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What is the Jog Button program?
It seems to have installed itself on one of my hardware buttons and ocassionally scrolls through several functions when that button is pressed.
I know how to change the button assignment but am wondering if there is something about Jog Button that we will want to use?
JogButton was just a freeware app we liked which allows multiple functions to be controlled by a single button. Feel free to re-assign the apps using JogButton's 'Tools' menu, or to use the button for something else entirely.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
Do you know where I can find a help file for instructions for Jog Button?
I couldn't find it within the device and in playing with the program it just doesn't come to me.
JogButton Instructions
Fairly simple once you get the hang of it...
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button to activate JogButton. This causes the programs in its list to scroll/cycle
2. Release the contacts button when the icon of a program that you want to activate appears
Setup
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button
2. Click on the tools menu at bottom of screen
3. Select setup from the tools menu
4. The dialog that shows lists the programs and order of cycle.
5. Add/Delete/Edit as desired
6. The Snd check box is a toggle for sound/no-sound (a beep as each program is shown)
7. Duration is the number of milliseconds that an icon is shown
Hopefully that answers you questions
I'm the author...
Tek
Thanks for the reply. You are a genius!
This seems like a very handy app.
Joe_PDA
other buttons
What about using this very simple app on the calender button.
Have your "serious" stuff on one side,
then "toys" on the other..
I presume you have future plans, so give us a clue please
Perhaps even ask for ideas...
Martin
JogButton - Future Plans...
I started coding an alt-tab like feature into JogButton, but was not sure if that would be useful for anyone other than me. As you may know alt-tab in the Windows world scrolls you through the open list of of apps in a Last-in-first-out/Most Recently Used fashion. This would be useful for switching between two apps, the downside would be that you would have to remember the order. I was thinking of putting a toggle on either the menu or in the setup dialog to select this mode.
As for using two buttons, it is possible,but the way PocketPC handles the programs assigned to a button they have to have different names. I would of course have to make a few minor adjustments to allow for this, but it is possible.
I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
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I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
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Bug: by timing a quick press just right, I can get it in a mode where it keeps cycling through the programs even though I've released the button already.
I think I was unable to map it to both the hardware buttons using a different list of programs to cycle through for each button. Since a single short press still does the same thing, there's really no reason not to map it to the second button also. (?? Quick hack: map second button to patched Jogbutton2.exe, using different set of registry keys. Better: multiple small stubs which start the real exe telling it which stub was executed. ??)
Maybe map a special action to pressing both buttons at the same time?
Also, something like 'double-press' and 'triple-press' found in some other programs to quickly go to the second and third item (or completely different items) without looking at the phone would be handy. I never really use the rocker-switch, but it could be handy for app starting: just keep the hardware button pressed and hit one of the four directions or the center, giving you 5 new things (per hardware button) to start.
JogButton...
Good suggestions. I can enhance it to use all available buttons. I prefer to use one hand, but others might like to have more options available.
hmm, must be a n00b suggestion, but perhaps it would be possible to use the volume control button? i dont use it for anything anyway.
Only two options... that I know of...
On the XDA/MDA PPCPE there are only two mappable buttons, unlike other PPC that have four or five. It's either the contacts button or the calendar button. Now once an app is mapped to either button and the app is launched, it can control any of the buttons. As a side note, the volume button would be great if it were dual functioning: a press-and-release brings up the volume dialog; a press-and-hold would bring up the record function.
Is any useful way to remap the Green and Red Phone button and the volume slider button? I mean for launch application or any function. Thanx.
There are some such programs for volume slider.
The most simple I prefer is attached here.
Just put it to the \Windows\Startup folder. It just "unbind" slider but not remaps it to another buttons. This will allow to use slider as F6/F7 buttons in programs able to hook them e.g. Haali Reader...
Thanx
It seems to be ok but where did you attach it? On my MDA is no offered file to download at this time. ThankU.
I've got it
Ok. Now is the sheet with uploaded file appeared. I've got it and extracted it. After i run the *.exe file it does nothing. Why?
because it should do nothing
This utility just frees slider buttons from default binding to volume control.
If you have an application that understands F6/F7 hardware key pressings (slider up/slider down) you may bind these key in the program.
As for me - I use them to scroll text up and down in Haali Reader text reader program.
But (as I said above) there are another programs to use slider up/down control. Unfortunately I don't remeber where I saw these utilities - but they really exists
And, as far as I'm back to the Andes from (Blue Angel) - I think I will write another one specially for Himalaya/Andes.
