O2 XDA - Needs help on upgrading current ROM to WM2003 ROM - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

I'm practicaly a newbie! so pls be patient if some of my questions would sound dumb to many of you techy ppl. I have recently upgraded my stock rom and radio to rom 3.20.06 and radio version 4.21.00 which I got directly from the O2 Xda site. And by accident I've stumbled accross this incredible site " Jeff's Kitchen " which allows XDA users like me to further upgrade our ROM to the latest WM2003. Unfortunately, I am completely blank on how to go about this... Also, I have no idea on what ROM to apply from the ROMs listed on his site. Out of curiousity, I experimented on burning my own ROM and selected 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US and to my surprised the capacity meter indicated "overload" when in fact my XDA RAM size is 64mb, flash size is 32mb and SD card is 256mb. Lastly, when I upgraded my ROM to 3.20.06 everything was as simple as a click of a button.

When you go to the kitchen, you choose which rom you wish to download, I would suggest not using the T Mobile roms unless you are a t mobile customer, once you have chosen the rom you will see next to it the space it will take up in your rom space, the reason for the overload message is you have too many extra items listed, these are shown lower down the screen, just untick all of these, then add the bits you want within the constraints of the memory space available in rom, at the top of the screen it will show you if it will all fit and how much space you have to play with. I always download the rom in .exe format, that allows you to execute the file from desktop and carries out a "normal", upgrade of rom over usb cable/cradle. Always backup existing rom before attempting any upgrades, preferably via the sd method, read about on the forum for this method. This ensures you can always get back to a working system should an error occur. Oh, and moving your mouse over the extra bits in the kitchen will bring up a short note on what that particular program does, also some of the progs are specific to wm2002 or wm2003 which is also shown on screen.

I really appreciate the help but one more thing---somebody told me from another forum that there's no difference if I download ROM 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US due to the fact they are the same XDA unit. So what's your comment about this?

I've downloaded and applied successfully the ROM 4.00.11 ENG to my O2 XDA unit, unfortunately the upgrade did not include the Radio Stack upgrade that's why I'm still using the old radio version 4.21.00. Where can I download the latest version for the Radio Stack upgrade? and what would be the most reliable and stable version applicable for my unit?

We should create a newbie forum!

Regarding the radio stack issues, I really do suggest you hunt around on the forum for info about this, some radio stack upgrades can be problematic if you wish to go back to an earlier build, please make sure you are aware of any pitfalls before carrying out any changes.

Would it be safer for me to just stick to my old radio stack version 4.12.00 since it's been running perfectly well under my old ROM? will it produce conflicts with my newly applied ROM?

Well I am of the school of "if it aint broke leave it alone".

If ever I choose to do a retro-active installation, like going back to my old ROM--should I be doing the same .exe procedures? since I still have my ROM 3.20.00 ENG .exe

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Questions about radio stack upgrade

