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Bluetooth automatically turning on when placing phonecalls

Hi,
i have a serious Problem with my german T-Mobile MDA-II:
Everytime i place a phonecall and even if my phone rings and i don't pick up it automatically enables Bluetooth.
The little blue symbol in the bottom-right corner of the today-screen is normally stroken by a red line, but after any gsm-operation the red line is gone and after double-clicking it say Bluetooth enabled.
The only gsm-operation which doesn't enable Bluetooth is sending and receiving sms.
Anyone else having this kind of problem or is my device somehow broken?
(I did have PocketZenphone installed but did uninstall it after a few tests - could that be somehow related?)
any answer would be nice! (standby-time is pretty low if bluetooth is always enabled but not needed)
kind regards,
alpha

mine does that too
and no turning on software is not a sign of hardware failure
smoking and open flames and not being able to hardreset is a sign of hardware failure though
i think mine started to do that after in installed bluetooth tools that free upgrade
from what i can read then it have something to do with support for bluetooth headset where it is required for the phone to turn on bluetooth when a call is recieved in order for the blue tooth headset to work

ok thanks,
maybe i should crawl the registry for a hint.
the notifications-database doesn't contain bluetooth related items!
but the software-idea seems strange because i don't even know that software you installed...

I believe he is speaking of Pocket BlueTooth Tools by Towa. One of the features of this software is that it turns BT off between calls, and then on again when a call is received - presumably to save battery life. Look in Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs and see if it is listed there.

Bluetooth GPRS on PC

Hi,
I'm trying to use my XDA2 to provide Internet Access (GPRS) via BT to my portable PC.
I'm using my PCs built-in Bluetooth-module (running on WIDCOMM 1.4.1 Build 6)
I have no problem synchronizing my XDA2 with Outlook using BT (since this is a connection initiated by the XDA2) but if I "browse" the services on my XDA2 from my PC I only get OBEX Object Push.
I know from previous occations that you should be able to see Serial Ports etc.
My XDA2 is running on the following version:
R: 1.06.01
G: 1337.16
D: 1.60.00WWE
And Pocket Bluetooth Tools
Can anyone tell me what to look for?
Thanx in advance
Frank.

You can try using the XDA II in the wireless modem mode... See your program files for this application. Works for me.

There's your problem... You need to uninstall Pocket Bluetooth Tools; it removes your SSA service (which you need for BT Wireless Modem)

Hmm I also do use the Bluetooth Tools so I doubt you need to remove this very handy app. ?

Hi.
Well, I had to hard-reset my PDA in order to remove Pocket Bluetooth Tools (PBT), so I don't know if it was the hard-reset or PBT that did the works, but now I get the SSA profile and can connect to it without any problems.
Unfortunatly I lost the option to sync my PDA via Bluetooth, since Active Sync cant find any ports. So I'll give PBT another try, otherwise I'll just use the FIR-port to sync.
Thank you for your help. I'll let you know how things work out, when I re-install PBT.
Best regard,
Frank.

What ROM you running? With the 1.72, you have the options of enablign outgoing and incoming COM ports in the settings menu (Start --> Settings --> Bluetooth Settings)
Before installing Bluetooth Tools, I've got: Serial, SSA, Object Push, and one more.
After installing: I've only got Serial and the other one that I cannot remember.
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For me, it was the Bluetooth Tools that was holding me back. I've emailed the author to see whether he can add the SSA port.

Update:
Well, first of all, I was thrilled to find out that I no longer have to start the Wireless Modem-app to use the GPRS-connection on my laptop. Apperantly a modem-emulator runs in the background, so my XDA2 stays fully functional while its forwarding GPRS traffic. (Though I think it's strange that theres no indication what-so-ever that the GPRS is in use - normally you get a different icon at the antenna)
Anyways, I installed the latest version af Pocket Bluetooth Tools (PBT). And the SSA-profile was still there and working. Then I paired my laptop using the ActiveSync profile in PBT - and wupti: Both the GPRS "dial-through"/SSA and ActiveSync is working - at the same time.
Now, all thats left is to pair it with my BT GPS receiver. Can't do it at moment since it's at home - I don't expect any problems with it though. Usually works without problems.
Thank you again for your input.
Frank.

hmm... that's awesome. I'll install Pocket Bluetooth again and see whether it works.
Can you answer these:
1. Which ROM you using (ie. O2 1.60)
2. Which version of Pocket Bluetooth Tools? 1.1.0.0?
Thanks... That's awesome news though. I love how it turns the Bluetooth on and off automatically.

