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my jasjar is turn off when it get to 40% buttery power , what can it be ? if i charge it it dosent turn off but without power charger it work just until 40% .
thanks in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1081974#post1081974
sometimes this is just due to topping up charges and there is not a "continuous" supply current in the battery at that 40% mark. I had it once but always top up whenever halfway or very low and never had problem, but a way to fix the glitch is to drain the battery and then fully charge it
Li-Ion batteries do not suffer from memory effect. I have read in several tech reports on Li-Ion technology that it is actually better to top up often, like a lead acid battery. If the battery goes into deep discharge conditions, this will potentially cause serious problems. Assuminb the protection circuits in the battery work, this shouldn't be an issue though.The main problem is that the cells oxidise and stop transferring the charge to the device. This starts as soon as they are made and can't be stopped. If the oxidisation between cells is bad enough, the only use you get is from cells one side of this barrier. The battery still reports charge because the other cells still have it but they can't be usedBottom line is that the battery is poor on the Uni and lasts less than a year.Get a new one from another source, Cameron Sinio or whatever they are called are usually good.
pug said:
Li-Ion batteries do not suffer from memory effect. I have read in several tech reports on Li-Ion technology that it is actually better to top up often, like a lead acid battery.
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Get a new one from another source, Cameron Sinio or whatever they are called are usually good.
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Yeah I always put it into charger cradle when driving home -- nice way to keep it topped up.
Recently my battery started to play up and I have ordered one from BatteryUpgrade.com - a Cameron Sino battery for £18.xx has arrived quickly but could not serve the purpose - was not charging and eventually totally discharged.
Also was not indicating charge properly - always 100% (the LED is still Amber, not Green as you would expect at 100%).
I wonder if anyone else has bought Cameron Sino branded batteries and experienced same effects: 1) always 100% indication in your software and 2) lack of ability to charge?
Universal is using Lithium Polymer (light weight), not Lithium ion (heavy weight) batteries.
The main differences between li-ion and li-po batteries are the recharge/discharge rates and the construction of the core. Li-ion batteries are "wet" cells where as Li-Po batteries are "dry" which makes them thinner and more rugged. The same precautions still need to be observed and the life of the batteries is still about the same. They start becoming unusable after 300 charges and only have 40% of charge after 500 cycles. The life of 3 years is from the date of production, being stored at 40% charge and at the appropriate temperature. They are better when constantly topped up to prevent the voltage of the cells from dropping too low as this promotes oxidisation between the boundries of the cell. If they are overcharged, lithium metal is produced which is also bad. Another problem is that if the cell voltage drops too low it can never be recovered meaning one knackered battery. I have looked into this quite a bit as my battery has started shutting off at 60%ish, after 10 months of use which is pretty fair. I only expect batteries to last a year anyway. Good excuse to get a higher capacity battery in my opinion. I have used a Cameron Sino battery before in my Alpine and had those reporting issues for a few weeks and they dissappeared almost overnight. Don't know why but hey, isn't modern technology great?
Interesting. Thanks for you info. No wonder battery is not under gaurantee!
EastExpert said:
Yeah I always put it into charger cradle when driving home -- nice way to keep it topped up.
Recently my battery started to play up and I have ordered one from BatteryUpgrade.com - a Cameron Sino battery for £18.xx has arrived quickly but could not serve the purpose - was not charging and eventually totally discharged.
Also was not indicating charge properly - always 100% (the LED is still Amber, not Green as you would expect at 100%).
I wonder if anyone else has bought Cameron Sino branded batteries and experienced same effects: 1) always 100% indication in your software and 2) lack of ability to charge?
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Yes, I've had 3 Cameron Sino batteries that all reported 100% regardless of charge level. Can't remember if the LED ever went green with them, or not, I'm afraid. Obviously, they all went back for refund.
Cheers,
Steve.
I got a CS battery and it started to expand, cracking the casing and seeming rather dangerous. I emailed the seller and it was replaced in 24 hours. He asked for theold one sent back so the factory could analyse it.
I had to dump the replacement recently because it wasn't giving the Uni enough current to complete a hard reset and was lockingup the device during 3G data and a call.
All in all I think 2 bad ones is enough, I will stick to the one that comes with the Uni and keep a USB cable curled up in my pocket =)
DeskTop Charger & 2x (Yes 2) 1340mAh Batteries for £15 (AU $ 31) including delivery to the UK - Gotta be a bargain?
Just ordered from Ebay (See Link) - will add comments on quality, build etc when they arrive.....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290264206436
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That´s a REAL bargain, I am buying the "kit" right now. But warantee doesn´t cover exploding non-original batteris Hmmm.... Hope it´s good quality.
charge current ?
But since I do not see any wall mount adapter, max. charge current will be limited to 500mA.