I have a Qtek 1010 with ROM version 3.16.13 ENG and Radio version 3.19.01. The phone part of my device is very unstable, so I want to upgrade the radio stack and see if that helps. But I am a little confused about the ROM and radio stack versions and hope someone can answer these questions:
-What is the latest radio stack version?
-Where I can get it?
-Are the radio stacks country specific or provider specific?
-Do I need to upgrade the ROM before I can upgrade to the latest radio stack?
I hope someone can help me with this.
I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions, but I would be very grateful if somone could help me with this. I've seen that there are many different radio stack versions. I would like to know if there is a newer version than 3.19.01 that will work with my Qtek 1010 in Norway.
I called my local dealer who told me that 3.19.01 is the newest upgrade available (but it didn't sound like he knew much about it). Does anyone know if this is correct? And if it is, are there any other radio upgrades that will work with my device? Can I e.g. use O2's upgrade for the XDA?
Once again, I apologize if my questions are foolish or have been answered before.
gu said:
I would like to know if there is a newer version than 3.19.01 that will work with my Qtek 1010 in Norway.
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3.19.01 you said... Hmmmm, we have not studied that particular version yet. Please extract it and FTP it to xda-developers.com user 'xdaftp' password 'xdaftp' if you could.
I called my local dealer who told me that 3.19.01 is the newest upgrade available (but it didn't sound like he knew much about it). Does anyone know if this is correct? And if it is, are there any other radio upgrades that will work with my device? Can I e.g. use O2's upgrade for the XDA?
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You can use anyone's upgrade, really. There a few T-mobile American ROM upgrades which also upgrade the (separate) phone ROM when you install them (which is bad, because the phone software is different between 900/1800 and 900/1900), but otherwise you can play to you heart's content.
Until recently, the coolest thing to run was probably the xda-developer Special Edition ROM v1.2. It was based on the O2 3.17.03 ROM, but had lots of features added. Earlier this week, we released ROMkitchen (click here for more information). Setting up your own kitchen is fairly involved, but people have set up publically accessible kitchens you can use. One example is Jeff's kitchen, but others are bound to pop up all over the place.
In the ROMkitchen, you have a choice of basing your new ROM on the O2 3.17.03 ROM, or on the 4.00.05 Windows Mobile 2003 test ROM that's floating out there, and then you can add the freeware of your choice. Installation is a breeze since the kitchen will produce self-extracting compressed .exe files which you just need to execute to install the new ROM.
Read many other messages here to get a feel for things. There's a number of reasons to still use the 3.17.03 (or 3.19.01...) over the WM2003 thing, but for a lot of others it's already cooler than the 3.xx ROMs.
Once again, I apologize if my questions are foolish or have been answered before.
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Well, to be honest we've been lazy, and we haven't spent enough time on writing really good FAQs that represent the current situation. A case of being too busy building the stuff to actually document it all right. And this forum is so busy that I can well imagine people being overwhelmed by it all. I know I am sometimes...
Good luck... (and please don't forget to extract and FTP the 3.19.01. There's documentation on how to extract and backup your old ROM here..)
Thank you very much for your reply. Are you saying that I can use any radio upgrade with my Qtek, or are you talking about operating system upgrades?
To avoid any possible misunderstanding: My current Radio Version is 3.19.01. I'm having a lot of problems with the phone part of my device, so I'm hoping that there is a newer and more stable radio stack version available.
If you're still interested in my 3.19.01 radio stack, I'll try to ftp it to you, but I'm currently getting a permission denied message from your server. I'll try to access it again later. Or you can download the radio stack from this location.
BTW: The ROMkitchen looks excellent. I'll probably do some cooking there soon.

Special Edition WM2003 Rom?