WeatherB:
I'm using ROM 1.60.00WWE (QTek) and the latest version of PBT (1.1.0.0)
It works like a dream

I guess it's possible that Pocket Bluetooth is conflicting with 1.72

I know for a fact, that ver. 1.1.0.0 is conflicting with 1.72 - my friend tried to use this.
He then installed a previous version of PBT, but still can't see the SSA-profile, but the ActiveSync profile now works.
He will try to uninstall PBT and see if the SSA appears.

oh okay... I might have to downgrade to 1.60...
What's the main difference between 1.60 and 1.72?

WeatherB:
I just talked to my friend again. Seems I misunderstood him the first time. The reason he uses an older version of PBT is that with the new version his headset-profile is not supported.
Apparantly the biggest advantage of the 1.70 is the improved battery lifetime. He says he only charges his battery twice as often now. I'm sure there are other improvements - I just can't find 'em in the Upgrade 'n Modifying-forum right now.

I did the downgrade to 1.60 last night and I noticed something weird about PBT... After bonding with a device, you need to leave that last screen (the one that PBT created) unchecked and all will work fine.
Not sure if I tried this workaround with 1.72; but non-the-less, seems to be working. I did however lose the Audio Gateway after installing PBT. But no biggie, don't want to listen use my PDA as an audio gateway for my PC.

WeatherB:
Hmm. I checked the Active Sync-box, otherwise I couldn't connect via Active Sync over BT, since it wasn't in the menu.
But I don't remember if I paired it from the PDA or the PC. But everything works - also the GPS - so I guess it's simply a question on fidling with it.

Exactly... I'll play with it and see how to get the most out of it without messing it up.

MobileNavigon|5 - my fighting, help needed

I've bought your software MobileNavigon|5 ( This is not cracked version !!!!) . I've installed it on my Pocket PC MDA Compact ( ROM 1.11). I'm using it with BT Rikaline 6031-x7.
Here is a list with all issues / problems I've found in your software:
1. To designate and show the route from i.e. Katowice to Budapest, MN5 needs 117 seconds !!!!!
2. It is impossible to navigate using MN5 because it shows you information from the past. For example, I've stopped my car on crossroad and MN5 software showed me, that I drive my car with 37 km/h !!!!!. This is obviously readout from the past - like 10 seconds old or something.
3. When GPS is started, than MN5 works extremaly slowly and every operation - like pressing button or refreshing the screen - takes about 30 seconds !!!!!!
4. When Pocket PC switches off, you software looses BT/GPS connection. It is required to re-start software again to get it communicate with GPS back.
5. When MN5 starts my bt gps device ( RIKALINE 6031-X7 connected via BT), my Pocket PC cannot perform any other operation. I cannot make or pick up the phone call, cannot start pocket outlook, IE or any other software.
Any idea ?
Regards,
Darek

Is there anybody who can help me ?
I tried also with Socket BT GPS, result is the same.
I found Navigon5 forum, but I don't speak german at all
http://www.pocketnavigation.de/board/bid144-sid.htm
Desperate

Go to www.navigon.com, check international
go to service desk
pick the telephone number of your choice and you will get english speaking people who can help you out

A wired gps instead of bluetooth tends to fix these kind of problems, bluetooth is a great idea but I now always use wired gps for navigation because of the inherent problems with bluetooth.