When charging phone and battery together, time to charge would be around 7 hours. Only 3.5 ~ 4 hours for phone
dolezelk said:
But since I do not see any wall mount adapter, max. charge current will be limited to 500mA.
When charging phone and battery together, time to charge would be around 7 hours. Only 3.5 ~ 4 hours for phone
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???? You can plug your original "wall" mains charger into this one???
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Mr.Sir said:
.......warantee doesn´t cover exploding non-original batteris Hmmm.... Hope it´s good quality.
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I'm with you there - we have to be carefull when using non-oem spares and accessories - not just the batteries but also cradles and wall (mains) chargers too!
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has this arrived yet?
I've never had trouble with other batteries in my old xda exec
@Blob8me: Did you get the order? If so do you like it?
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@Blob8me: Did you get the order? If so do you like it?
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Guys - The order arrived on Tuesday - I've been away on business and just got back but got the package just before I left. It was sent recorded delivery and well packaged....
The desk-top charger and 2 x batteries (they look like OEM batteries but dont expect they are) I unwrapped one and took it and the charger with me.
Ive been using the replacement battery for the last 2 days and to be honest it seems to be better than my original?
The desktop charger is very good - good build quality and pretty light in terms of weight - the only slight drawback is that the charging status LED's are very bright but thats not a huge issue?
I will post some photo's when I get a chance....
Overall: VERY IMPRESSED & DEFINATELY A BARGAIN!!!!
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Thanks!
Just ordered one as well based on your feedback
Blob8me,
Thank you for your comments.
I ordered the discussed items today. £15 for x2 batteries and a charger is very good value.
As I see it these devices can be thirsty. For that reason I used x3 batteries and an extra charger for my Tytn ii and Tytn i. It is easy to carry an extra charged battery in a leather sleeve the size of a matchbox. A small inconvenience when one considers that often the alternative would be to carry a laptop around - bit of a nuisance when one cycles in London or flying somewhere and want to listen to music or watch media en route.
Rgs,
J
Ordered mine today - the exchange rate must have changed in my favour, cost me £12.62 for the 2 batteries and desktop charger.
Hello.
Hoes HTC Touch Pro support hot-swappable batteries?
(Battery change without soft reset)
Bye
Yes, during the battery switch it runs on either solar or nuclear power, you need to select which one you prefer in Settings/System/Power Options......
Seriously, no when you remove the battery the unit goes off completely. So no hot-swapping
Got mine a couple of days ago. Charger seems to be pretty well built. The usb cable that came with it was also of thicker quality, not those el-cheapo type. The LED sure are bright! A little too bright for me! hehe! The 2 batteries looked pretty good in built quality. I was kind of impressed at first glance.
Here comes my 'bad' news... after charging for 10 hours or so, the LED stayed constant..supposedly indicating that the battery is fully charged. But when i popped the battery into my Touch Pro, it just refused to turn on! Both batteries show the same problem. And I was extra careful to align the terminals to the charging point. What a let-down!
anyone else face this? I know Blob8me is satisfied with his...what abt others? care to comment?
Tried soft reset?
I mean:
Turn off.
Switch battery to a new one.
Press soft reset.
I also got them this week. Both batteries worked fine. The only thing I noticed is that they are a little thicker making it a little more difficult to put the back cover back on.
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Got mine a couple of days ago. Charger seems to be pretty well built. The usb cable that came with it was also of thicker quality, not those el-cheapo type. The LED sure are bright! A little too bright for me! hehe! The 2 batteries looked pretty good in built quality. I was kind of impressed at first glance.
Here comes my 'bad' news... after charging for 10 hours or so, the LED stayed constant..supposedly indicating that the battery is fully charged. But when i popped the battery into my Touch Pro, it just refused to turn on! Both batteries show the same problem. And I was extra careful to align the terminals to the charging point. What a let-down!
anyone else face this? I know Blob8me is satisfied with his...what abt others? care to comment?
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Hi soundguy1202
Sorry to hear you've had a problem with the batteries - and with both of them which seems odd - if it was just one of the batteries then maybe I wouldnt have been suprised?
Did you try the soft reset as mentioned above (not that it should have needed that? Let us know how you get on......
I'm still using mine and still happy - I did notice, as peebee01 mentions that the replacement batteries we a micron or 2 thicker but actually seem to be getting better performance from them than the original OEM battery?
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well...i tried to soft reset... even to the extent of replacing the back cover first.. but to no avail...for both batteries. guess i got a bad charger? even when i put the battery in the phone and plug in the wall charger unit, it doesn't turn on. of course, this may be due to the battery no being charged in the first place! anyway, i will try get a meter and measure the battery output.
my batteries where also a tad thick, like u said...one was manageable but one needed a little pressure to put in place!