Ok, let's wait some days. If there are any results - I'll post the report here
P.S.: BlueAngel is the best HW keys equipped device i've ever saw But...
Thanx once again
Thank you 4 ur help. Now i understand that. And what about the Phone buttons? Any ideas? Ex.I want to use red button as Ok/Close simulation. Any ideas how to do that? Thanks.
Nobody unmaps phone buttons. It is possible but unresonable because of HTC is a phone device also. But I'll implement this feature too.
OK
I will wait for it.
The very first (and buggy) try of HW remapping utility is done. The application setup is available HERE
After installing .CAB file go to Start -> Settings -> Buttons and see the changes...
DO NOT INSTALL THIS APPLICATION ON BLUE ANGEL!!!
It will hide four lower hardware buttons until hard reset!
1. This app was tested on Andes with WM2003se, but should work on Himalaya/Magican with WM2003 and above
2. You will lose the possibility to use hardware key mapping in other applications forl remapped buttons. I need to re-grab buttons from time to time because the system tries to thieve them from me
3. Currently I don't now how to emulate green and reed buttons functionality after unbinding them from the system.
4. I can count any number of button pressings (3,4,5...), but -
5. WinCE reserve codes for only 15 hardware buttons (40C1..40CF)
There are some ideas for future improvement. But it would be nice to know your thoughts.
Just to "stimulate": I can create settings screen during setup to allow flexible configuration where you will
- choose which buttons to handle and how many key pressings to detect;
- choose option to unbind and/or re-map volume and phone buttons
- ???
And let me take a time-brake for 2 days before next programming session
The utility is ready. It allows you to:
remap each standard hardware button to 2 or 3 "virtual", simulated via double or triple clicks;
use volume slider to simulate Up/Down direction keys or create additional "virtual" hardware buttons;
remap Red and Green phone buttons to 1,2 or 3 hardware buttons each.
In a result you may create up to 15 hardware buttons (system limit)
Just install program and check Start -> Settings -> Buttons.
Here is Oficial AEBPlus home page, full desktop-based setup (~27K) and Direct link to CAB file (~30K)
Well done!
Excellent software! Thank you once again for your work. Works very very well!
man this is great really like it
works perfect :lol:
Seems to work great. Haven't had it running long enough to see if the camera button will get stolen back (big problem for me on XDA IIi), but being able to map the volume is great.
In the next version any chance of adding an <enter> option like Vito Button Mapper which I think just sends a <carriage return> to select whatever is highlighted.
Is "<Ok/Close>" option in button settings applet not the same?
NO, <OK/Close> generally tends to close the current window rather than selecting whatever is highlighted.
Also whatever application keeps on stealing back the camera button is still doing it. I don't know if it is part of the UK O2 customisations or the core PocketPC Rom, but eventually whatever function is mapped to the Camera button gets re-mapped back to the camera. This also happened to me with the standard button mapper and Vito button manager. It's a little annoying since the camera button is the most usefully positioned, and it is also easily knocked, starting the camera at awkward times.
Ok, I'll add this option for camera button (a bit later, in a case other suggestions arrives).
As for the re-hooking button by camera application: AEBPlus initializes all of the buttons from time to time. Currently this take place every 30 seconds. So if you will wait a bit - all buttons should be re-grabbed again
This does not seem to help because whatever application that is resetting the camera does it in the same place as you are storing the button mappings. When I go into the Buttons Setup it will now say that the Camera button is mapped to the Camera.
Yes,I see... It looks like Camera application is a pushy application . The solution is to remap "normal" Camera HW button to 3 press instead of one, but I don't like this.
Anyway - utility was released.
New features: added option to emulate Enter key with Camera button.
Hi AE, your utility is great. It is very useful but SIMPLE and SMALL.
I used it instead of other button mapper software.
There're some issues need tobe improved:
1) Mapping "Green" and "Red" button:
Enable mapping when they're iddle only (phone function does not work).
E.g: I'd like using Red button to close running app. But in phone function, Red button is still used to hang-up the phone as original its function. Anytime I have a phone call, I can use Red button to cancel a outgoing/incoming call.
You can refer the program of mamaich in this web site.
2) Single press is too low:
I press a key one time and wait 5 secs or more until it works. It's too slow. Can you improve? Double-press is OK.
