you want to know why, then I suggest you try it!
Flashing ROMs is dangerous, it might result to an unusable XDA.
Please try to participate coz' this will serve very useful to many users who've been wanting to grab an OS update!!!

Where abouts did you get 3.20.03?[/quote]

ohenry774 said:
So far, the most stable ROM available that I've tried is ROM 3.20.06 ENG and if you want to know why, then I suggest you try it!
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I USED TO HAVE UPGRADES (SD flash files), BUT I MUST HAVE DELETED THEM, NOW I DONT REMEMBER WHERE I D.L.ed THEM FROM
ANY HELP? :!:

NEVER MIND, I FOUND EM 8)

seem my files are corrupt...so i need help

The RUU 3.20.16 ENG can be downloaded directly from the O2 site!
Please go to this post for instructions on how to properly apply the update
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3274
Hope it helps!!!

Stable ROM(s)

Hi. I have an MDA G3 running xelecin's 2.26 cooked ROM and the 2.47 radio upgrade. I've been having problems with my phone freezing.. Is this a common problem with all ROMs, or do i have an out of date ROM? Any suggestions?
Thanks,

I tried several ROMs!
Most 'home cooked ROms' had problems and issues, so, finally I decided to go with an official ROM and had no further problems!

what's the latest "official" version for the MDA G3?

What language and which network provider?

Junner2003 said:
What language and which network provider?
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USA and T-Mobile.. i read that they don't make a WM6 ROM. I just downloaded a file called "crossbow_reloded_ver1.5.zip" Is this a ROM?
Thanks,

Yep, you will have to unzip it!
Don't be disappointed if that WM6 ROM will not work properly!
The latest official T-Mobile USA ROM is 1.26.2 and can be downloaded at the T-Mobiles homepage! It is almost the latest version. Only T-Mobile Germany has a newer WM5 (AKU3.3) available, bit since that one is in German I do not think you want that?
All available WM6 ROMs are 'user-created', either ripped off from other devices (with other hardware) or build up from a BETA which was around for a while. Most of them have software added which you might not want! Lots of them are even stripped down to get more free available memory in the MDA.
Until now I couldn't find any WM6 cooked ROM without any issues ... that is why I stick with the official one.
Beside that 'cool VISTA look' and HTML support in email (pocket outlook) I could not find any improvements from version WM5 anyway!
HTML email you can get by installing FLEXMAIL 2007 on your MDA, so, why bother and risk to end up with a brick?

I have to respectfully disagree. WHile cooked WM6 roms aren't perfect, I've been running a few now that perform for me better than any stock rom from a provider has ever worked for me. It does really depend on how much your use your phone and what all you do with it to find the right rom for you (so I finally made my own, which is the Crossbow Reloaded v1.5 you have.). I'll admit, its not perfect, but it fits my use. I'll probably be tweaking it some more in the next week or so as I continue to try to "perfect" the rom...

i haven't installed crossbow reloaded 1.5 yet.. so all it does is change the OS part? should i change my radio from the 2.47 one to that UK radio rom that's going around.. eventhough i live in the usa.. also, did you have to downgrade the ROM before upgrading?
Thanks,
-Adam
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I have to respectfully disagree. WHile cooked WM6 roms aren't perfect, I've been running a few now that perform for me better than any stock rom from a provider has ever worked for me. It does really depend on how much your use your phone and what all you do with it to find the right rom for you (so I finally made my own, which is the Crossbow Reloaded v1.5 you have.). I'll admit, its not perfect, but it fits my use. I'll probably be tweaking it some more in the next week or so as I continue to try to "perfect" the rom...
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What is the latest Official ROM of TMobile?I just find 2.21 ROM in http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html.
Is this latest?
And what about 2.26 final of Molski?Is it stable?My wizard is G4 chip!

goto t-mobile.com and search for MDA ROM; 2.26 is the latest official ROM..
Where can I go to get the latest faria ROM? is it the crossbow-reloaded 1.5 ROM, or something else..? I download Molski's latest ROM (the one the the 8MB page pool).. it's the one from his website under the "latest ROM" link.. I can't figure out which to use.. Any suggestions?
Thanks,

Let's try if you want to know.But if you want a stable ROM,let's use WM5 official.It's reason i want to find a latest offical ROM.2.21 is aku 2.0 ROM.So i can't restore clock on task bar.I'm using Molski 2.26 final.But it's cooked ROM.I think it can't more stable than official ROM.Is it true?

Performance related to ROM version?

Hi all,
First post here after discovering this wonderful resource!
I am in the UK and have an O2 XDA Mini S, it was one of the first ones released I think.
I took off all of the O2 stuff as soon as I got it as it was extremely slow!
While it is ok most of the time, the performance can get pretty bad sometimes, seems like theres a memory leak somewhere.
Once rebooted its ok again for a few days.
The IPL and SPL version are both 1.05. I take it this is a very old (First?) version, and was wondering if upgrading it to a newer ROM would help the performance at all?
Other specs are as follows...
Rom Version - 1.5.4.2 WWE
ROM Date - 11/08/05
Radio version - 01.09.10
Protocol Version - 4.0.13.20
Ext ROM version - 1.5.4.102
Thanks...

enCrypt said:
Hi all,
First post here after discovering this wonderful resource!
I am in the UK and have an O2 XDA Mini S, it was one of the first ones released I think.
I took off all of the O2 stuff as soon as I got it as it was extremely slow!
While it is ok most of the time, the performance can get pretty bad sometimes, seems like theres a memory leak somewhere.
Once rebooted its ok again for a few days.
The IPL and SPL version are both 1.05. I take it this is a very old (First?) version, and was wondering if upgrading it to a newer ROM would help the performance at all?
Other specs are as follows...
Rom Version - 1.5.4.2 WWE
ROM Date - 11/08/05
Radio version - 01.09.10
Protocol Version - 4.0.13.20
Ext ROM version - 1.5.4.102
Thanks...
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Can't say I've used a 1.x rom version on my Wizard, but I have used a couple of official 2.1x roms, as well as Faria's WM5 rom and now I use Zoki's NBD WM6 rom. I can definitely say that I've seen performance improvements as I upgraded along this path. I've also found memory mgmt seem to be better on WM6 and I actually see memory reclaimed often, where this never happened before WM6.
Another thing to do is use batterystatus or omap to (slightly) overclock. I overclock to 260MHz using batterystatus.

Thanks for that Titus666,
Bit of a newbie with these things so excuse the question...
Does the ROM contain the OS then? eg. I have WM5 on mine. If I updated to another ROM would it update the OS to WM6 too?
Think I'll have to try a ROM update or 3 then, and try not to break it!

enCrypt said:
Thanks for that Titus666,
Bit of a newbie with these things so excuse the question...
Does the ROM contain the OS then? eg. I have WM5 on mine. If I updated to another ROM would it update the OS to WM6 too?
Think I'll have to try a ROM update or 3 then, and try not to break it!
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Yes, a ROM would contain the OS as well as the supporting apps and drivers like Bluetooth and Wifi etc. So there are many ROMs that are all WM5 but are all different, and similarly there are lots of ROMs that are WM6 but are all different as well.
So yes, if you want WM6, you will need to upgrade the rom. There are a number of sticky threads in the Wizard forums that spells out what needs to be done and what the traps are (and there are lots of traps), so read read read is my advice.