Also funny to see they print "HTC innovation" on them, but its horizontal vs. vertical on the orignal one. Plus on the back there is a serial number, but both batteries I have have the same serial..... That's real Chinese copying ;-)
Mine arrived today. Damn those led's are bright! I might be noobing it up, but am i the only one that's having trouble getting the batteries to stay in the dock?
I am having an issue where my phone is showing a charge only up 99%, and then it stays there until I take it off the dock. I've tried a few different Rome, and 2 batteries. Any thoughts?
I bought a Brand New Nexus One. Charged it for 24 hours & still only had 20% charge. Also the Orange indicator did not change to Green.
I think you might have a similar Hardware/Software fault & might need to return your phone for repair.
I know it not as drastically bad as my phone, but still.
Get what you paid for.
Thanks
JAW$
I had given my Touch HD for replacing the digitizer. After it came back from the customer care center, I faced a problem with the battery. As soon as i plugged it in for charging, I noticed the orange light- that usually shows the charging mode. But after 6-7 seconds, the light goes off and the battery never gets charged. Even after I charged the phone for 4-5 hours, when i try to switch it on.. it says low battery and switches off. I visited the customercare again with the same problem. The person there said the battery was to be blamed and he ordered a new battery for the same. That poor battery never arrived, even after a good 20 days waiting. That is when i ordered it from UK. Now, I recieved the battery a week back and the same problem persists. I am sick of this cell now. I would be grateful to anyone who has a solution for this.
Regards,
Rakshith
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Problem of the circuit device to be charged
If I were you, I'd buy a universal lithium charger. You can get one on eBay for as low as 2.80 USD. I would recommend an online company called bestofferbuy.com because it has several for under 2.60. My personal favorite one there is one shaped a penguin that can recharge either via USB or AC. It is available at:
http://www.bestofferbuy.com/universal-cell-phone-lithium-battery-charger-with-usb-power-port-ac-110v240v-p-26225.html
The charging USB dongle on my phone broke and when I asked a friend about his recommendation, he asked if I had searched for a universal lithium charger. I went to froogle.com, performed the search and found bestofferbuy.com. Basically, if you look at any universal lithium charger, it will have two posts that you "line up" with terminals on your battery. When the lithium charger senses a correct alignment, a light will come on. When charging, those lights will flash until the battery is fully charged. Then the lights will come on steady. I have bought two chargers from there as I like to keep one in my overnight bag.
If you do a search on eBay, I'd recommend you use "lithium charger" as it will show the lowest priced models. Then, look the sellers that offer a USB and a/c models. You should not pay over 2.80 USD (shipping included).
I've been doing tons of research on this whole battery draining issue on the 6p. I cant seem to find a simple solution around this tired issue that plenty of people seem to be having. My battery has about 3 Hrs of screen on time before it dies. I've tried shutting down all kinds of connection settings, clearing the cache and even factory reseting my phone. I just recently tired the android O beta and that didn't help either. All I want is to figure out if my battery needs to be replaced or is it the software that's killing my battery. I've even called google and they cant help, Huawei wants to charge me $165 for a replacement battery and thats way too much. Has anybody found a fix that doesn't involve rooting the phone?
ev713 said:
I've been doing tons of research on this whole battery draining issue on the 6p. I cant seem to find a simple solution around this tired issue that plenty of people seem to be having. My battery has about 3 Hrs of screen on time before it dies. I've tried shutting down all kinds of connection settings, clearing the cache and even factory reseting my phone. I just recently tired the android O beta and that didn't help either. All I want is to figure out if my battery needs to be replaced or is it the software that's killing my battery. I've even called google and they cant help, Huawei wants to charge me $165 for a replacement battery and thats way too much. Has anybody found a fix that doesn't involve rooting the phone?
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It is NOT the software. There is no fix for a badly degraded battery. Replace your battery. Buy the battery online and then shop around for a local shop to install it if you're not able to.
ev713 said:
I've been doing tons of research on this whole battery draining issue on the 6p. I cant seem to find a simple solution around this tired issue that plenty of people seem to be having. My battery has about 3 Hrs of screen on time before it dies. I've tried shutting down all kinds of connection settings, clearing the cache and even factory reseting my phone. I just recently tired the android O beta and that didn't help either. All I want is to figure out if my battery needs to be replaced or is it the software that's killing my battery. I've even called google and they cant help, Huawei wants to charge me $165 for a replacement battery and thats way too much. Has anybody found a fix that doesn't involve rooting the phone?
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Are you dying at 60% or lower? Does it happen when you open the camera? Does the phone shut off when a random loud sound plays or something of sorts? I ask cause that is what is happening to me. Random reboots? I don't think that is "battery" related per-say.
Have you tried installing a battery stats app that can help narrow down the culprit?
More details would probably help others help you.
Does it fully charge?