ok, i have installed the special edition rom for my xda1 and its a definate improvement over the original rom..
but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
of course, if there was a xda-developers special edition rom based on wm2003 that would be the best solution... :?
Nas
There are many WM 2003 ROMs and most of them works quite fine ... try the kitchen at www.yorch.net or http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
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but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
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Where is the WM2003 upgrade from O2??????
Give me alink to download please...
Stefan
I didnt know there was one, anybody else seen it?
nope i cant see it.
my bad
soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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Just do it, upgrade it! I upgraded my Siemens SX56 with AT&T to 2003 and than cooked the rom from Yorch to unlock. By the way, it is a very good rom, thanks Yorch.
I did it with SD cards one of my XDA's, it worked perfect and quick: saved 2003 rom on one card, cooked Yorche's on another. The saving and installation was done through the bootloader as discribed in the proceedures in frequently asked questions section. The extracting and saving of Yorche's rom was done through OSImageTool in XDAtools into an SD card inserted in a USB card reader/writer (Inland 9 in 1 card Reader/Writer, $10 at Micro Center). The battery was fully charged on my SX56 and the flashing of rom's back and forth was done without the XDA being pluged to power unit. I tested the unlocking with a T-Mobile card, it recognised it, I made some phone calls with no problems, kept Yorch cooked rom for two days to get to know it and then flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in my friends apartment just to show off how easy it is to flash the rom. it worked very well (it took about 5 minutes).
The 2nd SX56 was done all through ActiveSync with the XDA and card reader/writer pluged in and all synchronised (allscreen savers, power savers etc on PC and XDA OFF and battery charged). This XDA still had the original 2002 rom. The unlocking went very smooth. I did a full back up of the rom with ActiveSync. Since the cooked rom is PW10A1 and mine was PW10B1 I needed to get back my original rom to the XDA. The restore didn't work because it is a different partnership. So I flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in a card reader/writer and OSImadeTool through ActiveSync. Everything was fine all the way to hard reset. I waited a minuteor so and did a hard reset and nothing happened, did it couple of times, nothing. It would not restart. I pressed the power botton and it went to bootloader mode. I did soft reset and the unit goes blank, dead. So I inserted the SD card with my 2003 rom into the XDA's memory slot and did the the bootloader mode, it took it, I flashed it. And now I have my 2nd SX56 with 2003 rom and the old radio stack ulocked working like a champ. I tasted with T-Mobile card and it works instantly, no configurations needed. Now I have to do a complete upgrade.
After all I like the new 2003 better but with some of the programs from Yorch Kitchen rom, which I installed and they work fine.
You, ladies and gentlemen, at XDA-Developers are the greatest thing that happened to the mobile devices community. I honor you and thank you. And Peter Poelman, you are the wizard, thank you.
John
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
tommy_kiss79 said:
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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Look here for the answers:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ
and here to cook the rom:
www.yorch.net
check what you want or don't want and click Build ROM now, after it is done click Download. Before you build and download choose which file you want, exe or nb1. What ever you do backup your original rom preferably and safer to an SD card either through OSImageTools in XDATools and ActiveSync or the mode and the SD card pluged into your XDA
bootloader, and read the forum in details...
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
Good luck, John
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The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
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John (and any others out there),
I hope that I'm not asking something here that is covered in some faq on this board and I think I've read them all, but...
I see mention of a lot of versions. 4.00.21, 4.00.01, A30.05, A30.09 etc...
Is there someone that can tell us new guys a little more about these? IE, what is it exactly, 2003, 2002, beta, final, alpha?
I recently bought a Wallaby, and want very much to use the MS Voice Command. Therefore, I have a definate need for a 2003 rom. I have read and reread the forums here and have a good handle on how to flash my rom, but I'm so confused as to what the best (read most reliable) rom to install, as well what radio version would work with the given rom choice. I'm not necessarily asking for a recommendation, but perhaps a nudge in the write direction.
Sorry to dump on you in particular, nothing personal either mind you! It's just that I'd love to read a FAQ for the different versions and what might be expected from them I guess. (I hope like heck I'm making sense here!)
Thanks!
Larry
Hello,
Actually, the only difference between ROM versions is bug fixing with newer versions, but the only significant factor is whether it's PPC 2002 or WM 2003 ROM.