3) Press n hold:
Can you add "single press n hold" for all hardware-keys? I think "single press n hold (after 3-3.5 secs)" is more convenient than "double press" or "tribble press". Do you think so?
Hi AE, very usefull application! Is there any way that we can have an options screen, where we can change the key options we get after installing the app? That would be easier to edit our preferences if we want to make changes to our initial choices. Furthermore I added a Mortbutton to one of your simulated hard keys. Each Mortbutton can show a list of 12 apps for a buttonpress. That means That I can now bind more than 60 apps to the buttons in total! Very good for one-handed use of my Magician, thanks!
Hi, I am using Atom, I would like to know is there any tweak which can modify the button about the END PHONE (i.e. messaging) to another program I want, example the Calendar, or Pocket Informant. Thanks
AEButton
Has anyone been sucessful with remapping the start button (right button under the phone green button) :?:
no. it's impossible. Remaping programs doesn't see the start button
AEButton Plus 2.4.1
taiseer999
Well about remapping the Start Menu button--AEB+ allows you to add buttons so you can change this button this way, but I've not been able to get it fully functional. When you remap it, it displays the start menu for a fraction of a second then does the appropriately assigned action. It works, but w/this weird glitch.
I hope this helps!
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taiseer999
Well about remapping the Start Menu button--AEB+ allows you to add buttons so you can change this button this way, but I've not been able to get it fully functional. When you remap it, it displays the start menu for a fraction of a second then does the appropriately assigned action. It works, but w/this weird glitch.
I hope this helps!
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pelicantacos
Thats exactly what I have been seeing and no success in preveting the start funtion from not appearing :?
Is there a way to easily adjust the volume using the wheel? Or do we have to get the stylus out :?
Cheers
Just tried SPB pocket plus but it doesnt have a volume indicator, just a control which doesnt show what the volume is set to!
any clues?
What is it that you want to do?
If you move the jogwheel during a call, you can change the voulme of the speaker...
OK, But do you know how to adjust the volume when not in a call without tapping the screen? is there a way to do this please?
probably clumsier than tapping the screen, but if you have both Spb Pocket Plus and MS VoiceCommand, you can issue commands for Volume Up, Volume Down, Volume Loop, and Mute.
You can also tapp on the Comm Manager button and toggle the between (preset volume), (vibrate), and (silent).
Is there a good screen tap recorder which works with the tytn?
I tried Vitobuttonmapper which does this but it messed up all my other button assignments! I just want to be able to assign the voicedialler press and hold function to bring up the volume bubble!
Anyone found a prog which will turn a screen tap into an .exe which will be assignable to a button?
Vijay?
Anyone??????
with aebutton plus 2.4.3 beta (its now in 2.4.4 beta), if you remap the "ok" buttons after adding it, you can select it in such a way (under "\options\restore volume slider\" select "if today is active").
Now in the today screen, when you press the ok button, the volume slider will be activated. You can then use he left right up/down keys to select the volume of choice.
However, upon capturing the ok button, i have to map the ok button to close active apps when pressed twice. Pressing it once, regardless of the program in the foreground yields nothing.
To minimize, i have the use the red phone button.
I use the following mortscript:
Code:
MouseClick 160,0
Sleep 100
MouseClick 160,200
In portrait QVGA.
There's a neater way with VJKeyPress as well, but I can't remember the settings right now
If necessary it'll be easy to turn this into a seperate app.
V
vijay555 said:
If necessary it'll be easy to turn this into a seperate app.
V
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That would be v. nice! would it be possible to make it landscape aware too?
(i'm to much of a thicky for mortscript..... )
The lack of hardware keys (without the keyboard attatched) on the x7501 was my biggest reservation while deciding to buy it. Now I'm having trouble with AEBPlus and HButton (would be perfect if I could use AEBPlus & assgn Hbuttons to the Long Press mode, but it doesn't work). I can't seem to get the flexibilty in button assignments like I had wiith my wizard, I think because a lot of the long keypresses are OS assigned and not UI available.
I don't want to start reg hacking in my random ways if someone has more experience, or better software ideas, and would be willing to share it.
(I keep my unit in the case without the buttons locked when it's in standby, so if I hit a hdwe key, I only have to do that once to get a specific Mortbutton menu up. 2 gestures to anything is my goal. Hbutton often can allow only 1, but I only get 2 keys out of it CommMgr/Record & Camera, my "IE" button longpress seems to be commandeered by VueFlo (cute but pretty useless). If I use that the AEBPlus doesn't seem to work on the other keys.)