How long does the battery last, not just screen on time?
3 hours SOT doesn't sound terrible. I've heard worse.
How old is the phone?
Had the same problem...I bought a new original battery from ebay and replaced the old battery by myself. To be honest, there was not much improvement...now with a medium usage (whatsapp, wifi or 4g always on, some clash of clans/clash royale gaming) I get 3hrs30min SOT at the late evening, never more. And also I'm on francokernel so I should easily get 4hrs but nothing.
Anyway, unless you are an expert, I don't recommend you to replace the battery for yourself because, sadly, the N6P is a phone impossible to open up without damaging it especially the rear glass...surprisingly, on my case it didn't break but it's all scratched and I should buy a new one.
Furthermore, now my battery doesn't charge anymore up to 100%...it's stuck at 93% and only if i unplug and plug again the phone it gets to 98%...to get 100% i have to plug and unplg it several times and wait something like 30min to get from 98% to 100%. I don't know what caused this problem but it looks like there's no solution...software and hardware battery calibration didn't do anything. Maybe the battery I bought was faulty...
In conclusion, buy the new battery but ask someone expert to replace it if you aren't.
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Had the same problem...I bought a new original battery from ebay and replaced the old battery by myself. To be honest, there was not much improvement...now with a medium usage (whatsapp, wifi or 4g always on, some clash of clans/clash royale gaming) I get 3hrs30min SOT at the late evening, never more. And also I'm on francokernel so I should easily get 4hrs but nothing.
Anyway, unless you are an expert, I don't recommend you to replace the battery for yourself because, sadly, the N6P is a phone impossible to open up without damaging it especially the rear glass...surprisingly, on my case it didn't break but it's all scratched and I should buy a new one.
Furthermore, now my battery doesn't charge anymore up to 100%...it's stuck at 93% and only if i unplug and plug again the phone it gets to 98%...to get 100% i have to plug and unplg it several times and wait something like 30min to get from 98% to 100%. I don't know what caused this problem but it looks like there's no solution...software and hardware battery calibration didn't do anything. Maybe the battery I bought was faulty...
In conclusion, buy the new battery but ask someone expert to replace it if you aren't.
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The first replacement battery I tried acted like that and it was quite frustrating. It wouldn't charge to 100% and had about the capacity of my degraded OEM battery. I ended up ordering this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-82V-3...wei-Google-Nexus-6P-H1511-H1512-/351786248092 It charges to 100% and has like new capacity, but no internal battery temperature sensor. I installed it in January and have been happy with it. Others have opted for the Cameron Sino brand replacement. more expensive but with working battery temperature sensor.
You can order a replacement back cover with glass and bottom strip for around $25 if you're worrried about scratches. That's under $40 for new battery, aluminum back, camera glass, and bottom strip.
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The first replacement battery I tried acted like that and it was quite frustrating. It wouldn't charge to 100% and had about the capacity of my degraded OEM battery. I ended up ordering this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-82V-3...wei-Google-Nexus-6P-H1511-H1512-/351786248092 It charges to 100% and has like new capacity, but no internal battery temperature sensor. I installed it in January and have been happy with it. Others have opted for the Cameron Sino brand replacement. more expensive but with working battery temperature sensor.
You can order a replacement back cover with glass and bottom strip for around $25 if you're worrried about scratches. That's under $40 for new battery, aluminum back, camera glass, and bottom strip.
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I think I'll go for the Cameron Sino battery...a little more expensive, yes, but more reliable...I've also heard of people complaining that after 2 months their batteries (ordered from ebay, false OEM) died...
So, is that the answer to our fast draining battery issues? To get a replacement battery? The Cameron Sino?
baldybill said:
So, is that the answer to our fast draining battery issues? To get a replacement battery? The Cameron Sino?
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Yes.
Unless it came from the play store where you can RMA it and let Google have the problem.
But if Google replaces it, it may have the same issues, right?
It could I guess if the battery in the replacement device is a dud. Just got my replacement and the battery is showing 106% capacity compared to 30% capacity on the old one. Back to how it was when I first got it so happy with that service seeing as it was nearly 2 years old.
If the new one does not have a full capacity, then just reject it before you swap over to it and get Google to send out another.
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It could I guess if the battery in the replacement device is a dud. Just got my replacement and the battery is showing 106% capacity compared to 30% capacity on the old one. Back to how it was when I first got it so happy with that service seeing as it was nearly 2 years old.
If the new one does not have a full capacity, then just reject it before you swap over to it and get Google to send out another.
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How are you checking the capacity?
Accubattery is one way. Do a couple of decent charges with the screen off and then look at the health report.
Same, I tried several things, clearing the Cache, factory reset and nothing works. My Nexus 6P randomly shuts down between 80% to 90% and doesn't turn on umless I connect it to the charger.