For upgrading, I may recommend TMO 4.01.00 (my personal preference) or A30.09 (with a minor sound issue). If you need to unlock your device you must start with PPC2002 3.17 ROM first then select any WM2003 later.
There is no connection between the ROM and RSU. However, the RSU is the most sensitive part in the XDA. If you have a functioning RSU ... do NOT touch it!!
Last, get a SD card and take a backup ... it's safer and you can use the SD to upgrade as well.
Good luck ...
This is to Larry,
All these replies take you through the right directions. I have two Siemens SX56 devices with AT&T Wireless, both PW10B1, Pocket PC2002 (Ver. 3.0.12039), ROM Ver. A.20.17 ENG, RADIO Ver. A.20.10, 32MB Rom.
1st one I upgraded the day AT&T and Siemens released the Mobile 2003 free upgrade. As much as people complained, cursed and were distroying there SX56 devices ( what I read on AT&T forums) I never had any problems, and as a matter of fact the more I used the device the better it became. I played with it for about two weeks and then I decided to unlock it. So I placed my SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader, downloaded the original 2003 Rom image, soft reset the device. I cooked the Special Edition Rom based on 3.17.03 O2 ROM in Yorch Kitchen, I built the nb1 file, I downloaded, extracted with WinZip, put it on another SD card, put the card in my SX56 device, started the bootloader, flashed it, did a hard reset. It didn't ask me if I wanted to unlock it but the XDAunlock program was there, I taped it, it asked me if I want to unlock, I did. I checked it with a T-Mobile sim card, made a phone call with no problem (I tested with the same card before and after, before asked me for the pin number and after it logged in to T-Mobile network). I used it with the Special Edition Rom for about a week to see which programs I liked and wanted to install on my device after I flash back to saved Mobile 2003 Rom. I flashed it back with the 2003 Rom image. I was on the road, away from power supply, my pc, usb ports etc. Just the unit with its battery charged up, the SD card and the bootloader. It took 5 minutes.
My 2nd SX56 device I did before the 2003 upgrade, the original 2002 still there, with ActiveSync, OSImageTool in XDATools, SD cards, card reader/writer and nb1 file. This time I overlooked the saving of the original 2002 Rom and it went directly into the flashing with the Special Edition Rom cooked in Yorch Kitchen. I unlocked it, tested with T-Mobile sim card and flashed it back with the the Mobile 2003 Rom image saved from my 1st SX56 device. It didn't want to wake up after the hard reset. It kept going to the bootloader mode. So I inserted the SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader , flashed it back again with Mobile 2003 Rom, did a hard reset. It worked. Now I have my 2nd SX56 with new mobile 2003 Rom but old, the original Radio Stack from Pocket PC 2002. It works fine. The working is like the Upgraded 2003 device. Maybe with the older radio Stack is more stable on the signal, and I don't know for sure because I did not tested, only what I read and the people having problems. My preference is a total upgrade, the Rom and the Radio Stack, I noticed that the audio quality is better with the total upgrade, specialy when on the speaker phone during a phone call.
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
saracen said:
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
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Thanks, guys!
I kind of knew that the differences were a matter of bug fixes, what I wasn't sure of is which is 2003 or 2002. I'm going to keep reading here of course. This is a fantastic site to be sure!
So, bottom line is I guess I'm just going to pick a couple of them and flash them and play with them so which works the best.
Many thanks again guys! Larry
Larry,
Yes, exactly. I forgot to say that my new rom is an AT&T- Siemens: ROM Ver. A.30.09 ENG, Radio Stack A.33.02. The previous Rom version had a band switch (900 for Europe or 1900 for Americas) in the Settings and under Phone but now with the new it has an auto configuration which I like better. I can always search the network manually. By accident I found that if you set it to manual and don't have a network specified or any signal strength showing as long as the phone is turned ON, I can still get on Internet.
Good luck, John
One final ?
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
I first came to xda-developers when I was trying to use my Qtek as a modem....thereafter we saw the O2 and Qtek PPC (2002) upgrades that brought in the Wmodem utility.
That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though.
Cheers
Sands
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That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though
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IMHO, the new PCs/laptops with either built-in WiFi or WLAN functions or with equivalent PCMCIA cards, or even with SIM module inside, made it out of the wishlist
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sandyind said:
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
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The German Version 4.00.33 from t-mobile comes with the wmodem application
HTH
Stefan
Stefan,
Is there an English version of Mobile 2003 with wireless modem for PW10B1 XDA?
Thanks, John
Can't receive USA Cingular signal 850mhz- Help Anyone?
I've posted on some other forums but no-one seems to have an answer. Can an unlocked AT&T SX56 be adjusted to work on the Cingular 850mhz system?
Help!!
Doc