but this BT GPS works perfectly with TT,Destinator and other navigation software except this f... navigon5.
I tested it with all GPS software ( VisualGPS, GPSTweak, WinFast Navigator) and everything is OK.
I found file spgps.ini file with settings
[Default GPS]
GPS=GGA_VTG
GPS1=GGA_VTG
GPS2=RMC_GGA
[GGA_VTG]
Type=NMEA
Name=GPS with GGA and VTG messages
Device=SerialPort
Input1=GPGGA,utctime,latitude,ns,longitude,ew,quality,satellites,hdop,altitude,,,,,
Input2=GPVTG,course,,,,,,speed,
[RMC_GGA]
Type=NMEA
Name=GPS with RMC and GGA messages
Device=SerialPort
Input1=GPRMC,utctime,,latitude,ns,longitude,ew,speed,course,,,,,
Input2=GPGGA,,,,,,quality,satellites,hdop,altitude,,,,,
speedMultiplier=1.851998
speedOffset=0.0
Preferable=1
[Operation]
OperationTimeOut=1
Autolog=0
Suspended=0
Speed=2.000000
LogDir=
AttemptsNum=3
[Matcher]
IgnoreOneWay=1
[Serial Port]
PortNum=5
Timeout=5
BaudRate=4800
[Parser]
AutoDetectTimeout=30
AutoDetectEnabled=1
AutoDetectInfinite=1
Is there anybody who knows what does it mean? Maybe by changing those lines it possible to start this **** working...
I sent them a lot of emails and still no answer... Their support works like their software
Darek

Com 6 Just Not Not Seen At All - Help ??

Guys - UK MDA Vario... cant get ANY GPS app to see my BT GPS. I have the Outbound port set as Com 6 but no apps can see it ( the port that is ) ... Any suggestions ?
TIA
PS tried Com 7 as well. ( and I've been working on this for 2 days now )
Terran
BTW Get a '?' next to the Bluetooth item the Qstarz BT-Q880 GPS... but it defo works on my PC.

Found this... http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ - Going to give it a go...
Please download the latest version from the download area and install it. Just execute the installer. Afterwards you will find a new line for the power management on the today screen. Next time when you bond a Bluetooth device there will be an additional dialog after entering the pin and confirming the device name. Therefore you should first remove your device again if you bonded them already.
The "Today" screen
The icon on the left activates or deactivates Bluetooth. The clock symbol switches automatic power off for Bluetooth on or off. When activated (white backround as in the picture) then Bluetooth will be switch off after 60sec of inactivity.
The two battery icons on the right side let you switch between two profiles for auto power off of the PDA and the back light. For example you may switch to the second mode and adjust the settings to "always on" and "never switch back light off". Thereby you can switch the PDA with one simple to "always on" when you are in your car and want to use GPS navigation.
The profiles
Add your Bluetooth device as usual. You will get now a new dialog after the last step:
Please note that currently only the following profiles are available
Headset/Car kit Serial port ActiveSync Modem
Headset/Car kit
With this profile you may use your headset or car kit to make phone calls. Both headsets (headset profile) and car kits (handsfree profile) are supported and you may use up to 9 devices.
Bluetooth is switched on automatically on incoming calls. However it take some seconds until the connection to the headset/car kit is established. If you leave Bluetooth always on there is no delay.
The call is passed always to the device where you take the call. This means if you answer with the PDA button then the built-in speaker is used. If you used the headset button the call will be passed to the corresponding headset.
To pass the call from the PDA to the headset or from one headset to another just press button of the corresponding headset.
To hang up just press the button on the currently active headset or use the PDA button.
Obviously you can only dial via headset if you leave Bluetooth always on. The button on the headset acts like the phone button on the PDA. This means pressing it the first time switch the PDA on (if powered off) and switches to the phone application. Pressing the button again dials the last number.
Serial port
With the serial port profile you can use a device, which emulates a serial port, like a GPS receiver for example. After marking the checkbox you can select the desired port. Just click on OK and now your serial port is ready to use. Just start your application and choose the same port.
ActiveSync
Just mark the checkbox below ActiveSync and click on OK. Now start ActiveSync from the Start menu. There is now a new entry in the menu of ActiveSync to use the Bluetooth connection. Naturally this connection uses data encryption to protect your data.
Note: To use the ActiveSync connection you must identify the virtual port on your PC and configure ActiveSync accordingly.
Modem
I could not try this function because I don't have a Bluetooth modem but it should work without any problems. Just mark the checkbox and click on OK. Now your modem is ready to use.
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Terran