UPDATE: I reinstalled AEBPlus, this time with the PC/Activesync installer instead of the cab. The cab installation I did didn't seem to change things. In any case, AEBPlus is working now.
Thanks!
Janis said:
The lack of hardware keys (without the keyboard attatched) on the x7501 was my biggest reservation while deciding to buy it. Now I'm having trouble with AEBPlus and HButton (would be perfect if I could use AEBPlus & assgn Hbuttons to the Long Press mode, but it doesn't work). I can't seem to get the flexibilty in button assignments like I had wiith my wizard, I think because a lot of the long keypresses are OS assigned and not UI available.
I don't want to start reg hacking in my random ways if someone has more experience, or better software ideas, and would be willing to share it.
(I keep my unit in the case without the buttons locked when it's in standby, so if I hit a hdwe key, I only have to do that once to get a specific Mortbutton menu up. 2 gestures to anything is my goal. Hbutton often can allow only 1, but I only get 2 keys out of it CommMgr/Record & Camera, my "IE" button longpress seems to be commandeered by VueFlo (cute but pretty useless). If I use that the AEBPlus doesn't seem to work on the other keys.)
Thanks!
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AEButton will generally do long presses, double presses, and triple presses... if they are available. As you mention, this seems to be a hardware problem. Example, the "e" (internet) button uses the long press to activate/deactivate the motion sensor within your browser.
As a former Wizard owner, I know where you are coming from. Remapping the "e", "record", and "Win" buttons has given me about 9 quick launches, one of which is WkTask which gives another 12 on a pop-up panel--not to mention showing all open windows on the top bar. Also, the big screen makes iLauncher usable. And I still use good-ole SmallMenu. So I'm doing OK with opening things quickly. But I do miss having all those button launches from the Wizard.
Doing better
HButton and AEBPlus don't play well together at all.
I'm on AEBPlus, post flash, and don't get any long-presses, but I have 3 possiblilities on each of the buttons. Along with MortButtons and actually using the CommMgr instead of hdwe keys, I seem to be getting along well enough.
I had the basic edit commands (select all, copy, cut, paste) assigned to a key in AEBPlus, and turn on/off BT and WiFi. That's what I miss. I use MortButtons for it now, so it's a two-step process, but it works.
The problem with "long keypress'es" for many buttons like Ok/Win/VueFlo etc) is caused by keyboard driver implementation and may not be resolved on application level. The button driver returns both "key was pressed" and "keys was released" events simultaneously, right after button was phisically released. So application could not define time period button was in pressed state to decide if it was long or short keypress...
As for BPlus configuration for my Athena (I have no keyboard at al and use bplus only):
* Button 2 (40C2): (IE button)
1: Call default handler
2: "Messaging"
3: "Notes"
* Button 3 (40C3): (wireless manager)
1: Rotate Screen
2: Show Actions Menu
3: Switch Flashlight Off/On
* OK key (4075):
1: Press Green Button
2: "Contacts"
3: "Calendar"
* Windows key (405B):
1: "Notes"
2: "File Explorer"
3: Show Actions Menu
* Enter/Action (000D):
1: Call default handler
Long: Task Manager
* Volume Up (0075):
Change volume or...
1: Volume Up
2: Backlight Up
Long: Backlight Level 10
* Volume Down (0076):
Change volume or...
1: Volume Down
2: Backlight Down
Long: Backlight Level 1
Action menu items:
Rotate Screen
Switch BlueTooth off/on
Switch WiFi Off/On
Trigger Online
Disable "Power off if not used"...
Device Lock
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AE, love the program but have one problem. The "ok/close" function is never "close", just always "ok".
The only way that I know of to map the OK button to really be "ok/close" is to configure an hbutton key to be "ok/close" and then use AEbplus to make that hbutton.lnk to the OK key. It's a bit convoluted and requires both programs being loaded and running (hbutton uses more memory than aebplus), but it's the only way to make it work.
Any way to fix the "ok/close" function in AEbplus? Even when there is an "X" in the upper right corner, AEbplus only minimizes the app, never closes.
Has anyone tried remapping or assigning the keyboard buttons to launch applications?
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Is it possible to get the Half-Press-Function of the Camera-Button assigned for normal working(windows-mode, not camera-mode)??
greetz