what upgrades should i do to an o2 that i have just received

i have just put my sim card in but the OS is
ROM version 3.14.17 ENG
ROM date 10/11/02
Radio verison 4.16
Protocol Version 32554
are there any upgrades or programs i should add or is it fine as it is?
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :wink:
I would suggest leaving the radio stack alone if it works ok. You can backup your current rom to sd card then go cook a rom with lots of extra features and software in the unused rom space at one of the kitchens.
Hi ... congratulations first
Your ROM is PPC2002, so you may consider upgrading to WM2003 (it's not essential tho :wink: ).
In all cases, if your Radio is working fine (the phone part), just do NOT touch it!!
Take enough time to read in this forum before any steps or questions ... Good luck
O2 XDA and WM2003
I just saw posts on this thread, is it possible (safe?) to put WM2003 on an O2 XDA. What ROM upgrade should be used? I ask because I got impression that 2003 upgrade was vendor sensitive and you had to use (if they did one) your vendors upgrade. (i.e. Siemens, etc). Thanks for help, maybe I get to update after all !!
Alan

New purchase - I'm confused

I've just purchased an XDA IIi in Australia
ROM Version 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date 01/27/05
Radio version 1.00.00
Protocol Version 1337.39
ExtROM version 1.11.923 WWE
I've been following a number of posts on upgrading rom (more stability, better performance) and upgrading Radio (better signal strength) but I'm confused.
1. What will I gain from upgrading? Will I see any real benefit?
2. Will the posted upgrades work for my Australian XDAIIi
3. Has anyone in Aus done any upgrades - is it hard/safe?
I'm keen to get the best from my device but don't want to screw it up. Anyone who can offer advice/guidance to a newbie would be doing me a real favour.
Thanks
The first thing is that there are 3 seperate ROM's in the XDA2i;
1. OS/boot ROM - Normally Windows 2003SE. Not much choice here!
2. Extended ROM - Operator specific software and customisations
3. Radio ROM - The bit that deals with the GSM and GPRS (phone)
What you will gain from an upgrade basically depends on what you need. Upgrades provided by your operator will normally add additional or updated software packages or patches to fix problems that have been reported to the operator.
In reality though, the updates provided by the operators will not be ideal. For example, O2 until recently were still providing Radio ROM v1.00.00, whereas 1.04.00 has been available for some time now. They have added Blackberry support in the recent Extended ROM version 1.11.169, but I don't use blackberry. Therefore the O2 ROM updates are of no use to me.
Thus I took the Radio 1.04.00 ROM from this site, and modified the 1.11.162 ROM provided by O2 (also downloadable from this site) to suit my needs and installed the resultant ROM images on my PDA.
In your case, you appear to be using Radio 1.00.00. So you will certainly benefit from upgrading to Radio 1.04.00, because this fixes some serious stability problems which caused the PDA to crash when using certain SD cards.
As for the extended ROM, you could install one of the many examples available on this site, but beware that if you choose a ROM designed for a different operator, many settings will be different, so SMS/MMS/WAP/GPRS etc may not work properly unless you know how to configure them manually.
There are lots of instructions and programs in these forums to help you make a customised extended ROM should you want to. But don't be afraid to ask if you want help - better to ask than have a broken PDA!
hope at least some of this makes sense!

Recommend your favourite ROM

Hello,
My Cingular 8125, kinda got a little whacky, and on top of all I deleted my miniSD contents by misstake... In any case, It is loooong overdo a system reinstal and a ROM Upgrade. I currently have: 2.17.7.2 WWE
I know this q has been asked a million times, and I promised you have have search for answers before posting.
Can someone please recommend what ROM i should consider going with next. Also if you can tell me where the file is located, that would be awesome. I just don't really understand all the letters (AKU, WWE etc) with the file name of the roms and what they stand for.
Lastly, I would like to unlock my phone so that I can use in Europe in the spring... I've lost track of what is the best way to go about unlocking it.
Thanks a bunch.
Whatever one is newest
try this one: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Wizard/Roms/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2.rar
rom version: 2.26.10.2 - latest.
AKU 2.3 : Adaptation Kit Update 2.3 (it is supposed to be the higher, the better). However I think AKU 2.3 is better than AKU 3.2.
WWE: Worldwide English.
For sim unlocking only try Lokiwiz 3.0a: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768
remmender to run EnableRapi.cab on your device, before run LokiwizMsl.bat on your computer.
I use the Mr. Clean Rom. It's the most basic one and only includes stuff you need.
A lot of people on these forums use Molski's rom though.
Mr. Clean is one of the faster ROMs I've tried to date. Its perfect, being just the core WM5 itself with no molestation from the manufacturers
I have no complaints about the moleski ROM. I especially like all the optimization hacks including A2DP. Nice.

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