You probably need GPS software that is compatible with Windows Mobile 5. However, most of them are not entirely updated to support WM5 just yet. I hear some people have gotten Navigon to work, and TomTom with a huge workaround. Destinator PN5 doesn't see the COM ports. iGuidance 2.1.3 works beautifully except for the map-loader not working through ActiveSync 4.x.

try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606

aliendad said:
try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606
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Thanks - seen it...
Followed
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Manged to see the com port in Tomtom but would not get it to see the GPS.... I'm still wondering becuse of the ? next to the item under the BT Control pannel...... I'm wondering if for some reason it does not recognise this as a GPS and is refusing to talk to it.
That been said it does have serial profile and connects ok...
Terran

it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.

aliendad said:
it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.
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thats my point... its not just TT that has the issue - tried some really basic progs just to show reception and get the same... ahhhhh
Terran

tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda

aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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But can you have it enabled with Tomtom ( if I follow you ? )
Terran

aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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This comment was usfull - I removed the BT support from Tomtom and the other progs 'VisualGPS' can now see it.... still working on Tom tom though
Terran
EDIT Yaaaa it works...
Upgraded to 5.1 and sussed... so overview for my Vairo install proceedure ( 3 days this has took lol )
Enable the GPS control pannel - but TBH I dont think you acutally need this any way
Added GPS as per prev threds ( ie Add com 6 etc )
Install Tomtom but not the BT support pack
Install the update
Set GPS settings
Job done
Terran

Some setup issues I think

First up I am having some problems using blue tooth. There is no link to send via bluetooth on the send to menu any ideas on how to place a shortcut to bluetooth in the send to list? Its a PITA opening a file in order to beam it. The bluetooth icon came up on the top bar once but hasn't since. The phone continually refuses to accept files from bluetooth as well. The bluetooth led is flashing blue and other bluetooth devices find the BA and it finds other bluetooth devices but doesn't do alot from there. When you go to the partnership settings there is no add services link that I think should be there. OK I went here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Bluetooth_1.0.0.3900_Upgrade and when I performed the currently installed bluetooth version check I have no about tab to check that.
Second and I take it this is normal in WM6 that wireless is a right swine to get started? I have changed the power off settings and it appears to come online for the moment.
In phone mode theres no option for handsfree ie speaker phone is that normal? If it is normal is there any little program to sort that out?
OK important info
rom 5.60.00 wwe
rom date 03/02/05
radio 1.13.00
protocol 1337.42
extrom empty
CE OS 5.2.1620(build 18125.0.4.2)
I put WM6 on via the wizard on here and used the two patch files at the end as well.
I tried to put this on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331636
but got nowhere with it. It wouldn't go further than the 4 lines on reboot and it wouldn't bring up the extra options on that 4 band screen just hangs there. I put the helmi wm6 back on and weirdly enough it hadn't overwritten any of my phone memory or programs.
Would putting radio version 1.15.00 solve my issues or am I just having setup problems here?

Try to send to from resco or Total Commander, you should have bluetooth recipient in menu.
keep the green button pressed for few seconds, will get the sound on speaker.

I take it resco and total commander are bolt on programs?
I think I have figured out the bluetooth. For some bizarre reason I have to switch on IRDA beam and treat bluetoothing as IRDA ie use the send to for IR and it does bluetooth it, so my bluetooth does work which is a relief.
I take it you mean hold down the green call button whilst in a call to put it through to speaker mode?

Yup, Resco Explorer and Total Commander for CE are file explorers.
And yes, keeping the green button pressed for few seconds when you're in a call should bring the sound on speakers.

DANDANA said:
Yup, Resco Explorer and Total Commander for CE are file explorers.
And yes, keeping the green button pressed for few seconds when you're in a call should bring the sound on speakers.
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Thankyou very much for your help. The green button hold down does indeed work. I have a bit of fun trying to get the wireless to start but it gets there eventually if I turn everything on ie bluetooth and beam as well.